Pointless story about my street sprint vs. a WRX STi

[evoic]

I pass a big giant winged eleven-teen inch exhaust Suby on a three lane, 50mph road.
Come to a stop in the far left lane, just as the light is turning red.

Suby comes to the middle lane and starts revving a little, but his car is 1/2 car length back.

???

........he's giving me a head start. So nice of him. [rolleyes]

I drop the right rear window and wave him forward.
He rolls up to even with me.

Rev up to 2200RPMS, light turns green and we launch at the same time.
I have him by a car length until about 30 and then he pulls to a 1/2 car length lead by 60.

I shut it down, hit the brakes, and come up to my turn.

I remember that I used to get owned by those things when I had my 330i, so I'm somewhat impressed with the lil' 2.0liter, once again.

APR FTW. Well, sorta'.

In my mind, I decided that he had to be impressed with how the Audi hung with him. [:p]

For the anti-street race crowd:
1. No traffic
2. 10mph over the speed limit is normal driving here in CA
3. Straight road, nothing near us in front or behind

[TJHUB]

It's strange that these Audi's can stick with a STi like that. A guy I work with has an '04 STi and to be honest it feels like a real animal compared to my B7 or even the B5 with a PES T-28 kit on it that I used to have.

And yeah...you shouldn't be street racing like that! [:p] [;)]

You're a Tip right? If so, we'll call that a kill for Audi. [drive]

[Fobia]

tip + fwd haha :/

[evoic]

tip + fwd haha :/

?

I'm Tip + Quattro, so I guess it's only one, "Ha"

[4-tified]

I pass a big giant winged eleven-teen inch exhaust Suby on a three lane, 50mph road.
Come to a stop in the far left lane, just as the light is turning red.

Suby comes to the middle lane and starts revving a little, but his car is 1/2 car length back.

???

........he's giving me a head start. So nice of him. [rolleyes]

I drop the right rear window and wave him forward.
He rolls up to even with me.

Rev up to 2200RPMS, light turns green and we launch at the same time.
I have him by a car length until about 30 and then he pulls to a 1/2 car length lead by 60.

I shut it down, hit the brakes, and come up to my turn.

I remember that I used to get owned by those things when I had my 330i, so I'm somewhat impressed with the lil' 2.0liter, once again.

APR FTW. Well, sorta'.

In my mind, I decided that he had to be impressed with how the Audi hung with him. [:p]

For the anti-street race crowd:
1. No traffic
2. 10mph over the speed limit is normal driving here in CA
3. Straight road, nothing near us in front or behind

Hmmmm....19" heavy wheels, auto trans, and pretty much a chip upgrade with an intake and exhaust....and you actually got the launch on a manual trans STI from a standstill? That would be a sub 5 sec. 0-60 when driven correctly.
Your car always seems to defy reality, that's amazing.
You have the most unreal A4 out there, and I mean unreal for sure. [:D]

[rds0000]

I had an encounter with an Evo and a STi, and they left me like i was in limp mode. I have a 6mt quattro with all the appropriate mods and when they passed me (from a stop at a stop light...2 lanes, i was in the right, they were in the left one behind the other), i tried to make believe i wasnt involved. Wasnt even remotely close. Michael Schumacher could have been in the seat and would have had the same result, they were just that fast. The only reason i wasnt totally depressed afterwards, was that the Suby guy crashed into the guard rail about 100 yds after he blew by.......then i passed him. PS, he was ok and the Evo guy took off.

[evoic]

Hmmmm....19" heavy wheels, auto trans, and pretty much a chip upgrade with an intake and exhaust....and you actually got the launch on a manual trans STI from a standstill? That would be a sub 5 sec. 0-60 when driven correctly.
Your car always seems to defy reality, that's amazing.
You have the most unreal A4 out there, and I mean unreal for sure. [:D]

You can always feel free to stay off my posts.

But if you insist, I'll indulge you with an answer that shouldn't defy your reality.
Stop for a second and think to yourself......

What purpose would it serve to lie about being beat by 1/2 a car length to 60mph?

If I were going to post up a lie, I would do it HondaKilleresque and tell you it was 4 car lengths and then when we got to the next light, the guy's girlfriend jumped out and hopped in my car.

Your post, is simply meant to agitate.
I have no reason to lie, whatsover.
Go away.
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[4-tified]

You can always feel free to stay off my posts.

But if you insist, I'll indulge you with an answer that shouldn't defy your reality.
Stop for a second and think to yourself......

What purpose would it serve to lie about being beat by 1/2 a car length to 60mph?

If I were going to post up a lie, I would do it HondaKilleresque and tell you it was 4 car lengths and then when we got to the next light, the guy's girlfriend jumped out and hopped in my car.

Your post, is simply meant to agitate.
I have no reason to lie, whatsover.
Go away.
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Simply to aggitate?
Hardly.

You make claims and people will call you on it. It's that simple.
Now, just because you ARE aggitated does not mean that my intent was to do that.
Your aggitation is your own, only you can control how you feel.
I'm simply questioning why you even make these types of posts in the first place.

Stay off your posts?
Dude, if you post on a forum where the members are free to read and respond then get off your high horse. You don't own this forum, and if you don't want posts that may question your comments, then simply don't post, or take the comments and questions in stride.
If you are tellling the truth, then my questioning you shouldn't matter should it?

Feel free to explain how your A4 is that fast or why the STi is that slow.
I take what I read and apply what I know and I question. you get po'd, and that I have no control over.

[4-tified]

I had an encounter with an Evo and a STi, and they left me like i was in limp mode. I have a 6mt quattro with all the appropriate mods and when they passed me (from a stop at a stop light...2 lanes, i was in the right, they were in the left one behind the other), i tried to make believe i wasnt involved. Wasnt even remotely close. Michael Schumacher could have been in the seat and would have had the same result, they were just that fast. The only reason i wasnt totally depressed afterwards, was that the Suby guy crashed into the guard rail about 100 yds after he blew by.......then i passed him. PS, he was ok and the Evo guy took off.

Ouch! Fast car + bad driver = pain. [:)]

[DenverNoob]

well....this, to 60mph, is believable in this regard....and here is why.
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if you look at STi dyno plots (and im assuming stock STis here) one can clearly see that the Audi 2.0t, by virtue of its small turbo size, is making MORE power through a good bit of the rev band.....call it half. and that half of the rev band is the lower RPM range. in shorter gears, the STi's turbo isnt even spooling to its full potential....giving the Audi a slight advantage. now...you are passing by 60mph shifting into 3rd gear...so given that...and that the STi driver was shifting far too early im assuming (since his HP comes much higher in the rev band)...so this is, to me, a completely believable story. the STi has a serious weight advantage...but better driving and a bad launch can level that playing field IMO.

now....had this gotten into more of 3rd gear, we'd be hearing a totally different story...a much longer gear for the subi to spool and wave goodbye!

[evoic]

Simply to aggitate?
Hardly.

You make claims and people will call you on it. It's that simple.
Now, just because you ARE aggitated does not mean that my intent was to do that.
Your aggitation is your own, only you can control how you feel.
I'm simply questioning why you even make these types of posts in the first place.

Stay off your posts?
Dude, if you post on a forum where the members are free to read and respond then get off your high horse. You don't own this forum, and if you don't want posts that may question your comments, then simply don't post, or take the comments and questions in stride.
If you are tellling the truth, then my questioning you shouldn't matter should it?

Feel free to explain how your A4 is that fast or why the STi is that slow.
I take what I read and apply what I know and I question. you get po'd, and that I have no control over.

Who are you, Dr. Phil??
I invited you to stay off my posts because you're far from welcome by me....but as it's a public forum, you're free to do as you please.
Just as you did.
As for why I took offense, I think any rational person that tells the truth and then is publicly called a liar (or at least you implied) would probably react in the same manner.
And finally, I explained how things happened - exactly how they happened - and not one detail more or less.
My car is APR tuned, just like everyone else. It has the same Carbonio intake that others have.
I also have an eCode test pipe, and I do not have an exhaust, only tips.
I chose not to add exhaust because I want the back-pressure from the stock setup.
The only possible difference would be that I run 100 octane full-time and the driver of the STi.

But, since you are calling BS on something that you were not there to see in the first place, I can't imagine you'll believe a single word of what I just posted.
But I CAN imagine that you'll have something to say about it, regardless, as always.
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[baaudi]

You have the most unreal A4 out there, and I mean unreal for sure. [:D]

You called him a liar and meant to get a respone. You like pushing people's buttons, plain and simple.

You weren't there so your assumuptions are just that. I'm betting most of the people on this forum would believe Evoic over you everytime.

[rds0000]

Oh come on, lets not have such thin e-skin. I think most Subys one would encounter that would be motivated to "test" his car against one of yours (readers) is of the modded variety. And we are of course in denial if we actually think an out of the box B7 with every reasonable mod (no KO4 etc) would stand a chance against a properly motivated and modified STi. A stock STi from a low RPM dig against a modded B7, winning by 1/2(Suby) car to 60, is totally reasonable-ish.

[Re5pectThe_Cuz]

actually from a roll and highway the subies arent all that powerful, but our K03's do run out of breath as well. I feel that a fairly modded on, chip, intake, exhaust, testpipe can hold its own with a stock Sti, or even one w/ an exhaust or something...i could be wrong, maybe the A4 really weighs that much more than the 3

[Ohio B7]

I was told that highway rolls are not to their liking. My friend tied one is his dads 02 mustang GT convertible 5 speed.

Of course this is driver related, and displacement.

[Das General]

clearly the STI guy could not drive..

not trying to be a dick or anything, but my chipped s4 could maybe keep up with a an sti...and you claim your heavier less powerful a4 was 1/2 length behind?

if you did it, great...but I have my doubts

[evoic]

Hey folks, I'm resigned to having all the doubters in the world - that's fine, so be it.

1. I don't lie.
2. Why would I.
3. You weren't there.
4. I've been tought a valuable lesson. Thanks.
.

[Das General]

1. I don't lie.
2. Why would I.
3. You weren't there.
4. I've been tought a valuable lesson. Thanks.

1. How do we know?
2. Because you want to look cool.
3. Obviously, or else this lie wouldn't work
4. Don't lie to people that know the capabilities of cars, you're welcome

[Fobia]

1. How do we know?
2. Because you want to look cool.
3. Obviously, or else this lie wouldn't work
4. Don't lie to people that know the capabilities of cars, you're welcome

he has somthing to prove .. because he has a small penis duh.. that is why he wanted to share.

what the fuck why would he waste his time typing a lie. [;)]

[Das General]

lol

this is the internet...people lie and is probably the easiest way of doing so. I'm just saying that a stg2 a4 is not gonna keep up with an sti IMHO. Sorry pal.

[Fobia]

lol

this is the internet...people lie and is probably the easiest way of doing so. I'm just saying that a stg2 a4 is not gonna keep up with an sti IMHO. Sorry pal.
my best friend has a 05 sti chiped intake exhaust.. he doesnt walk me that hard when im running 91.. even tho he still does beat me pretty damn good..

[evoic]

You guys get your kicks this way?

Wtf is wrong with you.....?

The sky is blue in California. Don't believe me.
The monitor on my desk is a Dell. Don't believe me.
The gum in my mouth is Eclipse. Don't believe me.


1. How do we know?
2. Because you want to look cool.
3. Obviously, or else this lie wouldn't work
4. Don't lie to people that know the capabilities of cars, you're welcome

1. Because I have people all over this forum as well as SoCal where I frequent the area GTG's that can vouch for that statement.
2. Because I want the CAR to look cool and to show unmodded forum users what it's capable of.
3. Try as I might, but I can't roll back time. In the 1 in a million off-chance that the situation should present itself again - I'll be sure to have a camera ready for your benefit.
4. How the hell do YOU know the capability of MY car?

I got all night......

[Das General]

The sky is blue in California. Don't believe me.
The monitor on my desk is a Dell. Don't believe me.
The gum in my mouth is Eclipse. Don't believe me.


Thanks for the pointless info.



How the hell do YOU know the capability of MY car?


because your sig tells me what you have in your car and those mods really don't seem to be enough.

[evoic]

Thanks for the pointless info.



Just following your lead.....



because your sig tells me what you have in your car and those mods really don't seem to be enough.

You THINK or you KNOW?
You seem to be an Ass.
Is this something people THINK or something they KNOW?

By the way, what are you doing on the B7 forum anyways?
I don't argue with people about S4's because I don't know about them.
Maybe you should follow MY lead. [eek]

[sean8989]

100 octane... intake tp id say hes at least 280 hp

its believable if the suby is stock.

u know how the mexicans in LA they have the rice crackers? all for show?
maybe that suby was like that... no performance mods realli... just a big one muffler that sticks on like a sore thumb. and a big wing to FLY!

iono lol

neways he didnt say he won....

and u make it seem as if his car has no chance to even see the ass of a subaru.

u cant realli expect high hp and torque from an a4.


neways in my opinion the story its not far fetched and since he did say he did not win the race... is very fairly believable.

quick to get speed cars are Japanese cars.

[INTEGRATION]

Meh, I hope an old lady doesn't randomly cross the road when you're doing this. STi's are freaking fast, especially modded ones, had an interesting trip in the backseat of my friend's meth-injected STi earlier today lol.

[sean8989]

Meh, I hope an old lady doesn't randomly cross the road when you're doing this. .

lol.

i remember u talkd about the lady up somehwere in riverside or sumthing .


yeah yeah... honestly a4s aint that fast. people tune it i think for a luxury car with that slite taste of a sports car. so that once in a while u can have ur fun.

*iono if others know what im talking about... maybe you guys are too old for my generation* but like... in like games... for example car racing games... obviously theres the super duper fast cars like the ferraris or skylines etc etc. but the PROS choose the shit cars in the game and still beat other people . they choose it to be unique and different . and also doesnt want the fastest car... something in between and stuff u no? or in street fighter, although u have a fav best character. u choose one that u rarely use just cuz u want sumething diff and its more fun that way? > hard to explain lol [: *

lol peoples guna read this and go wtF? lauhg at me i dun care. hard to explain my thought into words

[atan888]

sti are ok but evos specially the 9 w/ the mivec motor dont waste your time. you wont win. those evo 9 pushes a lot of whp. alot faster than a suby. they eat subies like theres no tomorrow. those evo owners would cost them less than 3k to gain almost 100 whp. so how can we compare? 3k on an audi would buy you a good exhaust and an intake and less than 20whp. hey thats why they are called best for the buck . $/$

[evoic]

For the record, my name "EvoIC" has nothing to do with Evo's.

As for the cars themselves, if the situation were ideal, I would race one without hesitation.
I raced a brand new E55 about 3 weeks back and got absolutely walked on by a 50 year old guy with a good attitude.

It was simply to have fun with my car and use other cars as a gauge as to where I stand in the pecking order.
Can I beat a Lambo......no.
But if they'll indulge me, then sure - I'll give it a go.
And when we're done I'll concede the stomping, give a thumbs up, and go on about my business.

But I guarantee that I surprise them more often than they surprise me. [;)]

[johnnybravo!]

100 octane... intake tp id say hes at least 280 hp

its believable if the suby is stock.

u know how the mexicans in LA they have the rice crackers? all for show?
maybe that suby was like that... no performance mods realli... just a big one muffler that sticks on like a sore thumb. and a big wing to FLY!

iono lol

neways he didnt say he won....

and u make it seem as if his car has no chance to even see the ass of a subaru.

u cant realli expect high hp and torque from an a4.


neways in my opinion the story its not far fetched and since he did say he did not win the race... is very fairly believable.

quick to get speed cars are Japanese cars.
ThisMexican much prefers kraut n kimchee on top of his rice cracker. I swear i clip off faster lap times @ WillowSprings when I blast ranchero/banda/mariachi from the tapedeck. Get so excited I fart.
Stay Brown,
The Mexican

[INTEGRATION]

Street racers are all gay
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[Imperial]

[/thread]



yeeeeah, we're fast approaching that point


[headbang]

[4-tified]

You called him a liar and meant to get a respone. You like pushing people's buttons, plain and simple.

You weren't there so your assumuptions are just that. I'm betting most of the people on this forum would believe Evoic over you everytime.

Anyone is allowed to "believe" what and whoever they want.
That's a given.
Yes, I wasn't there and called BS on it. You weren't there and call it true.
Believing it happened, however, doesn't make it true.

Don't worry about button pushing, evoic knows how to push buttons as well. [;)]

Oh, and OF COURSE I'm expressing my assumptions, and opinions, as I was not there.
Thanks for pointing out the obvious.
But, just because I wasn't there doesn't mean I'm wrong, I could be, but you can't be sure of that.

He might have beat a poorly driven STI. However, a properly driven STI won't lose to an A4 modded as evoic's is (IMHO), even though it seems nicely modded.
I've applauded the man in other posts on his car.
This time I simply question the "race".

BTW, even his own topic says, "Pointless story......."
So, why the panties in such a bunch? [:D]

People, lighten up. It's the internet, stop the haten.
Can't we all just get along? [:)] [up]

[4-tified]

Who are you, Dr. Phil??
I invited you to stay off my posts because you're far from welcome by me....but as it's a public forum, you're free to do as you please.
Just as you did.
As for why I took offense, I think any rational person that tells the truth and then is publicly called a liar (or at least you implied) would probably react in the same manner.
And finally, I explained how things happened - exactly how they happened - and not one detail more or less.
My car is APR tuned, just like everyone else. It has the same Carbonio intake that others have.
I also have an eCode test pipe, and I do not have an exhaust, only tips.
I chose not to add exhaust because I want the back-pressure from the stock setup.
The only possible difference would be that I run 100 octane full-time and the driver of the STi.

But, since you are calling BS on something that you were not there to see in the first place, I can't imagine you'll believe a single word of what I just posted.
But I CAN imagine that you'll have something to say about it, regardless, as always.
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.

Ok, let's play nice.
I accept that in that race something happened and you "beat" the STI to a 60mph sprint.
Can I also say that I think the STI was not driven properly, and that a properly driven STI would NOT lose a sprint to 60mph or to 100mph against an auto trans A4 modded such as yours?
I'd love to be the STI driver and race your A4 on a track and see if you repeat that win.

I think my comments are fair and reasonable.
No, I did NOT mean to offend you, even though you became offended.

[A4_cabrio]

What's wrong with you guys making such a mess of this post?

No offense to anyone but I haven't seen any posts coming from evoic in which he was an ass or "craping" on people.

There are many factors in a head to head acceleration stint like this.
You werent there you couldnt tell - plus we dont know how bad/good the Subie driver was.

So until then - I dont care what other people say - good run with the Subie.

Always play safe and don't endanger other people.

I was in a similar situation few nights back.
I was at the stop light next to a new Mustang GT with aftermarket exhaust. I dont know what he had inside that engine. Most likely something better than stock by the way he left me behind.
No cars in front of us for all I could see. Straight road.
We both took off at the same time and while we didnt look at each other we reved the engines to get speed fast and I tried to stay with him.
Tried is the best I could do.
As soon as he hit second gear he was 3-4 car leghts in front of me in no time.
then we both calmed down and drove at the speed limit for that stretch of frontage road.

By the way that mustang roared it must have been more than stock + exhaust.
Anyway - taught me a lesson. Dont bite more than you can chew.

[VMRWheels]

Hey evoic,

wanna see how fast your car launches vs my nearly bone-stock '04 STi?? how about my '02 ZX-6R? :-P

I've found that a LOT of evo and STi owners can't drive worth crap, and that most of them probably learned stick on that car.

BTW, I would hardly call doing a 0-50 launch "racing..." especially on a clear dry road where speed limits are around 40-50 anyways.

bleh. as long as nobody's doing anything stupid...

[evoic]

Hey evoic,

wanna see how fast your car launches vs my nearly bone-stock '04 STi?? how about my '02 ZX-6R? :-P

I've found that a LOT of evo and STi owners can't drive worth crap, and that most of them probably learned stick on that car.

BTW, I would hardly call doing a 0-50 launch "racing..." especially on a clear dry road where speed limits are around 40-50 anyways.

bleh. as long as nobody's doing anything stupid...

Wilson......

I'd race your stock 04' STi any time, any place.

Unless people haven't read the post fully - they'll see that the sprint was to 60mph and I lost.

But back to you and I.
I'd even be willing to put it on film for the world to see.
Keep in mind, that the STi owners are the only ones that have anything to lose when they race an Audi.
It's like me playing basketball against Jordan.
If the score is Jordan: 21 / Me: 16 - I still kind of won in most people's eyes. [;)]

So.

Name the place. [up]

[jimmyrecluse]

It happend. Simple. dont know the driver of the STI, wasnt there, dont know the conditions and variables, no nothing other then what evoic said, 0 - 60 got the jump 1/2 car behind. Easy enough? I know nothing of the details and dont need to, all was stated was 0-60 lost by 1/2 car. Easy to understand.

[INTEGRATION]

yeeeeah, we're fast approaching that point


[headbang]

Meh, everyone does it until they finally know someone that got killed or get killed themselves.

[sean8989]

hahahha i didnt mean it that way.

im in no way racist...

my child hood is Long beach Inglewoood and Korea town.

trust me im pretty dam mexican washd... cholo jacket cortez name it hahaha

im in no way racist so dun be offended.

but wen u live in LA u just see those... u know wana be race cars?

its just everywhere.

no harm intended.

[evoic]

Meh, everyone does it until they finally know someone that got killed or get killed themselves.

I think you are confusing what I did with idiots diving through traffic and hitting mach speeds in an attempt to out-masculine the next guy and win ego-supremecy for 3 seconds while they're driving.

I took off fast from a stop-light with no traffic around on a straight dry street and took my foot off the gas pedal just after crossing the speed limit.

There is definitely a difference and I'm not falling into the category that you're trying to place me.

I think that you and I agree on the issue, actually.
I do not condone and never will condone endangering those around you by driving recklessly.

I had 6 seconds of fun and it was done.
My days of pushing it to the limit are over.

I have a beautiful wife at home and a 4 month old baby to consider.

[TJHUB]

Damn evoic, you got the short end on this post. [rolleyes]

It's funny to me how people react; how each person fills in the blanks as to how they see things and then comment on it. So here's mine:

First of all, any quick sprint to withing 5 or 10 mph of the posted speed limit should be no big deal to anyone unless there is heavy traffic or children around or in the car(s). Get off it some of you preachy people. And what's the point of having any type of "sports car" if you don't use it once in a while? [rolleyes] Any one of you that says you never do this is probably a hypocrite. [:p]

Secondly, how come every time someone has a little race EVERYONE has to believe it's all car? WTF? If this was the case in the real world, wouldn't race car drivers be worthless? If everyone somehow has the same driving talent, why not just get any crazy moron off the street to drive F1 cars, drag cars, or any race car? This makes no sense to me. I'd venture to say that most of you can't drive half as good as you think you can. [rolleyes] Two cars that can do 0 - 60 times within one second of each other can and will on occasion have the slower car win. Really!

I don't think evoic lied one bit. He obviously got the jump on the STi or the loss would have most likely been worse for him. ANYTIME a 4 cylinder motor with an automatic gets a lead from a dig against a manual, it's safe to say the auto got the jump. Why would this be hard to believe? The auto has a HUGE disadvantage (or at least should). Also, I'm sure evoic's car isn't too much of a slouch once rolling, so the fact that the STi had to work hard to win isn't hard to believe either.

I think the gentleman that goes by the name Inferno is a pretty straight forward honest guy (sorry to call you out - please forgive me). I've seen him post that he can take STi's from a roll with his APR K04 setup, but he can't take them from a dig even with his manual. This certainly seals the deal that a Tip car certainly can't do it either. This is of course assumed that he tried several times and the results were consistent and he and the STi driver(s) are similar in driving talent. [:D]

Don't sweat some of these guys. At least one of them likes to spew his tremendous capacity for knowledge on a regular basis. It doesn't pay to feed the fire with people like this. [;)]

[kristokes]

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e55/latclxinfamus/mitsuwa.jpg

i ripped my boy's ^^^^ off a 40mph roll by 1 car length. still waitin to run him on tha track from a dig. i'll have that video'd when we do run.

conclusion: audis can rip subies with tha proper touch. hehe

[kristokes]

btw that 40mph roll. we didnt just run once. we had 3 runs and ripped him all on 3 runs.

[gpxluke]

Maybe it's just a normal WRX with STi sticker on lol

[lnferno]

Damn evoic, you got the short end on this post. [rolleyes]

It's funny to me how people react; how each person fills in the blanks as to how they see things and then comment on it. So here's mine:

First of all, any quick sprint to withing 5 or 10 mph of the posted speed limit should be no big deal to anyone unless there is heavy traffic or children around or in the car(s). Get off it some of you preachy people. And what's the point of having any type of "sports car" if you don't use it once in a while? [rolleyes] Any one of you that says you never do this is probably a hypocrite. [:p]

Secondly, how come every time someone has a little race EVERYONE has to believe it's all car? WTF? If this was the case in the real world, wouldn't race car drivers be worthless? If everyone somehow has the same driving talent, why not just get any crazy moron off the street to drive F1 cars, drag cars, or any race car? This makes no sense to me. I'd venture to say that most of you can't drive half as good as you think you can. [rolleyes] Two cars that can do 0 - 60 times within one second of each other can and will on occasion have the slower car win. Really!

I don't think evoic lied one bit. He obviously got the jump on the STi or the loss would have most likely been worse for him. ANYTIME a 4 cylinder motor with an automatic gets a lead from a dig against a manual, it's safe to say the auto got the jump. Why would this be hard to believe? The auto has a HUGE disadvantage (or at least should). Also, I'm sure evoic's car isn't too much of a slouch once rolling, so the fact that the STi had to work hard to win isn't hard to believe either.

I think the gentleman that goes by the name Inferno is a pretty straight forward honest guy (sorry to call you out - please forgive me). I've seen him post that he can take STi's from a roll with his APR K04 setup, but he can't take them from a dig even with his manual. This certainly seals the deal that a Tip car certainly can't do it either. This is of course assumed that he tried several times and the results were consistent and he and the STi driver(s) are similar in driving talent. [:D]

Don't sweat some of these guys. At least one of them likes to spew his tremendous capacity for knowledge on a regular basis. It doesn't pay to feed the fire with people like this. [;)]

As TJHUB has mentioned, often the outcome of these types of runs are largely in the hands of the driver. I'd like to think that I'm a consistent driver -- my first time at the 1/4 track with my A4, all 7 of my runs were all within two tenths of each other and my 60 fts were all within 1 tenth of each other. On the other hand, I saw an STi running anywhere between 13.7 to 15.3, each being the best and worst time, respectively. The moral of the story is that anything can happen in a race (street or track), even when you run a car that should out perform you. That's where the expression "You beat the person, not the car" comes from, but as we all know, cars don't drive themselves! [;)]

[B7AudiA4]

Wow Jeff raced! =P
But gives me motivation that the Boat weight Audis have potential!

[Gzo17]

Nowhere In His Original Post, Did He Say He Beat The Sti!!!!!!
Can You People Read Before Typing And Bitching??

[VMRWheels]

Maybe it's just a normal WRX with STi sticker on lol

Brakes look small and I don't see them Brembo's (or maybe it's just the lack of lighting and angle?) appears to be a WRX to me. WRX's are about as fast as a chipped A4...

in any case, It's definitely the driver. And for the record, I really admire F1 drivers with their endurance and consistancy... it takes a lot out of you to concentrate that long on the track, not to mention the constant G-forces experienced in an F1 car.

[4-tified]

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e55/latclxinfamus/mitsuwa.jpg

i ripped my boy's ^^^^ off a 40mph roll by 1 car length. still waitin to run him on tha track from a dig. i'll have that video'd when we do run.

conclusion: audis can rip subies with tha proper touch. hehe

That's a modded WRX right?

It almost looks like the Euro spec STI with the foglights.
US model have the 9 spoke BBS rims.

Like the man asked, where are the Brembo's?

[VMRWheels]

Wheels are aftermarket, EDM has same fogs as JDM version, these are US-spec fogs made to fit the USDM large bumper beam.

oh yeah, forgot about the telltale sideskirts... this one has WRX skirts w/ the OEM strakes.

this is definitely a WRX (2.0L turbo)

[kristokes]

lol i never said it was an STi. it's a WRX guys!! calm down. lmao! if i ripped an STi, i would definitely put that shii in bold!! but still WRX come 224hp stock? with a bigger turbo and much lighter than an a4?

[kristokes]

and my boy's subie aint stock. and yes it depends on tha driver but it's from a roll guys.

how hard is it to race from a roll?

downshift to 2nd, wait 3 honks, then rip it and shift. blah blah

[Dangler]

i beat an sti an entire street length. took place in manhattan, between 33rd and 32nd st....btw i was on foot, and he was in gridlock......pwned

im not mocking you evoic....im actually a big fan of your ride, and what you've done with it...thumbs up!!!

[kristokes]

i wanna run you now sonic tha hedgehog!! im in NJ too lol

[VMRWheels]

my ZX-6R will pwn you all!!! haha.. j/k

Anyways, Just wanted to make sure people know that it wasn't an STi. :-)

ok, unsubscribing now... this is getting lengthy.

[Dangler]

i wanna run you now sonic tha hedgehog!! im in NJ too lol

you'll get your chance, once i pick up a new set of sprinting shoes....YOUR ON!!!

actually once i get wheels, and a drop, i'll come to one of the gtg in edgewater...thursdays are tough for me, cause of work

[kristokes]

im down. im alwaiz at edgewater every thursday. i'll be in tha white b7, u cant miss me.

[Re5pectThe_Cuz]

a buddy of mine has a Vishnu stage zero WRX ...were gonna go on an empty street or somewhere in the back roads and see how I do this. Its supposed to be faster than the Sti. Hes got the programming and the turbo back exhaust...

http://www.vishnutuning.com/wrx06_stage1_v300.htm

just to see how I keep up, I think it would be fun...

[1-CLEAN-A4]

I think you are confusing what I did with idiots diving through traffic and hitting mach speeds in an attempt to out-masculine the next guy and win ego-supremecy for 3 seconds while they're driving.

I took off fast from a stop-light with no traffic around on a straight dry street and took my foot off the gas pedal just after crossing the speed limit.

There is definitely a difference and I'm not falling into the category that you're trying to place me.

I think that you and I agree on the issue, actually.
I do not condone and never will condone endangering those around you by driving recklessly.

I had 6 seconds of fun and it was done.
My days of pushing it to the limit are over.

I have a beautiful wife at home and a 4 month old baby to consider.

Amen brother....end of story

[kristokes]

a buddy of mine has a Vishnu stage zero WRX ...were gonna go on an empty street or somewhere in the back roads and see how I do this. Its supposed to be faster than the Sti. Hes got the programming and the turbo back exhaust...

http://www.vishnutuning.com/wrx06_stage1_v300.htm

just to see how I keep up, I think it would be fun...

off a dig, he'll murder you. off a roll, ehh. AWD takes longer to get goin than FWD so u may have him in tha beginning but he'll catch up quick!

[Re5pectThe_Cuz]

oh I know off the launch he will murder me. those launches just arent fair. Im thinking like a 10mph roll since our turbos spool up faster than theirs. I drove it the other night and full boost wont come in til near 4k. my car pulls pretty hard thats for sure, but that vishnu crap is pretty sick as well. I think the audi's have a much flatter curve, his power seems to come on all at once so it feels much faster