Before and After fogs.....

[evoic]

A fellow 'ziner was kind enough to cut me a deal on some Hoen H11 bulbs, so I threw them in this weekend.

For the record, I tried every possible way to find a solution OTHER than removing the bumper for us non S-Liners......

No luck. The bumper comes off.

Anyways, as soon as I figure out the bulbs or track down the thread that has all of the sizes, I'll be changing the headlights and the DRL's as well.

I'm loving the new blues.
.
BEFORE
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g263/Evoic/Spoiler/FogsGTG001.jpg
.
.
AFTER
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g263/Evoic/Spoiler/FogsGTG006.jpg

[bhvrdr]

You dont have to take the bumper off to change fog bulbs. You can reach in the grilles and get at the socket...

http://www.audigeeks.com/forums/index.php?topic=359.0

cheers! Mike

[evoic]

Not with my hands / arms.

Also, if you can get the clip off of the bulb with one hand, without looking while stuffing it through the grill, I'll give you a crisp $50.

[Allan T]

Looks great

[Hondakiller]

I did my fogs without bumper removal as well...$50 goes to me, but not my arms I had an asian buddy comeover cuz there hands & arms are like little 8 year old boys, so I was in luck!

[evoic]

Originally posted by Hondakiller
I did my fogs without bumper removal as well...$50 goes to me, but not my arms

$50 for YOUR arm, One-Handed, WITHOUT looking..... [;)]


Originally posted by Hondakiller

I had an asian buddy comeover cuz there hands & arms are like little 8 year old boys, so I was in luck!



Bwaaa-Haaa-Haaa-Haaa ! ! !

[Hondakiller]

LOL $50 for my arm...damn that shit is cheep..I'l take 2.

[evoic]

Originally posted by Hondakiller
LOL $50 for my arm...damn that shit is cheep..I'l take 2.

Parts of your poor body would be permanently chaffed if you had ANOTHER arm..... [:p]

[Hondakiller]

I'm already use to walking around with 3 arms!

[evoic]

Originally posted by Hondakiller
I'm already use to walking around with 3 arms!

With your foot in your mouth half the time....you have to balance yourself SOMEHOW.

[parks853]

Yeah, looks good evoic. Let me know what you find out about the other bulbs. I am going to wait now till I get all the bulbs I need and change them all while the bumper is off for the clear corner mod.

I will do some searching later to see if I can find any other bulbs as well.

[grizzles]

For all bulb sizes use this site: Osram Sylvania Replacement Guide (http://www.sylvania.com/ConsumerProducts/AutomotiveLighting/LampReplacementGuide/)

I have Hoen all around and I would highly suggest getting the City Lights from them when you buy your highs and lows otherwise you will despise the yellow messing with your clean look.

Good plan on waiting till the bumper is off parks853, I had a helluva time trying to replace the low beams with these damn gorilla hands of mine.

[evoic]

Hey....Griz!.......Thanks for the post and the link.

Much appreciated.

Got any pics?

[Del@Creative]

Originally posted by evoic
Not with my hands / arms.

Also, if you can get the clip off of the bulb with one hand, without looking while stuffing it through the grill, I'll give you a crisp $50.

you can do it from under the car by taking the front half of the skid plate off plenty of room that way and you can see the bulb clip that way

[evoic]

Originally posted by Del@Creative
you can do it from under the car by taking the front half of the skid plate off plenty of room that way and you can see the bulb clip that way

That was my first thought after I realized I wasn't going to be able to go through the grill, actually.

Either:

A.) I forgot once I had the skid plate off and just kept removing stuff....[:D]

B.) I looked and didn't see what I wanted to see after the plate was off so I kept going.

[parks853]

Ok.. looks like our cars have 4 lights in the headlight assembly and the foglight below. We have the day time running light, city light, HID, and parking light. I am sure everyone knows that but I have never taken the time to see which lights are on when. I have HIDs and my car is programmed for Euro style lighting so there maybe some differences.

I looked on Osram Sylvania's website to get the numbers then matched them with Hoen lights.

One more thing.. Sylvania's site list our cars as having a high beam light.. I thought with HIDs they just raised up and we don’t have another bulb so not sure why their site lists a high beam bulb.

City Light (small bulb above day time running light) – on with the HIDs in the low or high beam position or when the parking lights are selected.
Hoen W5W (Osram – 2825, others 194) - http://www.hoen-usa.com/city2.htm

Day Time Running Light – When turned on and everything else is off.
Did not find these yet? they are 1156 who makes a xenonmatch or LED?
I remember someone using some white LED’s to replace one set of their lights
I found this tutorial (helps a little bit) - http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=93645&highlight=led
also looks like a 220ohm 5W resistor in parallel will get rid of the bulb indicator warning when using LEDs

Parking Lights – on with the headlights, parking light position, or turn signals
Euro style - turning signals only.
Chromium 7506 (might be some better options for this one and assuming the corners are going to be cleared) - http://www.hoen-usa.com/cr.htm

Fog Lights – HIDs on and the switch pulled out
Hoen H11-55W - http://www.hoen-usa.com/fog.htm

If any of these are wrong let me know. I just want a good reference to the lights and sizes.

[evoic]

For those without the HID's, I believe that you can run the H7 XenoMatch bulbs from Hoen as an alternative for that white / blue loooking effect.

[audia420turbo]

what fogs do u have in in the after pics? and im assuming the befores are stock?

[parks853]

I think he is using the hoen H11's

[evoic]

Originally posted by audia420turbo
what fogs do u have in in the after pics? and im assuming the befores are stock?

Read the very first sentence of the very first post. Then take your Ritalin, Captain A.D.D......[:p] [:p] [:p]

[John1.8T]

Yes your correct with the HID's and High beams. High/Low is the same thing - Halogen has 2 bulbs.

DRL's and Turn Signal Lights = 1156

City Lights = 194

Fog Light = H11

I got the Xenon Match headlights in as well without taking my grill off. I also have xenon match city light's and DRL's. Looks awesome.

[quattshot]

Originally posted by Hondakiller
I had an asian buddy comeover cuz there hands & arms are like little 8 year old boys, so I was in luck!

AHHHHHHHAHAHAHAHA Choke Choke....HAHAHBWAHAAAAAA

[John1.8T]

Here are a couple pics of my setup for lights:

Xenon White DRL's:
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y99/JBurgman/DSC02143.jpg

Xenon White City Lights:
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y99/JBurgman/DSC02145.jpg

Hoen Xenonmatch fogs:
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y99/JBurgman/DSC02151.jpg

Low Beam HID's and Xenonmatch Fogs on... usually the turn signal lights are on also but I VAG'ed them out... much cleaner look IMO:
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y99/JBurgman/DSC02148.jpg

I bought all of my bulbs from www.autolumination.com and the Hoen Xenonmatch fogs here. (http://www.hoen-usa.com/fog.htm)

[phillyquattro]

Can I get that $50. I put my hoens in without removing the bumper or without a small asian guys help. Although I can't remember if I looked or not, but fail to see the relevance of that since you can't see the damn things anyways, it's all just feeling around.

[John1.8T]

yeah you can get the bulbs for under $50... they aren't much at all.

[phillyquattro]

John,

I think you misunderstood me. I wasn't asking how much they were, I've already purchased and installed the highs, lows, fogs, and cities from hoen. I was referring to Evo's earlier post about the $50.


Originally posted by evoic
Not with my hands / arms.

Also, if you can get the clip off of the bulb with one hand, without looking while stuffing it through the grill, I'll give you a crisp $50.

[TAMApttl]

Originally posted by Hondakiller
I did my fogs without bumper removal as well...$50 goes to me, but not my arms I had an asian buddy comeover cuz there hands & arms are like little 8 year old boys, so I was in luck!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

[Coker Rat]

i just did the same for my halogen headlights...

H7's for the high and lows, H11's for the fogs (which i haven't had the time to install yet)

only thing is one of the bulbs arrived damaged and didn't work, hoen said they will replace it. otherwise i like the results!

[audia420turbo]

is the h11 not the bulb size? i looked at hoen usa im assuming its the h11 xenonmatch?

[audia420turbo]

john 1.8t pm sent

[PRESSURIZEDB7]

ok can someone post the vag codes to turn off the darn amber lights while the low beams are off? like john 1.8's pic for the hallogen headlights? how about the vag codes for turninng the fogs on while the city lights are on or just the fog lights alone.
thanks guys.

[evoic]

Yeah.....

I would LOVE a code that let me run my fogs with my regular lights while using the auto button instead of constantly having to remember to turn them off when I get out.

Possible?

[alex310]

I love your bulbs, they look like real XENON's. My fogs are accual Xenon's and look real close to yours.http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b179/alex310/CIMG0191.jpg

[parks853]

Originally posted by audia420turbo
is the h11 not the bulb size? i looked at hoen usa im assuming its the h11 xenonmatch?

H11 is the bulb size and the xenonmatch is the series. It is the same wattage as the stock bulbs. It is the one you want. It is also what evo has pictured above in the before and after pics.

[parks853]

Originally posted by PRESSURIZEDB7
ok can someone post the vag codes to turn off the darn amber lights while the low beams are off? like john 1.8's pic for the hallogen headlights? how about the vag codes for turninng the fogs on while the city lights are on or just the fog lights alone.
thanks guys.

If you have the newer vag software you dont really need to know the code. It has a helper pop-up window. You switch from USA to Euro code for the lights. But here this maybe some help:

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=75092&highlight=vag+codes


Yeah.....

I would LOVE a code that let me run my fogs with my regular lights while using the auto button instead of constantly having to remember to turn them off when I get out.

Possible?

Only vag-code is to get rid of the parking lights and the fogs will work with high beams.

[devenyi]

John1.8t, YGPM

[John1.8T]

responded to all PM's [;)].

Just for the record....

I ordered the #194 Super Xenon bulb for the parking lights http://autolumination.com/festoon_before_after.htm

and the 1156 Silver Chrome DRL's: http://superlumination.com/images/auto_bulbs/silver_wm.jpg

Just scroll down past all of the LED stuff...

[parks853]

I also posted all the info for the part numbers from hoen.com. You can get all the part there except the DRL's. Might want to get them from the site above.. ^^^

[devenyi]

Just ordered everything & can't wait to get them all in

[Coker Rat]

Just a note for those of you with halogens thinking of upgrading the bulbs. Buy new DRL's or city bulbs or w/e they're called. (you know, those little ones that are always on no matter what)

Because.... it will look lame with those stock while your lows and highs are blueish (IMO).

I wish I would have ordered them all together.

[sescoinc]

I want to be able to just drive with my fogs but i cant because my orange side marker in the headlight is on also. Is there some type of relay i need to change in order to just have fogs?

[SteveMondragon]

I have some prototype LED H11 bulbs that they were testing on my car. Color matches the HID headlights perfectly but we are currently working on the voltage and load issues with the car detecting the bulb. I'll try to snap some pics later of it.

[parks853]

Originally posted by sescoinc
I want to be able to just drive with my fogs but i cant because my orange side marker in the headlight is on also. Is there some type of relay i need to change in order to just have fogs?

yes... use vag-com to turn it off.

please check here:

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=105668

[John1.8T]

Originally posted by sescoinc
I want to be able to just drive with my fogs but i cant because my orange side marker in the headlight is on also. Is there some type of relay i need to change in order to just have fogs?

Currently there is no way to run JUST the fogs and no headlights. When your parking lights are on, you can pull the switch out for the fogs but they do not go on.

Check the FAQ Thread for the VAG codes to get rid of the turn signal lights when the headlights are on.

[parks853]

Originally posted by SteveMondragon
I have some prototype LED H11 bulbs that they were testing on my car. Color matches the HID headlights perfectly but we are currently working on the voltage and load issues with the car detecting the bulb. I'll try to snap some pics later of it.

What is the current draw of your H11 LED light? What is the minimum that the ECU expects to see? That is going to be a bit though. The fogs are 55W.

I would assume:

I(minimum ecu) = I(LED) + I(dummy load)

R = P/I(dummy load)^2

or R = P/(I(minimum ecu) - I(LED))^2

I would check with the car's electrical system fully loaded down, and when it is not loaded at all.

fully loaded would test the dummy load draws enough current to keep the light warning off.

not loaded at all will test your dummy load for a correct wattage rating.

I'm at work and did that really quick and was intrrupted a few times. let me konw if that is correct.

o yeah.. could you use a decade box to determine the minimum ecu current? Hopefully one that can handle 55W.

[Tyler]

there are sone great links in here thanks to all above for the great info I was wondering what bulbs the fogs and city lights were..

[parks853]

Originally posted by Tyler
there are sone great links in here thanks to all above for the great info I was wondering what bulbs the fogs and city lights were..

I ordered all new lights for the front of the car. I will get them in one of these days. Might be a little while since I am clearning the corners at the same time. I will be taking pics.

[AAAA4]

who did you order them from?

[parks853]

I ordered the xenonmatch fogs from hoen. I got all silver coated bulbs from www.autolumination.com. The turn signals blink amber, and the rest are bright white or super white.. cant member what they call them.

[devenyi]

I finally installed my DRLs and city lights, and am very pleased with the results...
There is zero chance of my hand fitting in to change the fog bulbs, so I'll have to find someone who can

[Tyler]

I ordered all new lights for the front of the car. I will get them in one of these days. Might be a little while since I am clearning the corners at the same time. I will be taking pics.

you have that advantage over me its 15 degree's and snowing here in Wisconsin. even if i work in a gradge its colder than he11. I have a bunch of stuff to put on my car and its just sitting in a box at this time[mad]

[enigma1406]

Originally posted by devenyi
I finally installed my DRLs and city lights, and am very pleased with the results...
There is zero chance of my hand fitting in to change the fog bulbs, so I'll have to find someone who can Dang, I have big hands too. I'll have to get one of my friends to do it.

[B7er]

I saw that you can put your hand through the little opening by the foglight, but i have a 3.2 and there's no opening! Is there a way to take off that cover? my car is s-line as well.

I have stock xenon headlights, and i wanna change my lame DRL's...they're yellow and they look so lame during the day...
What's the exact name of the bulbs for the DRL's? I looked at autolumination.com but i couldn't find the ones you guys have....

[DrewBo]

do non s-liners have to take the bumper off to access the city lights?

I know i have to take the bumper off to install my fogs (i tried without and cut the hell out of my hands) but was not sure about the city lights that just came in

[parks853]

Originally posted by B7er
I saw that you can put your hand through the little opening by the foglight, but i have a 3.2 and there's no opening! Is there a way to take off that cover? my car is s-line as well.

I have stock xenon headlights, and i wanna change my lame DRL's...they're yellow and they look so lame during the day...
What's the exact name of the bulbs for the DRL's? I looked at autolumination.com but i couldn't find the ones you guys have....

I can't link you there past this:

http://autolumination.com/1156_1157.htm

scroll over half way down. It will say really big:

silver chrome

they are the 1156 bulbs. there is a dropdown menu there. Pick silver super white for the DRL, and silver amber for the clear corner.

[parks853]

Originally posted by Bochenek
do non s-liners have to take the bumper off to access the city lights?

I know i have to take the bumper off to install my fogs (i tried without and cut the hell out of my hands) but was not sure about the city lights that just came in

pretty sure someone put the city light or DRL in without removing anything. search for LED or DRL or both. Soemone installed a LED for there DRL's.

[John1.8T]

Someone made a write-up for the fog light removal on an S-Line on AW (I think it was SteveMondragon?) but I'm too lazy to find it.

You dont have to remove your headlight or bumper to get your city lights or DRL's out. There is a cap on the side of the headlight that you can take off to reach in and pull out the bulbs. Here is a pic of the cover off if it helps at all - i had a bunch more for a write-up but apparently i deleted them when i gave up on the LED project:

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y99/JBurgman/DSC01833.jpg

That is the city light... See the grey ballast inside? Thats the DRL ballast... turn that to the left and it will pull out. Bulb swap is very simply and will only take a couple minutes.

[B7er]

This will probably sound pretty stupid to most of you.

What the hell is the differece between the city lights and DRL's?

I know that DRL's the one that's on when everythingelse is off. i can turn it off/on with a little knob by the steering wheel.

And which one's the city light??

TIA!

[John1.8T]

The city light is the small light in the upper corner of the DRL housing.

Its the one that i pulled out on that picture.

go turn on your parking lights and look at your headlights... you'll see a small bulb lit up in the middle - thats the city light.

[B7er]

i have a 3.2 s-line, so there is no opening next to the fog lights...so how can i swap out the fog bulbs?

[Raj]

i have a 3.2 s-line, so there is no opening next to the fog lights...so how can i swap out the fog bulbs?

the easiest way by far for the s-lines is to remove the skid plate from underneath the engine.. dont go under your car while its on a jack.. just swing by any muffler or tire shop and ask them to throw the car up on the hoist.. then its about 10 screws and the plastic skid plate pops right off giving you clear access to the bulbs... i did this last weekend... gave the garage manager $20 bucks and one of the guys did the install for me... took less than 10 minutes all in

[Coker Rat]

thanks for resurrecting this dead ass thread

[B7AudiA4]

Jeff.. You owe me $50 And crispy one too. =)
I did it practically with my eyes closed too.

[Quattro]

hey john 1.8t can you show me some pics of your headlights from underneath and some shots of the hid you got? thanks!
-randy

[windextor]

ok im still not sure I follow which bulb is for the drl's...is it the 1156 (same as turn signal)...

[Boris0126]

Is there some type of LOCK behind the foglight if i try to do it from the front grilles and not taking off the bumper? I have 2007 A4. I try to twisted clockwise but it is damm hard and i can't turn it and i am scared to break it. Let me know ASAP thank you.

[Six Speed Turbo]

Light look good!

[e-baby]

can anyone gives me some words of encouragement. i'm doing this right now on my non s-line and one side the wire won't come off the bulb and on the other side the bulb won't even twist i don't know if ill twist too hard if ill break it. my hands are too big for this i think.

[e-baby]

phewww i know this is an old thread but i just finished swapping out my fog for ziza platinum white bulbs and they look amazing i love it. all said and done it wasn"t that hard replacing them

[quincyuk]

I did my fogs without bumper removal as well...$50 goes to me, but not my arms I had an asian buddy comeover cuz there hands & arms are like little 8 year old boys, so I was in luck!


<---------------asian boy here, i have tiny hands! who wants there fogs removed???

[chaze]

<-- Seeing this thread for first time due to resuscitation. No need to stress over getting your hands in there. Simply pop off the fog light grille with two tabs, and from there I took out the only three screws that attach the lamp assembly and from there it is cake to detach wiring harness and extract bulb. Worthless without pics, I know. Sorry.

[DrewBo]

<---------------asian boy here, i have tiny hands! who wants there fogs removed???

I'll pay you $50 to come to Detroit and put mine in for me [:D] They've been in my garage for 2 years now [:o]

[snake134]

I'll pay you $50 to come to Detroit and put mine in for me [:D] They've been in my garage for 2 years now [:o]

and while you're here, do mine...presuming i have the car by then

[wflan]

any advice on where to get the Xenonmatch bulbs in Canada? Hoen's website resaler wanted $25 for shipping (for two bulbs!!) for a total of over $60...

[SLC_A4]

noob question here, but when following the link to the Hoen website you provided, it takes you to the Hoen H11 bulbs. Is it best to contact them if i wanted to order blue Hoen H11 bulbs? If someone has the link to blue Hoen H11 bulbs link it up....

[Slo.Mo.Shun.]

Holy thread resurrection !!!

Guys, for those 60$ you can throw in there H11 HIDs, for a perfect match with the top.

[italia8287]

A fellow 'ziner was kind enough to cut me a deal on some Hoen H11 bulbs, so I threw them in this weekend.

For the record, I tried every possible way to find a solution OTHER than removing the bumper for us non S-Liners......

No luck. The bumper comes off.

Anyways, as soon as I figure out the bulbs or track down the thread that has all of the sizes, I'll be changing the headlights and the DRL's as well.

I'm loving the new blues.
.
BEFORE
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g263/Evoic/Spoiler/FogsGTG001.jpg
.
.
AFTER
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g263/Evoic/Spoiler/FogsGTG006.jpg

so i understand how you dont have your parking ambers on, but how dont you have the city lights on too?? i love the look of only fogs!