My newest diy project...pulled fenders/widebody

[Starting]

Since my car is nonfunctional due to a blown turbo I have decided that I want to pull/slightly widebody my car. And since I am crazy I have decided that I am going to do it myself. So far I don't have much progress but I will update as I go along.

Plan right now is to go about 2 inches wider.

Here is the car as it sits now after a day of work.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/hampp2/widebody/PA070154.jpg

[A4_2.8tuner]

cool dude. keep us updated.

[Euro-Tuner]

I was wondering what the hell happened to you...its gonna look good, what are your plans with the engine?

[Starting]

Engine is gonna stay stock right now. I am sending the turbo out to be rebuilt later this week or next.

[docurley]

Very intresting post up as you go along.

[20A4Audi1.8t01]

Nice man! I wouldnt even know where to start on something like that haha but looks like u got a good start and know what your doing!

Keep us updated!

[4ringAR]

you are the master(or at least nut-job) of DIY body modifications.

good luck with it all.

[onemoremile]

Hey, my neighbor's house is for sale and I could really use a better neighbor. I'll do your drivetrain and chassis work if you tuck some 295s under my ride.[;)]

[CaSp3r9]

http://www.projectorstudio.com/projects/images/ballin.jpg

[attamz]

you suck

[AudiTurrbo19]

Thats gunna look sick... you should definitely do a write up with it, now that would be awesome

[audiFUEGO]

damn you got balls...

[fatty1.8t]

good luck, im curious to see how it will turn out

[andyrew]

Cutting and adding metal or hammer and dolly method?

I added 4 inches to my porsche fenders with the hammer and dolly method.. took about 200 hours, went from 205's to 285's (and 75hp to 350hp...)

[tunerb5]

I just finished mine along with a few other surprices.....pics will be up very soon.

[A4Rob]

LOL I was honestly just about to post up a thread about this, because I started mine this weekend too. I dont have any pics yet though

[SoFresh]

I once saw a write up for a WRX widebody somewhere that used this same method, its going to look really good when its all finished! [up] these are my favorite types of threads, cant wait to see the progress!!

[a4_ohboy]

keep us updated ive been thinking about doing this as my winter project

[audiFUEGO]

ur ALL doing this? wow please make write ups. [up]

How much downtime is expected for this?

[Starting]

onemoremile: does it have a nice big detached garage lol? you wouldnt mind the smell of paint fumes everyonce and awhile would ya?

Cutting and adding metal or hammer and dolly method?

I am going to be adding metal. I want to maintain the half inch lip on the outside and this seems like the easiest way.


How much downtime is expected for this?
Not sure. Right now the car isn't drivable anyway due to a blown turbo.

I plan to do a writeup when I'm finished.

[AudiTurrbo19]

I can't wait to see all of your results from the multiple people doing this

[auto_euroticaA4]

http://www.projectorstudio.com/projects/images/ballin.jpg


hahah most definitly

[TonyD]

Damn taht takes balls

[pipe7284]

nice!!! at least you know what your are doing.. good luck with the results, keep us updated.

[andyrew]

Plan on about 40 hours of work per fender at least. Then another 50 hours designing it on paper, in your head, ect...


Like I said i've done it on other cars.. its a PITA but cool as heck

[attamz]

I thought I was one of the only ones with this. It is a s*** load of work. Mine is a one inch extension similar to the one above to retain the lip on the inner fender.
http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r266/attamz/pull.jpg

[zionrider]

Starting that's going to look hot. I'm sure you'll have no problems as you seem to have skills of this nature. Since you painted your car and all I guess you needed a new challenge. Your masking job seems to hint that the car will stay the same color. In that case it will look super tight. Keep us posted and good luck.[up]

[A4Rob]

attamz, can i get a pic of your rear arches?

[attamz]

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r266/attamz/pull1.jpg

[Starting]

The masking job is more just to keep me from going too crazy right now. I definetly want to do a color change down the road. Maybe the same color with a flat clear. Not sure.


Starting that's going to look hot. I'm sure you'll have no problems as you seem to have skills of this nature. Since you painted your car and all I guess you needed a new challenge. Your masking job seems to hint that the car will stay the same color. In that case it will look super tight. Keep us posted and good luck.[up]

[nstabl]

just wondering.. u cant drive the car with a blown turbo?

[Poopie]

looks awesome man! This thread is a godsend. There hasn't been too many interesting posts lately...I even wandered off into the s4 forums to find something interesting to read.

[Starting]

Here is todays update. Progress is moving along well and I am very happy with how it is going. As you can see I make welding on small pieces to make the curve. They are much easier to shape as I go. I am hoping to finish up the rough metal work tomorrow.

I am just holding the outer piece up for some of the photos.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/hampp2/widebody/PA080152.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/hampp2/widebody/PA080148.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/hampp2/widebody/PA080149.jpg

[projectdarka4]

dude what kinda grill is that?

[hiwords1]

looks like a floating grille

[Starting]

just wondering.. u cant drive the car with a blown turbo?

Mine was throwing tons of oil into the exhaust so I took it off to get it rebuilt. I have to get it sent out.


dude what kinda grill is that?

Stock but modified with color matched rings and surround. From normal angles it gives a sort of floating illusion.

[Das General]

It's gonna look sweet. But what are you going to do about wheels?

[Starting]

For now the plan is just huge spacers on my ch's. that may change though.

[seank]

factory rs4 bumper to cap it off i hope. Looks like you are making good progress so far, it will be interesting to see how you finish the arches.

[projectdarka4]

if i send you my grill, will you modify it like that?

[audiness]

gonna be a lot of work man, but keep us updated!!

[andyrew]

Thats quite an agressive little curve you got there! I had thought you were going to take more of a slot and move, then fill the gap approach.. damn it if I cant find pictures...

[docurley]

Thats looking dam good.

[Starting]

My goal is a very subtle dtm style widebody look. I think I am achieving my goal so far.

[tunerb5]

damn, you went way beyong what I did.

[Eurotuned_A4]

wow, this is nuts. although if i knew how to paint/weld id probably do the same to my a4 now that i have another car to drive.

cant wait to see it finished and i hope it turns out good for you. huge props for you.

[Euro-Tuner]

thats gonna look ill!!!!!!!! cant wait to see the finished project, be sure to keep us updated weekly

[Euro-Tuner]

thats gonna look ill!!!!!!!! cant wait to see the finished project, be sure to keep us updated weekly[up][up]

[jrodmk2]

too donny mak for me. i though it was going to be much smoother, like the b5.
i guess it all depends on how much you soften it.
props on the work and effort though.

[Eurotuned_A4]

i think once he begins to shape it more it will smooth out, that was my impression anyways.

[Starting]

I didnt end up getting too much done today since it began to rain on me. The basic metal work is done. Just have to cut and grind to fit the outer lip. I did the basic work on the lip to have the ledge all the way around. As long as the weather is halfway decent I should get that on tomorrow. I have decided I am going to lead it, which is a first to me.

I am not going to a rs4 widebody look. This is my own design. I'm not trying to replicate the stuff that I have seen done before. I do think it will compliment the cars lines.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/hampp2/widebody/PA090156.jpg




if i send you my grill, will you modify it like that?

No, but it really isnt hard to do.

[AudiA4_20T]

Hey rich that angle is really sharp man you should cut higher into the fender

[andyrew]

Wire feed no gas?

You should seriously put a tank setup on your welder... You'll make your tacks much nicer and have WAY less work to do to clean it up...

and get that metal outa the rain!!! Throw some damn weld through primer on it!! (thin layer)

Your fenders will look awesome, just keep up the work and make templates so that the other side can match perfectly.. Cardboard works good, and so does stiff construction paper.

[audiFUEGO]

^^^ i agree since you said u want a subtle look...


and also about ur grille... i dont think its a illusion because i can see your fmic brackets thru ur grille...

btw, i think u would get better performance out of ur fmic if you install it the other way.

[Starting]

Wire feed no gas?

You should seriously put a tank setup on your welder... You'll make your tacks much nicer and have WAY less work to do to clean it up...

and get that metal outa the rain!!! Throw some damn weld through primer on it!! (thin layer)

Your fenders will look awesome, just keep up the work and make templates so that the other side can match perfectly.. Cardboard works good, and so does stiff construction paper.


No gas hookup on this welder. Yes i should throw some weld through primer. The fender is under an awing so its not getting rained on but I still should.

About the angle of the fender. I have an idea and I'm going with it.

The grill if your a couple feet away it looks fine. When you kneel down directly in front of it and use a flash, yes it does look bad. Audifuego are you saying that because hot air rises? I would doubt that it would have an effect due to the pressure situation.

[andyrew]

Direct rain will do just as much as condensation. The moisture in the air will rust (surface) bare metal in like 24 hours, this is in dry conditions....

Just be careful, you want your paint to stick and not flake 3 years down the line...

[Starting]

I sprayed it down with some wd40 but really should have done the weldthrough primer.

[audiFUEGO]

yes i said that because hot air rises, Ive just heard mike say something about that... I think i understand what ur saying tho... that the pressure would fill the whole core anyways?

I do agree with that, but also remeber that even tho theres a huge amount of pressure coming in, theres also vacuum on the other side... and the easiest and shortest distance for the air to travel is in a straight line leaving me to believe that a very small amount of air ever sees the bottom of your core. (especially since hot air rises.)

I dunno i may be wrong.

[sean1.8t]

i like how everyone thinks that your finished project is going to look exactly like what it is currently. i don't know your exact design is but i think once you lead it, it's going to look sick. i can't wait to see the finished product [up]

[lude2euroa4]

so i stopped by riches to see what kind of trouble hes gotten himself into this time. and after being there for about 10-15 mins we went over his ideas and goals for the look and style of the widebody. after hearing what hes doing i will be shocked if any of you dont like the look. its not donny mak and its not rs4... its rich hampp style. be prepared for some jaw dropping it gonna be hott!!

keep up the great work

[Starting]

My fender finally looks like a fender.

All the basic metal work is done. I also began to lead it. It took a little while to get a hang of it but by the end I felt comfortable. Plan for tomorrow is to finish leading it, shape it, throw a coat of primer on, and then the fun part; move to the other side.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/hampp2/widebody/PA100153.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/hampp2/widebody/PA100151.jpg

[Tifun]

I cant wait to see it with the primer....thats when it will really show how drastic the change really is.

[A4Rob]

More pics!

[audiFUEGO]

wow ur getting this done pretty quick...

[Eurotuned_A4]

good progress so far!

keep up the good work and the quick updates!!!

[SoFresh]

I think this is going to look amazing. Is it going to look something like this...

http://www.rushkits.com/stores/rushkits/catalog/BMWFlossman.jpg

I once saw a complete build up of this widebody kit for this BMW above, it was pretty sweet to see the progress.

[Starting]

Another rainy day limited my progress. It is all sorta one color with some primer sprayed on to prevent rust. I still have to finish reshaping the lead that is on there, and I am going to relead it once more. I might leave this fender like this for a bit and move to the other side. It is close enough that I will be able to finish it with a bit of bodywork.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/hampp2/widebody/PA110148.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/hampp2/widebody/PA110145.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/hampp2/widebody/PA110144.jpg

[audiFUEGO]

looking good so far... i guess you can say the hard part is done

[4ringAR]

at the moment, im not a huge fan. but i will wait 'till the end to make any comments on the look.

[A4_2.8tuner]

looking good so far... i guess you can say the hard part is done

i'd say the harder part is smoothing it to perfection...but you're right, the welding is tough.


i think it will look good once done, its still too early in the process to really see what its gonna look like, IMO.

[andyrew]

Im gona have to say design and replication is the biggest bitch...

Your looking good so far! For a first timer on this be estatic that you'll be able to use it!! (alot of people thow away their work because it didnt work, they dont like it, they warped the metal, ect..)


I cant wait till its done.. but the rears...

[offroader1006]

I think this is going to look amazing. Is it going to look something like this...

http://www.rushkits.com/stores/rushkits/catalog/BMWFlossman.jpg

I once saw a complete build up of this widebody kit for this BMW above, it was pretty sweet to see the progress.

haha, nice, UBER is everywhere!

[A4_2.8tuner]

starting, how do you plan on tying it in with the sideskirts and front/rear bumpers?

[audiFUEGO]

starting, how do you plan on tying it in with the sideskirts and front/rear bumpers?

exactly what i was wondering

[lude2euroa4]

looking good, id say smooth it out a bit, make it a cleaner and move onto the other side :) ... progres is moving quickly turn off the discovery channel and work more!

[Starting]

starting, how do you plan on tying it in with the sideskirts and front/rear bumpers?

The sideskirts will be moved out on brackets, and then the material will be added to the top of them. Not sure what sides I am going to use. I may stick with my reiger, or use a pair of smoothed abt's that I have. The bumpers are going to be reworked.

[audiFUEGO]

smoothed abts ftw!!

plz plz plz dont use the reigers

[nizmosx]

^^^ agree

[SoFresh]

Make some new side skirts that look DTM style out of sheet metal or aluminum... it would be the easiest part of the project... I once thought about doing this when I had my a4, however I didnt have time to do the fenders and didnt want to even try the rears... but for the side skirts, go with something simple, and striaght....

[audiFUEGO]

i know you said you wanted to design your own curves and u dont want it looking like everyone elses...but... if you dont make ur sides atleast somewhat resemble RS4/RS6 sides, then IMO this whole project wasnt worth your time.

Imo, NOTHING looks better than a plain, extended sideskirt on any widebody car. would make it look soo clean and non-rice

Just giving my 2 cents take it for what its worth[:D]

[jakecro]

haha, nice, UBER is everywhere!

aaaaaaaaah





should have used the hooters pics

[Tifun]

So...it is obvious that this isn't going to be the only change. What wheel are you going with? I may have missed this already...

[TMorris]

For now the plan is just huge spacers on my ch's. that may change though.

[up]!!!

[a4cefed]

i cant wait to see the end pics

[bellofello]

mmm looking good, DIY'er of the century?

[Starting]

Since reiger glue is the devil I spent most of my time taking off the passenger side skirt today. I did however have time to make a template and mark where I will cut on the passenger fender and shave the turnsignal. Since my updates have been a bit stale I figured I do a quick writeup on how to shave a turnsignal. This is how i would do it, disclaimer if you wreck your car not my fault, blah blah blah.

This is a pretty easy mod; if you are painting your fender.

1. I always like to wash down a fender with dishwashing soap before doing paint work.

2. Mark out where you want to cut to make a filler piece.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/hampp2/widebody/PA060159.jpg

3. Cut out the peice you marked. Then sand down the outside area so you have bare metal to weld to. I then use a file to clean up any burrs.

4. You can either use the piece you cut or the hole to make a template on paper, or a folder, which is what I used. Since my hands are always dirty I just put the folder over the hold and rub my hand over it. Cut out the template, trace it on a piece of sheet metal, and then cut it out. I use a small angle grinder to do my cutting.

4. Make sure you have a good fit with your piece. There is a very slight bend in the fender and you want your filler piece to follow those lines. If you just weld it in straight you are going to be forced to use more filler then you would want to. Once you have your piece cut and bent fit it in the fender. You want a very tight fit with metal this thin. The more space you leave the more weld and heat you have to put into the fender. This can lead to warpage or burn though.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/hampp2/widebody/PA120141.jpg

5. Once your piece is cut and fit then it is time to weld it in. I weld a holder to the piece so I can move it easily around and hold it exactly where I want it. You could also use a magnet. This is a small piece of metal so you have to be very careful with the amount of heat you put into it. Go slow while welding. I use tacks and alternate sides. On the advice of Hillbilly :G2'd: I quench each weld with water before moving on to the next one. This helps control the heat.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/hampp2/widebody/PA120143.jpg

6. You are done with the tough stuff. At this point grind down your welds, and your ready for finish body work. This procedure works for basically anything you want to shave. If the gap isn't huge, something like a door molding hole, you can just fill it with weld. Holding a piece of copper behind the weld helps since it acts as a heat sink, and also the weld will not stick to the copper.

[andyrew]

Good write up!

I personally dont like quenching metal unless im heat shrinking, as it can make the metal brittle and warm much faster than letting the metal cool naturally (rapid changes in heat tend to warp metal)

I also like using a magnet because there is less to grind down and you have an extra free hand to steady your wand or sip tea or whatever.



Good work though! Very clean welds for no gas. Your settings seem pretty good on the welder.

[audiFUEGO]

clean [up]

r u doing the paint work also?

[JaVa]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/hampp2/widebody/PA110144.jpg

sorry if this sounds stupid but waht wheels are those? i want.

[lude2euroa4]

sorry if this sounds stupid but waht wheels are those? i want.

17 inch flik justice's

[Starting]

Thanks. The welder only has two heat settings lol. It would be nice to have a better one but that isn't in the cards right now.

Java, like lude said they are 17" flik justices. They are eventually going to become winter wheels when my other winter tires wear out.


Good write up!

I personally dont like quenching metal unless im heat shrinking, as it can make the metal brittle and warm much faster than letting the metal cool naturally (rapid changes in heat tend to warp metal)

I also like using a magnet because there is less to grind down and you have an extra free hand to steady your wand or sip tea or whatever.



Good work though! Very clean welds for no gas. Your settings seem pretty good on the welder.

[andyrew]

What kind of welder is it? I use my Lincoln 145 for most of my work, anything heavy and i'll use a miller 255 fully electric, or the new Lincoln tig we have...

[Starting]

What kind of welder is it? I use my Lincoln 145 for most of my work, anything heavy and i'll use a miller 255 fully electric, or the new Lincoln tig we have...

Just a cheap buzz box.


Heres an update of the progress. Metal work is done on both front fenders. Next part of the project is mounting up the side skirts so I can see what I have to do in the rear. Then the fronts will be leaded and bodyworked. Very happy with my progress I just have to take my time. I tend to rush.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/hampp2/widebody/PA140142.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/hampp2/widebody/PA150149.jpg

[andyrew]

tend to rush, no shit!

Fast work there speedy!

[docurley]

Keep it coming myman.

[a4fann]

soon it will be time for baller wheels and an even bigger turbo, nice work man.

[AudiTurrbo19]

Looks a lot better got any closer pics from the side

[thebikedoctor33]

why two different kinds of wheels

[Starting]

why two different kinds of wheels

I don't care about the 17's, and the tires are dead. Once I'm done I will probably take a little time to refinish them and use them as a winter wheel.

[AudiA4_20T]

Good shit Rich, I wish I knew how to do 1/2 that shit with a welder lol

[Revolution02]

man that looks like it is coming together really well. I wish i had the time, tools, money, and skill to do a project like this.

[lude2euroa4]

hah these are 2 days old, i wonder where you realy at with the project ;)

i have to talk to you, i got more work... i went from none to "to much to handle"

keep up the good work, maybe your next project will be my b6 widebody

[das eighty]

Rich, I applaud you for what you are doing, you never stop! Looks great so far, I def have to swing by one day and check this out. Keep at it man!

[Eurotuned_A4]

damn, you work fast. the stance looks pretty mean so far. the front is the easy part though. The back will get a little tricky. keep up the good progress!

[audiFUEGO]

looks sick... im still dying to kno what the deal is with ur grill? did u cut it out?

[Starting]

No update today. Spent the day playing with tape figuring out the rear lines.

No panel on this car is going to be stock. Even panels that had modifications from the first paint job will be getting more. I gotta keep some secrets though.

audiFUEGO:
Stock but modified with color matched rings and surround. A lot of cutting. I may put some mesh behind it.

[andyrew]

So you are going to do the rears? Sweet, i am really watchin you now... Curious how your going to flow it with the doors...

[SurferForever]

doing rear also?

[AB18]

Considering he spent the day working on the rear lines, i would have to assume hes planing on doing them aswell.

[Starting]

Yes rear will be done as well, along with a bunch of other stuff.


doing rear also?

[TQMB5]

im getting a welder soon. i will be doing this when i buy a house next summer, my parents powerwashed the garage floor beacause i have spilled on it so much, so they said no more big projects. but looks like fun and cant wait to see the finished project

[gotboost?!]

looking very nice !! mean as hell

[TQMB5]

any updates?

[Starting]

any updates?

It is supposed to rain today and tomorrow so I am holding off working on the rears till the weekend. I did finish modding the trunk, just need to do the final bodywork to it.

[A4_2.8tuner]

what are you doing with the trunk?

[20A4Audi1.8t01]

^^ yeah

[Starting]

I gotta keep some secrets lol.

[A4_2.8tuner]

i have a feeling its like a CSL style or something haha...

or you shaved the license plate cutout.

[audiFUEGO]

i wanna see finished pics already!!!

[Teabag]

yea hurrey up oy

[Euro-Tuner]

so is this ever gonna be done...a week for a custom widebody is kinda pushin it[:p]

[Starting]

i have a feeling its like a CSL style or something haha...

or you shaved the license plate cutout.

I am thinking of doing something csl style but think I am going to wait till the end of the project to see. It would either looks killer or a little too boy racer to me.

[A4_2.8tuner]

yeah, i think the CSL look would either look really good, or really bad...i'm kinda torn at how it would look.

[lude2euroa4]

csl? have i been off the forums for that long?

[AudiTurrbo19]

I think they are talking about the styling of the M3 CSL

[Starting]

Finally an update for you guys. I have decided to not mess with the rear doors right now. I'm going to leave that to a future project. I made the "hoop" for the driver side rear today and am going to switch to the other side tomorrow. I have to order a big piece of sheet metal to do the outer lip. That is going to be all hand made, can't modify a piece like I did with the front.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/hampp2/widebody/PA200163.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/hampp2/widebody/PA200161.jpg
spot the new trunk mod?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/hampp2/widebody/PA200159.jpg

[Euro]

Looks like its coming along nicely.

your the man, I could never even think of doing a project like this.

Goodluck!

[Poopie]

i see the trunk! looks good. The rear angle off the body of the widened section doesn't match the front though. Looks like to completely different cars. This is in the last pic.

[Starting]

i see the trunk! looks good. The rear angle off the body of the widened section doesn't match the front though. Looks like to completely different cars. This is in the last pic.

That might be because i haven't trimmed the edge yet. In person the angles are dead on with the front.

[SoFresh]

Looks awesome!

I might have some advice, just throwing it out there. I know everyone has their own way of doing things, but heres what I had in mind. Find some ultra-thin sheet cardboard, we used to use this stuff when building models in my architecture labs. You can buy this stuff at a model store, or an art store. It comes in sheets the size of poster board, but its thicker and flexible.

Take this and cut use it to make the mock-up fender flares. Then trace your template onto your sheet metal, when its flat, cut it out, then bend it into the arch shape.

I think this might save you alot of time with the small welds. Then you can use this cardboard template for the other side as well, just flip it over and trace it out on the sheet metal.

You might already be doing this or something like this, I know everyone out there has their own methods to use, just thought id put that out there, might save some grinding and frustration with welds, and in the end both sides of the car will be the same.

[Starting]

yea ive been using minala folders and my dirty hands lol. It has worked pretty well.

[SoFresh]

more pics!!!

[Starting]

Imagine this:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/hampp2/widebody/PA200161.jpg

but on the other side lol. I should have some new ones up tonight

[offroader1006]

seeing you prime up that new paint job makes me sad.

[TQMB5]

how are you going to fade in the widebody to the front and rear bumper. also i know this came up earlier but did you decide what you want to do for side skirts yet?

[A4Rob]

Good progress Rich. Your about 5 days of work ahead of me. I am just finishing my driver front right now.

[bellofello]

how are you going to fade in the widebody to the front and rear bumper. also i know this came up earlier but did you decide what you want to do for side skirts yet?

said previously, side skirts are gonna be on extened brackets...

[AudiSport12]

lookin good. you, sir, have some big balls.

hurry up and finish it!

[Teabag]

omg i love it

[20A4Audi1.8t01]

Lookin great so far anxious to see the final result!

[TQMB5]

said previously, side skirts are gonna be on extened brackets...

hey said maybe, thats why i asked if he made up his mind... just wondering if hes going to go with more of a dtm style or not

[audiFUEGO]

^^ i hope so! its gonna look soo sexy

[casawhites4]

so damn, looks great...lookin at gettin this done, as we speak...great work!

[Mine's an Outie]

Lookin good! I love seeing people do some diy stuff.

[SoFresh]

more pics!!

[Starting]

No progress due to rain. [headbang][headbang][headbang][headbang] Supposed to rain for the next two days too.

[audiFUEGO]

boooooooooooo

[20A4Audi1.8t01]

get out there in the rain lol!

[Starting]

So rain or not I had to work on the car.

Shes just a little naked right now.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/hampp2/widebody/PA270145.jpg

Hood is off for a little cold ram air modification.

Driver fender is ready to go back on the car, get a coat of lead and will be better then I thought I could do. I'm really glad I have taken my time. I did some patchwork to it where the metal was getting a bit thin from all the grinding. All the little stuff that really doesn't have to be done is really gonna make the final product amazing.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/hampp2/widebody/PA260140.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/hampp2/widebody/PA260139.jpg

Also my turbo should be back mid week.

[JaVa]

looking good

[marcus1701]

wow...you should make a step by step instruction thread. I'd really like to know how you are putting this together and what materials you are using.

[JumboBlack1.8]

I'm so impressed by your work......seriously such an amazing DIY project.....When do you think you'll be completely done, weather permitting?

[audiFUEGO]

yess!! that is gonna look mean

are the rest of the fenders done also?

[Starting]

wow...you should make a step by step instruction thread. I'd really like to know how you are putting this together and what materials you are using.

This thread is basically becoming a walkthrough, but when I am done I will probably sum everything I did up.


I'm so impressed by your work......seriously such an amazing DIY project.....When do you think you'll be completely done, weather permitting?

I have no idea. Hopefully only a couple more weeks. Its starting to get cold here which isnt good for filler and things.


yess!! that is gonna look mean

are the rest of the fenders done also?

The rear is in the same condition as I posted. Didn't work on them due to the rain.

[loustylez]

you should get CF molds of those fender wells before you put them back on.

[Starting]

funny you say that cause I sorta want to do a one peice fiberglass front end. Fenders, hood, bumper all molded to one another. Thats just something in the back of my mind though. Once I get the car finished I may go back to do it just for fun.

[auto_euroticaA4]

i havnt been keeping up with this thread, but after looking at all your progress i applaud you..takes balls to chop up your car like that. where in jersey are you? id love to take a look at the progress in person[wrench]

[SoFresh]

funny you say that cause I sorta want to do a one peice fiberglass front end. Fenders, hood, bumper all molded to one another. Thats just something in the back of my mind though. Once I get the car finished I may go back to do it just for fun.

That would be sweet!! All one fiberglass piece, then put it on hinges that flip it foward to the front to open... then locking pins on the sides and up on the top of the hood near the windsheld to keep it locked down, I think that would be sweeeeet![drive]

[Starting]

auto_euroticaA4: I'm in Union County

Little update from today. I cut the rear widebody and made the template to make the outer piece for it.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/hampp2/widebody/PA280145.jpg
Also did a little hammer and dolly work to my passenger front.

What every car needs. More cold air.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/hampp2/widebody/PA280144.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/hampp2/widebody/PA280143.jpg

[AudiSport12]

thats going to look pretty sick

[audiFUEGO]

ahh what about rain?

[Starting]

Going to make plastic plugs to put in for rain/snow. Also will put some hidden mesh in to keep leaves and things out.

[Euro-Tuner]

thats so dope!

[aI_x.8T]

neat

[docurley]

Wow is all I can say.

[SoFresh]

So whats the plans for the front bumper...?

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/5/web/545000-545999/545553_1_full.jpg

I love your work on the hood, when I was thinking about doing something extreme to my hood, I was going to do reverse louvers like D.Macs car in the pic above, however in the spots you put your scoops, sort of more like the aftermarket hoods for the BMWs. Looks great!!!, cant wait to see some pics with some primer on these panels [up]

[Starting]

I think the bumpers are going to fade at the bottom and not stay the same like donny macs were. I have to wait till they are on the car to really see though. I am thinking of picking up a really nice plastic welder so there might be some extensive modifications done.

[TMorris]

Ridiculous carnage but im so stoked to see the finished product

[Revolution02]

all I can say is wow! I love it.

[seatown88]

i think im gonna love those vents, i cant wait to see the final product!

[Starting]

Hood is almost done. Just have to weld up the windshield washers, and then finish blocking the hood vents. I took the extra time to box the parts of the hood frame underneath that I cut through.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/hampp2/widebody/PA300142.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/hampp2/widebody/PA300140.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/hampp2/widebody/PA300139.jpg

[TMorris]

so sick man

[lude2euroa4]

wait did you shave the windsheild sprayers off the hood like you said you were gonna?

like the facelifts

[audiFUEGO]

wawawiwa

[JaVa]

Moar Pics!

[jrodmk2]

are the edges of the vents raw mtl. if you put 1/8" roundbar/ dowel material it would give a more oem look to the pc.(well as oem as hood vents on a audi could look. lol)

[audisportnut]

holy crap man good job thumb up !

[Starting]

Turbos back, should be back in, in the next few days. Want to get most of the front end body work done first.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/hampp2/PA310144.jpg

[A4Rob]

Nice. Looks clean

[Starting]

Yea it looks like they sand blasted the compressor housing.

[sean1.8t]

what turbo do you run? gt28r?

[Starting]

t28

[woofster]

I must say that this is looking sick! Love the progress. [cool]

[TQMB5]

how much did it cost you if you dont mind me asking, it seems like rebuilding a dbb turbo is like 100 less then getting a new one

[Starting]

It actually ended up being an annoying situation due to price. Not many legit places sell the t28 journal bearing turbo. If they did it was about a grand and I would have to swap compressor and exhaust housings. I found one place that sold the center cartridge for about 500 but they got crap reviews.

I was also looking at upgrading to a ball bearing turbo but that is a little over a grand and the programming isnt exactly right. I think the next step in upgrades will happen on a different motor.

I ended up going to pes for the rebuild due to the 6 month warranty and they made me feel the most comfortable. It was a little less then half the price of a new turbo.

[audiness]

wow!! cant wait to see the next installment!

[audisportnut]

bizump for update [:D]

[Starting]

Heres some pictures from yesterday. The hood vents have been stripped. Primer and guide coat. Also have filler on the windshield washers.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/hampp2/widebody/PB020139.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/hampp2/widebody/PB020144.jpg

[Starting]

Progress is slowing down but it should pick up next week. I am absolutly hating spray primer. I was going to try to make it work, but it just isnt going to cut it for me. I am moving the project to my shed where I can spray some slick sand. I will also be able to control the temperature much better.

Picture of the hood in "primer" which of course is going to be sanded down and redone.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/hampp2/widebody/PB040143.jpg

[lude2euroa4]

ok i gotta see this in person... i was real skeptical bout the outcome but i see that you've made it work.

next phase is to see if it wont be to flashy when on the car and painted. might look unbalanced but we all know the purpose

[TMorris]

Im feeling a Satin or Flat paint scheme for this. Any one else agree?

[audiFUEGO]

wow thats clean... props man thats some good work.

[Lazer Viking]

working in my 8x10 shed this winter too.. its going to be cramped with two bumpers a trunk, and a couple of side skirts

[bender]

You've got some balls. Full paint job then this. Not digging the hood opening but really liking your wide body experiment. You have got my total respect, sir. Looking forward to the updates.

[CaSp3r9]

I can't wait to see the final product... ahhh... mas rapido!

[Starting]

Im feeling a Satin or Flat paint scheme for this. Any one else agree?

It definetly needs a cool color. Not sure what I'll go with yet.


working in my 8x10 shed this winter too.. its going to be cramped with two bumpers a trunk, and a couple of side skirts

Yea thats the same size as my shed. It sucks but it will allow me to use my paint guns and it will take less time to heat. I painted my bumpers and sides in there when I painted my car the first time.

[billybravo]

So whats the plans for the front bumper...?

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/5/web/545000-545999/545553_1_full.jpg

I love your work on the hood, when I was thinking about doing something extreme to my hood, I was going to do reverse louvers like D.Macs car in the pic above, however in the spots you put your scoops, sort of more like the aftermarket hoods for the BMWs. Looks great!!!, cant wait to see some pics with some primer on these panels [up]

Wasn't there a write once somewhere about the car above when the guy made the wide archs?

[onemoremile]

Donny Mak. Those arches are falling apart. The paint is cracking all over them.

[A4Rob]

Donny Mak. Those arches are falling apart. The paint is cracking all over them.

I heard that too, but I guess the new owner is/ has fixed them. [up] for a great car minus the wing. It has a lot of potential to be teh sexxx.

wow, this got me thinking. I need to update my wb thread

[BLUEisFASTER]

wow, havent posted in a while and just read this thread through... took about 1/2 hr.

this is awesome!!

[az][az][az] [up]

[Teabag]

this car is going to be so orgasmic

[audisnapr]

Progress is slowing down but it should pick up next week. I am absolutly hating spray primer. I was going to try to make it work, but it just isnt going to cut it for me. I am moving the project to my shed where I can spray some slick sand. I will also be able to control the temperature much better.

Picture of the hood in "primer" which of course is going to be sanded down and redone.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/hampp2/widebody/PB040143.jpg

question, and I appoligze if this has been addressed earlier in the thread, but how do you deal with water intake on these hood vents during a really bad rain? do you just not drive? I realize not all the water that gets through the vents is gonna hit the filter and it won't be nearly enough to hydrolock the engine, but just curious...

[ILoveT]

He's making plugs for them

[TomRitt18944]

Very nice so far! I may have missed it but what are you planning on doing for sideskirts?

[Euro-Tuner]

wasted and this thead izs the shiznit!!!!!!!!!!Im fukin

[ILoveT]

^ What out, hes fuckin!

[casawhites4]

come on!! update please!!! lol

[Das General]

yeah, give us an update. you even have the s4 cats interested!

[edwardlarsen]

This ended like Prison break did tonight.... just got on this thread and now Im addicted to it! Cant wait for the fished product.... If you want to do an avant... scream this way! I'll pay you...

Good work by the way!!!

[Starting]

Progress has slowed a bit but I am in no rush. I should have another update this weekend. For now I have a wall of fenders set up and all the welding is almost done. When these things are going to be done they are going to be all metal.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/hampp2/widebody/PB110143.jpg

[TQMB5]

looks like you and a buddy just baked out your shed, nioce[cool]

[audisportnut]

bump for an update when you have time :).

[Starting]

Well I got the turbo back in and the car running a few days ago but other then that haven't touched this project. I have some other stuff going on right now so this is the last thing on my mind.

[offroader1006]

you really should finish the all-metal fenders. then make a mold and produce some fiberglass copies.

lighter, look as good, and you could sell em i'm sure.

[AudiXS4X01]

you really should finish the all-metal fenders. then make a mold and produce some fiberglass copies.

lighter, look as good, and you could sell em i'm sure.

NOT fiberglass, ABS Plastic FTW!!!! [up]

[offroader1006]

i don't hit anything with my fenders, so fiberglass would be optimal.

[AudiXS4X01]

wouldnt be too good if u got in an accident though...or if a rock jumped up and hit it...if it were my car, i wouldnt put fiberglass

[Starting]

Making a mold to some fiberglass fenders would be very cool. I wish I had the time right now to finish it. It is at the point of the project where most of the hardwork is done and I just need to put the time in.

Abs fenders would be a cool idea. I know the machine shop where I used to work is low on work. Maybe a set of molds in the future. I wouldn't hold my breathe waiting for this one lol.

[basilv]

remember ,when you make your cut out of the extra metal and its all tacked in place...Do not weld in continius beeeds or you will warp the crap out of the meatal .... do stitch welds on oppisite ends to try to keep it cool as possible...Also before you do your mudwork depending how clean the metal work comes out you should use a product called all metal or dura glass.1 quart will do all 4 openings....

[Starting]

thanks for the advice basilv. I did do stitch welds. The fenders are pretty straight. For the initial coat of filler I have decided to use lead. I will probably use some all metal on the inside of the fender just to make it looks nice and its easy.

[seank]

sorry but why would you make molds of your widebody that you put so much effort into to be different from the crowd and produce it so others could look like your car, that just makes no sense to me. Keep it for yourself man, if others want something like this they should put the effort you put into it and also put their own twist on it for their style.

[onemoremile]

wouldnt be too good if u got in an accident though...or if a rock jumped up and hit it...if it were my car, i wouldnt put fiberglass

Yeah, because a Corvette's body work just explodes when driven in the real world. [:D]

[A4Rob]

sorry but why would you make molds of your widebody that you put so much effort into to be different from the crowd and produce it so others could look like your car, that just makes no sense to me. Keep it for yourself man, if others want something like this they should put the effort you put into it and also put their own twist on it for their style.

Because he would make money

[seank]

I really doubt that, considering the extra time and materials needed and how many people would actually buy one compared to just saying they will buy one, leaves relatively few actual purchasers. I think the profit margin does not equate to being a worthwhile production.

[offroader1006]

Because he would make money

exactly.

IF it were me with all this work into something i would do it for a few reasons.

1. If i were to get hit after i finished all this custom work, a duplicate set of fenders would be very convenient.
2. With all the man hours in the project, making a few hundred bucks off of it wouldnt be half bad.
3. If i wanted a lightweight option to the all steel/lead filled fenders.

who cares if there are 4 other people with your fenders? they still arent anywhere near his car with a set of fenders.

[audispeed]

wouldnt be too good if u got in an accident though...or if a rock jumped up and hit it...if it were my car, i wouldnt put fiberglass



Yeah, because steel fenders just pop right back after an accident. Fiberglass isnt bad if done right, it can actually be pretty damn good. The problem is people buy the $199 fiberglass body kits on ebay and then get upset when they dont fit right or fall apart when they hit something with it. For the money you pay are you suprised? Fiberglass, if done right, can make body parts that are pretty damn durable. My front bumper is fiberglass ... from a reputable company. I was parallel parked on the street one day and some car hit me so hard that they knocked the bumper right off of the bumper support [down]. Other than the nice beige colored paint my bumper now sports (and will continue to sport until it is resprayed), my bumper is fine. Lesson, dont hate on fiberglass because 80% of the bandwagon here does.

Sorry for getting off topic. Nice work starting. Cant wait to see it when it is done. Want to paint a front and rear bumper? Jk ... mostly.

[audisnapr]

exactly.

IF it were me with all this work into something i would do it for a few reasons.

1. If i were to get hit after i finished all this custom work, a duplicate set of fenders would be very convenient.

who cares if there are 4 other people with your fenders? they still arent anywhere near his car with a set of fenders.


I like no. 1 above. Our cars get so deep into mods and often insurance doesn't give a crap so having a duplicate copy even if just for yourself isn't a horrible idea.

I know if I could have duplicated a few of my projects for others to have I sure would have. I could care less about ppl having similar mods as I do. Shit, 90% of the mods on my car every AZ'r either has or is about to get [:)]

This is not to say he should duplicate for others. Duplicating something of that size in fiberglass is no easy task. By the time he's done fab'ing up the original rear fenders and sideskirts he'll probably never want to hear the word "widebody" again.

Besides, who wants to deal with the AZ'r mobb when the fender doesn't "fit perfectly" or just isn't as strong as they though it would be, or the gel coat cracks over time, etc. [;)]

[Starting]

Updates will not be coming for awhile. Unfortunately the project is stalled out right now but hopefully if some stuff works out it will be started again in about 6 months with even more steam and mods planned.

All the points you guys have said are valid. Here is my take on this fiberglass situation.

I would love to make molds of everything so it gives me the option of fiberglass panels. This would allow me to easily replace a panel and also take my car to another step.

Realistically these panels would not sell well. Something like a4 rob is doing would be much more suited. While his will also require modifications to bumpers mine will need almost totally reworked bumpers.

I would am thinking in the far future that it might be cool to have a complete front clip done in fiberglass. This would allow me to mold any lines I want to and depending how i do it probably save a bunch of weight.

[20A4Audi1.8t01]

nooo!

[A4Rob]

Crap dude! Keep it coming. I ran into a huge wall also, but I think I found a way to work around it. Update on my thread soon

[B5Burn]

Hope all is well man, take care of business, we'll see you for the next round!

[Starting]

No it is nothing bad. It could potentially be something really good. I just have to wait and see.

[audiness]

so how are you not going to drive your car for that long?!

[Teabag]

update time

[Starting]

Sorry guys no update coming for at least 6 months maybe a year. Things have really worked out for me and I just won't be around to work on the car. Everything that is happening now will only help this and future projects though.

[Siena]

Looking really good, can't wait to see the lot in paint.

[Starting]

Uh-oh
Finally an update.
Last week I started the car up for the first time in about 8 months.

Finally got off my butt and am starting to get this car back in working order. First thing I am doing is just putting the car back together and then I will break it up into small projects until it is the way i want it. At least this way I can enjoy the car a little bit.

Today i put some primer in spots that needed it and put the front fenders, rear bumper, taillights, and trunk lock back on. Tomorrow the front bumper and lights should go back on. One day this week it will head down to the mechanic to get the ac drained and then I will pull that. Braille Auto B14115 should be ordered today or tomorrow and will be mounted in the trunk. Should save some weight there.

http://i436.photobucket.com/albums/qq82/rhampp/0913081547.jpg
http://i436.photobucket.com/albums/qq82/rhampp/0913081609.jpg

And all 3 of the toys together.
http://i436.photobucket.com/albums/qq82/rhampp/0913081550.jpg

[BONFIRE074]

not really diggin the hood, but to each his own, good craftsmanship though

[Lazer Viking]

its about time.. cant wait [up]

[willowtreexx]

wow i just saw what you did and its amazing!

oh and all three of your toys are awesome. thats my favorite bike and i want that jeep! haha

[ExpLlclT]

i like the hood because i know your paint will make the whole thing stealthy and pop out at the same time what wheels, sorry if you posted pics n shit already i have a really slow connection right now

[Starting]

wheels are still going to be my ch's. I just have to get some huge spacers. Update of the progress from today. Hopefully I can put the battery in maybe Thursday and take it to the mechanic.

http://i436.photobucket.com/albums/qq82/rhampp/0914081316.jpg

[A4Rob]

My spacers will be for sale soon. Interested?

[BONFIRE074]

hood from that pic doesnt look bad at all [up]

[fred2ka4]

My spacers will be for sale soon. Interested?

Why don't you need the spacers anymore??? ........... [;)] [>_<]

[fred2ka4]

Starting, what do you plan on doing to get the front and rear bumpers to line up with the fenders? Looks good so far and you are going to need some big spacers indeed. Is the bumper just temporarily mounted because the gaps look way off on the head lights?

[TQMB5]

get a deka battery. i have had one with for a year and have had zero problems. it is the same battery as the braille just relabelled

[Starting]

My spacers will be for sale soon. Interested?

Maybe. PM me on the specs.

Starting, what do you plan on doing to get the front and rear bumpers to line up with the fenders? Looks good so far and you are going to need some big spacers indeed. Is the bumper just temporarily mounted because the gaps look way off on the head lights?

Nothing is actually mounted right now lol. Everything has like one bolt holding it on. All it needs to do is get about a block to the mechanic to get the ac drained, then once it gets back the ac compressor and all that good stuff is getting pulled so I have to take everything off anyway to make it easier.

[flashburn]

Glad to see you are back on the horse!

[Starting]

I think something went missing.

http://i436.photobucket.com/albums/qq82/rhampp/1001081702.jpg

anyone want the ac components? i have no use for them.