Aem 2.0T Intake

[Goped220]

Is anyone using this Intake. They claim 12 horse power gain?

[nadroj81]

you sure it doesn't say -12 hp? The carbonio is really the only intake i have seen that draws air from outside of the engine bay.

WHy do you want a cone system that is placed right above a super hot turbp?

[gods_kitchen]

I'm wondering if GruppeM has application for our car...

[Fobia]

where is the AEM intake?

[Goped220]

http://www.namotorsports.net/detail.cfm/part_cd/AE21-496C

[RE5PECT]

uhh thats for teh a3 and mk5 2.0Ts its not for our motors....

looks kinda cool tho i think

[evoic]

I think EvoMS has the best product on the market for the A3's.

I have a couple of local A3 guys that are running the EvoMS and the new K&N (not out yet for the general public) and I think the EvoMS looks and sounds like sex.

[Coker Rat]

Originally posted by evoic
I think EvoMS has the best product on the market for the A3's.

I have a couple of local A3 guys that are running the EvoMS and the new K&N (not out yet for the general public) and I think the EvoMS looks and sounds like sex.

need them to make one for the B7 A4, need more mods for our cars! Everyone's got a carbonio...

[nadroj81]

Originally posted by Coker Rat
need them to make one for the B7 A4, need more mods for our cars! Everyone's got a carbonio...

Hopeully people buy it b/c of the design. A simple cone intake is not going to provide any more power, if anything it will provide less.

The stock airbox/intake is designed very weel. The carbonio provides some advatage though.

[Alipor]

Originally posted by nadroj81
Hopeully people buy it b/c of the design. A simple cone intake is not going to provide any more power, if anything it will provide less.

The stock airbox/intake is designed very weel. The carbonio provides some advatage though. I think the filter is where all the gains are made, if you look at the carbonio it is basically a stockish box with a better, less restrictive filter. It does use the stock fresh air inlet which is nice.

[John1.8T]

after looking at that i'm sure someone could make one...

if you tried to mount that on the A4 2.0T obviously it would be totally wrong but with the right tools and materials a custom one wouldn't be too difficult [;)].

[nadroj81]

Originally posted by Alipor
I think the filter is where all the gains are made, if you look at the carbonio it is basically a stockish box with a better, less restrictive filter. It does use the stock fresh air inlet which is nice.

there are 2 parts to the CAI, cold air and amount of air.
carbonio takes cold and and has good flow.
the aem might have good flow but its basically taking hot air from the engine compartment, or the filter is near the ground and then picking up lots of debris and water (when its rainign)

[4-tified]

Caution: Opinion expressed here. [:D]
The only way any of these systems works is by freeing up power spent by the engine "drawing" in the air.
Breathing through a 1/4" diameter straw vs. a 1" diameter straw while trying to run a marathon helps to demonstrate why easier access to breathe in the air helps improve power. By not wasting as much power on trying to breathe you allow that power to be output by the engine.

Yes heat is the enemy of power, but the 2.0T has dual side mount intercoolers that work pretty well, especially once moving.

The Carbonio is nothing more than a freer flowing air filter. It uses the same box and "cold air" intake as the OEM system.

[Svart]

i cant wait for something else to come out for our A4's so I can get rid of the pos carbonio!

[nadroj81]

Originally posted by Svart
i cant wait for something else to come out for our A4's so I can get rid of the pos carbonio!

I'd like to see you back up that claim. the only pos part is the fitment. It does it job and flows a lot more air.

[Fobia]

or is it..
http://www.mjbmotorsport.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/Log-Carbonio-Stock-Airflow-1.jpg

courtesy of www.mjbmotorsport.com

[Svart]

Originally posted by nadroj81
I'd like to see you back up that claim. the only pos part is the fitment. It does it job and flows a lot more air.

I know it allows more air flow. I'm saying pos in regard to the fitment of the filter itself (only one bolt holds it in place on the bottom while there is a slight gap on the top half of the filter where dust gets through) and the green CF and peeling heat shield...

[4-tified]

Originally posted by nadroj81
I'd like to see you back up that claim. the only pos part is the fitment. It does it job and flows a lot more air.

Yes, that seems to be the case.
However, in this case ANY freer flowing air filter would offer the same benefit compared to the Carbonio.
Thus, the cost of the Carbonio is mainly due to materials and overall cosmetic look and fitment.
And since the look goes bad and the fitment isn't so great, the claim that it might be a "pos" almost backs its self up.

More opining based on how combustion engines work: [:p]

Just because a filter can flow more air does not then mean more power is produced.
If the OEM intake and filter are sufficient to allow the engine to fully fill the cylinders with air to it's designed capacity, then having an intake of filter that can flow "more" air changes nothing.
If the engine needs 1 quart of air within .1 seconds, and it can get that with the stock box and filter, having a filter than can flow 2 quarts per .1 seconds means nothing in terms of ability to flow more more.

However, if it takes less power to draw in that
1 quart of air within .1 seconds with an intake or filter that flows that air easier, then the engine has less loss in the process of "breathing" or "pumping" air through it. Reducing "pumping loss" results in the engine outputting that power to your wheels instead of using the power in it's own combustion process.

Being able to draw in air easier (intake) and expel used air easier (exhaust) is where I believe most typical power gains come from, in regard to simple intake and exhaust mods.

When you up the boost you, in effect, increase the engines abilty to take in MORE air. So, at a certain point in tuning, when you are able to increase the engines ability to pump more air in and out, you also need freer flowing intake and exhaust to maximize that tuning's potential.
Forced induction is a great way to increase an engines air capacity without physically altering the cylinders demensions. Forcing air into a fixed sized cavity (cylinder), effectively increases that cavity's capacity.

[nadroj81]

i would rather have the carbonio just due to the fact it "Segregates" itself from the engine and turbo. The aem is just a cone placed next to the turbo. I would imagine the intake temperatures at the filter level are lower on the carbonio which increases the efficency of the ICs per say.

[4-tified]

Originally posted by nadroj81
i would rather have the carbonio just due to the fact it "Segregates" itself from the engine and turbo. The aem is just a cone placed next to the turbo. I would imagine the intake temperatures at the filter level are lower on the carbonio which increases the efficency of the ICs per say.

Yeah, that's a main concern with the 2.0T in the A4.
I can't even believe that Audi designed the airbox to sit where it does, right next to the turbo, exhaust manifold and all that heat. There is plenty of room on the other side of the engine.

This is one of the most compact and convuluted stock intakes I've seen in any car.