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sean1.8t
01-11-2007, 08:17 PM
I "stole" this outline from the B6'ers and editted it for the B5'ers. so hopefully it can be sticky'd for now until the "official" AZ sticky's are done. i also added a lot of what i like to think is good info

So you got a B5 A4 I.E. 1996-2001.5(1996-1999 = pre facelift, 1999.5-2001.5 = facelift), NICE! However, everyone else has an A4 and lots of them are faster and nicer then yours so before you ask dumb questions, use the search button a lot. also read everything on here. I REPEAT, SEARCH! AND READ EVERYTHING HERE BEFORE POSTING A QUESTION.

Lets start out with factory options. Sport suspension has red shocks. To see them, look behind your wheels with a flashlight. If you have the cold weather package, good for you. Now onto the important stuff. Tiptronic basically sucks, its not “both”. You have a clutch or you don’t, I hate when people try to say they have both. If you have stick, awesome. 5 speed is the superior! As for motors, if you have the 2.8 (30v or 12v) some people like it. Basically all you have is an intake, exhaust, short shifter, and chip(30v only). The chip is not going to do as much as a 1.8T chip but still helps. 30v's also have the PES supercharger (www.pes-tuning.com).. If you have the money go 4 it! PES states that you can bolt the supercharger to the 12v but you need s/w. I.E. standalone

Im going to focus on the 1.8T here because most of us have that. Here are pretty much all your mods that you can do…a lot are universal so can be used for the 2.8 too

1. Intake – Ok so many cars can gain power from intakes but we cant… The only one that people like is the Carbonio but is it worth the $300? It has been proven to show increases and some think it is but its all preference. there is also the Evoms one but the stock heatshield that comes with it sucks. if you want to hear your turbo spool and your DV or recirculated BOV go psssht! then get a cone type filter(Evoms or homeade) and get the "true heatshield" LINK (http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=89270). all in all the stock airbox is good for about 300hp

2. Exhaust – Because our cars are turbo, freeing up room for the turbo helps bring out power, so an exhaust is important. There are many companies (Borla, Milltek, APR, and Neuspeed are the most popular off the shelf ones). Some like it louder, and some like it softer. Borla would be the loudest then neuspeed. miltek and APR are stealth type exhausts so they are very quiet.. Make sure you get a good diameter depending on how much power your going to be putting out.

2.25"-ko3 power
2.5" to 2.75"-ko4
2.75" and up- BT

3. Test Pipe/High Flow Cat – As I mentioned before, freeing up room for the turbo is essential. A test pipe (TP) replaces the catalytic converter (cat) and makes for a quicker spool, more power, MORE NOISE! and a CEL(check engine light). to get rid of the CEL you have to do the "anti-fouler mod"~search it in the forums. Its an awesome mod but many stay away because it may be illegal in your state and the fines could be huge. it can also smell. Check if your state runs emissions tests on inspection.. a better way is to get a highflowcat (HFC) Miltek makes one that is good but $$$.. best one to get is the Labree one.. only slightly more than a TP and will be legal in a lot more states. and the HP differences between the two wont be noticable.

4. Chip – A chip is probably the best bang for your buck and the most favored by most 1.8T owners. It remaps the feul and boost to push more hp on your car. The main companies are GIAC and APR. there is also Dahlback and neuspeed . Many choose based on which dealer is closest~very important. GIAC is the only one with upgrades for K04.. Dahlback also does but you need their expensive KO4 too..

5. Turbo Intake Pipe (TIP) – The OEM turbo intake pipe or hose can be faulty and collapse under added pressure. A new TIP is a popular mod to make sure the collapsing never happens. APR is the most stout but is only available for the K03 and K04. The Neuspeed is 2nd on the list. It is less stout but still very good and can work for the K03/K04 and the eliminator applications.

6.Boost Gauge – A boost gauge monitors boost from the turbo and is VERY recommended to make sure everything is running smoothly. AWE makes a nice one, as well as ECS Tuning's pod and VDO guage combo.. VDO is a cheap and good guage and the lights match our interiors very nice

7. MBC/EBC – A manual boost controller or electronic boost controller is used to limit the boost that is put out by the turbo… EBCs are better but cost more and there are some MBCs that are better than others -DO NOT HOOK UP ON OF THESE THINKING THAT YOU WILL CREATE MORE POWER- our ecu's do not work that way

8. N75Valve – This controls the smoothness of the boost essentially. Many people throw in an N75J or N75H valve to increase performance (which it does) but it makes the boost come in very harshly and can possibly put your car into limp mode (when your ECU restricts boost because it knows something is wrong)

9. Diverter Valve/bypass valves in general – A diverter valve is most popular and is required for all chip and turbo applications that run more boost. It holds the extra pressure better. Forge 007, Bailey, Hyperboost, and other DVs are good. an OEM 710N DV will hold chipped boost without a problem and is a cheaper soulution. The blow off valve (BOV) is asked about. some say don't do it and will flame you. but as long as you take the necessary steps it can work. you just need to run a recirculation kit to make it work, basically taking the "blown off" air and runnning it back into the intake tract like the DV does initiallly.

10. Short Shifter – Some consider this an Interior mod some consider it an engine mod. Basically it shortens shifts so there is less time in between. Neuspeed and B&M are popular. DieselGeek is also an awesome one for less money too. Ebay is also a great cheap one that people have had good luck with.

11. Snub Mount/D.T.S. – this is the front engine mount of our motors. the stock one is a squishy rubber that allows a lot of play in the drivelines. upgrading to a polyurethane unit cuts out a lot of the slack and rubberish feeling while driving. The APR, Greedspeed, Vastperformance, and 034 snub mounts gets rid of the shifter/drivetrain clunking when hard shifting occurs. Its cheap and an easy DIY for us, go for it! the DTS, or drive train stabalizer, is a unit that bolts directly to the undercarage of the B5 using existing hardware and mounts. it also bolts up to the transmission reducing yet even more driveline slack. it's an easy install. a word to the wise though, throw away the junk rubber mount that comes with it and get a polyurethane one More info here (http://www.centralvalleyspeed.com/forum/showthread.php?p=977#post977). the two places that sell them are AWE and ASP. both are the same only a slight difference in price. but ASP is the only one that has a DTS for a TIP transmission.

12. Clutch/Flywheel – a great man once said "Stock clutch wasn't rated for stock power" [:D]. When going past a simple chipped setup, with the added hard driving a clutch may be needed. It allows for better launches and better grab between shifts. ECS tuning sells a decent clutch but Southbend clutches are the best. The OFE SS is the top dog while the HD is a step lower. Make sure you get a new OEM dual mass flywheel when you get the clutch. Everything should be around $1100 without install.. our cars have a heavy DualMass Flywheel, DMFW, that assists in balancing and honing the engine. it's dualmass is separated by rubber bushings so this is yet another source of the rubberish feel to our cars. there is no problem with the DMFW other than its ~24lbs. a lot of people keep it after a clutch upgrade for numerous reasons. depending on the shape of it you can easily resurface it with a heavyduty scotchbrite pad.. as for a Light Weight Flywheel, LWFW, there are many options, Unorthodox, Fidanza, AWE-tuning to name a few. they will help your car rev quicker but some say it's too much for a daily driver. hard to shift smooth and creates chatter at idle due to our internally balance enigines.

13. Intercooler – An intercooler is an effective and sometimes essential (for K04 or bigger) way to cool down IATs (Intake air temps) from the turbo so more power can be made. The FMIC (front mount intercooler) is the most effective and is placed in the front bumper. Evolution Racewerks is the best-once released that is. Racetek and APR are also nice pieces.

14. Exhaust Manifold – A turbo manifold will open up your exhaust ports, allowing for more flow for the turbo. ATP makes a crappy one that most people use. APR has an awesome one on their Stage 3 kits, and there are some other ones that I cant think of. It is not required with the Eliminator kits but recommended. Most just bite their lip and get the ATP. for BT setups most go ATP as it is the only one easily available for cheap.

15. Intake Manifold – Our stock ones are sweet, don’t worry about it, the Dahlback one is garbage.

16. Turbo – So now you have your FMIC, clutch, exhaust and your ready for the new turbo and software to go with it. NICE!

Turbo Options
This is meant to be a short guide to turbo upgrades. There is a ton of info around here and other forums. Please make sure you use the search for additional info on the type of upgrade you're looking at prior to making a hasty decision.

Some highly recommended parts to get before upgrading your turbo are pretty much all the things that you have just read in this. so get those first as there are certain steps and and order to things.

K04
The ko4 that you want is the ko4-15. Basic bolt in upgrade. No special required parts unless going for the pc-16, J31, or Hammer files from GIAC. Do not pay more than $800 for a K04 alone. They can be found on any of the various Audi forums for less. GIAC makes a very good program for it. $1300 and an install later you can be rolling with 200whp. When looking you will need the K04-15. do not bother on doing a ko4 for your 2001 A4 if you are not going with the Hammer file. the 2001 model year has the ko3s(sport) so there for the GIAC-X chip with the ko3s will only be slightly less powered than the ko4 on basic GIAC programming. for knowing what you need for these setups contact GIAC directly. as it will be easier than me typing it all out. KineticMotorsport has them for a good price usually

PC-16 - 1997-1999.5 model years~usually runs in the 20-25psi range
j31 - 2000~usually runs in the 25-28psi range
Hammer - 2001 and 2001.5~i think usually runs in the 20psi range

GT2X Eliminator
Bolt in upgrade. Slightly larger than the K04. Good for 220Awhp. Most people use the Mika tuning from ATP, others use modified K04 software. it is only oil cooled unlike the other eliminators

GTRS Eliminator
Bolt in upgrade. Much larger than the stock K03. Produces roughly 350chp. Mika tuning or Unitronic for the B5.

GT2871R Eliminator
Bolt in upgrade. $95 more than the GT28RS elim. good for 400chp. Mika or Unitronic for the B5.

Note: For the eliminators, I highly recommend a braided oil return line. The stock oil return will work, but it's a pain to get in. Unitronics for software, but also Mika tuning offered by ATP can be a good software. but FWIW not off the shelf. it requires tweaks to get things running right. some have run tweaked ko4 software with success on this big of a turbo. ATP and Renn-Art are the best places to get the eliminator products. Renn-Art has a proven kit.

APR Stage 3/Stage 3+ kits
APR has a stage three kit with everything you need to get your BT up and running. they have their stg3 GT28r kit for 1997-2000. and their stg3+ GT28RS kit for 2001s. both are very respectable and worry free kits that a lot of people love. APR's website for more info


Full GT28RS
Requires ATP or custom exhaust manifold, custom downpipe, and custom intake. Approx 400chp, depending on the tunng and supporting parts. Needs custom tune, standalone, or dyno tune.

Full GT2871R
Requires ATP or custom exhaust manifold, custom downpipe, and custom intake. Approx 400-450chp, depending on the tunng and supporting parts. Needs custom tune, standalone, or dyno tune.

T3/T4
Requires ATP or aftermarket exhaust manifold depending on flange, custom downpipe, and custom intake. hp numbers vary as there are numerous different sizes, Trims, A/R's and such. Requires custom tune, standalone, or dyno tune. CTapp is also a good option for software.

GT2871R elim vs GT2X elim vs Stock K03
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/ISRSnuff/DSCN0945.jpg

17. Water/Meth Injection - Ok so the new big thing on here is water/meth injection. Basically it allows for a water/meth mixture to be shot into the intake manifold to lower temps and allow for more timing (such as running a race file on pump gas). The DevilsOwn and SnowPerformance kits are great. It is AWESOME but the effects could be dangerous if correction factors get too high. Check out Timing 101 near the bottom if you have no idea what Im saying

18. VAG-COM - This could be one of the most important things you get for your B5 as you start to mod. VAG-COM is a software made by Ross-Tech (www.ross-tech.com) that can Erase/Read CELs, Get rid of the seat belt chime, enable remote windows up/down, and most importantly, LOG! With VagCom you can log IATs, knock, CFs, RPMs, Engine Temp, blah blah... Here is the website to see more features B5 VAG-COM... Its about $220 from them for the full licensed verison or you can get an Ebay cable and get the lesser version for $20-100 for that cable

19. Suspension - Suspension is just as important as power. Being able to control your car is essential and coilovers or shock/spring combos allow for this... There is much controversy over which ones are the best. Stasis products are great. Their tracksports and motorsports are well known. The Bilstein PSS9s are also highly recommended. H&R is good quality. Vogtland and KW make fine products also. for the more frugal individuals the Eibach Pro-Kit coils, Koni Coils, and Stasis Streetsports get the job done! As for shocks and springs, Bilstein/H&R is most popular. also Koni shocks and eibach and neuspeed springs work well too. just put them together in the right combo.

20. Sway Bars - Neuspeed (29mm front, 19mm rear) are good. H-Sport's(35mm front, 22mm rear) are by far the best. either ones that you get, make sure you get the reinforcement bracket system. some that have run without them have cracked their subframe's.

21. Brakes - The simplest upgrade is an A8 312x25 rotor with Porsche caliper brackets(with special brackets from ecstuning or bira.org). If you do it right, you might not even need to bleed them. in the future. This fits with almost all wheels, even 16's. ECS tuning has some awesome Brake systems that you need to check out. also stainless steel lines are a cheap way to improve the braking feel. they don't expand like the OEM lines thus making the braking more firm and responsive.

21. ECU/Engine Codes - our car's generation is broken up into two different ECU's and three different Engines for the 1.8T.

1.8T AEB = 1997-1999
1.8T ATW = 2000
1.8T AWM = 2001

AEB is DBC(drive by cable) or a.k.a. nDBW(non drive by wire) meaning that there is an actual cable conected to the throttlebody. which is more easily tuned
ATW and AWM is DBW(drive by wire) means that the ECU, the computer, controls the throttlebody. harder to custom tune and can have a mind of its own sometimes..

AEB has the larger port head and 20 mm wrist pins.
"ATW is the bastard engine w/ the AEB bottom end and the small port AWM head" 94jedi.
The AWM has 19mm wrist pins, small port head and internal waterpump

22. TimingBelt - our engines are interference engines meaning that if the timing belt breaks, waterpump fails, or tensioners fail then the pistons slam into the valves bending them. and costing you big money to fix. audi suggest that the timing belt and such be replaced in 120k intervals. but experience has shown that that is false. they should be replaced in 60-70k intervals to be safe. some have gone longer but it's not worth the risk. the change is a strait forward process it just takes time due to the entire front end has to be removed. ECS Tuning and Purems sells the best kits for a worry free switch.. it's best to do all belts, rollers, tensioners, and waterppump at once since you already have the front end off. and this is also the best time to do a Snub mount that i mentioned earlier. takes 2 minutes to install during the TB process.

23. Headlights - there are two different sets of headlights for our cars. pre facelift's have two peice non projectors where as facelift's have one peice projector lights. 2000 and 2001 had HID's as a factory option. 4300k and you will know if you have them by looking at them while on. if not there is a ballast on the back of the headlight housing that has a lightningbolt on it. if you don't have HID's then no worries because they are a cheap and easy upgrade. provided you have projector housings. if you have 2 peicers then first upgrade to OEM projectors, Valeo Ecodes(the best), or even Depo Ecodes off of Ebay(but stay away from all other Ebay lights!). cqlight.ca is a popular place to get a good kit, link down below. also Ebay has some good kits provided you buy from a reputable seller.. OEM 4300k are supposed to have the most light output you can get. then there is the 6000-6500k which is the most pure white you can go. 8000-10000k are bluish and beyond that is purpleish. 3000k is a yellow and a poplular choice for foglights. All bulb numbers can be found here (http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=111598)

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LINKS


Performance Parts and Tuning:
034 Motorsport (http://www.034motorsport.com/)
Achtuning (http://www.achtuning.com/)
Advancedmotorsport (http://www.advancedmotorsport.com/)
APR (www.goapr.com)
ATPturbo (http://www.atpturbo.com/)
AWE-Tuning. (http://www.awe-tuning.com/)
Brembo Brakes (http://www.brembo.com/ENG)
Dahlback Racing (http://www.dahlbackracing.se/english/main.asp)
Dieselgeek (http://www.dieselgeek.com/)
ECS Tuning (http://www.ecstuning.com/)
Evoms (http://www.evoms.com/Splash.asp?nav=home&now=1%2F11%2F2007+8%3A03%3A53+PM)
GIAC (http://www.giacusa.com/)
Hoppenmotorsport (http://www.hoppenmotorsport.com/)
Kineticmotorsport (www.kineticmotorsport.com)
LLtek (http://www.lltek.com/)
Neuspeed (http://www.neuspeed.com/home.asp?ltype=ns_euro)
Oettinger (http://www.oettinger.com/)
PES-Tuning (http://www.pes-tuning.com/)
Purems (http://www.purems.com/)
RENN-ART (https://www.renn-art.com/Main.asp?make=1)
STaSIS (http://www.stasisengineering.com/)
Stratmosphere (http://www.stratmosphere.com/index.htm)
Stoptech Brakes (http://www.stoptech.com/)
Supremepowerparts (http://www.supremepowerparts.com/)
Ultrarev (http://www.ultrarev.com/storefront-c0.html)

OEM Parts:
http://www.germanpartsonline.com/
www.thepartsbin.com
www.autohausaz.com
www.4usedaudiparts.com
www.dadsauto.com
http://worldimpex.com/
http://www.car-part.com/
http://www.germanautodismantlers.com/ (http://www.germanautodismantlers.com/home.asp)
http://www.clairparts.com/

Misc:
1.8T Troubleshooting Guide (http://www.elitedubs.com/index.php/topic,988.0.html)-LOOK HERE IF YOUR CAR IS ACING UP.
B5 A4 External Differences (http://ctny.audiworld.com/mark/a4/diff/)
http://www.ross-tech.com/
VAG Tool Locator - Registry of individuals with Audi/VW VAG tools. (http://www.steve-hall.com/cgi-bin/VAG-Locator.pl)
Bentley Fault codes (http://www.bentleypublishers.com/tech/audi/audi.dtc.table.htm)
Decoding VAG fault codes (http://www.gerritspeek.nl/vag-com_foutcodeslijst-en.html#autos)
logging blocks with VAG-COM (http://www.ross-tech.com/vag-com/m_blocks/index.html)
cqlights.ca (http://www.cqlights.ca) - great HID kits!
www.hid-lights.com (http://www.hid-lights.com)

Acronyms-
Can all be found here (http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1350951#post1350951)


PEACE! [cool]

SoFresh
01-11-2007, 08:24 PM
No, thats perfect. Maybe put somethin in there about not asking questions until you have conducted a nice search first, due to bandwith, etc. etc.

SeanF
01-11-2007, 08:40 PM
nice job man.

Mods should delete our posts, sticky this to the top, and lock it so it doesnt fill with nonsense

sean1.8t
01-11-2007, 08:50 PM
well the B6 one is still going unlocked so i see no reason why this one can't stay open. that way people can post up anything they think should be added. im no Guru IMO btw.

it is improving every few minutes when i remember things to add.. im in the process of making things better on the link section

hey4
01-11-2007, 08:52 PM
you've done what I've been meaning to do and you did a great job. I think we should have the thread open as some questions will be asked in it and that way we can add stuff that seems too simple to us or something that hasn't been mentioned. Ie. BT= big turbo, most people don't know the acronym or what it stands for.

E Fresh
01-11-2007, 08:54 PM
Nicely done, also maybe include some links to the threads that are most commonly searched by new members[up]. For ex: the thread that has the best debate, feedback, and opinions on suspension. or chips, etc...

hey4
01-11-2007, 09:04 PM
haha, read the first line after the link section. [:D]..


and ill search and add some more links, and some of the more popular threads into it tomorrow. but this made me tired so it's bedtime.. im very interested in what the Mods will have to say about this

smartass!. You know that I'm too much of a guru and have it all memorized so there is no need for me to read it.silly[;)]

dkeypunch1.8t
01-11-2007, 09:09 PM
Sean1.8T, that is AWESOME that you wrote that up!! I am a noob to the forum,(converted from VW) and that answered almost all of my questions as far as what to do/not to do. As I read through a lot of posts, I've seen a lot of noobs get flamed for asking what may be simple questions to them, but something you guys have heard a million times. And that somewhat made me not want to ask questions. Thanks again, and GOOD JOB!

SoFresh
01-11-2007, 09:17 PM
Oh!! thought of something else.... mention aftermarket stereos, dash kits for the single/double din stereos, also include speaker wiring questions, subwoofer . etc. what can and cant work with the OEM headunit and aftermarket ones. That might help too. Also, possible mention aftermarket raceseats and how they need sliders/rails and custom diode mod. etc

Anthony
01-11-2007, 09:19 PM
Good job, thanks for stepping up, Sean. I'll talk to the others about making this a Sticky. [up]

benzteck
01-11-2007, 10:00 PM
Damn fine job, hopefully they will sticky this, maybe you could write to change your timing belt before modding if you have 75K+ miles on your newly purchased A4(this is my weekend project)

Audilover08
01-11-2007, 10:35 PM
Wow that is quite the explanation!! Impressive! Thanks for the time and effort this will deff help alot of people!

Euro
01-11-2007, 11:03 PM
Lets just hope poeple read it.

sticky it.

CSHO1.8t
01-11-2007, 11:50 PM
the dumbest question is the one you dont F***ing ask. if a person is too involved in this website that my friends and i like to call "the ZINE", and can't deal with new people who want to know and learn more about B5 AUDI'S then they need to chill. if someone posts a "dumb" question, dont respond to it. let other people do that. A lot of people on this site think they are hot shit, but guess what? they really arent. everyone who owns an audi is hot shit IMO. let people ask your so-called dumb questions and answer them with respect. And please, i hope nobody thinks im disrespecting them because im not.

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a4cefed
01-12-2007, 12:21 AM
Wett (Wetterauer) also makes a k03 and k04 chip. might wanna add that to the list.
nice job, way to step up. as time goes by and we get some good threads, maybe you can add the links in here that might help people out.

Ado
01-12-2007, 12:54 AM
nice job. i bet that took a while. they dont even need to do research now. you cover alot of very important stuff. this should be sent out via email to every nooby.

bassed
01-12-2007, 05:57 AM
Very well done and I suggest to keep information concise and organized that submissions etc... are handled in just one post or "Sticky" so comments and non relevant post are not possible. If it is worth adding we could put a poll post up and see if it gets voted in. Also I think the "Sticky" should be a little more inviting and say something more along the lines of "Please Read here before 1st post Most frequently asked questions can be answered by reading here first"

a4cefed
01-12-2007, 08:24 AM
N75 valve info

http://audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=113725

jbrentd
01-12-2007, 08:28 AM
One comment/question: Can you confirm that a chip is available for the 12v? I am unaware of one.

maxspeed
01-12-2007, 09:09 AM
there is no chip for the 12v, it uses the hitachi ecu instead of the bosch motronic and they never quite figured out how to crack it.

MultiAudis
01-12-2007, 09:17 AM
I may have missed it, and I know there was some TIP bashing at the top, but none the less, there is a decent group of us with TIP's, and I was wondering if we can add some things about the TIP chip from GIAC, as well as the limitations on modding (most believe K04 is biggest, while others say PES 28 with no problems)... I know it is not as desireable as manual, but it has its pros and cons like any other option, and has aspects of modification that are unique to it.

PS Thank you for doing this!!!!!

nizmosx
01-12-2007, 09:33 AM
hey guys what intake will give me the most power?? will i hear the blow off valve...

lovintheboost
01-12-2007, 09:41 AM
good job man

just a side note under "full gt28r" you have it listed as 400chp im guessing you left out the "S" may confuse some of the new guys who will, should be reading this

Audi_Sniper
01-12-2007, 09:42 AM
Good thread..[up]

Rosati
01-12-2007, 10:14 AM
[up] G'job Sean

We'll all add as we go along, etc

sean1.8t
01-12-2007, 11:08 AM
good job man

just a side note under "full gt28r" you have it listed as 400chp im guessing you left out the "S" may confuse some of the new guys who will, should be reading this

oops! good catch..


so whats the consensous on this? sticky or did i waste my time?

bellofello
01-12-2007, 01:16 PM
not only did you waste your time, you've wasted every soul on the internets time. assclown....












but seriously good job and patience. I'f I'm not too lazy I might write a 2.8 section for you or something like that. Or just put the link for the "2.8 after market parts" 5 page thread, it has most of the stuff.

rable rable rable....STICKY IT....rable rable rable

audisnapr
01-12-2007, 02:15 PM
nicely done sean - give the the tip and 2.8 guys a break though ;-)

also, there is no ELIM GT28rs - it's simply called the GTRS. I know the GTrs is based off the 28rs, but just so when the newbs go looking for the Elim GT28rs on ATP's website they don't end up accidentally buying the full GT28rs and expect it to bolt right up.

so...

ELIM GT2X
ELIM GTRS
and full GT28rs... among all the others of course.

Mr.Black
01-12-2007, 04:19 PM
nice. STICKY!!! that's the one AUDIA4_18T wrote for the b6's i refered to in the other post about noobs. someone should shoot him a PM thanks... oh and thank you sean!

Anthony
01-13-2007, 08:55 PM
Stuck, with some slight alterations to the title. Thanks guys, keep up the good work! [up]

LateraLex
01-14-2007, 10:52 AM
Nice contribution [up]

What's that acronym?
1.0bar - measurement of boost, about 14.5 psi
1.8TQMS - 1.8 turbo engine, Quattro, manual transmission, sport package
12v - 12 valve 2.8L (1996) only sold in US market.
710N - Popular upgrade to stock DV
AEB - Engine in 97 - 99.5. Desirable for BT applications due to big port head and forged rods.
AFPR - Adjustable Fuel Pressure Regulator
APR - Tuning company which sells a popular chip.
ATW - Engine in 2000's. Small port head and forged rods.
AWHP - All Wheel HP- if you're Quattro
AWM - Engine in 2001's. Small port head and cast rods.
BOV - Blow off valve
BT - Big turbo~ basically anything bigger than a ko4 turbo.
BTDC - Below Top Dead Center (Typically a number of degrees below TDC. Ignition timing is read in this format.)
CA - Control arms
CAI - Cold air intake
CC - Clear cornered (headlight housing)
CF - Carbon Fiber
CHP - Crank Horsepower. also BHP which is Brake Horsepower
D1S - Newer ballast/ bulb system for xenon lights
D2S - Older ballast/ bulb system for xenon lights
DBC / NDBW - Drive by cable / Non drive by wire, in 96-99.5's.
DBW - Drive by wire, in 00 & 2001's.
DMFW - Dual mass flywheel.
DP - Downpipe
DTS - Drivetrain stabilizer
DV - Diverter Valve
EBC - Electronic boost controller
Ecode - European standard headlight housing
ECU - Electronic control unit (cars computer)
FMIC - Front mounted intercooler
FPR - Fuel Pressure Regulator
GIAC - Popular chip manufacturer
HFC - High flow cat
HID - Xenons headlights
inHg - Inches of Mercury (Vacuum)
K03 - Stock turbo
K03 Sport - Used in 2000 and 2001's. 00 had a 3mm shaft, 01 had a 4mm shaft.
K04 - Upgraded turbo which uses the K03 housing
Limp - Happens when overboost is detected. The car will not boost over 8psi until Limp is cleared.
LWFW - Light weight flywheel.
M1 - Mobil 1 oil
MAF - Mass air flow sensor
MAP - Manifold Absolute Pressure (sensor that reads charge air pressure on ATW and AWM motors. Located on SMIC)
MBC - Manual boost controller
N75 - Solenoid valve which opens and closes to allow air pressure to the wastegate
PES - A tuner which makes a popular supercharger for the 2.8's
PSI - Pounds per square inch (boost)
s/w - Software
SMIC - Side mounted intercooler
Snub - Snub mount
TB - Timing belt
TBA - Throttle body alignment
TBB - Throttle body boot
TDC - Top Dead Center (When Pistons are at top of stroke and all valves are closed)
TIP - Turbo inlet pipe, or Tiptronic (automatic cars)
TP - Testpipe
TRE - Tie rod end
UNI - Unitronic, popular BT software
VAG - Volkswagen Audi Group (also used to talk about computer software needed to read codes)
WHP - Wheel HP
WOT - Wide open throttle, when the pedal is pressed all the way in

sean1.8t
01-14-2007, 09:45 PM
Stuck, with some slight alterations to the title. Thanks guys, keep up the good work! [up]

sweet! i tried like 4 different titles but couldn't get the right combo i felt was appropriate. but i like yours [up]

4ringAR
01-14-2007, 10:20 PM
sean, maybe you could add that post i had with all of the bulb numbers to the list.

edit: found.....
http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=111598

sean1.8t
01-14-2007, 10:40 PM
sean, maybe you could add that post i had with all of the bulb numbers to the list.

edit: found.....
http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=111598

done [up]

this thing could get pretty intense if we get a bunch of links like these in here. im thinking of adding the Suspension thread and the "post up your XXXX colored cars with wheels" threads

bellofello
01-14-2007, 11:07 PM
Hey Sean, add this thread under the bit when you talk about the 2.8's it has most of the stuff covered that can be done to the v6'ers. If you want of course :D
http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=110257

audisnapr
01-15-2007, 03:13 PM
sean - here's the link to all the differences in the B5's: http://ctny.audiworld.com/mark/a4/diff

1 ate T
01-17-2007, 10:43 AM
What the fack... I know mine wasn't as long, but it was never even considered for a stick.

I'm pretty sure it's cuz Evil-Audi pretty much hates me lol.. oh well, looks good

sean1.8t
01-17-2007, 04:24 PM
What the fack... I know mine wasn't as long, but it was never even considered for a stick.

I'm pretty sure it's cuz Evil-Audi pretty much hates me lol.. oh well, looks good

no that's not it(i don't think). but i asked about making yours a sticky in another thread and this is what ripple had to say about it:


Well lets just say the opinions are a little different. That thread has some very good information, lets say we start a new one and keep it away from discussion and just have it complete submission of technical information. The more that gets amassed the better it will be, and we will work to make it all nice and coherent.

Also, the Easter Egg sticky for some reason was lost during the migration, it was not taken down for any reason. Trying to figure that out, but we may just want to start a new one.

I'm all for this, this is my home forum. B5[a4]

StreetUrchin
01-22-2007, 12:00 AM
Just a heads up, I was running the GIAC X-Chip on my 2001.5 and the difference between that and the K04 + Hammer (which I am running now) is DEFINITELY more than just a hair. It is like night and day.

Just a bit of info [:D]

sean1.8t
01-22-2007, 09:11 PM
^^umm.. [confused] read it again more closely..

everything is already in there [cool]

StreetUrchin
01-22-2007, 09:29 PM
the 2001 model year has the ko3s(sport) so there for the GIAC-X chip with the ko3s will only be slightly less powered than the ko4 on basic GIAC programming.

This is what I misunderstood, my apologies.

sean1.8t
01-22-2007, 09:51 PM
[cool]...

AudiGuy666
01-26-2007, 01:00 PM
wow..

1 ate T
01-29-2007, 10:59 AM
no that's not it(i don't think). but i asked about making yours a sticky in another thread and this is what ripple had to say about it:

Naa I was jokin. No worries [up]

Plus I agree with Ripple... I started the thread with no intention of people arguing about opinions.

RYAN1.8
01-29-2007, 08:56 PM
This is what I like about this site; someone who took the time to break it down. It was well done, especially for new guys like me.

bellofello
01-29-2007, 09:15 PM
2.8 link still not added? It's the 7 (maybee 8) page thread titled, "2.8 after market parts". Pretty much every mod available for the 2.8 is on there.

Rosati
01-30-2007, 05:23 AM
First Timers:

PM me for a crash course/writeup on how to remove the Engine Head, you wont find much info on the procedure, besides the bentley

sean1.8t
01-30-2007, 07:08 AM
2.8 link still not added? It's the 7 (maybee 8) page thread titled, "2.8 after market parts". Pretty much every mod available for the 2.8 is on there.

i tried but im unable to edit the original post now.. im compiling a few new things as well as some links to some more popular and helpfull threads and going to get one of the admin's to edit them in

bellofello
01-30-2007, 07:33 AM
ahh ic, thanks. I've just been noticing a LOT of "which 2.8 exhaust should I get?" threads around, and I think all(most of em anyways) of the vids are on that thread

Hassmeister
02-07-2007, 03:01 PM
Forgot Techtonics for high flow cat, down pipe and exhaust. Quality stuff too and they have been in business longer than any you mentioned here.

kermac
02-12-2007, 05:49 PM
Appreciative comments from Down Under

Sorry if this duplicates a previous message. I'm new to AudiZine and I think my earlier reply to Sean's post went spinning off into the ether.

This is a great post - succinct, accurate and - like a Tom Clancy novel - a rattling good read. Full of good information for the novice and the old hand alike (I'm somewhere in between).

My only comment - not by way of correction but in order to raise other possibilities for the keen B5er - is to mention that if you want to upgrade your intercooler, the front mount is only one way to go. Aussie-spec B5s may be different to yours, but we have a very restrictive front bar which only permits either a very small (H X W) FMIC or a very thin one. Either way, a lot of the air flow is diverted by the front bumper and the whole thing is less than ideal.

One way around it is to replace the front bar with one off an S4 or an RS4. This adds at least $1,500-US to your investment, and - unlike most other performance mods you might bolt onto your B5 - is one you are unlikely to be able to recoup when you sell the car.

The alternative is to upgrade your side mount, or better still, to duplicate it on the other side. I know the battle still rages on the value of double side mounts - but think about it: in spite of the fact that installing a front mount would be a cheap and easy way of extracting (or rather sustaining) more power from a stock turbo engine, Audi has chosen not to do this on a roadgoing car since the S2 of the early 90s.

Why is this? Is it because they don't like FMICs? Or has their R&D shown them that DSMICs work better? Actually, as this link will tell you

http://forums.audiworld.com/a4gen2/msgs/589324.phtml

their intercooler research was undertaken by Bosch at an undisclosed cost, but estimated in the millions of something (Euros? Kroner? Pesos?).

This post from AudiWorld may not convince you that the DSMIC route is any better than bolting on a big FMIC. You may even prefer the look of the front mount, and that may be high on your list of priorities.

But if there's any truth in the tale, it's certainly worth considering.

Apologies for long-winded post. I think it's to do with my Irish ancestry........

onemoremile
03-20-2007, 03:28 PM
If you have a facelift A4 (years 1999.5 through 2001) then the S4 bumper should bolt right up to your stock bumper shocks. If you have an earlier A4 then you'll either need the bumper shocks from an S4 or a later A4. These are available from the dealer for about $90 each or on eBay for about $60-100 shipped for the pair. Check the forum classifieds first.

The following prices are dealership list and the price for parts sold to a body shop. Your prices may be better or worse depending on your relationship with your parts guys.

8D0-807-103-J-GRU.....S4 Bumper.........list 592.24....net 503.40
8D0-807-683-G-3FZ.....Grill..................list 46.90......net 39.87
8D0-807-345-L-GRU.....Grill..................list 59.85......net 50.87
8D0-807-346-L-GRU.....Grill..................list 59.85......net 50.87
8D0-807-283-A...........Guide................list 9.92.......net 8.43

subtotals.....list 768.76.....net 653.44


That last one (Guide) is the piece that attaches to the car that the sides of the bumper snap into. It is a price for one and won't be necessary for most of you.

An interesting note is that they list difference part numbers for the US and Canadian S4 bumper shocks. This is probably due to their different impact requirements.

onemoremile
07-09-2007, 07:39 PM
This is on a 1999.5 A4 Avant 1.8t AEB

Yup, tis true. It didn't cost anything and didn't take long. I followed the S4 keyless antenna thread (http://audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=145686) and took pics of my own. The stereo on the piano gave up it's cheapie wire radio antenna for the benefit of fine automobile modification.

Antenna reception was previously spotty at the end of my driveway which is only about 20 feet long. I could arm or disarm but couldn't maintain a solid enough signal to put the windows up. I had to be within 10 feet to work the windows. After adding the antenna I tried it across the street and it worked perfectly. I walked a house over and it still works. At the point it stopped working reliably it was about 75 feet away. It would do the windows from about 60 feet. Range will be best from the rear since that is where the antenna is. I'll play with front reception tomorrow at work.

The wire pulled down and about 4" stripped off the black striped cover.
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b397/onemoremile/IMG_4501.jpg


Spliced the wires and heat shrink wrapped the joint.
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b397/onemoremile/IMG_4502.jpg


Location of the dangling wire.
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b397/onemoremile/IMG_4503.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b397/onemoremile/IMG_4504.jpg


The wire routing around to the rear bumper support.
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b397/onemoremile/IMG_4505.jpg

Here the wire is shown tucked up and around the rear bumper support. I looped it through the little openings in the bumper and zip tied the end in place.
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b397/onemoremile/IMG_4507.jpg

sean1.8t
07-09-2007, 10:23 PM
i hope the n00bs are using this still. 'tis my legacy to the B5ers..

funny thing is, when i get on the zine these days i always go to the B5 section first. then the B6 section. i just love this place

onemoremile
07-27-2007, 11:27 AM
I'm adding Brett's old alignment post.


After a new rear wheel bearing and also seeing some inner tire wear on my front tires, I decided it would be a good idea to get my suspension aligned.

I don't live close to an Audi dealership so, that wasn't going to work out but, I have had some success with a local Firestone shop. Bear in mind, I'm only doing and alignment with them, no parts or intense labor required.

For anyone who hasn't been involved with aligning the A4 or it's quadra-link suspension, it's a bit of a tricky task. You have the 4 control arms on each side in the front and no actual camber adjustment points. The idea with the quadra-link setup is that the design creates a "virtual steering axis". It helps reduce torque steer and bump steer.

As I noted before, there are no individual camber adjustment point in the front of the car. There is however, adjustment to the entire camber setting in the front by sliding the engine cradle from left to right. What this does is even out your camber between both side in uniform increments. You subtract X degrees from one side and add X degrees to the other. This process requires you to remove the belly cover and then loosen 8 large bolts on the subframe:

http://www.hostdub.com/albums/turbo90awd/Camber.gif

Then once you have loosened these bolts, you are supposed to attach a special tool on to bolts 3 & 4.

http://www.hostdub.com/albums/turbo90awd/Cambertool.gif

This tools allows you to slowly push the engine cradle sideways in small increments. I ended up having the shop use a very large prybar. The desired result was achieved.

In terms on toe adjustment, unladen toe is adjusted by simply adjusting the lock nuts on the tie rods ends however, this car has a follow up toe value called "raised toe". In order to check for the "raised toe" you must install an adapter on the front suspension that will create a slight lift. This slight lift must be used when checking the unladen toe first. Once you have placed the unladen toe in spec while using the adapter (rough adjustment), you must then use the adapter to raise the suspension even higher (60mm) to see what the toe looks like during rebound instances. Your alignment software should be new enough to calcualte the difference between unladen toe and raised toe to see if it is within the factory spec (ie. 0.15 degrees +- 0.12 degrees on AWD cars). If the computer shows that this spec is out of range, you must adjust a nut that is located on the end of the tie rod (B):

http://www.hostdub.com/albums/turbo90awd/toe_S_adjust.gif

Before you adjust the nut, be sure to loosen the tie rod end from the wheel bearing housing via the horizontal nut (A). Once you have adjusted the nut, tighten (A) back to 45NM and then you can tighten (B) down to 7NM (62 In/Lbs). Then you must re-check the toe difference between unladen and raised to see whether you adjustment helped.

For the rear of the car, you have two adjustment points, toe and camber. There is a larger cam bolt/nut setup on the hinge point of the lower control arm and the wheel bearing housing. The bolt/nut has a travel that moves 180 degrees (rotates 90 degrees to the left or the right) this will adjust the rear camber. I had trouble with this because my car is lowered (H&R sport/Bilsteins). I ended up with -1.24 degrees of camber (tops of tires slightly tilted towards inside of wheel well). I'm guessing the lowered suspension caused this.

The rear toe is adjusted via the rear track link that goes from the rear of the wheel bearing housing to the subframe. Once again you have the cam bolt/nut combo. Even if the car is lowered you should still be able to get in spec on this one.

The last item to mention here is the order for adjusting each of these items. You should move in this order:

1. front camber
2. front toe
3. rear camber
4. rear toe

Always change camber before toe. camber will have a slight effect of the pull against the tie rods/track links.

I wasn't able to perform the raised toe testing and wish I could have. I can only recommend that you use an Audi dealer to perform your best possible alignment. I still have to replace my front control arms (clunking) and then I will go see an Audi dealer to get the suspension dead on center.

Hope this helps some of you.

onemoremile
10-15-2007, 01:11 PM
Rosati's excellent head removal writeup.

http://audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=154741

biketsai
12-28-2007, 10:33 PM
I just did the remote extension thing.
Do you think there is anything that would extend the range ALOT?
my friend has these 2 little antennas in his truck for his Viper alarm that can be locked all the way from school

loustylez
01-10-2008, 04:39 PM
addition to the FAQ per suggestion of good 'ole jimbo.

for any A4 2.8 owners, there's a thread that has a wealth of knowledge about available upgrades, suspension settings, spark plug reommendations and down the list. frankly, it's probably the most resourceful thread i've seen for just 2.8 info. you could consider it a 2.8 faq. hopefully there's enough keywords in that sentence to get picked up on a search ;)

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=110257&highlight=2.8+parts

#edit: and apparently this was added a year ago. oh well.

TKoze
01-24-2008, 09:04 PM
I did some research and found out for myself.
www.homelink.com will explain how to program the system for those who need help like I did.

onemoremile
02-03-2008, 07:22 PM
Audi's Driving School primer.

http://www.audiclubna.org/forms/Greybook-0206.pdf

BeatjunkieXL
02-29-2008, 12:17 AM
this thread is phukn amazing, and will probably refer to this for the rest of my cars life... thanks for the awesome write up

nyca4tq
03-17-2008, 06:02 AM
This FNG read it and got alot of answers..Thanks. I agree with the person that said, "the only stupid question is the one not asked." We dont all have lots of time to read all the pertinent info. Be patient. I bet those people who flame nooobs for not searching didnt always know everything....

My .02, Im going back to spectator couch now.

A3toB5
09-25-2008, 01:57 PM
whats the difference between facelift and pre facelift ?

black99.5a4
10-04-2008, 10:48 AM
face lift cars have 1 piece head lights, different fenders, different bumpers that have the fog lights in the bottom of the bumpers, also depending year of pre facelift car, they have the red/amber and white tails where as facelift cars all have red and white tails. Facelift cars also have retangle side markers, where as pre facelift cars are square.

facelift cars also got a new interior, looks a lot of the same, but the pieces are actually quite different, on certain things. biggest change is where the radio is, you get the cup holder and not the row of ugly buttons. there might be more but that is the most noticeable.

rear bumpers are also different, pre facelift wont fit a facelift from what i've read.

sean1.8t
10-22-2008, 12:08 PM
haha, i got a negative rep for my original post

alright who was it? [mad]

[:p]

Anthony
10-22-2008, 12:14 PM
You deserve props for this thread. [up]

sean1.8t
10-22-2008, 12:24 PM
ah thanks man!

props from the man himself. i am very flattered [up]

and you deserve props for this site... well, more than you already have [:p]

a4mafia(Red)
11-09-2008, 11:25 AM
sweet dude. props.....maybe add something about spool times on the different turbos?
its hard to find them online.

sean1.8t
11-09-2008, 08:52 PM
here's a decent one that was made on vortex awhile back. it lacks a few of the more popular turbo's. but you get the idea.

and boost threshold/ramp will always depend on supporting mods such as exhaust/intake and exhaust manifold/fmic/etc.. as well as elevation.

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m49/chaos92287/gt3540_spool.jpg

if any mods[jim] wants to move this info into the original post go right ahead [up]

hell, the whole turbo and tuning section should get revised. maybe i'll do that here in the near future

a4mafia(Red)
11-10-2008, 04:53 PM
SICK!!!!!!

A4-Achtung
11-12-2008, 01:31 PM
What's the difference between 2001 and 2001.5? How can I tell which one I have?

96QUATTRO
01-26-2010, 05:27 PM
very intersting section to read,such a great forum to read
thanks again

Bihlajamw
05-05-2010, 10:03 AM
Look at the manufacturing date when you open the driver door theres a sticker. I read on another site that the 2001.5 was anything built after October 2000 for the B5 S4 im not 100% sure they were accurate but that was also the only reference ive found. I'm at 05 2001 its that at the very end of the production period.

Bihlajamw
05-05-2010, 10:08 AM
here's a decent one that was made on vortex awhile back. it lacks a few of the more popular turbo's. but you get the idea.

and boost threshold/ramp will always depend on supporting mods such as exhaust/intake and exhaust manifold/fmic/etc.. as well as elevation.

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m49/chaos92287/gt3540_spool.jpg

if any mods[jim] wants to move this info into the original post go right ahead [up]

hell, the whole turbo and tuning section should get revised. maybe i'll do that here in the near future


Will a Stock K03 turbo with 3 inch down pipe and 3 inch exhaust be able to push 15 psi with just a tune and be a good daily drive?