RS6 Turbo FAQ

[NYCVR6]

Good thread lol, Justin don't waste your time

I know, but man this moron makes it so easy....

[revhards4]

in all honesty, I would go with the VAG headers with the GT2560's if I ever had to upgrade. I don't think I would ever go through all the heart aches with changing the downpipe flanges, cutting the sides of the body of the car, etc, just to make the RS6's work. I would just go through the heart aches with getting the GT's to work

I just wouldn't put in another KKK turbo in the car if I didn't have to personally. VAG makes higher quality stuff then ASP or AWE and they just never get the credit that they truly deserve.

[NYCVR6]

Justin your right I'm b.s, first your words where i fabricated everything then the next post totally changed second you said i built this car the next post was with help from friends. Amc I don't recall seeing anything you built you have a v6 mustang and a stage 1 s4 in your avatar... The next time i put air in the tires i will take pics or you... The lil300 comment was a lame inside joke... Theres way to many hypocrite's here, bottom line Justin your talking about the rs6ss because you bought some or some where given to you, if you had gtss you would be pushing them also. Bottom line what ever your running is naturally the best way to go when you first bought the hybrids they where the best thing in the world now the rs6ss r, what proof do you have wheres your facts, is it because marc might be running them on his blue car one day. This was a thread about rs6ss and i gave my Opinion and some facts and someone turned this into a big thing about what have you done... Theres way to many sheep on this board, people think for yourself this board sounds more and more like a dsm board... http://www.audizine.com/gallery/show...0&ppuser=16391 Heres the few i actually had pics of, i might have 5-7 other cars floating around with pics...

V6 mustang, stage 1 s4? Not sure what you're talking about. If you go way back to my second post in this thread, i said im not saying one is better than the other, you are comparing apples and oranges. Dont misquote me. What im running is not naturally the best, i never said that so once again you misquote me.

Lets start with your false information about vast making 500whp at 20psi with on their GT car because i spoke with Mike Shimon tonight and he mentioned the car. So clearly i asked the boost required... Answer... 24 or so psi on 94 octane.

You have some pictures of random cars you just posted, what is that? I can post links to some random pictures as well. That was my drag car, it has my name on the side...

The difference between me and you is, people know me, people see me at the track, people know about what i have built and tuned. My GTI trapped 138mph on my tune. So i didnt build the cage and the IC, the rest of the car was built by me including traction bars, intake manifold, sheet aluminum work, windows, motor assembly,car wiring, tuning,etc....

You on the other hand, nobody knows you or sees you at the track. Your imaginary cars never made power. You live by dyno numbers... You have been on this board for a short period of time and everyone knows you are a shit talker. You've been talking about an imaginary project, but dont have any information or pictures to backup that you have even started with your custom GT kit, as far as im concerned you arent ever going to do anything, and you never have.

My GTI or what you call V6 mustang in some pathetic attempt at a mock has ran 10.8@138... My stage 1 s4 as you call it has run 11.6@124mph at 3800 lbs...

Im the hypocrite right? ha

You are the the resident shit talker, every forum needs one or two.

[NYCVR6]

all right i'll try to break the ice. In your opinion, what turbo setup would be best for a track with drag racing excluded? GT's or RS6's?

RS6's see full boost at 3800 rpm and gt's depending on size will see it at 4500+. For road racing the rs6's will have a far more usable power band, for drag racing, big GT's would probably make the most power.

[NYCVR6]

in all honesty, I would go with the VAG headers with the GT2560's if I ever had to upgrade. I don't think I would ever go through all the heart aches with changing the downpipe flanges, cutting the sides of the body of the car, etc, just to make the RS6's work. I would just go through the heart aches with getting the GT's to work

I just wouldn't put in another KKK turbo in the car if I didn't have to personally. VAG makes higher quality stuff then ASP or AWE and they just never get the credit that they truly deserve.

You dont have to cut the body of the car to fit rs6's, just relocate the wastegate and reflange the downpipe. The VAG manifold i saw from gurumans car looks like a blind man welded it. I saw him say they have a new welder though. Id love to have big GT's on my car, but it's just not practical to have on a car i drive all the time.

[Clay @ Kinetic]

You dont have to cut the body of the car to fit rs6's, just relocate the wastegate and reflange the downpipe. The VAG manifold i saw from gurumans car looks like a blind man welded it. I saw him say they have a new welder though. Id love to have big GT's on my car, but it's just not practical to have on a car i drive all the time.

text me tomorrow, i gotta mail you something boss

[generationjdm]

I wasn't speaking about you justin amc has a v6 mustang and a s4 in his avatar, all the pics seem to be taken at my house i guess maybe i borrowed someone elses house and cars then parked my cars there then took pics. Your right I'm a moron for making my own gt setup, it's funny how much hate there is on this board if you dont run KKKss... I have a life justin that doesn't revolve around a stupid car, I'm in no rush to complete it in a month.. Maybe your use to slapping things together in a day but I'm not as skilled as you... GT turbos should be better in the long run once the tuning gets there, this is my opinion. There r gt2554ss that would spool just as soon as the rs6ss or sooner theres gt2560s that spool between 38-4000 theres the gt2871s like the ones on gregs car that spool around 45-4700 from what he said... Hope that helps

[generationjdm]

Sorry that it sounds like i've been talking about the gt setup for a while, but in all fairness i replied in a post a while back that i was doing one for myself. From there certain people on this board has brought it up time and time again, all i do is respond/defend just like in this post but never once started a post of the setup. Once I have time to fit everything on the motor i will take some pics and post them I'm waiting on the back ordered turbos and the plumbing to get finished. If the info was correct from vast thats still around the point i was making less boost same or more power on pump gas, it's just the price of the rs6 parts that i can't see spending the money on...

[NYCVR6]

I wasn't speaking about you justin amc has a v6 mustang and a s4 in his avatar, all the pics seem to be taken at my house i guess maybe i borrowed someone elses house and cars then parked my cars there then took pics. Your right I'm a moron for making my own gt setup, it's funny how much hate there is on this board if you dont run KKKss... I have a life justin that doesn't revolve around a stupid car, I'm in no rush to complete it in a month.. Maybe your use to slapping things together in a day but I'm not as skilled as you... GT turbos should be better in the long run once the tuning gets there, this is my opinion. There r gt2554ss that would spool just as soon as the rs6ss or sooner theres gt2560s that spool between 38-4000 theres the gt2871s like the ones on gregs car that spool around 45-4700 from what he said... Hope that helps

You got me all wrong. Look back at my first few posts. I am the biggest fan of GT turbo design and function, but every application is different. If making the fastest S4 around was my goal, i would easily choose a pair of GT's. But like ive been saying, i want a fast reliable car and the rs6's seem to fit the bill. Why would i care if people dont run kkk turbos? That's just silly, a GT'd S4 is far more impressive, but it doesnt suit my needs. I have a life, i am barely into cars and racing like i used to... If i need to work on my car, i dont have a second to breath during the day.... My only free time is on the weekend, and i usually have things scheduled that i couldnt take care of during the week because of work and shit. Im in no rush either, but talking about a project like it's the greatest thing around, but isnt going to be completed for years is silly. As of now, your project is just a dream to you.

[generationjdm]

The odd thing is i never once posted the details of the setup, i just said i will be doing a gt setup and from there it's been bashed.. It's been brought up by not me but other members, please show me where i constantly bragged about it... I'm the only one who knows the complete details not one other person know's all the details... Theres a difference between dreams and reality,lets end the arguing about this and move forwards to more options for the s4.. I didn't pull the motor out for fun

[NYCVR6]

I dont really care, just seems like youve been talking about this imaginary GT setup forever. Good luck with your setup bro...

If anyone wants to get back on topic, i can probably answer some questions.

[blackbenzz]

If anyone wants to get back on topic, i can probably answer some questions.

How much whp do you expect to make with the RS6 setup (pump and race)?

[AMC]

I wasn't speaking about you justin amc has a v6 mustang and a s4 in his avatar, all the pics seem to be taken at my house i guess maybe i borrowed someone elses house and cars then parked my cars there then took pics. Your right I'm a moron for making my own gt setup, it's funny how much hate there is on this board if you dont run KKKss... I have a life justin that doesn't revolve around a stupid car, I'm in no rush to complete it in a month.. Maybe your use to slapping things together in a day but I'm not as skilled as you... GT turbos should be better in the long run once the tuning gets there, this is my opinion. There r gt2554ss that would spool just as soon as the rs6ss or sooner theres gt2560s that spool between 38-4000 theres the gt2871s like the ones on gregs car that spool around 45-4700 from what he said... Hope that helps

yes i have a v6 modded by no other than me..its only got basics such as exhaust (custom true dual) and a ford racing trac-loc that i installed myself a diablo tune, clutch, flywheel, and just body and interior work form there which i did myself also, my s4 is stage 2 just letting u kno and ive done everything to it besides the chip, im rebuilding my tranmission soon (by myself). and plan on going stage 3 this winter. ive also rebuild and swappe dthe motor myself off my dodge ram and then some otehr side jobs helping people out. im no where near the best mechanic around or anything to be looked at but i do everything myself i dont belive in going to a shop unless i really have to. its all in house in my garage with a short amount of tools.

ur pics prove nothing besids u taking them. whats so special. im not denying u worked on em but im not beliveing u cause all i see is autowerks and evolution motorsports on those cars unless u work for them they wouldnt let u half them build other customers cars i kno that. are u a certified tech? ur s4 looks like crap with those headlights and horrible rs4 fitment, ur exhaust looks stock so idk tell me what stage u r...cause obviously ur not stage 3 cause EVERYTHINg is on backorder. im not sure what to belive cause u show no type of proof! show pics of ur car and u working on them and i will withdraw anything i said to u since ur master of fabricating and shit y do u need parts for it u should be able to do the turbo manifolds and the custom downpipes...i doubt gt turboes are on backorder, u might need to fit new oil lines be able they fit well o nthe s4 maybe some refab in the engine bay to make it fit but that should all be in house isnce ur pro...what else do u need??

u have been talkin about building a stage 3 gt28 kit since u started postin here on AZ which so far 7 months uve been on here how long have the parts that are on backorder been going on for 6 months or so?? too me and most AZ'ers here ur nothing but talk and show no signs of proof! just always contradict anything any1 says cause ur king. get a life show some pics or ur setup and what u have done so far and i will say sorry and forget everythign i said b4...and yes make fun of me i have a v6 mustang that is faster than slightly modded foxbodys...but hey its my beater car so i dont mind im savin up for a cobra

[NYCVR6]

How much whp do you expect to make with the RS6 setup (pump and race)?

450 on pump and 525 on race gas would be nice. . . I'm hoping for a little better than that though.

[generationjdm]

R U ON DRUGS you sound like someone that takes drugs... I never mention 1 thing about a gt kit prior to 2 months ago so quick smoking crack... I never said i was personally making manifolds or dps so once again get clean... I never owned a car in my life that had a autowerks sticker on it so your wrong again. The s4 pics r from when i bought the car.. I never made fun of you r you seeing things? gt2560s with the iconel wheels r on back order they where released monday. Anything else you could be wrong about.. By the way that was part my building, thats why my cars where there..Calm down, i dont recall insulting you or maing insults towards your cars it's been the exact opposite, so why r you so upset

[joemomma]

450 on pump and 525 on race gas would be nice. . . I'm hoping for a little better than that though.

Here you go something everyone might enjoy if they havent seen it yet from my earlier post when things were starting to get uugglly. This car has straight RS6 turbos, a built motor and all the supporting goods.

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/2...a500bec748.htm

[AMC]

R U ON DRUGS you sound like someone that takes drugs... I never mention 1 thing about a gt kit prior to 2 months ago so quick smoking crack... I never said i was personally making manifolds or dps so once again get clean... I never owned a car in my life that had a autowerks sticker on it so your wrong again. The s4 pics r from when i bought the car.. I never made fun of you r you seeing things? gt2560s with the iconel wheels r on back order they where released monday. Anything else you could be wrong about.. By the way that was part my building, thats why my cars where there..

i dont do drugs sorry. im talkin about the civics, and the skyline, those are i nteh autowerks shop if u cant tell, im just trying to find out what cars u supposidly worked on, just cause cars are parked in ur driveway doesnt mean u worked on them, the corvette isnt a z06 so thats sad, the roadrunner is sexy but i doubt u built it. im saying give us proof...and about the gt's sorr i didnt kno what kind of gt u were going with it shows that i dont pay attention to u anymore since u just talk out of ur ass

[generationjdm]

I owned part of the building thats why my stuff was there. Your mustang isn't a v8 either... Please don't try to make it sound like my vette isn't a vette because its not a z06, the gtr cost me more at the time then any used z06, by the way i owned most of them cars at the same time... most of those cars where work on by me some to larger degrees then others, does that make the car anymore or less different. Explain how you know me again, please prove me talking out my ass my car will be getting worked on more as soon as i free up sometime, I'm very busy with working and living life to make the car number 1 in my life.. Pleasing board members with pics of ever step of the way is my top concern, when it's time i will... RS6 related if you can get a set cheap and can homebrew the fueling for the right price then thats the way to go if your not looking for any crazy power, then again 500whp is kind of crazy

[elijahallen]

Wow, I was afraid to read this thread because I knew there would be alot of drama but holly shit, what a waste of time. Anyway, back on subject, I have a set of RS6 turbos that I plan to use if I can ever get these hybrids to blow. I don't want to make any more power than what the hybrids make, I just want to make it with less boost and less heat. This car is my DD as well as weekend track car a few times a year and the biggest problem I have at the track is heat and timing being cut because of high egt's and IAT's. I am hoping to use the compressor housings from my hybrids on the RS6's and maybe the WG's if they will bolt up. The DP flange isn't a big deal so all in all I think fitting the turbo's will be fairly easy. I will probably have vast tune the car and if possible just use the fueling that I am running now.

Elijah

[blackbenzz]

450 on pump and 525 on race gas would be nice. . . I'm hoping for a little better than that though.

Cool, good luck and keep us posted on the results

[NYCVR6]

Cool, good luck and keep us posted on the results

Thanks man, definitely will update during the build and results. Im not one of those who likes to keep things secret, im always willing to share.

[tdiquattro]

Looks like Boris introduction was a complete waste of time, this looks just like the other thread, has anyone actually got any answers to his questions?

[10SecS4]

Looks like Boris introduction was a complete waste of time, this looks just like the other thread, has anyone actually got any answers to his questions?

Check the very first response to this thread.

[GURUMAN]

I guess you guy no by now that I'm running a gt setup every day. If it wasnt for the good deal that I got exchanging my 01 stage 2 s4 a year ago.

I would have probably go rs6 with custom fueling.

I ended up paying about 6g's for my kit if you calculate the exchange of my 01 stage 2.

If you plan is 11's steet car, rs6 seem to be a more economical way to go.

Justin has prove it, and I saw him with my own eyes this year at waterfest.

I'm not saying gt's are better than rs6's but on a stock block, you can reach the same level of performance for less.

I'm not keeboard racing, I run this gt setup daily.

[JMTx86]

Mark what are your future plans for your car? or are you staying with the ko4's for some more record setting times and traps

[10SecS4]

I'm thinking about parting it out or selling it as is and going with a turbo 6.4L for Maggie... The B5 S4 is just such an old and dying platform with a limited and extremely expensive aftermarket.

[lil' is 300]

I'm thinking about parting it out or selling it as is and going with a turbo 6.4L for Maggie... The B5 S4 is just such an old and dying platform with a limited and extremely expensive aftermarket.

How much. I'll buy it and take off all the body panels. I want an open wheeler S4. That'd be piiiiiiiiimp!

[generationjdm]

I guess you guy no by now that I'm running a gt setup every day. If it wasnt for the good deal that I got exchanging my 01 stage 2 s4 a year ago.

I would have probably go rs6 with custom fueling.

I ended up paying about 6g's for my kit if you calculate the exchange of my 01 stage 2.

If you plan is 11's steet car, rs6 seem to be a more economical way to go.

Justin has prove it, and I saw him with my own eyes this year at waterfest.

I'm not saying gt's are better than rs6's but on a stock block, you can reach the same level of performance for less.

I'm not keeboard racing, I run this gt setup daily.

doesn't justin have hybrids?

[JMTx86]

I'm thinking about parting it out or selling it as is and going with a turbo 6.4L for Maggie... The B5 S4 is just such an old and dying platform with a limited and extremely expensive aftermarket.

Thats cool, you sell huge power from that. . . . id ont blame you, youve basically broken all rules and records with your car. Something new would be cool. Me im going stage 3 am im DONE. Nice lil EK with a LSV+ boost and juice and ill be more then happy.

[JMTx86]

How much. I'll buy it and take off all the body panels. I want an open wheeler S4. That'd be piiiiiiiiimp!

LOL if you do end up parting it ill take the fuel system :) and those rear wheels and spacers

[NYCVR6]

doesn't justin have hybrids?

Yea i have hybrids, with straight rs6 on their way to me.

[AB18]

^^ Do the rs6s have the same rock solid reliability as the pj ko4s? Don't really here many failures with them.

[NYCVR6]

There arent many cars out there running them, but i assume they are as reliable as factory K04's

[casawhites4]

what other mods need to be done...what are you doin with your k04s i call dibs!!!!! :-D

[AMC]

if marc does sell his car i am definitly keepin the ECU...but besides that dont sell it marc uve made history with ur car...keep teh bitch dont be a bitch

[esss_pho]

has anyone tried to homebrew their own software?