TIP Subforum

[AuDIDAS4]

I'm expanding the conversation about the Tip Club originiated by FrimmelNoJerz from the B5 S4 Chatterbox to here. We figure if the station wagons can get their own forum, us TIP owners ought to be entitled to one as well. It's been proposed as just a general TIP section, similar to the Avant section, where TIP owners from all makes and models could post, but feel free to propose any other ideas/suggestoins.

[Sinister]

I second the motion.

[4ringAR]

one more that is for the idea.

[jpsimon]

heh are you guys serious?

[Sinister]

heh are you guys serious?

yeah...

[dukez]

You guys need more than 3 tip owners. And write a big proposal. Include pie charts.

[jpsimon]

50 page proposal at the minimum.

[ImaVunDerBrah]

I'd like to see a petition signed by 51% of tip owners on the board.

[DoubleNutz]

TIP Forum ...I am for it.[up]

[AuDIDAS4]

You guys need more than 3 tip owners. And write a big proposal. Include pie charts.
I'm working on the PPT presentation now. [:)]

[FrimmelNoJerz]

motion x20 for life.

[Sinister]

Well heck x20, we are halfway there!

[jpsimon]

Let's have a separate forum for manual quattro cars, manual fwd cars, tip quattro, and tip fwd while we're at it. Also, a 35% tint forum, a 20% tint forum, a limo tint forum, and of course... a separate forum for each and every brand of chip you can get for an audi!

[dukez]

Those are dangerously wading into the realm of ideas JP, you don't want to inadvertently create a subchannel in this forum between simple Feedback and Ideas.

[Sinister]

Let's have a separate forum for manual quattro cars, manual fwd cars, tip quattro, and tip fwd while we're at it. Also, a 35% tint forum, a 20% tint forum, a limo tint forum, and of course... a separate forum for each and every brand of chip you can get for an audi!

Well JP, that would require you posting a separate post asking for those section, plus apparantly 51% of those who would use that forum asking for it.

Why don't you just get out of this thread since you clearly have nothing positive to say towards it.

Plus a good reason to have a tip section is so we can ask questions without having twice as many people come in and say how tips suck. Kinda like how you are coming in here ruining this thread.

[jpsimon]

....well maybe you should get a manual audi? I KEEEEEED [:p] [:D]

[rds0000]

Maybe a "Feedback/ Help" section on how to drive a manual. Or perhaps a Sub-Forum on how not to be sensitive about people joking with you about what kind of transmission is in your car........

[AuDIDAS4]

So, are the Avant owners sensitive about driving Avants because they have their own section?? Why does wanting a TIP forum to share information about TIPs and TIP tuning make us sensitive??? If we were really sensitive about it, don't you think we'd lay low and fly under the radar instead of trying to start a TIP Club and getting our own forum. That's putting ourselves out there even more for criticism and jokes so seems like a strange definiton of "being sensitive" to me.

[dukez]

Yes they are sensitive about driving Avants. If you read the forum, theres a support thread about it.

http://audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=128683

[jpsimon]

[;)]


Plus a good reason to have a tip section is so we can ask questions without having twice as many people come in and say how tips suck. Kinda like how you are coming in here ruining this thread.



So, are the Avant owners sensitive about driving Avants because they have their own section?? Why does wanting a TIP forum to share information about TIPs and TIP tuning make us sensitive??? If we were really sensitive about it, don't you think we'd lay low and fly under the radar instead of trying to start a TIP Club and getting our own forum. That's putting ourselves out there even more for criticism and jokes so seems like a strange definiton of "being sensitive" to me.

[AuDIDAS4]

Yes they are sensitive about driving Avants. If you read the forum, theres a support thread about it.

http://audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=128683

I don't have an Avant, so I don't read forums that don't necessarily apply to me. A little "Tip" that you and your "manual" friends that felt the need to chime in may want to consider. And please don't take that as being "sensitive". Read any forum you want and bash Tips all you'd like....it's a little cliche and tiresome, but whatever gets you thru the work day.

[rds0000]

Ok, if you guys get a "TIP" forum, i want a Cold Weather Package forum..no wait! a Premium Package forum (sounds exclusive). You know this sub-forum thing sounds great. I mean why stop w/ Model Forums? Too broad to cover such complex automobiles. We should, as a community really try and touch ever aspect of these fines cars. What happens when someone has a question about the "Heated, leather-wrapped 4-spoke multi-function steering wheel"? Why shouldnt they be able to go to the Heated, leather-wrapped 4-spoke multi-function steering wheel Forum? One could argue the functionality of a steering wheel this complex (almost as complex as an Automatic transmission) cant be fully exploited without proper discussion and idea sharing. I see the light..

[dukez]

I don't have an Avant, so I don't read forums that don't necessarily apply to me. A little "Tip" that you and your "manual" friends that felt the need to chime in may want to consider. And please don't take that as being "sensitive". Read any forum you want and bash Tips all you'd like....it's a little cliche and tiresome, but whatever gets you thru the work day.

[eek][eek][;)]

[AuDIDAS4]

OK dukez, my emoticon translating is a little rusty....are you still making fun of me or did we just have a Tip/Manual breakthru and now we're BFFs. :o)

[Anthony]

See, the problem here, is that you guys are asking for a Tiptronic Forum at a bad time. The GCC'ers are already up in arms about us having too many subforums in the OT section. So, don't take it personal. [:)]

[AuDIDAS4]

Oh man, we're going to get the shaft because the OTers are complaining?!?!?! You know it's a sad day when Stage 3 Tips get less attention than the GCCers. [:)]

[Anthony]

Oh man, we're going to get the shaft because the OTers are complaining?!?!?! You know it's a sad day when Stage 3 Tips get less attention than the GCCers. [:)]

Nope, just explaining the reason for all the jokes and chatter from other members.

No more new forums will be added until after our switch to a bigger, better, new server later this year.

[Sinister]

So tips/autos suck... So many of you believe this, than why is the SLR McLaren 722 edition a 5 speed auto, does it suck? At 650hp I think it would smoke all of your 6sps. There's a little fun fact for the day.

[dukez]

OK dukez, my emoticon translating is a little rusty....are you still making fun of me or did we just have a Tip/Manual breakthru and now we're BFFs. :o)

You were the only one "Trip"ping. OHH hell yeah, i went there!! Dems just jokes [:D] [cool]

[jpsimon]

For the money there are countless other cars i would buy. What's your point?


So tips/autos suck... So many of you believe this, than why is the SLR McLaren 722 edition a 5 speed auto, does it suck? At 650hp I think it would smoke all of your 6sps. There's a little fun fact for the day.

[SleeperAvant]

So tips/autos suck... So many of you believe this, than why is the SLR McLaren 722 edition a 5 speed auto, does it suck? At 650hp I think it would smoke all of your 6sps. There's a little fun fact for the day.

Koenigsegg CCX.

[derek2079]

making a tip forum is about the same as making a manual forum and an auto forum, quattro forum, color of your car forum, over 50k mile forum over 100k mile forum, cars with satellite radio forum, cars with non satellite radio forum...

[Sinister]

For the money there are countless other cars i would buy. What's your point?

My point being if Autos suck I doubt McLaren would make them

[rds0000]

My point being if Autos suck I doubt McLaren would make them

I have a car w/ an auto trans, i went to one of the other forums, did some quick reading, and now i can fully utilize the letters P N D R. I was lost before i got all that info. I cant believe you guys are judging like that. You know how confusing all those letters are? I still want a "Heated, leather-wrapped 4-spoke multi-function steering wheel Forum". I bet there are others with the same steering wheel, and we could bond, have a meet.

[DoubleNutz]

I have a car w/ an auto trans, i went to one of the other forums, did some quick reading, and now i can fully utilize the letters P N D R. I was lost before i got all that info. I cant believe you guys are judging like that. You know how confusing all those letters are? I still want a "Heated, leather-wrapped 4-spoke multi-function steering wheel Forum". I bet there are others with the same steering wheel, and we could bond, have a meet.


Ya know immature responses like this only serve to further justify why TIP drivers want their own forum. The six speed crowd cannot get enough of bashing the TIP Audi.

I for one am tired of it and since we cannot get a moderator to advocate this on our behalf I for one want to step up again and say "GIVE US OUR OWN FORUM, PLEASE"

To make cracks about PNDR is simply wrong, and part of the reason that TIP owner want their own forum is because the TIP is a MUCH more complex transmission that a six speed and there is little to no support in the open forum for solving the problems, or providing answers for the TIP community. Our questions usally get 'washed out by cheap annoying cracks and our perfomance needs are rarely ever taken seriously which is probably a good part of the aswer why perfomance enhancements are lacking for us and six speed drivers keep moving ahead .

I know of some Porsche communities dedicated completely to Automatic and TIP tuning that have caused developments in the same line of Porsches that would drive a line of shame around a Porsche 6 Speed (928, 996, 968, etc.).

So sorry to see this kind of response for what many of us feel is a legitamate and furthermore much needed forum.

THANK YOU.

[jpsimon]

The only people that can answer TIP related questions are other TIP owners and they wouldn't be giving you any different information if you had your own sub-forum. It is 100% completely pointless to create yet another sub-forum. If you don't like people making fun of you for getting an automatic car I have 3 simple things for you to do to alleviate the problem:

1. Ignore the flaming posts
2. Add the flamers to your block list
3. Get a new car that isn't automatic [:p] [;)]




To make cracks about PNDR is simply wrong, and part of the reason that TIP owner want their own forum is because the TIP is a MUCH more complex transmission that a six speed and there is little to no support in the open forum for solving the problems, or providing answers for the TIP community.

THANK YOU.

[DoubleNutz]

The only people that can answer TIP related questions are other TIP owners and they wouldn't be giving you any different information if you had your own sub-forum. It is 100% completely pointless to create yet another sub-forum. If you don't like people making fun of you for getting an automatic car I have 3 simple things for you to do to alleviate the problem:

1. Ignore the flaming posts
2. Add the flamers to your block list
3. Get a new car that isn't automatic [:p] [;)]

I not so suprised that six speed owners object to TIP Owners having their own forum to communicate. But the quoted text above gives the stongest arguement as to why it makes sense to create the TIP Forum.

First- "If you don't like people making fun of you for getting an automatic car..." I specifically wanted a TIP in my S4- not a Six Speed (I only do Six Speeds in Porsche)

Second- "flaming posts"- because, we drive a TIP

Third- "Flamers that are not TIP drivers that wash out content driven around TIP dialogue

Fourth- "The only people that can answer TIP related questions are other TIP owners " (you said it youself).

Fifth- I believe TIPs outnumber Six Speed Production and it continues to remain stagnent in of performance deveploments, a forum where that dialog can be focused without TIP bashing flamers is fair if we don't want trolls taking our serious issues to the "Get a new car that isn't automatic" immature nonsense catagory.

[jpsimon]

Clearly you missed my point... the same tip owners who would post in your threads in the proper forum... would post in your threads in the sub-forum. You don't need a sub-forum to get this information out of them.

if you don't like people making fun of you, block their username's. it's extremely simple

[dukez]

Heres how i see it:

1. A lot of TIP owners (on this board) aren't performance oriented. Although i can't really say for the S4 crowd, I dont read those forums, but I haven't seen a stage 3+ Tip S4s from anyone (yet) (same for A4's). So then because there are also two different platforms, there needs to be a TIP A4 and a TIP S4 subforums, which if you cant already tell, one (or both) will be pretty useless.

2. If you get this own sub forums of yours, it wont be any different than the regular forum, i doubt this forum will only be TIP related (regarding things only a TIP car can mod) threads, and even if it is, what kind of thread is only tip related? "what shift knob can i use?"??

I already know it'll just be just a bunch of same old questions like what kit should i get etc etc, HID for my car? Rims? which the main forum can answer. In all just completely redundant.

[DoubleNutz]

Clearly you missed my point...


Nope didn't miss it... I just thought it rather silly and bearing on ridiculous.

[DoubleNutz]

Heres how i see it:

1. A lot of TIP owners (on this board) aren't performance oriented. Although i can't really say for the S4 crowd, I dont read those forums, but I haven't seen a stage 3+ Tip S4s from anyone (yet) (same for A4's). So then because there are also two different platforms, there needs to be a TIP A4 and a TIP S4 subforums, which if you cant already tell, one (or both) will be pretty useless.

2. If you get this own sub forums of yours, it wont be any different than the regular forum, i doubt this forum will only be TIP related (regarding things only a TIP car can mod) threads, and even if it is, what kind of thread is only tip related? "what shift knob can i use?"??

I already know it'll just be just a bunch of same old questions like what kit should i get etc etc, HID for my car? Rims? which the main forum can answer. In all just completely redundant.

Lord this guy is just cluesless! Ever wonder why you have not seen a Stage 3+ TIP? Perhaps because our Audi's have completly different issues and in some instances completely different needs and mods thats do not apply in the 6 speed world... hell while you guys are giving bad advice about changing a "F hose" I go out to my ride looking for this thing for an hour before I realize- "Crap... the TIP does not even have a friggin F Hose". Another example of 6 Speed forum incompetence... while trying to gain an appreciation for the differences between the TIP down pipes and the 6 Speed downpipes, not one 6 Speed owner could answer the questions that TIP owners were tirelessly waiting on this forum to answer and in between all the insults and wise cracks about getting rid of the TIP to get a 6 Speed we actually NEVER got and answer to our questions... HOW LAME WAS THAT?

As far as TIP owners not being performance oriented[confused] ... WHERE THE HELL DID WE FIND THE ASSCLOWN THAT CAME UP WITH THAT ASSUMPTION!?!? Again this proves my point about why TIP Owners need their own forum- here is a probably another 6 Speed driver that does not understand that TIP's would love to have Stage 3+ cars but our problem has been that we have software issues that are not being addressed in the areas where you 6 speed guys brag so much about how much faster the 6 speed is than the TIP but you have no clue that the TIP transmission is the same as the TIP used in the Porsche 996 and 997 Twin Turbo.

[Sinister]

Look through this freakin thread, there is like 2 B5 S4 Tip owners pushing Stage 3.

I think this thread alone shows the reason. We cannot even talk about having a tip thread without clowns coming in here because they see "TIP" and feel hey lets rag on em.

If you are sick and tired of all the subforums, THEN GET RID OF THE SOME!

Business & Finance *NEW* - There's a good use of space on here

Food & Drink *NEW* - A whole 24 threads crowding this sucker up

Instead of us TIP owners having to sort through 12 pages of flaming to find the answer to the question we asked, why not have our own section and not have to deal with the crap.

Block the users who do it. There's an idiotic idea... Then we don't see half the posts no matter what they are about. It's actually that simple.

[DoubleNutz]

Look through this freakin thread, there is like 2 B5 S4 Tip owners pushing Stage 3.

I think this thread alone shows the reason. We cannot even talk about having a tip thread without clowns coming in here because they see "TIP" and feel hey lets rag on em.

If you are sick and tired of all the subforums, THEN GET RID OF THE SOME!

Business & Finance *NEW* - There's a good use of space on here

Food & Drink *NEW* - A whole 24 threads crowding this sucker up

Instead of us TIP owners having to sort through 12 pages of flaming to find the answer to the question we asked, why not have our own section and not have to deal with the crap.

Block the users who do it. There's an idiotic idea... Then we don't see half the posts no matter what they are about. It's actually that simple.

[hail] Dude... you said it.

We can't have a TIP forum but "Food and Drink" get its own space? Hmmmph, go figure.

I am Stage 2+ right now and want to go Stage 3 when we can address more of the software issues that impact our transmission.

[Sinister]

[hail] Dude... you said it.

We can't have a TIP forum but "Food and Drink" get its own space? Hmmmph, go figure.

I am Stage 2+ right now and want to go Stage 3 when we can address more of the software issues that impact our transmission.

I guess on the bright side we can read 21+ replies on the smoothest vodka....[rolleyes]

[DoubleNutz]

I guess on the bright side we can read 21+ replies on the smoothest vodka....[rolleyes]

LOL... no doudt! LOL

[Sinister]

ghetto honda driving by just reminded me... manuals make hondas more annoying...

haha yeah it's a stretch, I guess it's I'm still flabbergasted from reading about the smoothest vodka.

[ImaVunDerBrah]

haha yeah it's a stretch, I guess it's I'm still flabbergasted from reading about the smoothest vodka.
.... its an off-topic section. What did you expect to read?

[DoubleNutz]

.... its an off-topic section. What did you expect to read?The point is... that there is supposedly "no more room on the server * because it is crowded with junk subforums and ligitimate Audi subforums cannot be accommodated because we have a place to talk about FOOD & WINE.

[Sinister]

The point is... that there is supposedly "no more room on the server * because it is crowded with junk subforums and ligitimate Audi subforums cannot be accommodated because we have a place to talk about FOOD & WINE.

yeah... that pretty much sums it up.

[Anthony]

Who said there was no more room on the server? I simply said we aren't going to add any new forums until after we move servers and launch the new site. We have plenty on our plates as is. Bickering and badmouthing sure isn't going to help anyone's cause.

Please be patient, that's all we ask. When the time is right, things will happen. In the meantime, see if you can't get more than 4 or 5 users interested in the idea of such a forum.

[Sinister]

Admin, this place is without question my favorite Audi forum. It just seems as if you passed us off like so many others do because "TIP" was mentioned. It wasn't like you said,

"That's not a bad idea, We (mods/admin) will talk about that one. Unfortunatly we need to move servers and right now isn't the best time to be adding new forums. However once we do move servers we will take it into consideration. Thanks for you patience."

That we can understand and accept.

[DoubleNutz]

In the meantime, see if you can't get more than 4 or 5 users interested in the idea of such a forum.


DEAL!

[Anthony]

Like I said before, it's just bad timing for such a request, because of both the incredible work load we have currently and the number of GCC loyalists on our back for adding too many subforums to the OT section.

A previous Tip owner myself, I can see the merit of such a forum. This is the main reason we have an Avants Only Forum (me). So, without further adieu...we have several other projects on our plate right now, and it just isn't the best time to be adding new forums. However, once things settle down a bit, we will take it into consideration. Thank you for you patience.

[DoubleNutz]

Like I said before, it's just bad timing for such a request, because of both the incredible work load we have currently and the number of GCC loyalists on our back for adding too many subforums to the OT section.

A previous Tip owner myself, I can see the merit of such a forum. This is the main reason we have an Avants Only Forum (me). So, without further adieu...we have several other projects on our plate right now, and it just isn't the best time to be adding new forums. However, once things settle down a bit, we will take it into consideration. Thank you for you patience.


Anthony you've got my RESPECT, brutha you are ALRIGHT![up]

[Sinister]

Like I said before, it's just bad timing for such a request, because of both the incredible work load we have currently and the number of GCC loyalists on our back for adding too many subforums to the OT section.

A previous Tip owner myself, I can see the merit of such a forum. This is the main reason we have an Avants Only Forum (me). So, without further adieu...we have several other projects on our plate right now, and it just isn't the best time to be adding new forums. However, once things settle down a bit, we will take it into consideration. Thank you for you patience.

Much Better! We shall rally the troops and return in full force... to wait... for the time to be right... but we will be here :)

[jpsimon]

The same people arguing that there shouldn't be a new tip sub-forum are the same people arguing that there are far too many OT sub forums as it is, and the addition of the new forums are just ludicrous. Pretty much everyone in this thread bashing you guys are the same people who are pissing and whining about the plethora of OT subforums (me included).

see here: http://audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=138407

And for the record, it is still hilarious you guys want your own sub forum.




If you are sick and tired of all the subforums, THEN GET RID OF THE SOME!

Business & Finance *NEW* - There's a good use of space on here

Food & Drink *NEW* - A whole 24 threads crowding this sucker up

[Anthony]

It may be funny to you, Jonah, but it really doesn't concern you and will have zero effect on you whatsoever. Cut 'em a lil slack, huh.

[jpsimon]

I just want the best for audizine.. and i feel deep down in my heart that this wouldn't be great.

[Anthony]

You know you just gotta trust me, JP. Been doing this since shit since 2001, and we're still here for a reason. [;)]

[Sinister]

I just want the best for audizine.. and i feel deep down in my heart that this wouldn't be great.

Honestly how?

It would not effect you in anyway. You don't have a tip, don't go in the tip forum... how the heck do you feel deep down in your heart it wouldn't be good? Were not kicking old people out on the street or eating the poors food. We are asking for a forum. How the heck can that be so horrific?

[dukez]

As far as TIP owners not being performance oriented[confused] ... WHERE THE HELL DID WE FIND THE ASSCLOWN THAT CAME UP WITH THAT ASSUMPTION!?!?


Fair enough, but then..


Ever wonder why you have not seen a Stage 3+ TIP? Perhaps because our Audi's have completly different issues and in some instances completely different needs and mods thats do not apply in the 6 speed world... hell while you guys are giving bad advice about changing a "F hose" I go out to my ride looking for this thing for an hour before I realize- "Crap... the TIP does not even have a friggin F Hose". Another example of 6 Speed forum incompetence... while trying to gain an appreciation for the differences between the TIP down pipes and the 6 Speed downpipes, not one 6 Speed owner could answer the questions that TIP owners were tirelessly waiting on this forum to answer and in between all the insults and wise cracks about getting rid of the TIP to get a 6 Speed we actually NEVER got and answer to our questions... HOW LAME WAS THAT?

Why are all the TIP owners waiting? Wheres the knowledgeable TIP dude(s)? Whos going to help you guys out in this little TIP forum of yours if everyone is just waiting. [confused]

[DoubleNutz]

Honestly how?

It would not effect you in anyway. You don't have a tip, don't go in the tip forum... how the heck do you feel deep down in your heart it wouldn't be good? Were not kicking old people out on the street or eating the poors food. We are asking for a forum. How the heck can that be so horrific?[/q

This is what so completely amazing to me- It does not affect them in any way and Jeezus H Chirst these guys are acting like TIP owners are asking to bifurcate the entire AZine forum! We are asking for a simple sub forum to fit in with the Food and Wine and Business sub forums for crying out loud! Some folks are so anti-evolving... just wanting only to live in caves and remain cavemen. [rolleyes]

[DoubleNutz]

Why are all the TIP owners waiting? Wheres the knowledgeable TIP dude(s)? Whos going to help you guys out in this little TIP forum of yours if everyone is just waiting. [confused]


[rolleyes] EXACTLY! This why we need our own forum... thank you for strengthening our arguement.

[rds0000]

Ya know immature responses like this only serve to further justify why TIP drivers want their own forum. The six speed crowd cannot get enough of bashing the TIP Audi.

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I cant believe you think my post immature[:(] . Just because you dont appreciate the complex beauty in the engineering of the modern multi-function steering wheel. I dont get it. I was really getting into the whole sub-forum thing, until i started getting flamed because people dont agree with what myself and a few other members would like to see. I thought that was the point of the thread....to understand the needs of members in the community. I started to feel comfortable with you guys, i thought we had a bond. I have never felt comfortable around other people asking multi-function steering wheel questions. This is a sad day, i hope you are proud of yourself.

[DoubleNutz]

Just because you dont appreciate the complex beauty in the engineering of the modern multi-function steering wheel.
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I dont get it.
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...people dont agree with what myself and a few other members would like to see.
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...to understand the needs of members in the community.
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This is a sad day, i hope you are proud of yourself.


Because we are reasonably intelligent we can recognize patronizing and insulting dialogue, and yes for that I am proud.[:D]

[jpsimon]

Do you honestly think a wave of hundreds of knowledgeable TIP owners will suddenly join AZ if they see a TIP sub-forum? No! Just because a new sub-forum pops up doesn't mean any new knowledge will come out of the woodwork. The same members that would have posted and answered your questions in the other forum will post in this one. You don't need a sub-forum, it accomplishes nothing. The only legit "reason" you try to give is the people making fun of you. All you have to do... is just ignore it!


[rolleyes] EXACTLY! This why we need our own forum... thank you for strengthening our arguement.

[DoubleNutz]

All you have to do... is just ignore it!


OOOOOOOOKay, I have just created my first candidate for my block/ignore list.

Have an nice day[:)]

[jpsimon]

someone is upset he doesn't have a good argument [:)]

[dukez]

[rolleyes] EXACTLY! This why we need our own forum... thank you for strengthening our arguement.

Sooo you need your own subforum to wait for a savior to come and help you guys out find an F hose? Super. This is getting no-where. I'm sorry you cant find the help you need in this "6-speed world" Just saying that if help isnt there within the 6-speed/tip mixed crowd already, i highly doubt there will be in your little sub forum as well. But what do i know, im an idiot concerning TIPs.

Truthfully you are right, it wont concern me (or JP), i wont check it. You and Sofia can post back and forth together in there and probably make it the most popping forum on AZ. Good luck. [up]

[jpsimon]

Truthfully... I've recently done the Audi TIP transmission conversion mod to my manual subaru. So this very much does concern me.

[AuDIDAS4]

We can probably debate this forever, but for me, it really comes down to the fact that if a group of car owners that just have a different body style (Avant) but are still mechanically the same as their sedan counterparts are worthy of a forum, I would certainly think the TIP owners with obviously different mechanical quirks, problems, flaws, advantages etc. from their manual counterparts would be worthy. I appreciate Anthony stating that he's an Avant owner/enthusiast and as an Administrator, he had the authority to make an Avant forum, so there is one. Rank has its privileges and I thank him for considering our request. All we can do is state our case, get some strength in numbers, and hope it works out.
And whether we decide to discuss torque converters, valve bodies, TIP chips or what we had for dinner last night, it does confuse me a little bit why some of you 6 speeders would even care. Just like any forum, there will be Stage 3 guys like Cole, Justin, and myself (apologies to others I'm forgetting or don't know about) that will try and provide insight on our upgrade experiences and hopefully be helpful and there will likely be posts about who's hotter: Jessica Alba or Jessica Simpson (Jessica Simpson, just for the record). That's how it goes, but at least we'll know we have a small slice of internet real estate that we can call "ours". In the end, is that so bad???

[rds0000]

Lets hold off on the "pulling of rank" program. Anthony happens to have an Avant, but anyone around Audis for any period of time knows that the Avant owners are a different breed. I have a sensible idea. Why dont you ask for a TIP sticky? Or perhaps you could start a TIP thread and with the amount of interest you guys say you have it would be constantly bumped. Oh, and FYI, i know it makes the conflict simpler, but there are no "six speeders" arguing anything. A few members noticed this little beauty of a thread after having a similar yet opposite discussion on the same topic (Sub-Forums and their necessity).

[AuDIDAS4]

Again, I'm not trying to make conflict...if anything I thought my last post was pretty calm and gracious. My comments about Anthony certainly were not intended to be derogatory, so I apoplgize if they were construed as such and I really do thank him and the other AZ mods and administratrors for hearing us out.

But honestly, your implication that the Avant forum is justified on your subjective opinion that "Avant owners are a different" breed" seems to only serve to make our case stronger. At least our forum would have some technical discussion beyond, "I'm a different breed", or at least I hope it would.

[Sinister]

I'm still waiting on the answer as to why the possibility of having a tip forum is nearly the same as taking food from starving children while beating puppies.

[rds0000]

I think you only fixated on part of my post. I made actual suggestions that perhaps given a certainl level of participation might warrant a Sub-Forum. I think at the current time, "the Man" wants to leave things as-is. Thats my impression anyway. You "TIP" forum advocate types seem like a nice bunch, dont let a few E-Morons making cracks about your choice of transmissions get you all bunched. Consider the source....then move on. And Sofia...it MAYBE like starving children, but beating puppies??? Thats over the top! If you were asking for a BOV sub-forum, THAT would be like beating puppies. Good luck on your quest.[:)]

[OverSpun]

I think the best idea is to probably just combine every subforum onto the site into 1 giant forum called "Everything". My point being, that there is never a way to please everyone, because seemingly a favor to one, is a serious disservice to another. A TIP specific forum would be beneficial to everyone with tiptronics (obviously), but even without such a forum, there are model forums that encompass this already, which is the main model forum that your vehicle falls under. In the meantime, those forums should suffice to serve your needs, and if you cant find an answer... do a little research and do a writeup on what you found to help everyone else that may have a similar issue. [up]

[Sinister]

Even in the main forums, say B5 S4, the tip questions just get lost and overlooked because of the other activity going on there.

[Ilan]

Another vote for a TIP sub-forum. [up]

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