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Rico750
07-11-2007, 04:48 PM
ok.. cuZ of money (it s always money) i decided to buy loweing springs i stead of the coils for now. I decided to go with the springs and new shocks for now.. car has a bunch of miles allready and dont want to put in to much any more... now this is the thing...

I dont know if my car came with a sport suspension (30 mm) or not..€ it s hard to tell how low i can go now.... anyway.. im afraid that the 2" neuspeed lowering that i bought is going to rub.. anyone here an idea if 2" lowering will rub the the tires? they are 225 40 18's

please someone with experiene help me here, because if they rub i might have to change my order as long as it is possible.. (would they sell 2" if it would rub anyway?) cant sleep now.. restless .. [eek]

thanks a lot!

Rico

AudiDude007
07-11-2007, 04:57 PM
you'll probably have to roll your fenders which really isn't a big deal. well worth it

Rico750
07-11-2007, 05:20 PM
you'll probably have to roll your fenders which really isn't a big deal. well worth it

roll fenders? wtf ? is that going to be hard? lots of work? you sure?

AudiDude007
07-11-2007, 05:47 PM
depending on how low your shock/spring takes you the metal lip that extends underneath the wheel well ( about 1/2 inch) will rub. in order to avoid that you get that lip rolled up to give you more clearance.

options for rolling:

1. baseball bat /heat gun method ( not reccomended)

2. a fender roller ( can be rented from PUREMS.COM)

3. or have an autobody shop do it for you.

i would lower the car first and see, than decide

Rico750
07-11-2007, 05:50 PM
depending on how low your shock/spring takes you the metal lip that extends underneath the wheel well ( about 1/2 inch) will rub. in order to avoid that you get that lip rolled up to give you more clearance.

options for rolling:

1. baseball bat /heat gun method ( not reccomended)

2. a fender roller ( can be rented from PUREMS.COM)

3. or have an autobody shop do it for you.

i would lower the car first and see, than decide

ok cool.. would it be driveable then to get at least home a couple of miles? and will this actually change the appearance of teh car or is it just something on the onside of the fender that will change? or will t actually push the fender out?

AudiDude007
07-11-2007, 06:21 PM
no it would be driveable to get home, just something you don't want to drive around with ( if it rubs) cause it will chew your tires up. it won't change the appearance , it's just inside the wheel well. just reach under the wheel well along the fender lip to see exacxtly what i mean( that piece just gets folded back) if you choose to DIY make sure you use a heat gun to avoid cracking your paint.

Rico750
07-11-2007, 06:27 PM
no it would be driveable to get home, just something you don't want to drive around with ( if it rubs) cause it will chew your tires up. it won't change the appearance , it's just inside the wheel well. just reach under the wheel well along the fender lip to see exacxtly what i mean( that piece just gets folded back) if you choose to DIY make sure you use a heat gun to avoid cracking your paint.

ok cool.. well i contacted the seller of my springs.. i hope it s not to late yet to get m changed... it seems that for my car the other lowering set they have is the 1.2" but im not sure if thats wurth all the hassle.. for the 1.2" we ll see what the seller says.. thanks a bunch! i went outside and looked at the inside of the fender..i saw what you mean.. i guess should be to hard to bend that yeah..

thanks a bunch!

Rico @ releaved mode

Nebone
07-11-2007, 06:29 PM
Its not going to rub. 2" is the drop from non-sport suspension. Neuspeed springs, if we are referring to the race ones will give u about 25"+ fender to ground clearance which is not that low but a very good looking appearance and great handling.

You wont have to roll fenders with those tires neither.

Rico750
07-11-2007, 09:59 PM
Its not going to rub. 2" is the drop from non-sport suspension. Neuspeed springs, if we are referring to the race ones will give u about 25"+ fender to ground clearance which is not that low but a very good looking appearance and great handling.

You wont have to roll fenders with those tires neither.

wow good news! thx a bunch

docurley
07-12-2007, 12:38 AM
Agreed 225 tyres will not rub providing you have the correct offset rims.

projectdarka4
07-12-2007, 11:52 AM
i ahve a question dealing with kind of the same thing... im putting on H&R race springs tonight/ tomorrow... can i get a 245/40r18 tire on the back with 225/40r18 on the front.. i have a 1.8tQ..

victorvu
07-12-2007, 12:07 PM
No Way Should Be Running That On A Quattro Should Run Same Size All Around. 245 Will For Sure Rub In The Rear.

thebikedoctor33
07-12-2007, 12:20 PM
stupid question... can someone explain those numbers refering to the tire sizes. i cant figure then out... ex: 225 40 18?

HIERLEVELZ
07-12-2007, 12:58 PM
225mm wide

40mm height of sidewall (aka profile)

18" diameter of rim

http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/infoSidewall.dos

onemoremile
07-12-2007, 12:59 PM
If we use 225/40-18 as an example it breaks down like this:

225 millimeters section (tread) width. This is the width of the tire.
40 is the aspect ratio which gives you the sidewall height as a percentage of section width. 225 x .4 = 90 mm sidewall height.
18 is the wheel diameter. This is to the bead surface (where the tire contacts the barrel portion of the wheel) not the overall diameter including the beads/lips.

If 225/45-17 is stock size then 225/40-18 will be a very close fit. Dropping the sidewall height that little bit makes up for the larger wheel diameter. 225/35-19, 225/30-20, and 225/20-22 are all very close in overall diameter.

The same approach holds true for width. 225/45-17 and 245/40-17 are very close in overall diameter. 225/40-18 and 245/35-18 are also very close.

docurley
07-12-2007, 01:44 PM
But also if you go real wide like my car but still on 18" rims I had to drop a profile to keep the same diameter so my car is running on 255x35x18 and I would think 245 would also have to drop down to 35 profile but don’t quote me on that.

Better add for those who don't know I have RS4 arches so I'm wider than stock.

projectdarka4
07-12-2007, 04:40 PM
that kinda sucks... i want a fat tire, but i dont wanna rub after i do these springs... right now i have the 225 45 17s.. the rims i have are 17x7.5... if i get 225 40 18 with 18x8 or 8.5 rims... will the tires look wider?

onemoremile
07-12-2007, 05:23 PM
My next set of tires will probably be 245/40-17. I've run 235/40-17 Toyo RA-1 without rubbing.

Rico750
07-12-2007, 05:29 PM
My next set of tires will probably be 245/40-17. I've run 235/40-17 Toyo RA-1 without rubbing.

you said no rubbing.. but how low did you go?

onemoremile
07-12-2007, 05:35 PM
you said no rubbing.. but how low did you go?

I lost the numbers but I'd bet it was under 25" fender lip to ground. It was too low for daily driving and too low to handle well.

235/40-17 Toyo RA-1 track tires. It is lower than it looks since there is no tread on the tires.
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b397/onemoremile/trackattack.jpg


235/45-17 Michelin Pilot Sports. The car on the right is an S4 Avant on stock suspension.
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b397/onemoremile/IMG_2093.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b397/onemoremile/IMG_2089.jpg

Rico750
07-12-2007, 05:50 PM
thx for the pics! nice that german plate and the rs4 grill !! :) it doesnt look to low at all if you ask me..are you using coils? or are you on a sport suspension? btw.. how did you get that audi logo on your head rests?if that a cover? or do they come that way?