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Kyle H
04-12-2008, 10:04 AM
DAY 1 Progress

So yesterday at about 5:00pm me and two friends started tearing apart my car to get the transmission out. We're using the DIY on audiworld, and I'm expecting it to take all weekend.

Progress as of 1:30am last night:
airbox/coolant tank out
turbo to cat bolts off
front axles unbolted from tranny
pass. side heatshield (over the axle) out
top 3 engine to tranny bolts out
starter bolts out

I snapped one T40 torx bit trying to get the driveshaft off, so we had to make a 1am walmart run to get a torx set. That was pretty fun. [:)]

Here's where we are right now:
http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r261/snowmanhitman/24bc74ce.jpg
I stripped one of the driveshaft bolts [:(]. One of the guys has a dremel at his house with a cutting wheel, so after he wakes up (that lazy ass), we're going to run and grab it. I'm hoping we can just cut a slot in the screw and use a screwdriver to turn it out. there's really not enough leverage to hammer a t45 torx bit into it.

Today the plan is to get the transmission dropped, and get that clutch all bolted up. Maybe we can get it back in the car tonight but I'm betting that will happen tomorrow.

Overboostin
04-12-2008, 10:19 AM
good luck man. let us know how it works out.

mike-2ptzero
04-12-2008, 11:25 AM
DAY 1 Progress

So yesterday at about 5:00pm me and two friends started tearing apart my car to get the transmission out. We're using the DIY on audiworld, and I'm expecting it to take all weekend.

Progress as of 1:30am last night:
airbox/coolant tank out
turbo to cat bolts off
front axles unbolted from tranny
pass. side heatshield (over the axle) out
top 3 engine to tranny bolts out
starter bolts out

I snapped one T40 torx bit trying to get the driveshaft off, so we had to make a 1am walmart run to get a torx set. That was pretty fun. [:)]

Here's where we are right now:
http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r261/snowmanhitman/24bc74ce.jpg
I stripped one of the driveshaft bolts [:(]. One of the guys has a dremel at his house with a cutting wheel, so after he wakes up (that lazy ass), we're going to run and grab it. I'm hoping we can just cut a slot in the screw and use a screwdriver to turn it out. there's really not enough leverage to hammer a t45 torx bit into it.

Today the plan is to get the transmission dropped, and get that clutch all bolted up. Maybe we can get it back in the car tonight but I'm betting that will happen tomorrow.

You can use just a vise-grip to take that last bolt out. I had to do the same when a few of the front axle bolts stripped.

njm23
04-12-2008, 11:38 AM
I'm doin the same thing you are right now.. Only I am fighting rain and am by myself. AWESOME. goodluck with it.

AudiA4_20T
04-12-2008, 11:54 AM
hammer a bigger torx bolt into the driveshaft, should have used a swivel socket a plain extension wont work with the angle it gives you (which Im assuming you used)

DefiantS4
04-12-2008, 11:57 AM
You can use just a vise-grip to take that last bolt out. I had to do the same when a few of the front axle bolts stripped.

Bingo, vice-grips are awesome for stuff like this. I had to use them on the lower 2 engine-tranny bolts as well because I couldn't fit a wrench around the subframe.

sixfiveoh
04-12-2008, 11:59 AM
Why are you using torx bits for those driveshaft bolts? Kragen (or autozone, whatever you guys have out there) sell those triple square bits for like 10 bucks...

audispeed
04-12-2008, 12:14 PM
Why are you using torx bits for those driveshaft bolts? Kragen (or autozone, whatever you guys have out there) sell those triple square bits for like 10 bucks...

what he said. even if it is stripped with the torx bit the triple square might still work.

Kyle H
04-12-2008, 12:26 PM
You can use just a vise-grip to take that last bolt out. I had to do the same when a few of the front axle bolts stripped.
Awesome, we'll try that next.


I'm doin the same thing you are right now.. Only I am fighting rain and am by myself. AWESOME. goodluck with it.
thanks man, goodluck!!

mike-2ptzero
04-12-2008, 12:45 PM
Why are you using torx bits for those driveshaft bolts? Kragen (or autozone, whatever you guys have out there) sell those triple square bits for like 10 bucks...

The bolts on my rear driveshaft are allen head.

Kyle H
04-12-2008, 01:38 PM
So I tried to throw some vice grips on that bolt, they just slid off the bolt when we tried to turn it. Then we used a grinder to make one of the sides flat (more grip!?), but it just rounded the edge of that side.

We can't heat the bolt, I only have propane and I think it would damage the stuff around the bolt. The grinder is too big to cut a slot in the head of the screw for a screwdriver, so right now we're pretty stuck.

I was thinking about using easy-outs, but I've heard horror stories of using those.

Here's where we are now:
http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r261/snowmanhitman/351c45f6.jpg

Kyle H
04-12-2008, 01:54 PM
someone just had the idea on another forum of welding a piece of stock to the bolt, I think we're gonna try it. My friend with the welder will be here late tonight, I'll keep you guys updated!

t1demont1
04-12-2008, 02:02 PM
the bolts strip out on a lot of people because beyond popluar belief, its not a torx bit its a tripple square hex bit.

Militant-Grunt
04-12-2008, 02:36 PM
the bolts strip out on a lot of people because beyond popluar belief, its not a torx bit its a tripple square hex bit.

It is a serrated 8mm hence why you stripped it.

http://pics.tdiclub.com/members/tongsli/Interior/window%20regulator/P7140899.jpg


I suggest you replace all those bolts before you have a problem down the road.

Kyle H
04-12-2008, 02:39 PM
It is a serrated 8mm hence why you stripped it.

http://pics.tdiclub.com/members/tongsli/Interior/window%20regulator/P7140899.jpg


I suggest you replace all those bolts before you have a problem down the road.

Well shit, I better email the guy who made the diy and have him fix that.

mike-2ptzero
04-12-2008, 02:41 PM
I wonder how well the GraBit tool would work.

Kyle H
04-12-2008, 11:41 PM
Well we ended up being able to cut a slot in the stuck bolt and get it off with a screwdriver, woo.


Right now everything is disconnected from the tranny, and we're ready to pull it out. We can't get the rear drive shaft disconnected from the rear of the transmission! Any advice on getting that out of there?

Kyle H
04-13-2008, 02:46 AM
THE TRANSMISSION IS OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!







....but we can't get the car high enough to roll it out from under the car....

cleanandsimple
04-13-2008, 06:57 AM
I never even took my tranny out from under the car. just move it out of the way so you can change the clutch. I even left it on the jack, made it really easy to go back in. Good luck

Militant-Grunt
04-13-2008, 07:27 AM
You're going to have fun putting it back in if you're doing this on jack stands.

mike-2ptzero
04-13-2008, 07:54 AM
You're going to have fun putting it back in if you're doing this on jack stands.

I have done it many times on jack stands and ramps. Only thing that is hard is trying to get the trans out from under the car. To do so you have to put the trans on the ground and jack up the car, hard part is getting the trans back on the jack to put it back in.

Poopie
04-13-2008, 08:01 AM
Well shit, I better email the guy who made the diy and have him fix that.

that m8 triple square is for the axles. you could have hammered a 6mm allen head on for the driveshaft

Mawhitey
04-13-2008, 08:47 AM
Yup I learnt the hard way too, stupid really as my bit set has the spline bits too.

Glad she is out tho, i have to drop my tranny soon too as the six speed i put in is noisey as hell, god bless Ebay !!!

Kyle H
04-13-2008, 01:02 PM
Haha yeah ebay is a savior!


Does anybody have the torque specs for putting the clutch back in? I can't find my bentley right now. [:(]

Kyle H
04-13-2008, 01:32 PM
So we're running into some trouble trying to take off the pressure plate, we can't keep the engine from spinning!! any ideas?


Here's something interesting I just found:
http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r261/snowmanhitman/d47fe922.jpg
http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r261/snowmanhitman/7ce12721.jpg

Militant-Grunt
04-13-2008, 02:18 PM
If you have a big socket bolt for the crank up front, you can have someone hold it from spinning it. Then again your engine isn't out haha.

Im sure there's another way to do it.

Kyle H
04-13-2008, 02:24 PM
Yeah we were able to get the 19mm 12pt socket on the front of the crank.


Does anybody know what the deal is with that piece of metal hanging out cutting up my transmission casing? It sticks out about 3/8" from the flywheel/pressure plate.

Poopie
04-13-2008, 02:42 PM
hhmm pull the pressure plate off and take a better pic.

Kyle H
04-13-2008, 04:12 PM
Well I figured out what it was-- I snapped a bunch of crap!

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r261/snowmanhitman/79c8b1c4.jpg
http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r261/snowmanhitman/29d178ea.jpg

Think I had a lot of life left in this clutch? [:p]
http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r261/snowmanhitman/17ae8264.jpg
http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r261/snowmanhitman/59844fb5.jpg

Annnd here's the old vs. new stuff:
http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r261/snowmanhitman/031d0b7b.jpg

Poopie
04-13-2008, 06:09 PM
OH SNAP. good thing you are replacing the clutch. now that purchase is justified. =)

Kyle H
04-13-2008, 06:12 PM
Haha, definitely.


I have a friend bringing over a flywheel for me tomorrow, hopefully I can get it all put back in by tomorrow night-- before 4am!

Nebone
04-13-2008, 07:32 PM
Good progress man.

I helped do this last week and I heard a tip. The engine should only be turned clockwise so when you hold the crank bolt to sustain the motor from turning, make sure it does not turn counter-clockwise.

Nice choice in clutch too.

Kyle H
04-13-2008, 08:06 PM
What happens if you turn it the other way? I think I only turned it clockwise, but I could have turned it counter clockwise without thinking.

Thanks. [up]

Kyle H
04-14-2008, 04:43 PM
So my friend just brought over a flywheel that he bought on ebay a couple of months ago, we were ready to put it in until we realized it's a little different....

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r261/snowmanhitman/0f70385f.jpg


What the heck is this off of? I'm guessing it's off of a v6, but what do you guys think? The guy he bought it from said it's from a 97 1.8t.

Poopie
04-14-2008, 04:45 PM
maybe its off a mk4 1.8t? Definitely not right though.

Kyle H
04-14-2008, 04:48 PM
It was out of a 1997 A4 [according to the guy on ebay].

The part that's confusing me is that the new one is 8 bolt while my original is 6 bolt.

Poopie
04-14-2008, 05:03 PM
no clue. whats the part number on it? it should be stamped somewhere on there

Kyle H
04-14-2008, 05:18 PM
078 105 266A

Does that look like a part number? That's the only thing I could find.


Nevermind, it's a 12v flywheel off of a 97 A4.
http://www.ecstuning.com/stage/images/dis/10272/600/10272.jpg

If anybody needs a 12v flywheel w/ clutch and pressure plate, my friends selling it for $79.99 + shipping!

k0mpresd
04-14-2008, 05:24 PM
thats a v6 flywheel.

either 2.8 or 2.7t. not sure which one.

but most anything starting w/ 078 is going to be a v6 part. or i should say, was originally a v6 part. you may find something w/ an 078 # that happened to make it on to a different motor. but def not a flywheel.