PDA

View Full Version : OMG can you believe this ???!!



Rico750
06-05-2007, 03:43 PM
i called the dealership to ask m about a waterpump and timing belt for my car.
the guy at the parts department said: " well i dont want to scare you but:"

YOU HAVE TO CHANGE THIS AND THIS AND THIS AND THIS..
AND ALL TOGETTER IT IS LIKE 2500 $

900 for the belt and the pump.. are they crazy??? 1200 for the labor and some other nonsense fees

omg .. i just called in for a timing belt and water pump (part numbers) unbelievable how these people are.. they just want your money .grrr
i will never ever go there! rather find a good [wrench] mechanic which we have here in town.. very pro! he asks 300 if i bring him the parts.. i think im gonna do that.

blkNJ a4
06-05-2007, 03:48 PM
$1200 for labor.

We just replaced a water pump on a jetta in my auto school. Cost of labor. $0. It wasnt that hard either. Definalty not a $1200 job if it was based on difficulty.

onemoremile
06-05-2007, 03:50 PM
I'd ask for a written quote detailing parts and labor. Then send it to Audi of America as proof of attempted robbery.

Obsessed
06-05-2007, 03:50 PM
First, make sure that changing all of that stuff is necessary. Second, 1200 worth of labor is equal to more than 13 hours of work. That just doesn't seem right. DO they have to pull the engine?

Obsessed
06-05-2007, 03:51 PM
I'd ask for a written quote detailing parts and labor. Then send it to Audi of America as proof of attempted robbery.

Great idea. +100000000000

A4Rob
06-05-2007, 03:54 PM
DO they have to pull the engine?
LOL no[:p]

Rico750
06-05-2007, 03:58 PM
. DO they have to pull the engine?

no thats the thing.. man it makes me cus so bad.. but i wont :) but i want too..
grrr #$%@##$@%..@$#%@$#

Ewok_Fetus
06-05-2007, 04:01 PM
If you don't mind taking a two day drive, I could help you out! I am down with doing timing belts for $100 and you supply parts... Honestly, if anyone is EVER comming through Oklahoma and needs help, don't hesitate! Or even if you live close to Oklahoma...

aytheory
06-05-2007, 04:25 PM
bwahhahah 2500 - dollar in labor & parts - I would be like - how about I'll do your timing belt or the next car that comes in for 2000 - and in return I'll give you 300 dollars for renting your shop. After parts and stuff and renting the shop - still get paid like 1500 - for a tb job.

If i made 1500 a day - i don't know what i would do but i think it will involved a lot of drugs and hookers.

I wish that is a department - that you can make a claim about inflated prices like this - or just look them in the eye and say "are you serious" and try not to laugh

SirDaft1
06-05-2007, 07:00 PM
does a tub of KY and anal ease come with that quote?

onemoremile
06-05-2007, 07:32 PM
Maybe the shop owner has a serious habit and needs to pay down a loan shark. I gotta have the money by Friday - triple the prices on everything!

bOOOOstedAudi
06-05-2007, 07:35 PM
i can get the parts cheaper for you

Militant-Grunt
06-05-2007, 08:17 PM
Zumbach Audi wanted 2800 for a clutch change. These guys are thieves, I will never ever take my car to the dealer again for anything.

Funnier yet, Audi tranny mount = 100 dollars, VW tranny mount = 52 dollars, difference between the two? NONE OTHER THAN THE PRICE.

mikeyvuitton
06-05-2007, 08:20 PM
same with the mirror i wanted from audi a passeneger mirror would cost me over 700.

Kyle H
06-05-2007, 10:24 PM
I did my timing belt/water pump for $280.... ECS kit and DIY ftw.

aytheory
06-05-2007, 11:07 PM
All this stuff reminds me I don't even want to deal with dealerships - talking to them just get me mad, angry, and constipated.

IKE20VA4
06-05-2007, 11:26 PM
blawhh....^ or just dealing with car shops in general...it seems like the damage is always worse than you ever expect...until you learn to expect worse than you expect.

mobbin6
06-05-2007, 11:44 PM
I got quoted 1800 just for the water pump haha But I'm taking it to a local place called VW specialties who quoted me 1000 for timing belt and water pump! Look around at your local indy shops

dmaize
06-06-2007, 12:10 AM
learn to work on a car. i did mine with the ecs kit. for $260 and 3 hours. i had never done one before but with a good DIY.

its super easy. and good to know how to work on your car if you going to drive a high maintinance

bloodstar57
06-06-2007, 05:48 AM
Zumbach Audi wanted 2800 for a clutch change. These guys are thieves, I will never ever take my car to the dealer again for anything.

Funnier yet, Audi tranny mount = 100 dollars, VW tranny mount = 52 dollars, difference between the two? NONE OTHER THAN THE PRICE.

Yep same here....I told them hell no. Oh and i have the VW tranny mount now too.

onemoremile
06-06-2007, 07:44 AM
Get that written quote. Once you have it you can do all sorts of fun things.

- Find out what all the charges are and post it up here so we can tear into it.
- Send a copy to AOA with a note saying you expect to be updated on their review/audit of this service department. File a formal complaint. When you want someone's attention for real then get in his boss's face. His boss will tear him up just because he got confronted with his problem.
- Get written quotes for the same work from good independent shops. Check that their certifications are on the quote. Some of these shops are VAG and SAE certified. Add these quotes to the formal complaint as evidence that ethical business practices do exist locally.
- After any of these shops give you a quote you can show them a copy of the dealership's quote. Trust me, they'll love it. They might even give you a discount when they change your timing belt.

FWIW, My local Audi, Subaru, Porsche dealership- Delta Imports, installed the SouthBend clutch in my car for under $500. They installed upgraded mounts while in there. Labor to install the full ECS timing belt kit with snub mount and an electric fan kit was 500-600. When the S4 smoked a stock turbo the dealership installed the RS4 turbos, piping, intercoolers, timing belt kit, engine and tranny mounts, rs4 clutch, and wiped everything down while it was apart. Labor was still only about 3 grand.

darth tater
06-06-2007, 08:14 AM
Funnier yet, Audi tranny mount = 100 dollars, VW tranny mount = 52 dollars, difference between the two? NONE OTHER THAN THE PRICE.

If part numbers are the same then they are the same price.. The system can't distinguish between audi or vw only part number.

If the part numbers are different then the price could be different but then it also means its a different part.. they don't change the number for nothing.

darth tater
06-06-2007, 08:23 AM
$1200 for labor.

We just replaced a water pump on a jetta in my auto school. Cost of labor. $0. It wasnt that hard either. Definalty not a $1200 job if it was based on difficulty.



job is slighly more involved on any version of the jetta vs an A4.

If you are talking about a 4 clylinder mk1-3.. then the job is easy.. 2 hours tops with broken bolt repair.

Mk4s were a little harder because of the mount in the way and most actualy charge mor for a MK4 timing belt compared to an A4.. although I feel the A4 is more work to do.. just not as much of a pain.

1200 for labor is excessive though with the average dealer charging 100 bucks an hour.. its not a 12 hour billable job on a 1.8t. Most charge about 8 hours.

you have an 00 so the pump is slightly more costly then the later cars and the tensioner and rollers are only used on the the aeb atw so they are more costly and were later updated.

not an excuse for the price.. but an explanation.

bOOOOstedAudi
06-06-2007, 08:40 AM
Get that written quote. Once you have it you can do all sorts of fun things.

FWIW, My local Audi, Subaru, Porsche dealership- Delta Imports, installed the SouthBend clutch in my car for under $500. They installed upgraded mounts while in there. Labor to install the full ECS timing belt kit with snub mount and an electric fan kit was 500-600. When the S4 smoked a stock turbo the dealership installed the RS4 turbos, piping, intercoolers, timing belt kit, engine and tranny mounts, rs4 clutch, and wiped everything down while it was apart. Labor was still only about 3 grand.

thats a good dealer

e.van
06-06-2007, 09:59 AM
First, make sure that changing all of that stuff is necessary. Second, 1200 worth of labor is equal to more than 13 hours of work. That just doesn't seem right. DO they have to pull the engine?

'Round here, labor at random mechanics is $80 or so per hour... Dealerships are more [eek] .

Bic-Ball
06-06-2007, 10:03 AM
my local audi charges iirc 97 an hour so that would be closer to 12 hours which is still silly considering the tools, lifts, and experience they have.

Obsessed
06-06-2007, 10:06 AM
'Round here, labor at random mechanics is $80 or so per hour... Dealerships are more [eek] .

That's why I stated MORE than 13 hours worth of work. ;)80 per hour is very typical.

A4Rob
06-06-2007, 10:08 AM
That's why I stated MORE than 13 hours worth of work. ;)80 per hour is very typical.

I have seen reputable shops as high as $120/hr

18T
06-06-2007, 12:08 PM
I'd ask for a written quote detailing parts and labor. Then send it to Audi of America as proof of attempted robbery.

??

They have a set time they have to do it in. They get paid for aka 13hrs but they might be done in 2.

Its all by the book.

And at my dealer its 130$. cheapest i think in the chicago area.. some are at 145$/h

onemoremile
06-06-2007, 12:55 PM
It isn't just the labor. 900 is an amazing amount of money for timing belt parts. It sounds like they are pricing every piece at full retail or higher. They are price gouging.

Shortness
06-06-2007, 01:03 PM
you would be surprised how many VW/Audi dealerships gouge their prices. we search every autoparts store in the area before we go to Fiore's. and we get dealer discounts and whatnot, but its sill about 30-40% more to buy from them compared to about anywhere else. that becomes a problem when its one of those wierd parts nobody else has.

Rico750
06-06-2007, 01:31 PM
my dad lives in holland (drives an Audi and very hard core audi) and he can get used and new parts of the german ebay. they often dont want to ship to the US.
i will probably get most of my parts through him.. (very cheap there) screw those stealerships!

Calabria
06-06-2007, 02:47 PM
My TB was around $800 for the kit, labor, and tax.

turboquattro
06-06-2007, 10:55 PM
I paid 899$ with waterpump and tb but I installed it at my work. It took a week but way worth it!