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wafballa54
03-18-2007, 04:17 PM
what are some cheap upgrades i can do for my audi? im looking for some cheap upgrades that make a difference

MikeWasHere05
03-18-2007, 04:20 PM
Audis aren't cheap cars.

pac1085
03-18-2007, 04:24 PM
Nor are the mods for them.

wafballa54
03-18-2007, 04:25 PM
so there's nothing under like 250 bucks??

TQMB5
03-18-2007, 04:30 PM
snub mount, short shifter, tint, paint your lowers, search...

AudiRacerS4
03-18-2007, 04:30 PM
you can't even buy an "intake" for under $250

4ringAR
03-18-2007, 04:50 PM
^^not true. ive seen nice looking DIY intakes for really cheap.

you could paint lowers, tint, grill, lowering springs(but you might want to look into struts too). a couple other small things. but when you save your money and get something, you will be so satisfied.

Ado
03-18-2007, 04:56 PM
umm you can get your car vaged. its free if u have the set up. clean corner. lowereing springs.

europshhrc279
03-18-2007, 05:02 PM
short shifter,tints,snub mount,paint lowers,HID headlights, lowering springs, DIY cone filter for like 20 bucks,DV,theres alot of em...just search

ice cream man
03-18-2007, 06:05 PM
chip for about 400

AudiRacerS4
03-18-2007, 06:10 PM
there is really no performance mods you can do for under $250

bandit
03-18-2007, 06:14 PM
save up some cash and buy a chip and DV to get ya started

wafballa54
03-18-2007, 06:31 PM
whats a dv?

4ringAR
03-18-2007, 06:44 PM
diverter valve

wafballa54
03-18-2007, 06:47 PM
whats that do? sry man im 16 im just gettin into all this but i wanna make my car hot like everyone else ya kno

a4cefed
03-18-2007, 06:50 PM
best bang for your buck is a chip as said above. when you say make a difference are you talking
performance ?

i think you really need to read up on these cars. it takes time to learn, but will pay off. did you read the FAQ yet?

wafballa54
03-18-2007, 06:51 PM
yea man all i want is performance....wait can u put one of those dv's on a stock turbo??

4ringAR
03-18-2007, 06:57 PM
you have a diverter valve already. i *think* it diverts the air that would be going to the turbo back to be recirculated when your turbo isnt spooling. the problem is, the stock diverter valve is known to fail, especially when the boost is increased with a chip, so that is why people upgrade to an aftermarket dv or the 710N dv which came on the TT and i guess is less prone to fail.

so yea, you can upgrade the dv, and you will almost definantly need an upgrade with a big/different turbo.

it doesnt increase the power or anything, though. a chip is your best bet for power to your dollar. you will go from 150 hp(pre 2001 a4's) or 170hp(2001 a4's) to approximately 200hp for around $400.

ChescoS6
03-18-2007, 09:10 PM
Where in PA are you wafballa54?

wafballa54
03-19-2007, 04:16 AM
in like noth eastern..around scranton..hbu?

ChescoS6
03-19-2007, 07:08 AM
I'm southeastern, an hour west of Philly. I was going to say I would meet up with you and let you drive my car to get a feel for what the mods do, maybe help you make the decision if it is worth the money. You are a little too far away for that. Good luck though [up]

Militant-Grunt
03-19-2007, 08:36 AM
A chip is best HP for your buck. A very significant gain, but as mentioned above once you're chipped your stock DV won't last long at all. Forge 007 DV is among the best to get.

wafballa54
03-19-2007, 05:51 PM
alrite well what kind of chip would be the best and where could i get it?

Cronogr
03-19-2007, 05:57 PM
whats that do? sry man im 16 im just gettin into all this but i wanna make my car hot like everyone else ya kno

Pff lucky americans u can drive from 16 ? H0lly sh.t
Whatever, what turbo do u running ? just go for a chip to gain some power :) U will love it :) I use giac for my k04 i'm pretty happy with this ;)

www.giacusa.com

ChescoS6
03-19-2007, 05:58 PM
GIAC is a good chip and probably the most common. You could go to AWE Tuning which is around 1.5- 2 hours from Scranton and they can install right there. This is the first time I have ever said this on AZ but, you should probably use the search and read the "Sticky" at the top of the B5 forum. Most of your questions would be answered there.

http://www.awe-tuning.com/pages/shared/part_detail.cfm?PMaI=1&PMoI=1&PEI=2&PP=a4_18t_chips.cfm&PPT=Chips&IL=GIACChips

bandit
03-19-2007, 06:09 PM
read this wafballa, http://audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=113728
It should give you some basic info you need to know for all your upgrading needs.

wafballa54
03-19-2007, 06:23 PM
alrite well i was on the awe tuning website...so could i get the chip for the horsepower and all that. then theres a chip for the tiptronic to make it shift faster...would i be able to put both on my car?

bandit
03-19-2007, 06:26 PM
you sure can. what motor do you have? FWD or Quattro?

wafballa54
03-19-2007, 07:00 PM
quattro..live in PA man all that snow lol

ibew5audi
03-19-2007, 08:36 PM
If you're poor neuspeed's is way better than stock with the vbl chip. About $200-250. Hits 15lbs and drops to about 12ish. Nice roll ons. Giac is probably better but more money. Slight seat of the pants difference but not major between the two. Stock turbo will last longer w/ neuspeed chip. I have over 130kmi on mine (none of the giac guys can say that). Car has 194kmi on it.

victorvu
03-19-2007, 08:46 PM
im going to get a REVO CHIP my friend is going to tune my car. its going to be an extreme tune. trying to get about 160awhp from just a chip. SORRY FOR HIJACKING THE THREADY but would injectors do anything?

Cronogr
03-19-2007, 09:21 PM
160 only with chip ? What setup are u running ? And yes the injector will do some job

fred2ka4
03-19-2007, 10:03 PM
If you want handling performance you can do a Drive Train Stabilizer (DTS) or rear sway bar as both will make a considerable difference in the way your car handles.

Tiluleshpingen
03-19-2007, 10:49 PM
Drive the car first get familar with it , try doing suspention or brakes first, before doing any power mods.. you're young (looking out for you).. how long you been around audis or cars in general?

wafballa54
03-20-2007, 04:17 AM
i've been around cars my whole life..but never an audi b4...i'm pretty much used to it now. but i want some more power when i step on the gas ya kno. i was lookin into that giac chip. seems pretty sweet. can you instal a chip like that yourself?

CaSp3r9
03-20-2007, 04:31 AM
If you're poor neuspeed's is way better than stock with the vbl chip. About $200-250. Hits 15lbs and drops to about 12ish. Nice roll ons. Giac is probably better but more money. Slight seat of the pants difference but not major between the two. Stock turbo will last longer w/ neuspeed chip. I have over 130kmi on mine (none of the giac guys can say that). Car has 194kmi on it.

Not necessarily true... My A4 (1998.5) has been running APR software, which is pretty comparable to GIAC, since just before 2000 and currently has 126,000 miles which converted is roughly 203,000 kilometers! It's still got the factory installed k03 and is running very strong (187awhp)! I take care of her, she takes care of me! [up] [wrench] [drive]

wafballa54
03-20-2007, 01:19 PM
can you install a chip yourself?

Alan
03-20-2007, 01:22 PM
I think theres programming that needs to be done, so the car will run right, and so it wont run rich or lean, etc...

Correct me if Im wrong.

Flash
03-20-2007, 01:35 PM
If it were me, I would get the chip later.

I would do intake first, ie buy the intake piping yourself, get a large k&n size filter and make a cold air box, simple to do. Just search.

Then I would tackle exhaust, like cat-back. If you do a chip after that, it will be more satisfying in my opinion, plus the chip will make more of a difference with opened up intake and exhaust.

fred2ka4
03-20-2007, 02:35 PM
I would actually do the suspension and brakes first because I have heard that the intake will not really make any gains unless you a BT setup.

Alan
03-20-2007, 02:37 PM
If you have a 1.8T, the intake does nothing. The stock airbox can handle quite a bit of power. Intake just = sound

victorvu
03-20-2007, 02:38 PM
160 only with chip ? What setup are u running ? And yes the injector will do some job

yeah he said from 140-160 awhp all stock just a chip he has dyno sheets from his dbw audi a4 all stock. btw its a mustang dyno ill try and get the dyno sheets.

wafballa54
03-20-2007, 02:38 PM
im actually gonna get a magnaflow setup first. i like a little bit of sound to my car...then im goin for 2 giac chips one for performance and another for the tiptronic. then goin from there

wafballa54
03-20-2007, 03:38 PM
you guys think that sounds good...

fred2ka4
03-20-2007, 04:12 PM
Exhaust will free up a few hp but I still say do your suspension and brakes first. What's the point of having power if the car cannot handle it or stop. I have had a lot o friends who have gotten themselves into trouble because they had done engine upgrades first and then wanted to see how fast the car could go and ended up getting into trouble because the car would not stop or handle correctly. Now you can't get into a lot of trouble by just adding an exhaust but make sure not to neglect the areas of braking and handling.

wafballa54
03-20-2007, 04:20 PM
thanks for the advice...what you think should come first in the suspension deal?

94jedi
03-20-2007, 04:22 PM
wafballa, you should hook up w/ some local audi guys around your way so they can show you the ropes. Sounds like you've got some learning to do. don't worry, we were all there once. bitterchild and some of the "jersey Jerks" took me under their wings back when I started...consider yourself lucky you don't have to deal with them hahaa!

94jedi
03-20-2007, 04:23 PM
thanks for the advice...what you think should come first in the suspension deal?

On the cheap, get a set of bilstein shocks and h&r springs, either race or sport. Race springs give a firmer ride and a lower drop. Most people prefer the sprts due to their more forgiving feel.

wafballa54
03-20-2007, 04:29 PM
the only guy from PA i've talked to so far is like 2 hours away lol...i just want to get this baby runnin rite ya kno

fred2ka4
03-20-2007, 04:41 PM
As far as looks and ride, I have the H&R sport springs and Bilstein shocks and they handle and ride very nice. You can check out my sig as that's how the car sits with that setup. I would do shocks and springs, DTS, and rear sway bar and that should be plenty good for handling. Steel braided brake lines and upgraded pads should also be good enough for stopping until you go BT.

bandit
03-20-2007, 04:45 PM
the only guy from PA i've talked to so far is like 2 hours away lol...i just want to get this baby runnin rite ya kno

I live in allentown if you need help with anything.

dubiraq05
03-20-2007, 06:08 PM
suspension first i think its the best upgrade

Quikslvr
03-20-2007, 06:23 PM
All of you guys are so nice to this noobie.

You can learn a lot from Audizine, I'm still learning every day.

Are you good at wrenching? Thats the best why to save money on mods.

wafballa54
03-20-2007, 06:28 PM
haha yea i am a noobie....im trying to learn as much as i can. Sry man but idk what wrenching is

bandit
03-20-2007, 06:31 PM
wrenching means doing the work yourself hence [wrench]

wafballa54
03-20-2007, 06:31 PM
well im def gettin the exhaust first, then i want the chip. then i'll prolly look at some suspension...i was thinkin some of those H&R sport springs..then the car will drop a bit too so that'd b nice

Quikslvr
03-20-2007, 06:31 PM
Are mechanically inclined?

wafballa54
03-20-2007, 06:32 PM
haha well ya i love doing everything myself..it puts a little more pride into your car

turbo kraut
03-20-2007, 07:42 PM
this is really good read, will tell you everything they are and then some

http://www.audiforums.com/m_393146/tm.htm


also this for doing your own work

http://www.audidiy.com/

turbo kraut
03-20-2007, 07:44 PM
oh and watch the photobucket video in my sig, i have apr stage 1(91 octane) stratospgere dv, and 2.5 inch exhaust with a cheap ebay muffler

some say it is not 6.5 seconds to 60, but give or take half second


also your first upgrade imho should be a boost guage, if it wasn't already said

ibew5audi
03-20-2007, 10:33 PM
Not necessarily true... My A4 (1998.5) has been running APR software, which is pretty comparable to GIAC, since just before 2000 and currently has 126,000 miles which converted is roughly 203,000 kilometers! It's still got the factory installed k03 and is running very strong (187awhp)! I take care of her, she takes care of me! [up] [wrench] [drive]

Not true doesn't mean "comparable" to. You have to have GIAC to make it a false statement. You and I are freaks for even having stock turbo on this long. Oh, you only have 126kmi on car? Stock turbos probably see that mileage often. k03s don't last too long trying to make 16 to 18lbs of boost to redline unless you mean baby by taking care of her. I hammer mine daily and have put 150kmi on since July '02. Like I said 194k miles not kilometers on car/turbo. Nice try though. What's the price of a
giac chip anyway-$250 or under these days? A4 suspension even stock is excellent as long as the struts/shocks are good on a bang for buck issue. I had an eclipse gsx before this and the only difference with the suspension is in the slolom w/stock setup. Not really an everyday issue vs taking bends under speed and loading suspension smoothly. imo on the suspension thing and modding it first.

ibew5audi
03-20-2007, 10:57 PM
worth the money
http://supremepowerparts.com/applications/1997-2001_Audi_A4_Quattro_1.8T.aspx?cat=1[up]