Does my car suck that bad?!?! Giac X problem?

[B7AudiA4]

After the whole headache about my car... Damn, I'm really disapointed.
I just recently got chipped! (this past saturday)
I got the Giac X chip. For the first 2 days it ran really nice, it pulled pretty hard and I was lost more traction then I did before. After the 2 days, my car started feeling stock. I thought maybe it's just me, but even my girlfriend says it feels stock now. And she's driven it.
Now I'm worried because I brought the car to the dealership, and they said the DV is FINE so I shouldn't be loosing boost. I recently had my PCV valve changed by the dealership under warrenty.

NOW the problem that's making me think: After those 2 days of having fun with the chip, I thought it was normal because I was chipped, but everytime I gun it from 1-2 til the end of 2nd or even 3rd, right after I start driving normal and I can smell something burning.[headbang] I don't know what's going on, anybody else having this issue? It just feels like my car's ECU just reprogramed itself to stock mode or something. And I know that can't happen. Anybody else?

WARNING: STUPID CONTENT!!!
I raced my friend's RSX-S when I was stock, and he is completely stock and I would always keep up with him, we would always be neck and neck. He would pull on 3rd though. (At the track)
Now, when I race him when I'm chipped (just to see how much faster it's suppose to be) It's the same results as the chip. So is something wrong?

[Tiesto]

Dude stop posting threads, your fucked up car is making all A4s look bad...

Not saying it's your fault but you need to face the fact that you got a lemon.

[B7AudiA4]

Okay, thank you then dick. I'm asking for help, not STUPID comments.

[matttl16]

i have the GIAC-X chip as well and i have oil all over the place in the engine bay... [=(] the stealership said i need a new oil seperator or something like that... the round black thing under the engine cover... i also just had the head gasget replaced... so i have no clue

[B7AudiA4]

Really? With no cel?

[Tiesto]

Okay, thank you then dick. I'm asking for help, not STUPID comments.

Oh so you're alloud to post stupid threads but I can't post "stupid" replies? Little hypocrite. [rolleyes]

[B7AudiA4]

I'm having trouble with my car. Enough said. This is a car related issue with my vehicle. enough toying around smart ass.
Now on with my issue.

[INTEGRATION]

Hmm this is a weird problem, dunno how to diagnose something like this. I'd say it's something that's going on in conjunction with all the other problems that you've been having with your car, sorry man.
Damn, and I was gonna go with GIAC-X too.

[B7AudiA4]

I really don't think it's the chip's fault. I think something is faulty/defective with the car that's not showing up on the log.

What would a blown coilpack do?

[matttl16]

i always have a check engine light on b/c of my test pipe

[acidrome]

ive had GIAC-X for a while now and have had nuttin but a great ride!!!! :). make sure ur ecu is set to boost. the car doesnt all of a sudden go back to stock in 2 days...just get it vag checked

[Quattro]

freaking kev, your car messing up hhahaha

ill take your chip if you dont want it =D

[INTEGRATION]

I really don't think it's the chip's fault. I think something is faulty/defective with the car that's not showing up on the log.

What would a blown coilpack do?

Generally a blown coilpack would mean your car won't even be able to start or move on its own. But I could be wrong...

[B7AudiA4]

ive had GIAC-X for a while now and have had nuttin but a great ride!!!! :). make sure ur ecu is set to boost. the car doesnt all of a sudden go back to stock in 2 days...just get it vag checked
I brought it to the dealer, they said NOTHING was wrong with it and everything is boosting fine.
I don't think i'm happy with the chip, I believe Giac offers a 30 day money back guarantee. I'll probably go back to stock.
Most likely it's not a coilpack.

I don't know what the heck is wrong with my car. I really hate and regret this car.[down]

[kdawgg]

for some reason a week after i got chipped i noticed in first and second gear my car kinda felt stock. but in 3rd gear and up i notice it still pulls a lot harder than stock. i figured it was me just getting used to the power...?

[kdawgg]

i have APR btw

[B7AudiA4]

for some reason a week after i got chipped i noticed in first and second gear my car kinda felt stock. but in 3rd gear and up i notice it still pulls a lot harder than stock. i figured it was me just getting used to the power...?
Yeah, I was thinking I got used to the power, but the thing is... I raced the same car (RSX-S) and he is still stock and the results are the same.
We stay head to head and 3rd gear he pulls.[rolleyes]

[B7AudiA4]

freaking kev, your car messing up hhahaha

ill take your chip if you dont want it =D
Tell me about it. Guess what, I pulled up all the papers with the problems I have. 6 Visits
7/31/07 - New driver side window motor replaced
8/2/07 - New Fuel Filter
8/20/07 - Ran lean at idle, said the filter wasn't installed properly, reinstalled it, and the CEL cleared itself.
8/27/07 - Fuel Pressure sensor, EVAP Purge Valve.
9/11/07 - Driver side Window regulator assembly installed, passenger window motor replaced, replaced fuel pump, replaced LDP Pump assembly (which made my gas tank read 3/4 full when I filled up and wouldn't take anymore gas. The fuel pump rod that connects to the top and bottom were bent and kinked.

Enough problems? Is there anyway to get a lawyer for this?
under 28k miles!

[quattshot]

Tell me about it. Guess what, I pulled up all the papers with the problems I have. 6 Visits
7/31/07 - New driver side window motor replaced
8/2/07 - New Fuel Filter
8/20/07 - Ran lean at idle, said the filter wasn't installed properly, reinstalled it, and the CEL cleared itself.
8/27/07 - Fuel Pressure sensor, EVAP Purge Valve.
9/11/07 - Driver side Window regulator assembly installed, passenger window motor replaced, replaced fuel pump, replaced LDP Pump assembly (which made my gas tank read 3/4 full when I filled up and wouldn't take anymore gas. The fuel pump rod that connects to the top and bottom were bent and kinked.

Enough problems? Is there anyway to get a lawyer for this?
under 28k miles!

LOL...The "Warning Stupid Content" section in your original post is hilarious. I actually thought it was someone else's dumb quote that you were making a joke out of but I just realized it was yours!.[eek]...sorry.

Anyways, I know for a fact that your ECU REflash is not the problem. Since you do have a car that has and still is experiencing difficulties, you are only going to add fuel to the fire in my opinion. Though you have fixed most of the issues, it still sounds like your car is an unfortunate lemon on some sort.
I have GIAC X on 20,000 miles and have zero issues.
If alot of people were having issues with the GIAC flash, it would be SMEARED all over these Audi Enthusiast Sites.

***Remember, if you BUILD a house on a weak foundation, you will have major problems.

[SilverB7FL]

I don't know about the burning smell you are experiencing but my car actually did reprogram itself back to stock a few weeks after I got chipped, I have APR and I had the stock program in slot 1 and 93 in slot 2. Both slots were still there but they were both stock. I don't know why my car did it but I took it back to where I bought the program at and had it reflashed and haven't had a problem since. Maybe you should take yours to where you had it done and ask them. Hope everything works out for you!

[surfsidedetail]

I'm CVT and have the GIAC flash with about 3300 miles on the car and no problems since I was chipped since 1700 miles.

[Scott Evil]

Are you sure you didn't get the trial programming, that "expires" after so many hours of use?

[TJHUB]

This thread is pretty funny overall...[rolleyes]

It sounds like your car has had a few small problems, but looks like you're more of a victim of a poor dealership service department that is replacing parts (some incorrectly apparently) that is not solving the ultimate problem. Trust me, I've been down this road many times. I've had two occasions where I had to tell my service guys what I felt could be the problem when they weren't getting it done. It happens. I can also assure you that there are a LOT of inadequate service technicians out there.

Since you've had the PCV valve fixed/upgraded and your dealer says the DV is good, I'd look into the ECU upgrade. If it's not too much trouble, just go back to the tuner and ask them to reflash the car for you as you suspect the chip tuning is possibly back to stock. It is possible as Scott Evil has stated that you possibly got the temporary flash. The tuner that supplied my APR were complete morons that knew nothing about B7's and it took them 3 flashes and 2.5 hours to get the job done for me. I'll tell you that I left there thinking I'll never go back and that my car was f'd up. [mad]

Your issue is very strange and the only thing I can think of that would make the car run fine but feel stock is that it's quite possibly back to stock. Get the car reflashed. If nothing else, you'll be able to take that off the list of possibilities and move on to other potential issues.

Be calm, one thing at time dude...[up]

P.S. A blown coil pack will be in your face obvious. The car will start and run, but at idle it will be VERY rough and at 2000+ rpm it will start to smooth out some. Power loss would be severe. You will have a solid CEL or possibly a flashing CEL. Regardless, you'd know if you bad coil pack.

[Ken@German]

You can always try APR and call it a day!

[GordoN]

i put the chip in my car yesterday the GIAC

they said the car sometimes needs to be reflashed if you feel like its back to stock

just take it in and get it reflashed

[TJHUB]

i put the chip in my car yesterday the GIAC

they said the car sometimes needs to be reflashed if you feel like its back to stock

just take it in and get it reflashed

Really? Who told you this? Which tuner?

[TJHUB]

You can always try APR and call it a day!

Yeah! APR FTW!! [up]

[:p][:p]

[GordoN]

Really? Who told you this? Which tuner?

pfaff tuning

[James@Creative]

Do a log block 115, and email it to me.

[email protected]

[B7AudiA4]

The dealership said it was boosting at Giac spec. 20ish PSI?
That's what they logged yesterday, but i'm not really buying it.

My dealership is awesome, they do real good job and have done everything to serve me right. I don't think it's their work. I just think it's one thing failing at a time.
I'll contact my Giac guy again. He's apparently showing up at my dealership as well.

[teknikk7]

could it possibly be bad or low octane fuel? I know some shady gas stations who say it's 91 but in reality it's prolly 87 mixed with 91. Some gas stations due this. Due you always go to reputable gas stations?

[James@Creative]

The dealership said it was boosting at Giac spec. 20ish PSI?
That's what they logged yesterday, but i'm not really buying it.

My dealership is awesome, they do real good job and have done everything to serve me right. I don't think it's their work. I just think it's one thing failing at a time.
I'll contact my Giac guy again. He's apparently showing up at my dealership as well.

Good to hear, are you dealing with Jeff Moss?

If not you should be... pm me if you need his info.

[EuroA4]

Do you have a VAG tool? If not, that should be your first step in helping to diagnose what's going on. Be patient...modifying cars is not always a walk in the park.

[Allwheel Driver]

How's the CVT trans holding up under the high boost?

My guess is with all this racing, your CVT is slipping. It's basically a large belt that connects 2 variable gears. It's reliability is questionable on the B6s, and I can only imagine with chipped boost, it's not holding up very well.

Don't bother with a lawyer, to qualify for lemon laws, it has to be a repeated problem that the dealer can't fix not a few different problems that they did fix.

[B7AudiA4]

Good to hear, are you dealing with Jeff Moss?

If not you should be... pm me if you need his info.
Yes I am. Exactly the person that I went to for this job. Really good guy[up]
I trust Penske and they brought me to them. Or else I swore I had my mind set on APR, but for now, i'm going back to Jeff Moss today and see what's the problem. If I'm still not happy, he said he would have no problem refunding my money.

[TJHUB]

Yes I am. Exactly the person that I went to for this job. Really good guy[up]
I trust Penske and they brought me to them. Or else I swore I had my mind set on APR, but for now, i'm going back to Jeff Moss today and see what's the problem. If I'm still not happy, he said he would have no problem refunding my money.

Well at least you're working with good people. I'm certain one of them will figure this out. Just make sure you let us know what happens. Always good to learn something new!

[speedydragon]

Lemon Law

[back2boost]

APR!!!! Dude I have had APR on two different cars... my MKIV GTI 1.8T and now on my 2.0T B7. I don't know why anyone uses any other chip.

[michpan]

The smell you're getting is probably from the CVT slipping, it can't hold the torque. You should check this out. Maybe that's what you're experiencing as power loss.

Btw, when a coil pack is blown, the car works with 3 cylinders only so you lose lots and lots of power (it should be slower than stock mode!!). The engine gets noisy and rough..


Michael

[jackk]

replaced LDP Pump assembly (which made my gas tank read 3/4 full when I filled up and wouldn't take anymore gas. The fuel pump rod that connects to the top and bottom were bent and kinked.


That sounds exactly like the problem (http://audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=161469) I'm having

[acidrome]

first off let me say. WHERE THE FUCK ARE U GUYS BUYING UR RIDES AT? I HAVE NEVER HEARD OF THESE MANY PROBLEMS B4. O ya this is another comp. over the battle of the chips. I have 25,xxx miles plus and have been chipped with GIAC-X for almost 10,xxx miles and have only suffered a dv issue. It totally sucks to hear about ur problems man, but did the tuner shop tell you that it takes a couple of days for the ecu to get used to everything. I'm not too far from you, I live in the 909 and go to Penske to get my service since its right over the hill. If u dont mind if i ask what tuner shop u went to? u should really try VF engineering they do great work, I have pretty much all the same work as you and like i said couldnt be any happier. Again sorry to hear about ur problems dude and i wish u the best.

[bhvrdr]

The dealership said it was boosting at Giac spec. 20ish PSI?
That's what they logged yesterday, but i'm not really buying it.

My dealership is awesome, they do real good job and have done everything to serve me right. I don't think it's their work. I just think it's one thing failing at a time.
I'll contact my Giac guy again. He's apparently showing up at my dealership as well.

Buy a vag-com or have Jeff Moss vag your car NOT the dealership. I dont know of any dealerships that are datalogging anymore and I really wouldnt doubt they told you that just to shut you up. Let some one like Jeff do it or really it would pay to get a vag com for yourself the way your car has been acting.

cheers! Mike

[A4TuNeD]

i have the GIAC-X chip as well and i have oil all over the place in the engine bay... [=(] the stealership said i need a new oil seperator or something like that... the round black thing under the engine cover... i also just had the head gasget replaced... so i have no clue

hey man are you sure its oil? I have GIAC-X and one time wen i tried to pull hard passing somebody i felt something weird in the shifting and a burning smell to it was the tranny line....tranny fluid everywhere....the burning smell may be coming from tranny fluid on the cat....at least thats wat it was for me.

[Tgr_Clw]

Jeez. I'm glad I drive a B6.

[A4TuNeD]

Jeez. I'm glad I drive a B6.

I have always wanted to ask you where the hell you got stage 3 mtm.....the only NA dealer i know of mtm products is JHM here in Sarasota, FL...am I miss informed lol, i must be?

[RealSanaii]

Get it reflashed.

I had the same problem with APR. I had 2 choices, 93 and Stock, and both felt the same. After I got the ECU recall done, I had the APR program back again and since then I have no problem.
ECU has a mind of it's own.

[TJHUB]

hey man are you sure its oil? I have GIAC-X and one time wen i tried to pull hard passing somebody i felt something weird in the shifting and a burning smell to it was the tranny line....tranny fluid everywhere....the burning smell may be coming from tranny fluid on the cat....at least thats wat it was for me.

This is possibly the best idea I've seen thus far. I've also seen posts of others blowing these lines. I'd at least check this out.



Jeez. I'm glad I drive a B6.

[rolleyes]

[B7AudiA4]

I just told Jeff to refund my money and went back to stock. And as of right now. It feels exactly how I entered the dealership. So right now it's stock and yeah. It's exactly what I felt about the car.

Jeff was doing some logging and it was boosting at Giac-X level. 20PSI.
Hmm So hopefully after this, no more major problems will be caused.

Sorry for bothering you guys, but I guess the chip caused me more problems and my car doesn't like the chip. Well it just doesn't like to be driven.

[INTEGRATION]

I'm starting to think CVT is evil too. But it seems like a few people on here that went software+cvt run into a lot of problems.

[A4TuNeD]

CVT with engine mods does run the torque pretty high but besides that blown tranny line has been the only problem for the last 10k or so. (since i got chipped)