Bought a Used Carbonio

[AudiWxGuy]

Bought a used Carbonia CAI! Looks like I should have it by early next week. Looking forward to the install of that + my sline shifter.

[Tiesto]

Get ready for all that 0% increase in performance, it's going to be pretty intense!

[ChriS4]

k.

[AudiWxGuy]

Not looking for performance. I want the sound + the increased airflow to help my exhuast sound a little better. I've done the research.

+Since it's used its only $200 vs. the almost $400 new.

[viperdsa]

Sounds like the car is piece by piece going together.

[AudiWxGuy]

Gettin there...still need to make more mula so I can spend it on my baby. I basically want to put about $4,000 more into the car. Wheels, Software, C/O's, and some body stuff.

[tomasmdiego]

are you installing it yourself??

[AudiWxGuy]

No. I have a mechanic that can do it. It seems like it should be pretty straight forward. He may not even charge me for the work.

[Noffy]

Lets us know what you think! I am interested in this mod myself. I also don't really care to much about what kind of HP gains you might get or might not get. More air coming in and more air going out has got to be a good thing. How is that saving for the coil overs going? hehehehe The other attraction for me is this is something I could probably do myself!!

Anyways let us/me know how it goes and what you think it affect your exhaust sound and your throttle. Did you have the K and N filter before/currently?

[SEXICÄN]

The Carbonio makes the car "blow off" sound louder, but i love the sound of mine. I know there is no gians in performance, just sounds nicer

[Six Speed Turbo]

I agree, the sound alone is worth it IMO.

[ed@mtl]

I agree, the sound alone is worth it IMO.

That's if you purchase it used. Not really worth it if you bought it brand new.

[Noffy]

Does anyone have some links to a good recordds of the difference in sound that these intake make to your engine?

[ed@mtl]

Does anyone have some links to a good recordds of the difference in sound that these intake make to your engine?

You'll notice it but don't expect it to be very loud and others to notice it as well.

[Noffy]

actually I found a you tube video by kristokes showing the stock and the Carbonio and it was pretty similar. However the car was stationary and just revving the engine. No shifting or boosting.

[marty was here]

actually I found a you tube video by kristokes showing the stock and the Carbonio and it was pretty similar. However the car was stationary and just revving the engine. No shifting or boosting.

stokes is a member here im sure hes gonna chime in

[renz609]

I was planning on getting a Carbonio for sound but I can't justify spending hundreds on it. What I did is I just removed the stock box and put a cone filter that I bought for about $25 and also a heatshield for $90. From what I read in the past, it's supposed to be louder than the Carbonio and I can also hear it with the windows up.

[evilgabbie]

i installed mine myself, pretty straight forward...

if the car isn't moving, there aren't any differences, but in 1st to 3rd, the sound you want is definitely there !!

[RisR32]

Get ready for all that 0% increase in performance, it's going to be pretty intense!

true true...

heres my question though... does anyone actually produce a "real" CAI for this car??

by me saying "real" I mean one that sits near the base of the car?

[OH4NA4]

actually I found a you tube video by kristokes showing the stock and the Carbonio and it was pretty similar. However the car was stationary and just revving the engine. No shifting or boosting.

That is the worst way to compare exhaust or intake sounds. Doing neutral revs is a gross misrepresentation of how the car sounds while accelerating in gear with those mods. [down]

[ItsThat2.0T]

No. I have a mechanic that can do it. It seems like it should be pretty straight forward. He may not even charge me for the work.

Dude just do it yourself. It's so easy. Takes 45 minutes.

[Noffy]

That is the worst way to compare exhaust or intake sounds. Doing neutral revs is a gross misrepresentation of how the car sounds while accelerating in gear with those mods. [down]


it wasn't me

[AudiWxGuy]

Dude just do it yourself. It's so easy. Takes 45 minutes.

I've got no idea how...is there a DIY w/ instructions?

[ItsThat2.0T]

I've got no idea how...is there a DIY w/ instructions?

I'll look if I still have the directions mine came with one sec...

[darren @ SW]

OK....so everyone says there are NO performance gains with the Carbonio. Ive been selling them for years, I finally installed 1 in my car, and I feel a difference. Granted it is not a huge different, but it was something I felt. AND.....I feel my throttle response has improved as well. Ive had it on my car for almost a month now and it DOES make a difference.

[ItsThat2.0T]

I found it. I just realized I didn't bring my all-in-one printer home from school for break so no way to scan it...want to PM a fax #, I can send it to you tomorrow when I get to work.

[Noffy]

OK....so everyone says there are NO performance gains with the Carbonio. Ive been selling them for years, I finally installed 1 in my car, and I feel a difference. Granted it is not a huge different, but it was something I felt. AND.....I feel my throttle response has improved as well. Ive had it on my car for almost a month now and it DOES make a difference.

I don't have one, I am not that experienced in cars and modding them, but I do believe that a CAI has got to be a good thing and better than the stock intake. How much better is the question. But I think our engines would certainly enjoy more cooler air coming through and I think there is definetly a benifit to having it. Wether that means better sounds, more Horse power, better throttle response, a quicker boost response, all of the above, who knows, I don't. But I definetly thing there is going to be a increase in performance.

[Buttafuoco]

But I think our engines would certainly enjoy more cooler air coming through and I think there is definetly a benifit to having it.

They sure would...if this were true.

[sevenstarz]

bhvrdr has a very nice write up that should be posted everytime this topic comes up and it does come up alot!!!

By the way I have Carbonio and no way do I think it's worth the price new, which is what I paid for it but Mike's post is very detailed.

Peace

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=86411&highlight=carbonio

[Noffy]

It does seem pretty darn expensive new, especially when it is widely debated how much if any performance gains it gives your engine.

[Sanjman]

Dude... get your hands dirty and do it yourself! Once you do one thing... you'll start learning to do more things in the future... will save you TONS of labor charges!!!

It ain't brain surgery! haha

[renz609]

Dude... get your hands dirty and do it yourself! Once you do one thing... you'll start learning to do more things in the future... will save you TONS of labor charges!!!

It ain't brain surgery! haha

Yep. I think the only difficulty you will run into is removing the bottom screw connecting the MAF to the airbox.

[Noffy]

Dude... get your hands dirty and do it yourself! Once you do one thing... you'll start learning to do more things in the future... will save you TONS of labor charges!!!

It ain't brain surgery! haha


this i so true and I sure wish I had someone to hand hold me through a few things and then I would be off and running. I have the buddy in town that use to rebuild old german cars, like 1950s porsches and the like, but somewhere along the way he either started disliking it or had an accident because he carries no confidence on new german cars, like my audi. I would love to learn how to do alot of these things because then I my next audi I could save alot of labor charges and just put some of the things on myself.

[SEXICÄN]

wow if there are performance gains I bet it's like 1/16 a hp if even that.

you say you "feel" like it has all this gain and you must be the only one "feeling" this!

[Noffy]

wow if there are performance gains I bet it's like 1/16 a hp if even that.

you say you "feel" like it has all this gain and you must be the only one "feeling" this!


who is "you"?

[viperdsa]

OK....so everyone says there are NO performance gains with the Carbonio. Ive been selling them for years, I finally installed 1 in my car, and I feel a difference. Granted it is not a huge different, but it was something I felt. AND.....I feel my throttle response has improved as well. Ive had it on my car for almost a month now and it DOES make a difference.
I'm pretty sure he's talking about this post.

[Jmaak]

Isn't it funny how only the people that SELL the Carbonio are the ones that say it makes a difference....

[AudiWxGuy]

I know there is no performance gain. But more air into the engine can't hurt anything. Plus, I like the sound.

[Noffy]

I know there is no performance gain. But more air into the engine can't hurt anything. Plus, I like the sound.


bingo, I think buying one new isnt really worth the money, and least the carbonio, but you can get them close to half off used and at that price I think its a good upgrade for our engines. I would really like to get you opinion after you have it install and driven it awhile. Also did you ask your dealer about the intake and their feelings?

edit: I also think it would make the engine look real sharp if you combined this with the engine cover for the other side of the compartment. Thats what i am working towards anyways.

[darren @ SW]

Isn't it funny how only the people that SELL the Carbonio are the ones that say it makes a difference....

I've sold them for years, I've also talked people out of them as well. I had one on my Jetta, and made 0 difference other than a sound that I disliked. On the MKV 2.0t I have dyno'd before and after and proved there was a HP increase. I have a Mustang Dyno in my shop, and have done quite a few dyno's with the MKV. I put it on my car for asthetics only. But after driving it I did feel a difference. If you knew me you would know how honest I am, and I only sell what I believe in. I'm not saying I'm going out and selling Carbonios to the world, as a matter of fact I talked a customer out of one yesterday. I'm only stating my experience.

[Jmaak]

I appreciate your honesty, you wouldn't happen to still have those dynographs would you? Don't get me wrong, I am not trying to say that you, specifically, are just out to screw everyone, its just that this debate has gone on for ages, and it seems like almost always vendors speak up and say it makes proven power.

[TunaRollZ]

OK....so everyone says there are NO performance gains with the Carbonio. Ive been selling them for years, I finally installed 1 in my car, and I feel a difference. Granted it is not a huge different, but it was something I felt. AND.....I feel my throttle response has improved as well. Ive had it on my car for almost a month now and it DOES make a difference.

Hi Darren. Do you sell the EVO MS intake for the b7? What do you think of the EVOMS vs. Carbonio? I'm local, looking to pick one up soon. Thanks!

[4-tified]

I appreciate your honesty, you wouldn't happen to still have those dynographs would you? Don't get me wrong, I am not trying to say that you, specifically, are just out to screw everyone, its just that this debate has gone on for ages, and it seems like almost always vendors speak up and say it makes proven power.

Keep in mind, the car he tested was the VW 2.0t setup, like the A3.
Similar to the A4 2.0T yes, but intake placement, intake path, IC, and engine placement are different as well.

[Tiesto]

Can anyone tell us why it's so necessarry to have 2 different 2.0T setups for the A3/A4?

[chrislane31]

Different engine setups. The a4 runs NS and the A3 runs EW.

[AlexK]

Ns, Ew?

[chrislane31]

North South, East West

As in Longitudinal or transverse.

[AlexK]

Ahh. I think the question was WHY did Audi choose to make it different. I was wondering the same thing just never heard of this alternate way of describing it.

[chrislane31]

The A3 is built on the mk5 chassis and the A4 is on its own chassis. The A3 also gets the cheaper awd.

[fD3S]

true true...

heres my question though... does anyone actually produce a "real" CAI for this car??

by me saying "real" I mean one that sits near the base of the car?

I would think that cooler air with a traditional CAI would not make a difference because the air still has to go into the hot turbo and will come out as hot air, especially when us chipped guys are maxing out the capacity of the K03. The more you push the turbo, the hotter the temperature of the boost, I know that for a fact. Having said that I think the Carbonio will be the same as an intake that pulls air from under the car and personally I rather have the carbonio than have to face a flood situation or a large pudle, then you would have water in your turbo.

[johntesi]

So how did the CAI work out for you?

[darren @ SW]

Hi Darren. Do you sell the EVO MS intake for the b7? What do you think of the EVOMS vs. Carbonio? I'm local, looking to pick one up soon. Thanks!

Sorry Only the Carbonio, and right now out of stock.

[A4donkey]

Not looking for performance. I want the sound + the increased airflow to help my exhuast sound a little better. I've done the research.

+Since it's used its only $200 vs. the almost $400 new.

Drill a hole on your both exhaust muffler you will have much bettter sound....[:D]

[TunaRollZ]

Sorry Only the Carbonio, and right now out of stock.

Cool deal. Thanks.

[A4addict]

I would think that cooler air with a traditional CAI would not make a difference because the air still has to go into the hot turbo and will come out as hot air.

This is exactly why gains are little or none. At higher rpm's, you'll notice some gains because of more airflow.

Besides. Nowadays, any setup that improves gas mileage is ftmfw. My EvoM CAI gave me about 10-15 more miles to the tank before my exhaust setup. Together with my exhaust, gave me about 20-30 more.

[Six Speed Turbo]

Waaaapshhhhh