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bOOOOstedAudi
10-26-2006, 09:58 PM
ok I already know who will win from a rool but I want to know what the rest of the people think.

Aliel
10-26-2006, 10:16 PM
I might have to go with the SC VR6. Those cars are no joke.

And there is no quattro advantage in this situation its fwd vs fwd.

GTI is lighter and its putting down about 315 chp and the GTRS is putting down the same ammount and it's heavier.

My vote goes to the GTI.

bOOOOstedAudi
10-26-2006, 10:19 PM
wel from what ive seen. ive have smoke 3 diff sc

Aliel
10-26-2006, 10:21 PM
Then in that case I have to give you props.

The GTRS Elim turns out to be better than I thought.

BranCKY3
10-26-2006, 10:22 PM
bOOOOOOsted make some videos and post them!

b00st
10-26-2006, 10:39 PM
bah its the S/C R32s you have to watch for.

BranCKY3
10-26-2006, 10:42 PM
Originally posted by b00st
bah its the S/C R32s you have to watch for.

Ahh I wish someone around here had one, I'd love to see one in action. VF's base kit only pushes 320hp though... I wanna race one!

bOOOOstedAudi
10-26-2006, 11:11 PM
Originally posted by b00st
bah its the S/C R32s you have to watch for.
NOW I HAVE LOST ALL REST FOR R32. IVE HAVE SMOKED THE SC ONE BUT THE ONE I WAS REALLY SUPRISED ABOUT WAS BEATING THE STAGE 1 EIP TURBO. AND YES I AM YELLING

itsdarrow
10-26-2006, 11:24 PM
ps i raced a supercharged r32, it is fast but not as fast as my gtrs. from a roll, 40-130 i got a car and a half, i am also quattro B6

bOOOOstedAudi
10-26-2006, 11:26 PM
Originally posted by itsdarrow
ps i raced a supercharged r32, it is fast but not as fast as my gtrs. from a roll, 40-130 i got a car and a half, i am also quattro B6
i rest my case even more

AudiA4_20T
10-27-2006, 03:45 AM
315chp on a S/C VR6? Your underestimating I know guys putting down 300whp on them

itsdarrow
10-27-2006, 06:54 AM
300whp on pump?fwd? what stage supercharger, thats pretty good #'s for the kits that are out there, even on race. The r32 SC i raced had no cats and an exhaust, they are fast but those cars are just as heavy, also the awd they have sucks. a fwd vr6 will have a prob hooking up with 300 to the front, so if you are awd you should smoke him. your making more hp(on race) and awd so there should be no copetition from a stop

XipeR
10-27-2006, 07:35 AM
the VR6SC will wreck you if they are pushing anything more then a stage1 SC. As AudiA4_18T said, your underestimating them, a lot.

EVIL-AUDI
10-27-2006, 07:37 AM
Then again you claim to have beaten Aston Martin's as well so....

maxspeed
10-27-2006, 08:09 AM
blown vr6's dont **** around

BranCKY3
10-27-2006, 08:28 AM
Originally posted by XipeR
the VR6SC will wreck you if they are pushing anything more then a stage1 SC. As AudiA4_18T said, your underestimating them, a lot.

It really all depends what they're running. Saying it's a supercharged VR6 is like saying bOOOOsted has a turbo A4... no details - could be a k03 could be a GTRS. What kit is the VR6 running?

b00st
10-27-2006, 09:26 AM
well a 2.8L VR6
SC
stage 1 = 280CHP
stage 2 = 305CHP

R32
stage 1 = 320CHP
Stage 2 = 350CHP

i know the guys @ dubwerks have a stage 2 R32 and that pushed 300+whp not sure what octane...rich did tell i just can't remember. the other guy who works there has a stage 1.
i think stage 1 was around 270whp.

AElucky83
10-27-2006, 11:54 AM
a buddy of mine has a turbo VR6 Golf...no aftermarket internals..stock motor...runs 12.8's because of no traction but at 127mph...so from a roll ud get eaten alive.. his brother Haris who people rave about on VW Vortex pulled low 12's with a AWD Corrado with also a similar setup..he now has a fully built R32 motor with a GT4071R turbo which sadly people on Vortex worship lol...i never understand people like that

AElucky83
10-27-2006, 11:55 AM
however the same VR6 Golf was originaly supercharged when it was forst purchased and I was not impressed at all...

turbow8
10-27-2006, 01:19 PM
Originally posted by maxspeed
blown vr6's dont **** around

the turbo'd ones are the ones you really need to look out for, the sc ones are nothing special

k0mpresd
10-27-2006, 05:18 PM
this is an awesome thread

mk3 vr6 w/ a gt35r

http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=2470106

itsdarrow
10-27-2006, 05:31 PM
Originally posted by EVIL-AUDI
Then again you claim to have beaten Aston Martin's as well so....

whos the directed to?



the r32 i raced deff wasnt a stg2 SC, but its still no chump. like i said before if you got a vr6 FWD putting 300 hp down on street tires, and you have a gtrs AWD and you go from a stop, the vr6 driver would have to get an amazing launch to beat you. the audi deff has the edge. im not underestimating their power, but i know we make good power too. its a good race but the gtrs should come out on top.
now turbo vr6s, r32 are a whole diffrent story. They

EVIL-AUDI
10-27-2006, 05:41 PM
Directed to the originator of the thread who claimed that previously. If you didn't say it, then why worry.

bOOOOstedAudi
10-27-2006, 06:48 PM
dont worry at all evil. i was also very suprised. i know i need a videos to prove it but i have no reason to make it up. i sure there are cars you have beaten that you didnt think you would. you also have to remember that my car is gutted from front seat back

bOOOOstedAudi
10-27-2006, 06:49 PM
im also fwd

killa
10-27-2006, 07:15 PM
Originally posted by k0mpresd
this is an awesome thread

mk3 vr6 w/ a gt35r

http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=2470106

Ian, that turbo came out of my car. 2Liter 16v as seen here:

http://www.mswanson.com/~wiz/BAJANBOOST/KILLA%20-%20001.jpg

Made 507whp with stock fuel pumps and lines then couldn't make more because it just couldnt supply enough fuel.[hail]

again, 3 years ago. Sold it for $800 since it has like 3-4 miles on it and some dynotime.[:D]

killa
10-27-2006, 07:16 PM
Originally posted by turbow8
the turbo'd ones are the ones you really need to look out for, the sc ones are nothing special

There's 2 local turbo VR's that have put down over 800whp on some killa supplied boost. Some of you may already know, and i'm not talking about C&M in NY, their race car has gone over that[:)]

bOOOOstedAudi
10-27-2006, 07:31 PM
800whp is insane

k0mpresd
10-27-2006, 08:02 PM
Originally posted by killa
Ian, that turbo came out of my car. 2Liter 16v as seen here:
i never knew that...small world

got any more 35r's for $800? :p

TwentyValveB5
10-27-2006, 09:19 PM
Where on earth are you getting your SC'd VR6 numbers from?
From AWE's website:
"Stage 1 power output is an astonishing 255hp and 233ft/lbs torque as measured at the crank. Verified on our own Mustang dyno."
Maybe you're looking at the 24V applications -- MK3 and early MK4 are 12V -- 172hp stock.
Stage 3 SC (different pullies and FMIC) was still just rated at 305chp (though I don't see that option anymore).

itsdarrow
10-27-2006, 10:24 PM
^ good point. did they have #'s for the r32 kits?

$teady$upreme
10-27-2006, 11:28 PM
I don't think they are referring to the AWE kit.

98a4
10-28-2006, 01:33 PM
I'm bolt on and stay dead even with a 24v VF charged car with the works. Stock 12v vr's are easily beaten by chipped 1.8t's even full bolt ons are unlikely to win.

killa
10-31-2006, 08:35 AM
Originally posted by k0mpresd
i never knew that...small world

got any more 35r's for $800? :p

No lol, i just wanted to get rid of it at the time to test other stuff.