OEM K04 S4 vs. 700whp ASP GT28 3.0 S4 video

[Das General]

lol there hasnt been a street race accident in our area for as long as ive been alive. he doesnt race much either.

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/new-...2IOSE0JMIKMBO8

http://www.nbc30.com/news/17212896/d...s=har&psp=news

http://www.wtnh.com/Global/story.asp?S=8857953

http://www.3si.org/forum/f1/another-...82/index2.html



So yeah, all in CT. So you are wrong. But that is me just proving you wrong. Unless of course you were born in the week or so, which I am beginning to think you were! I "street race" plenty myself, so I won't be hypocritical in that aspect.

[AMC]

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/new-...2IOSE0JMIKMBO8

http://www.nbc30.com/news/17212896/d...s=har&psp=news

http://www.wtnh.com/Global/story.asp?S=8857953

http://www.3si.org/forum/f1/another-...82/index2.html



So yeah, all in CT. So you are wrong. But that is me just proving you wrong. Unless of course you were born in the week or so, which I am beginning to think you were! I "street race" plenty myself, so I won't be hypocritical in that aspect.

none of them in my area. all in new haven. where people die everyday of gang violence.

[Das General]

So just because they aren't in your area, doesn't mean it can't happen?

You really are dumb aren't you?

[AMC]

So just because they aren't in your area, doesn't mean it can't happen?

You really are dumb aren't you?

your a hipocrite arent u. you race dont u?

[AMC]

yo deb u goin to H20?

[generationjdm]

Just because the car made 700whp doesn't mean it was making anywhere near that here, and last i check gt2860 were only good in the neighborhood of 700chp not 900+chp to make 700whp.. So if the car has nitrous then im guessing they used it on the dyno to hit the 700whp mark.. Clearly he wasn't in the 700whp range anywhere near that in this street race...

[Das General]

your a hipocrite arent u. you race dont u?

lol you really are an idiot. I told you in that post that I race, and that if I said it was bad I would be a hypocrite. Geezzz you are dumb.


Here, because you are mildly retarded I will post my old response and highlight the areas that you don't understand.

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/new-...2IOSE0JMIKMBO8

http://www.nbc30.com/news/17212896/d...s=har&psp=news

http://www.wtnh.com/Global/story.asp?S=8857953

http://www.3si.org/forum/f1/another-...82/index2.html



So yeah, all in CT. So you are wrong. But that is me just proving you wrong. Unless of course you were born in the week or so, which I am beginning to think you were! I "street race" plenty myself, so I won't be hypocritical in that aspect.

[Das General]

Just because the car made 700whp doesn't mean it was making anywhere near that here, and last i check gt2860 were only good in the neighborhood of 700chp not 900+chp to make 700whp.. So if the car has nitrous then im guessing they used it on the dyno to hit the 700whp mark.. Clearly he wasn't in the 700whp range anywhere near that in this street race...

I would have to agree. Still a very nice and worked car.

[AMC]

lol you really are an idiot. I told you in that post that I race, and that if I said it was bad I would be a hypocrite. Geezzz you are dumb.


Here, because you are mildly retarded I will post my old response and highlight the areas that you don't understand.

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/new-...2IOSE0JMIKMBO8

http://www.nbc30.com/news/17212896/d...s=har&psp=news

http://www.wtnh.com/Global/story.asp?S=8857953

http://www.3si.org/forum/f1/another-...82/index2.html



So yeah, all in CT. So you are wrong. But that is me just proving you wrong. Unless of course you were born in the week or so, which I am beginning to think you were! I "street race" plenty myself, so I won't be hypocritical in that aspect.

if u read my original post i said in my area, so far none of those are in my area.

[Das General]

if u read my original post i said in my area, so far none of those are in my area.

You are in CT right? Those are all in CT. CT isn't that big. "area" is a subjective term...

[AMC]

yo deb u goin to H20?

bump

[AMC]

You are in CT right? Those are all in CT. CT isn't that big. "area" is a subjective term...

litchfield county

[Das General]

bump

I answered it in the other thread.

The car will be close to completion by H2O, if not soon after. But after the motor gets installed, it has to be broken in for almost 2k miles then it has to be tuned. The other hold up is in the manifold production and getting them replicated for a single turbo kit.

[mike-2ptzero]

A couple days before WF it trapped 129 IIRC. There is a dyno of it at ASP making 700whp...but it doesn't look like a 700whp car.

On a side note, that white car breaks something every time!

ASP dyno reads high. Other wise there are some pretty big issues if two 700+ S4's can hit 10's or 130+ traps at the tracks in NJ. I mean it isn't like we haven't seen a 650whp S4 go 10's at 130+ traps in CA and at a track that runs uphill in 90+ deg temps.

Easy way to find out is to put it on another dyno.

[generationjdm]

Just to put things into perspective for those that really don't understand.. Heres Vast video that was posted by someone who wrote that Mike was running 600whp when he had no clue what the car made... Mikes car was on a bone stock short block NO RODS, and made 509whp on race gas for his best dyno run on a very accurate no inflated mustang dyno. In the video Mike is running 93 oct on low boost which is no where near the 509whp he made with higher boost and race gas..

Now the car he raced went 124mph which is 2 mph faster then the k04 car in this video racing the asp car...

Now look how bad he gets smoked from a gt car with a stock short block on low pump gas boost... I hope this helps people understand the real differences between a low boost pump gas good running gt car verse a stage 3+ ko4 car on race gas and crazy high boost...http://videos.streetfire.net/video/6...4-T_113175.htm Mikes car also went 134mph the first time at the track on his weaker tune, that goes to show you dont need 700+whp to go 130+

[Das General]

ASP dyno reads high. Other wise there are some pretty big issues if two 700+ S4's can hit 10's or 130+ traps at the tracks in NJ. I mean it isn't like we haven't seen a 650whp S4 go 10's at 130+ traps in CA and at a track that runs uphill in 90+ deg temps.

Oh yeah I don't doubt it. I was just going by what his Youtube video said. Then again, it could have made 400whp and he is lying...

[Das General]

Just to put things into perspective for those that really don't understand.. Heres Vast video that was posted by someone who wrote that Mike was running 600whp when he had no clue what the car made... Mikes car was on a bone stock short block NO RODS, and made 509whp on race gas for his best dyno run. In the video Mike is running 93 oct on low boost which is no where near the 509whp he made with higher boost and race gas..

Now the car he raced went 124mph which is 2 mph faster then the k04 car in this video racing the asp car...

Now look how bad he gets smoked from a gt car with a stock short block on low pump gas boost... I hope this helps people understand the real differences between a low boost pump gas good running gt car verse a stage 3+ ko4 car on race gas and crazy high boost...http://videos.streetfire.net/video/6...4-T_113175.htm

Keep in that is from a roll, where the GT cars shine. As stated before. K04 cars can hang with a lot of cars from a dig. But up top are where the GT cars really do their damage. Which is why I said that he got walked pretty badly considering it was from a dig. Had that been a longer race, the GT car would have just put more lengths on Robs car.

[mike-2ptzero]

Oh yeah I don't doubt it. I was just going by what his Youtube video said. Then again, it could have made 400whp and he is lying...

Yeah, ET and Trap speeds just dont lie.

[Das General]

Yeah, ET and Trap speeds just dont lie.

Traps don't lie. ET is more or so drive dependent.

[generationjdm]

I understand Mike, but like I said his car was making no where near 509whp and look what happened.. Also theres no doubt in my mind that Mikes car would of crushed that car from a dig also.. The k04 car wanted to run from a roll... Mikes car went 104 in the 8th mile while the other car i think went 97 so it would of got it's ass handed to him from anywhere bottom line

[revhards4]

just so everyone is aware...GT2860RS's are rated max at 360hp each. So at the max efficiency and best tune the white car would make 720-750 CRANK HORSEPOWER. That is why you can't believe all the hype about what ASP cars really do or even what ASP claims because I know it's all bullshit. If I was the owner of that white car that's the first thing I'd ask Mark from ASP...why is my car making more whp than the car could ever do at the crank or my turbo's are capable of? Same goes for his RS6 turbo equipped cars. Good turbo's and all and provide an option for us tuners but don't blow smoke up our asses with inflated dyno numbers. That shit works for ricers and leg humpers. That white car is at a max of 550whp-600whp on a "none ASP" dyno running at its best.

Props to the owner of the white widebody GT car. Awesome looking machine and I hope to see it terrorizing others again. Plus, I hear the owner is Polish so I have to support my Polish brothers.

[generationjdm]

I think they sprayed the car on the dyno

[2001S4NY]

just so everyone is aware...GT2860RS's are rated max at 360hp each. So at the max efficiency and best tune the white car would make 720-750 CRANK HORSEPOWER. That is why you can't believe all the hype about what ASP cars really do or even what ASP claims because I know it's all bullshit. If I was the owner of that white car that's the first thing I'd ask Mark from ASP...why is my car making more whp than the car could ever do at the crank or my turbo's are capable of? Same goes for his RS6 turbo equipped cars. Good turbo's and all and provide an option for us tuners but don't blow smoke up our asses with inflated dyno numbers. That shit works for ricers and leg humpers. That white car is at a max of 550whp-600whp on a "none ASP" dyno running at its best.

Props to the owner of the white widebody GT car. Awesome looking machine and I hope to see it terrorizing others again. Plus, I hear the owner is Polish so I have to support my Polish brothers.

Polish brothers?
a ty co polak?

[revhards4]

Ahh...thanks then it would make a BIG difference. Do they have video or dyno sheets of just all boost?

[revhards4]

tak jestem...my polish spelling is not that good...born in Detroit and Polish is my first language as both my parents still speak to me in polish but I speak back in english, lol. I understand 100% though.

[CTgt28]

what makes you think that im running gt2860

[AMC]

what makes you think that im running gt2860

whats up buddy, hows your car?

[revhards4]

well then, what are you running?

[ToMMyRsK04]

what makes you think that im running gt2860

Maybe because your name says CT"gt28" ??

[generationjdm]

I think in the past people posted that about your car, sorry if that was not accurate...

[generationjdm]

Maybe because your name says CT"gt28" ??

Theres 8 different gt28s

[ToMMyRsK04]

Figured everyone was talking about the same one

[CTgt28]

hey bud i have the first run for you

[CTgt28]

2871R and no i didint spray

[CTgt28]

this is thhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIKcz7ZryVUe first run

[generationjdm]

on the dyno did u spray?

[2001S4NY]

tak jestem...my polish spelling is not that good...born in Detroit and Polish is my first language as both my parents still speak to me in polish but I speak back in english, lol. I understand 100% though.

niezle witam,

[CTgt28]

on the dyno did u spray?

no sir

[CTgt28]

niezle witam,

sie ma

[AMC]

this is thhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIKcz7ZryVUe first run

it wont work, send the link. my brother sucks with the camera missed the first one.