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biketsai
02-11-2008, 12:06 AM
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/volumebikec0/DSC_3702.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/volumebikec0/DSC_3703.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/volumebikec0/DSC_3704.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/volumebikec0/DSC_3706.jpg
it makes me wonder how this thing makes sooo much powa! [wrench]

gotaudi
02-11-2008, 12:25 AM
Yeah the K03 is stupid small. I did a presentation on turbocharges for school and I brought the good ole' K03 in as a demonstration, sadly to say people were straining to see the different components from the first row... It was pretty funny.

audiFUEGO
02-11-2008, 09:11 AM
how much power you expecting?

mike-2ptzero
02-11-2008, 09:44 AM
Takes me back to 2001 for me. That setup makes about 225whp on pump gas and 250whp on the race tune. This comes out to about 290chp and 320chp for a quattro car.

dualaudi
02-11-2008, 09:50 AM
man... i wish people would use the forum images vs. photobucket... i hate that we block that site... i wanna see!!!

A4Rob
02-11-2008, 10:11 AM
Mike my T28 made 240WHP in 92octane.

mike-2ptzero
02-11-2008, 10:32 AM
Mike my T28 made 240WHP in 92octane.

Was that the 1.5 bar file that PES had? The 225 I put up was based on what I made on 91 octane running 20psi since thats all the dbw cars could run. GIAC and PES rated the kit at 270-280chp on pump gas.

I guess it all depends on the year car, the tuning and the amount of boost the person is running since not all cars and the tunes from PES were the same.

A4Rob
02-11-2008, 10:35 AM
yes it is a 1.4 bar program, but it does NOT require race fuel. I think that is where a lot of people who don't know a whole lot about the PES kits get confused. Race file is based on boost, not gas.

Oh my number was not spraying water/meth or C02 on the FMIC.

speedydragon
02-11-2008, 11:16 AM
we want vids! :DD

mike-2ptzero
02-11-2008, 11:36 AM
yes it is a 1.4 bar program, but it does NOT require race fuel. I think that is where a lot of people who don't know a whole lot about the PES kits get confused. Race file is based on boost, not gas.

Oh my number was not spraying water/meth or C02 on the FMIC.



Dont you mean "race file" is based on octane/gas not boost level. You said it the other way around. The race files run the same boost but way more adv timing to burn the higher octane being used.

PES/GIAC had a 1.3/1.5 bar pump chips for the ndbw PES T28 kit. The dbw chips ran much lower boost and the 91 files ran much lower adv timing then the 93 files".

A4Rob
02-11-2008, 11:39 AM
No like I said, "1.4 bar program, but it does NOT require race fuel. I think that is where a lot of people who don't know a whole lot about the PES kits get confused. Race file is based on boost, not gas."

PES makes a 1 bar and 1.4-5 Bar programs. The 1.5 is a "race" program that requires use of a FMIC and exhaust. Still uses pump gas. Yes, it does have more advanced timing and requires "premium" fuel, not race fuel.

Poopie
02-11-2008, 11:57 AM
nice! that k03 is so tiny. The t28 should be a nice upgrade

A4ringedONE8T
02-11-2008, 12:08 PM
And a T28 is still tiny!! lol

mike-2ptzero
02-11-2008, 12:39 PM
No like I said, "1.4 bar program, but it does NOT require race fuel. I think that is where a lot of people who don't know a whole lot about the PES kits get confused. Race file is based on boost, not gas."

PES makes a 1 bar and 1.4-5 Bar programs. The 1.5 is a "race" program that requires use of a FMIC and exhaust. Still uses pump gas. Yes, it does have more advanced timing and requires "premium" fuel, not race fuel.

GIAC files that are labeled as "race" are for race fuel only, the 1.5 is just a pump gas file and the T28 kit should really only be used with a good flowing exhaust and FMIC to take advantage of the air it flows.

1.5 was never considered a "race" file in anyway. For the ndbw they had 1.3-1.5 pump files and then they had "race gas" only files.

A4Rob
02-11-2008, 12:59 PM
So whats your misunderstanding then? That pretty much was just a repeat of what I jsut said [confused][rolleyes]

mike-2ptzero
02-11-2008, 01:06 PM
So whats your misunderstanding then? That pretty much was just a repeat of what I jsut said [confused][rolleyes]

Well you kept calling the 1.5 bar file a "race" program that still runs on pump gas, that just doesn't work seeing that "race" means race fuel(100+octane) and as we both can see a file cant be "race" and "pump" at the same time.[:p]

Maybe this is why people get confused when people keep calling the 1.5 bar PES T28 ndbw file "race" when in fact it is not a race file at all and just using the word "race" with it is exactly why people think it is a race file.

A4Rob
02-11-2008, 01:45 PM
The PES/GIAC file for their "RACE" program does NOT require race gas. Many companies do have a "race" program that does require 100octane.
GIAC however does have a race program for 100 octane. But it is not the same "race" program PES partnered up with them on the T28. In this case you are wrong mike. Wrong since back in 2001 when you had this before everyone.

Euro
02-14-2008, 11:55 AM
AHAHA

The Ko3 is such a baby turbo. nice pics for comparison

dualaudi
02-14-2008, 01:36 PM
Just wanted to add to your image post (btw this is gtrs not full t28rs)
http://www.audizine.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSC00305.jpg

back side

http://www.audizine.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSC00316.jpg

picasa (http://picasaweb.google.com/shawntrash/Dualaudi/photo#5150564328643482914)

dualaudi
02-14-2008, 03:39 PM
What would be really cool is k03 - gt40r lined up in a row... anyone got a link to that?

maxspeed
02-14-2008, 03:51 PM
What would be really cool is k03 - gt40r lined up in a row... anyone got a link to that?

where would the cut off for kkk series turbos end and GT turbos begin?

dualaudi
02-14-2008, 03:54 PM
where would the cut off for kkk series turbos end and GT turbos begin?

not sure i understand... like ko3, ko4, gt2x, gtrs, gt2871r, gt28rs, 2871r, gt30, gt35r...

maxspeed
02-14-2008, 08:06 PM
that would cover 20 or 30 turbos...

94jedi
02-14-2008, 08:17 PM
here's another: 50 trim t3/t4 .48 a/r
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v214/94jedi/t3t4vsk03.jpg

badboi24u
02-14-2008, 09:18 PM
So how is this t28 going to be with the TIP tranny?

biketsai
02-14-2008, 09:38 PM
I have heard that it will hold up just fine.

badboi24u
02-14-2008, 09:50 PM
i might have to look into this then.

speedydragon
02-14-2008, 10:02 PM
lol the k03 looks soo cute! :P haha

20A4Audi1.8t01
02-15-2008, 07:34 AM
congrats on finally getting it installed!