Best HID lookalike Halogen bulb

[redlabel81]

Hi!

I was just wondering what people think is the best HID lookalike halogen bulb??
I don't want it to be all blue and no light on the road!

Regards
Eirik
Norway

[Sharkfin]

silverstar ultra h7's are pretty good

[redlabel81]

Installed them yesterday.........Not that happy....Still yellowish.
Very good light on the road though.
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[Sharkfin]

yeah well its tough to get rid of that look, but they are brighter than stock

[davis449]

I gave up trying to get HID look on my previous car and just went for what put more light on the road. At the time the regular Sylvania Silverstars did the trick for me. Not an HID look totally, but not ugly like stock. The brighter light output definitely looked better.

[Sanjman]

where's the pics??? i was considering it... because it's cheaper and puts more light on the ground...

[redlabel81]

What about Hoen? Like the colour but I am not sure about the light output......?
Anyone with pics?

[LAS]

http://www.hoen-usa.com/

[gods_kitchen]

Hoen = [up]

[WantAvant]

Do Hoen's have as good of a light output as the silverstar's?

[socaljoe]

I use Roadmax Metal White bulbs for my truck and car. The light output is white(though bulbs are tinted blue) and brighter than stock
http://www.lightlens.com/bulbs.htm

[redlabel81]

Anyone with pics of there car with hoen H7?

[mr.eugene]

very interested too, 50$ vs a G is a big difference. Service techs tell me putting in bluish bulbs will do the trick, but I'm a bit nervous that it will look much the same as stock minus the 50$ bucks I will spend. So does Sylvania Ultra look bluish enough not to tell the difference or Hoen looks more blueish ? Or should I stop kidding myself, spend a grand and get real hid housings and lights ? I don't live in the middle of nowhere - lights are pretty much everywhere I drive, so lightning the road is not so much of a concern.. though I got used to having xenons on my bimmer..

[redlabel81]

I installed the Silverstar Ultra. Not impressed! Good light but to yellow.
Also got used to Xenon on my A6 :p
Have read on this forum about people putting the blue bulbs in the halogen housings and complaning about that the whole housing turns blue when the bulbs are of...:p

Would love to get the OEM Xenon housing, but if they don't find autoadjusting the car wont get trough the EU check here i Norway and I would have to remove them again to be able to get the car roadlegal again......

So anyone with pictures of the Höen in halogen housing on B7??

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[Sharkfin]

i agree, i was not completely satisfied with the silverstar ultras and they are not bluish at all. i also tried the silverstar cool blue and they werent bluish at all once i put them in the headlamps!

[redlabel81]

Wonder how the Höen looks on our cars......Nobody out there with pics???

[pedro]

Do the silverstar ultras have a clear glass bulb to them or are they blue. i want a higher performance halogen bulb for my car, i just don't want that ricey blue headlight housing effect that every civic has.

[Sharkfin]

clear glass

[pedro]

clear glass

Thanks, I'm going to hit the local autoparts stores tonight and see if i can find a set.

H7 right?

[coryliv]

Just reinforce what everyone else has said already. I tried Hoen initially and had a bad experience with them (search posts for more info and pics). I eventually switched them out for the silverstars (utlras I believe) and like them alot. I still have the stock city/parking lights in and the sylvania bulbs look almost pure white next to them. Plus their build quality is much better than the Hoens (IMO). The Hoens reminded me of something I would buy off of Ebay. The silver coating on the front of the bulbs flaked off after using for less than 2 weeks.

[pedro]

I just found a $10 rebate form on the Sylvania website if you buy a pair of Silverstar Ultra lamps. $10 off makes them a pretty good deal if you ask me. [:)]

here is the link to the rebate form. [race]
http://dafnwebpd.sylvania.com/os_filenet_pages/FnDocIdDisplay.asp?id=003695172

[Sanjman]

That "blue" look from halogen are illegal, ricey, and make our cars look like a cheap peace of shit.

You'll never be happy unless you go with xenon projectors.

So is silverstar ultra the whitest you can get? pictures PUHHHHHLLEASE?

[mr.eugene]

That "blue" look from halogen are illegal, ricey, and make our cars look like a cheap peace of shit.

You'll never be happy unless you go with xenon projectors.

So is silverstar ultra the whitest you can get? pictures PUHHHHHLLEASE?
Okay Sanjaman, I think you are right. Where do we go to get the xenons, I've asked lowestA4 - but I think that connection has dried up - he never replied to PM's.. Any ideas ?

[Sanjman]

Okay Sanjaman, I think you are right. Where do we go to get the xenons, I've asked lowestA4 - but I think that connection has dried up - he never replied to PM's.. Any ideas ?

i'm pretty sure that connection hasn't 'dried' up. People from here recently just got them. Give the guy some time, don't expect a PM 10 minutes after yours. haha. However, I have to say, I haven't personally communicated with him.

[wezlo]

this car pic is jacked from another thred not my a4....h11 hoen fogs

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g263/Evoic/Spoiler/FogsGTG006.jpg

[LAS]

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g263/Evoic/Spoiler/FogsGTG006.jpg

my hoen fogs look the same^^^

[wezlo]

lol wow thats funny thats like the same time i was posting your pic lol

[grizzles]

I think the Hoens look the best personally although the output might be a little low for people who drive alot of back roads. I don't think they are ricey looking at all, just a hint of blue like xenons. While I am not going to say they look dead on I have compared them to and avant's xenons and they don't look bad (except for no projector of course). I have the whole Hoen shebang: lows, highs, city, and fogs. I think OEM HIDs are coming soon though...

[mr.eugene]

can some one post pictures of Hoens in low beams ? not in high / not in fogs - just in regular lights..
also if anyone has pictures of silverstar ultras - would be awesome too.. I know that xenons are the way to go - but idea of removing bumper and possibly voiding warranty worries me..

[DestineD]

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g263/Evoic/Spoiler/FogsGTG006.jpg

my hoen fogs look the same^^^

Does anyone know what color temperature those bulbs are? 5000K?

[Sharkfin]

they are halogen look alikes!

[mr.eugene]

I think the Hoens look the best personally although the output might be a little low for people who drive alot of back roads. I don't think they are ricey looking at all, just a hint of blue like xenons. While I am not going to say they look dead on I have compared them to and avant's xenons and they don't look bad (except for no projector of course). I have the whole Hoen shebang: lows, highs, city, and fogs. I think OEM HIDs are coming soon though...

Grizzles, when you say Hoens look the best - do you mean the fogs or the low beams ? Im looking for pictures of Hoens in place of current OEM H7 bulbs, if anyone has the pics?

[Louis J.]

If you're looking to piss off those driving in front of you at night, then I guess the halogens will work for you. Every time someone gets behind me at night with those fake POS blue lights all I think is "poser".

With so many options on eBay for HIDs ~$150, why would you buy anything else? I bought the $150 HIDs from eBay on a GB from another car forum and put them on my car. Neither I or the other guys who bought them had any problems with them. It's a quick DIY.

[grizzles]

If you're looking to piss off those driving in front of you at night, then I guess the halogens will work for you. Every time someone gets behind me at night with those fake POS blue lights all I think is "poser".

With so many options on eBay for HIDs ~$150, why would you buy anything else? I bought the $150 HIDs from eBay on a GB from another car forum and put them on my car. Neither I or the other guys who bought them had any problems with them. It's a quick DIY.

Hoens aren't "POS blue bulbs" if that is what you are referring to. I don't see how they can blind anyone at night when their light output is slightly better than stock halogens and the color temperature is slightly less than stock HID. Honestly I think someone is a poser more for putting a cheap ebay HID kit in a halogen housing (will blind drivers due to no cutoff from projector) than someone who just wants some better halogen bulbs.

[grizzles]

Grizzles, when you say Hoens look the best - do you mean the fogs or the low beams ? Im looking for pictures of Hoens in place of current OEM H7 bulbs, if anyone has the pics?

Both, the fogs match the stock HID very well and the lows look nice, clear white with just a hint of blue. I tried a couple brands and found that the Hoens looked the nicest and honestly pictures won't really help you, they all look different once you are in the car.

[IbisA4]

If you're looking to piss off those driving in front of you at night, then I guess the halogens will work for you. Every time someone gets behind me at night with those fake POS blue lights all I think is "poser".

With so many options on eBay for HIDs ~$150, why would you buy anything else? I bought the $150 HIDs from eBay on a GB from another car forum and put them on my car. Neither I or the other guys who bought them had any problems with them. It's a quick DIY.

I like how you automatically assume that someone is a poser becuase they do not want to fork out the money for HID's. Nice. While I do admit that HID's are great looking, I am not willing to fork out the money for them. So, if that makes me a poser, so be it.

[Sanjman]

Hoens aren't "POS blue bulbs" if that is what you are referring to. I don't see how they can blind anyone at night when their light output is slightly better than stock halogens and the color temperature is slightly less than stock HID. Honestly I think someone is a poser more for putting a cheap ebay HID kit in a halogen housing (will blind drivers due to no cutoff from projector) than someone who just wants some better halogen bulbs.

Completely agreeing. "posers" are the ones who think putting these ILLEGAL HID KITs on their car driving around aren't blinding people. There is a reason why it is made for "off road" use only. Halogen housings are NOT made for HID/Xenon lights and for a reason. You need the Xenon projector housings to properly aim the xenon light down to the ground because xenon light goes all over UNLIKE halogens. The cheap "blue" halogen lights look shitty, I admit, but can only piss the person in front of them off is by the dude fudging with the aiming of the halogen bulbs OR the dude has his high beams on.

Overall, aftermarket HID kits blind more people than those POS blue halogen bulbs.

[AKaess]

I've been extremely happy with my Eurolights xenon-charged bulbs. I tried the silverstars first and definately too yellow. The light is pure white with a little blue at certain angles just like xenon. As far as output, these are definately better than stock and about the same as silverstars. I've never tried the hoens but I would definately get these if I had to do it again. http://eurolamps.com/eurolamps/xenon-charged.htm

[mr.eugene]

I keep hearing about HOEN lights - I just don't know which ones to choose? They have titanium and xenon match plus? so which of two should I get ?

[redlabel81]

Go with the Xenonmatch. The plus are 70w bulbs.

[mr.eugene]

Go with the Xenonmatch. The plus are 70w bulbs.

So from the HOEN site - they have

xenonmatch titanium - 49$
http://www.hoen-usa.com/ti.htm

xenonmatch 29$
http://www.hoen-usa.com/fog.htm

xenonmatch Plus 37$
http://www.hoen-usa.com/plus.htm

which ones to order for best HID like results ?

[mr.eugene]

so, any one can advise?

[grizzles]

so, any one can advise?

as the post above says, xenonmatch

don't get the plus or titanium or whatever, they draw more power therefore they get hotter and melt things without proper wiring, etc.

[mr.eugene]

as the post above says, xenonmatch

don't get the plus or titanium or whatever, they draw more power therefore they get hotter and melt things without proper wiring, etc.

strangely hoen site lists xenonmatch as fog bulbs?

[grizzles]

doesn't matter

[Louis J.]

Hoens aren't "POS blue bulbs" if that is what you are referring to. I don't see how they can blind anyone at night when their light output is slightly better than stock halogens and the color temperature is slightly less than stock HID. Honestly I think someone is a poser more for putting a cheap ebay HID kit in a halogen housing (will blind drivers due to no cutoff from projector) than someone who just wants some better halogen bulbs.

Did I make reference to Hoens in my post? No. Did I say I put a "cheap" HID kit in my car? No. So WTF are you talking about?

People who buy shitty blue lights to "pose" as though they have HIDs are by definition a "poser" and they piss me off, along with most other drivers because thier poser POS blue lights are blinding.

As for the $150 HID kits from eBay, Just because litronics were a $3k option on my car when it sold new back in 1996, doesn't mean that a similar aftermarket kit today selling for $150 is cheap. The kit I'm referring to looks exactly like the OEM for my car and they worked perfectly up until the time I sold my car. There's a difference between cheap and good value.

[Sharkfin]

^^and what kit is that?

[Louis J.]

I like how you automatically assume that someone is a poser becuase they do not want to fork out the money for HID's. Nice. While I do admit that HID's are great looking, I am not willing to fork out the money for them. So, if that makes me a poser, so be it.

Cheap, blinding POS blue lights that have no other function other than to look like, pretend or pose to be HID, Xenons, Litronics or whatever you want to call them = POSER headlights. No assumptions being made here, just a statement of opinion with which you're welcome to disagree. So who's making the assumptions about what here?

HIDs are not about "looking" great, they're about the function of safety. If expanding your visibility at night is important to you (which is why I updated my horrid factory halogens (not Audi) to HIDs), you may want to consider doing it right and spend the $$$ required to do so. But based on your statements above, it seems you might be after a "look" in which case, this would be a bling mod for you and yes, that make's you a poser to some.

[Louis J.]

^^and what kit is that?

I bought the Vertex for Porsche 993 on a GB from rennlist.com. They sell them on eBay anywhere from ~200 to ~$260. IIRC, I paid ~$150 and know of others that bought other brands on eBay for as cheap as ~$130.

[Sanjman]

Did I make reference to Hoens in my post? No. Did I say I put a "cheap" HID kit in my car? No. So WTF are you talking about?

People who buy shitty blue lights to "pose" as though they have HIDs are by definition a "poser" and they piss me off, along with most other drivers because thier poser POS blue lights are blinding.

As for the $150 HID kits from eBay, Just because litronics were a $3k option on my car when it sold new back in 1996, doesn't mean that a similar aftermarket kit today selling for $150 is cheap. The kit I'm referring to looks exactly like the OEM for my car and they worked perfectly up until the time I sold my car. There's a difference between cheap and good value.

You have to understand when we talk about this HID kits, we are talking about it in related to AUDI cars and much more specifically to your B7s which offer 2 options: halogen lights or upgrade to bi-xenon. The halogen housings for the B7s do NOT have projector housings THEREFORE may be blinding when you use these HID kits ON NON PROJECTOR HOUSINGS. If you already have projector housings, then you are already equiped with xenon/HID lights which in this case don't have to upgrade using this HID kits.

If you had a 993... then your car was already equipped with projector housings but with halogen bulbs. THEREFORE, your HID kit performed well and looked good.

for Audi... you have to switch to projector housings (which you can buy through OEM parts) others there is a good chance you will be blinding people. Regardless... the "blue" lights are crap as you said cuz they are blue and do not perform the way xenons do. But they are blinding only if they were installed improperly. However, these HID kits are CRAP for us halogen housing people BECAUSE they don't aim the lights properly.

Hopefully this should sum up and clarify everything for you and help you understand WHY your HID kit worked out well for your 993 and why it may not be the same for our B7s. Yes you will see much better... but everyone around you will see less thanks to the HID kit on your B7.

[grizzles]

Did I make reference to Hoens in my post? No. Did I say I put a "cheap" HID kit in my car? No. So WTF are you talking about?

People who buy shitty blue lights to "pose" as though they have HIDs are by definition a "poser" and they piss me off, along with most other drivers because thier poser POS blue lights are blinding.

As for the $150 HID kits from eBay, Just because litronics were a $3k option on my car when it sold new back in 1996, doesn't mean that a similar aftermarket kit today selling for $150 is cheap. The kit I'm referring to looks exactly like the OEM for my car and they worked perfectly up until the time I sold my car. There's a difference between cheap and good value.

I figured since the previous post was about Hoens you were talking about them and I disagreed that they were shitty "blue" lights used by "posers". As for the cheap HID kit, etc, sanjman has said what I was going to say below. I thought you put the kit in a halogen housing on an Audi.

[Louis J.]

Thanks for the clarification guys. I had no idea B7s don't have projector housings. I guess it would've helped if I had explained that I'm a newb to B7 A4s and had installed my HIDs on a 993. I'm so new, I don't even own one yet, but hopefully that will change next week. I'm looking at a well optioned 06 Avant S-Line 6 speed in Ibis/blk with Tech, Nav, Prem and Xenons. [up]

[LAS]

I guess it would've helped if I had explained that I'm a newb to B7 A4s

and that you just joined less than a month ago.[;)]

[Quigaboo]

Fogs are a waste IMO unless you are driving in the fog at night. I personally hate the things and the one time i drove with them on, I got pulled over. Didn't get a ticket cuz the cop assumed I was some kid cruising around ( I think he was "profiling" me. ).

Anyhow they add character to the car, but if make the upgrade, I would perfer the new s6 fogs.

[Sanjman]

Fogs are a waste IMO unless you are driving in the fog at night. I personally hate the things and the one time i drove with them on, I got pulled over. Didn't get a ticket cuz the cop assumed I was some kid cruising around ( I think he was "profiling" me. ).

Anyhow they add character to the car, but if make the upgrade, I would perfer the new s6 fogs.

fogs aren't illegal... you had no reason to get pulled over for them on. If they were illegal, our cars wouldn't come from the Audi factory with fogs.

[mr.eugene]

just ordered 2 xenonmatch bulbs from Hoen.

will see when they arrive.


I will post pictures for anyone that is interested - once i get them in the car.

[Sharkfin]

yes please do, did you get it for the fogs or low beams?