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Rosati
05-01-2008, 02:00 PM
Need to get this:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v673/Rosati/IMG00093.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v673/Rosati/IMG00095.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v673/Rosati/IMG00094.jpg

Into this:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v673/Rosati/03-22-07_1603.jpg

At first, I thought this was going to be a bit easier than it really is....

First , I need to Modify my ATP mani , cut out the ext w/g area , weld an elbow and flange for an ext. w/g

To do all that , is going to take time and money , but how much money do you guys think?

After that is handled, what do I do w/ the exhaust situation? Cant run dumps on this turbo bc of the need for backpressure

Like an idiot, I thought this turbo had a v band outlet and would mate right up to my exhuast

The only option i have on that front is to buy the guys custom downpipe
:
http://content.foto.mail.ru/mail/kid_for_ever/555/i-583.jpg

But how would that mate into my milltek? The ends are just cut off..... , Id need another extender/custom piece aka more BS


So , I figure its going to cost

$200 Tial W/G
$100 Atp modification including elbow and flange
$$$$ Downpipe
$$$$ Fabricate downpipe into milltek....

Or maybe SPA manifold? $400????

honestly for 30-40whp I dont think its worth it and i might just Sell it , Unless you think I shouldnt?


Tia Fellas,

BTW, Jim, im still on schedule, This is the only day where my attention drifted [up]

biketsai
05-01-2008, 02:04 PM
The downpipe flange looks similar to one on a volkswagen, see if you can get a shop to custom make one for you

Ian@Absolute
05-01-2008, 02:09 PM
is that a 60-1?

as far as the downpipe issue, just get what looks to be a 2.5" 4 bolt > 3" vband adapter. i have one sitting in my floor @ my house. [:)]

Rosati
05-01-2008, 02:48 PM
Uh ohhhhh

Damn ian , you just keep proving to be the man

Shit.


LOL can you help me out, ya need it?


60-1??

Poopie
05-01-2008, 03:12 PM
yeah just get a vband adapter, it should set you up pretty close. if its a t25 hot side everything should bolt up like the 28rs

UN-PIMP-Z-A4
05-01-2008, 03:49 PM
I would buy the new manifold and sell the atp one.
it would rule out alot of variable as far as leaks and reliability. (atleast for a piece of mind)
Have an exhaust shop make a dowpipe, but limping the car there would be the hard part.

94jedi
05-01-2008, 04:17 PM
Rob!!! you're effin nuts!!! What happened to "bah we don't need all that BS" when I suggested building that silver 2000 A4!?!??!?! hahaha

I say buy the new mani. it's going to be so much less trouble. after a mani is cut and welded, it's never the same. my mani cracked right on a weld so I had it re-welded and it looked like it was ready to crack again. Any good exhaust shop should be able to mate all those pieces together. Maybe they can even make you a nice DP as well. it won't be cheap but I think it's better to do it right.

don't even tell me you play indoor soccer...Nice f30's! I play soccer no less than 4 times a week, 3 nights are my indoor leagues. man, all I can do as of late is threadjack.

pac1085
05-01-2008, 04:24 PM
dude, you stole Jesus' turbo!

http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/9663/n5426641553209133571yr9.jpg

mike-2ptzero
05-01-2008, 04:37 PM
The downpipe flange looks similar to one on a volkswagen, see if you can get a shop to custom make one for you

That is a standard 4 bolt flange.

http://www.full-race.com/catalog/images/4%20bolt%20dp%20flange.jpg


Uh ohhhhh

Damn ian , you just keep proving to be the man

Shit.


LOL can you help me out, ya need it?


60-1??

T3/60-1

http://www.snortperformance.com/T3_60_1%20turbo.JPG


This turbo is capable of over 550 HP. 100% Real Garrett ball bearing T3/60-1 Turbo assembly. This unit has a T3 exhaust housing with a 2.50" 4-Bolt downpipe outlet & a Stage III turbine wheel. For use with external wastegates. You pick the A/R that best suits your needs. (pick from above) It has a 60-1 compressor wheel with a large T04S style Housing (4.00" inlet & 2.50" outlet) A fast spooling turbo with very strong power capabilities. Great drag racing turbo for smaller displacement engines.




Is the one you have oil/coolant cooled or just oil?

Rosati
05-01-2008, 05:00 PM
Poopie, Can you post pics of your setup Plz, I never even saw it.......

Thanks mike, I thought thats what he meant, No its a GT3071R...

Oil and Water cooled (only way to go IMO)

Phil, Im about to make that my desktop background.....

Pat,

Well I dont know, My tapp tune supports the turbo, so i jumped on it when i saw it for sale.

It really is a gorgeous piece...... So Badass.......

You play?! Thanks man, I play spring league premier league soccer. its outdoor and turf.... It is my first year playing soccer in general , and im very athletic and learn quick and watch a ton of italian soccer, Just last week i scored my first goal while drilbbling the keeper , Inzaghi Style [cool]

Yeah man the beginning was rough, i was so out of shape and pretty much lost, but i learned quick and practiced w/ the mexicans in the park to step it up

Out of every sport ive ever played, Soccer is by far the hardest/most satisfying when you score [up] ( except wrestling!!!!) They call me Pato BTW

Rosati
05-01-2008, 05:24 PM
Gonna need this right? http://intakehoses.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/90CB40.jpg

94jedi
05-01-2008, 06:24 PM
Gonna need this right? http://intakehoses.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/90CB40.jpg

yes, something like that cobra hose. depends where the mani locates the turbo but you can count on it being a tiiiight fit. With my t3t4, I should have used one but I'm cheap/ghetto so I decided to mod the headlight to squeeze the regular hose in.

94jedi
05-01-2008, 06:32 PM
Pat,

Well I dont know, My tapp tune supports the turbo, so i jumped on it when i saw it for sale.

It really is a gorgeous piece...... So Badass.......

You play?! Thanks man, I play spring league premier league soccer. its outdoor and turf.... It is my first year playing soccer in general , and im very athletic and learn quick and watch a ton of italian soccer, Just last week i scored my first goal while drilbbling the keeper , Inzaghi Style [cool]

Yeah man the beginning was rough, i was so out of shape and pretty much lost, but i learned quick and practiced w/ the mexicans in the park to step it up

Out of every sport ive ever played, Soccer is by far the hardest/most satisfying when you score [up] ( except wrestling!!!!) They call me Pato BTW

Wow, premier???? back home in the Wash DC area, premier was basically semi-pro (A step below A-league or PDL/USL. Next step is MLS) Some players got paid, some (me) didn't. I benched for the most part but got free gear [>_<]. Anywho, It's my favorite sport, been playing since I was about 6. Pipo is a cold-blooded scorer...so lethal. If they are calling you "Pato", that says something!!! Pato is a PHENOM! So I guess you're an AC Milan guy?!?!? I'm for ROMA, but only because of Totti!

Ok, I won't muck up your thread anymore...pm me or something...

Rosati
05-01-2008, 07:01 PM
Ah, who cares they arent responding right now anyway

Really? wow , well I know that many guys played throughout college in the league, No one gets paid, so your league is def a bit better, But we do get sponsors, etc and nice jerseys

Yeah man, Im a HUGE rossoneri fan, plan a trip to the san siro next season...

Pippo is my idol man, This guy is class, talent, clutch and skill and he has his records to back it up [up]

Who woulda thought you were into italian soccer?!!! Totti is just Totti man, Italian Beckham, Idol, you name it....... Prettyboy too

Milan and Roma choked this year, but its no big deal let the english enjoy a victory because thats all they can get in terms of the world stage.... (Milan 7 time Champs, Cough COugh!)

yeah they can call me pato for my skills :P but it is most likely bc I wear his red shoes LOL. W/ some skills to match!!!!!! I learned soccer basics and moves from playing PES Winning eleven!

You really need AIM

And what is this Mazda business? You better have HAD to finance/lease or else im gonna be pissed , I see them all the time @ the auction.

BTW dont doubt mazda, They are innovators in the automotive industry just like Audi are.

Cant wait till i get into my very own FD RX7....

bassed
05-01-2008, 07:32 PM
Rob just do the Vband for now that turbos going to be easier to work with than the gt28 with the Atp mani, if it has issues down the line switch to the SpA or just do I'd now, but only if going T3 flange. My .02

mike-2ptzero
05-01-2008, 08:28 PM
Poopie, Can you post pics of your setup Plz, I never even saw it.......

Thanks mike, I thought thats what he meant, No its a GT3071R...

Oil and Water cooled (only way to go IMO)



Are are you sure its a GT3071r? Because the 3071r doesn't come with a .70 a/r compressor housing, it comes with a .50 a/r. This is most likely why Ian asked if it was a 60-1 since it has the .70 a/r housing and the blades look so small in that 4" inlet. The T3/60-1 I posted above looks exactly like it and also comes as a Ball Bearing setup as water/oil cooled.


The GT3082 uses the .70 a/r housing since that turbo has a 40 compressor wheel. The GT25/40 also uses it but if it has a T3 flange that turbo is ruled out.

Poopie
05-01-2008, 08:38 PM
i'm on the same page with ya mike. I've been trying to figure out what turbo that is for a while now

t25 gt3071r didn't come with a 4bolt discharge and i think all of them came with internal wastegates. and then i saw it as a .70 compressor ar. I think you are right

Rosati
05-01-2008, 08:39 PM
Would a Garrett model number on the vane help?

HJM115241

700177-3023

Garrett / Allied Signal


I cracked open the compressor to reclock it before, Want me to post a pic of the wheel or do they all share the same wheels?


Thats what my impression was...... That id be able to run it Internally and i was like [confused]

pac1085
05-01-2008, 09:07 PM
700177-5023 is indeed a GT3071R chra (corrected part # over IM)

dunno wtf's up with the housings.

Rosati
05-01-2008, 09:18 PM
Yeah, thanks phil

Ok to my untrained eye, I saw the PAGPARTS Mani today that it mated up to and before today, he called it an ATP replica

Poopie tells me it looks like a T3 flange and not a T25 So ill have to modify my mani now along w/ some other bullshit for the w/g

Not a big deal right? [headbang]

UN-PIMP-Z-A4
05-01-2008, 09:38 PM
your better than me i wouldnt embark on this adventure.
but i forget you have another car so its all good.

mike-2ptzero
05-01-2008, 10:30 PM
Would a Garrett model number on the vane help?

HJM115241

700177-3023

Garrett / Allied Signal


I cracked open the compressor to reclock it before, Want me to post a pic of the wheel or do they all share the same wheels?


Thats what my impression was...... That id be able to run it Internally and i was like [confused]


Any chance did you get the a/r of the Exhaust housing?

Are you sure it was -3023? Because I cant find that listing anywhere for the GT30's. They all seem to be -00__ numbers.

Was there another number other then the 700177?

The part # for the GT3076r turbo is 700382-12 while like poopie said the 700177 is the CHRA.

Rosati
05-02-2008, 06:24 AM
700177-5023

PAC had said that he ran it and it is a true 3071R


I think for sure its a 3071R w/ a T3 flange instead of T25....

Theres an assortment of numbers on the housing ,

M1 85

A7705

Don Supreme
05-02-2008, 06:26 AM
t3 - should do you NICELY...

k0mpresd
05-02-2008, 06:42 AM
seriously though, who orders a 3071 w/ an s cover?

pac1085
05-02-2008, 06:44 AM
I spent like an hour searching last night and I couldn't find anyone mentioning that, let alone a place to buy one..kinda weird?

94jedi
05-02-2008, 06:48 AM
I spent like an hour searching last night and I couldn't find anyone mentioning that, let alone a place to buy one..kinda weird?

so are you guys thinking someone just made a Frankenstein turbo on their own?

k0mpresd
05-02-2008, 06:49 AM
well you can pretty much get any cover you want when you get a big enough turbo. you just have to ask for it and cough up a few extra dollars.

i was looking in to a 60 trim w/ an s cover. clay was going to give me a smoking deal on it.

k0mpresd
05-02-2008, 06:51 AM
so are you guys thinking someone just made a Frankenstein turbo on their own?
no. someone just requested a 3071 w/ an s cover. its just a weird combo, thats all. why not just get a 3076 w/ a ported cover? that way you still have 4" inlet but 2" outlet. instead of the 2.5" that s cover has. and of course the 5mm larger exducer. [:)]

Rosati
05-02-2008, 07:14 AM
Yeah he said he paid $1300 for it last year , when the 3071 runs about $1100

Only thing im concerned about it it working well w/ my tune, But im thinking it will

T3 is a good thing? IDK when i am stuck w/ this ATP mani, I might just try to convert it while i pull it

Ian what do you say about that adapter, if not ill just look on some sites

k0mpresd
05-02-2008, 07:18 AM
id say it looks like you need one of these. ~> http://www.atpturbo.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=ATP-FLS-028&Category_Code=ATP-FLS1

Rosati
05-02-2008, 07:25 AM
Thanks

$60 for that little shit? [headbang]

k0mpresd
05-02-2008, 07:28 AM
yea. i paid $60 plus like 2 day air or maybe overnight air. back in the day when i bought the 2.5" > vband. check yours though. i cant tell its if 2.5" or 3" from the pic. it may be the t31 flange.

mike-2ptzero
05-02-2008, 08:06 AM
700177-5023

PAC had said that he ran it and it is a true 3071R


I think for sure its a 3071R w/ a T3 flange instead of T25....

Theres an assortment of numbers on the housing ,

M1 85

A7705

No he said that it has a 3071r CHRA which is the 700177 number. Problem is that your turbo is a hybrid and you cant find specs on hybrid turbos. I cant even find the part #'s for the 60-1. Even the GT25/40 can be ordered with a T3 exhaust housing, you can find that on ATP. Only way you are going to know what you have is to measure the compressor wheel.

Rosati
05-02-2008, 08:55 AM
No problem, ill do it when i get back from the library

Militant-Grunt
05-02-2008, 09:26 AM
dude, you stole Jesus' turbo!

http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/9663/n5426641553209133571yr9.jpg

Nomination for best pic of the year. Had me in tears from laughter thank you.


That is one big turbo Rosati, I hope it works out for you, would love to see it run.

Rosati
05-02-2008, 01:20 PM
Thanks man

Alright, Here are some updated pics
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v673/Rosati/IMG00096.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v673/Rosati/IMG00097.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v673/Rosati/IMG00098.jpg

Seems to be 2.75"


Yeah the blades arent perfect.... Wasnt run w/ an intake : Smart :

Everything else seems to be in great shape though Zero shaft play as well.

k0mpresd
05-02-2008, 06:03 PM
2.75" is only 69.85mm.

you need to measure w/ a caliper.

edit: it does look like a gt backing plate. now that i think about what my 30r plate looks like.

Rosati
05-03-2008, 04:58 PM
So mike you make me take these damn pictures and dont respond?

lol.

Poopie
05-03-2008, 05:38 PM
my best guess is its a 3071r with a different housing.

k0mpresd
05-03-2008, 06:14 PM
So mike you make me take these damn pictures and dont respond?

lol.
you need to measure exducer size w/ either a caliper or something that does mm. and measure it exactly.

Poopie
05-03-2008, 06:15 PM
lol......at least he isn't telling you how many buttons long it is =)

kinda of an inside joke

Rosati
05-03-2008, 06:31 PM
In america, We use inches [:p]


Ok ok ill find something, but is it really a big deal ? It should go fine w/ the tapp tune im assuming

k0mpresd
05-04-2008, 07:41 AM
In america, We use inches [:p]
tell that to garrett.


COMPRESSOR
Wh Dia Trim A/R
Ind Exd
53.1mm 71.0mm 56 -

http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbobygarrett/catelog/Turbochargers/GT30/GT3071R.htm

mike-2ptzero
05-04-2008, 07:57 AM
In america, We use inches [:p]


Ok ok ill find something, but is it really a big deal ? It should go fine w/ the tapp tune im assuming

No it doesn't really matter, it either works or it doesn't.

killa
05-06-2008, 08:10 PM
Any chance did you get the a/r of the Exhaust housing?

Are you sure it was -3023? Because I cant find that listing anywhere for the GT30's. They all seem to be -00__ numbers.

Was there another number other then the 700177?

The part # for the GT3076r turbo is 700382-12 while like poopie said the 700177 is the CHRA.

a -12 is just one of the GT30's, there's at least 4 more, the biggest being a -14.

And those turbos can be had with any housing, notice how small the wheel is in respect to the housing, a 60-1 will fill it in more as it has a bigger inducer.

mike-2ptzero
05-06-2008, 08:26 PM
a -12 is just one of the GT30's, there's at least 4 more, the biggest being a -14.

And those turbos can be had with any housing, notice how small the wheel is in respect to the housing, a 60-1 will fill it in more as it has a bigger inducer.

Yeah I know that, that one was just the they list on www.turbobygarrett.com, plenty more sites that show others for the GT3076r.

If you notice I was pointing out the fact that his #'s weren't matching up with what the GT30r part #'s listed by Garret, only thing he did have that matched was just the CHRA part #.

Yes the wheel looks very small, the GT25/40 looks the same way and also uses the .70 a/r housing.

Rosati
05-06-2008, 09:53 PM
Yeah but this guy dyno'd at 390bhp (fwd).....

Saw the sheet and everything

What do you think i should do? i still didnt attempt install so ignore my sig

Paul can we swap turbine housings? :)

have any t25s lying around for this thing?

Don Supreme
05-07-2008, 05:34 AM
390 FWHP....

--Stick with the t3..

killa
05-07-2008, 05:55 PM
Yeah but this guy dyno'd at 390bhp (fwd).....

Saw the sheet and everything

What do you think i should do? i still didnt attempt install so ignore my sig

Paul can we swap turbine housings? :)

have any t25s lying around for this thing?

Yes and No, but can get it. [:D]

Another dead giveway that it's a GT is the backplate.
hth
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