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    Established Member Four Rings BeerBrent's Avatar
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    Audi ranked #2 (best brands) by Consumer Reports

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    http://www.kgw.com/article/news/nati.../507-528077339


    Consumer reports looks at reliability, owner satisfaction, road performance and safety to rank its best and worst brands for cars.
    The results are in the magazine's April issue. Consumer Reports is closely watched because it is notoriously independent when it comes to car evaluations, including buying models that its tests from dealers rather than borrowing them from automakers.


    10 best brands:

    1. Genesis

    2. Audi

    3. BMW

    4. Lexus

    5. Porsche

    6. Kia

    7. Subaru

    8. Tesla

    9. Honda

    10.Toyota



    10 worst brands:

    1. Fiat

    2. Jeep

    3. Land Rover

    4. Alfa Romeo

    5. Mitsubishi

    6. Jaguar

    7. GMC

    8. Dodge

    9. Ram

    10. Mini

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    2012 F350; 2008 Shelby GT/SC; 2003 VRSCA: 2015 A4
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    I remember when I had my 2000 A4 and read Consumer Reports review of the car. It was not a good review but I owned it for 14 years and put 230K miles on it. I enjoyed the car enough to buy another A4. People do put a base on CR.

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    Established Member Two Rings TJet1.8's Avatar
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    LOL...Hyundai (Genesys) beat Audi.

    I still remember the Hyundai Pony...
    APR K04, Eurocode 3" Test Pipe, ECS TIP, CTS 3" DP w/3" Vibrant Race Muffler, Unitronic IC, AWE Quad Tips, GFB DV+, AFE Dry Filter, Meth Injected, ST Coilovers, P3Cars Gauge, Avant Garde M510...
    All the common issues every other B8 exhibits

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    Funny I remember helping my friend replace the rotted out oil pan in his sisters Hyundai Excel.

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    Established Member Four Rings Spawne32's Avatar
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    Most reliable brand for what? The last month?

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    Interestingly, the '08 to '11 A4 are on their "do not buy" used cars list, and the '13 A4 is on the "recommended" list. Mine is a '12... go figure.
    Be alert! America needs more lerts.
    Eric Law
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    '90 80Q AAN + Megasquirt = great fastness
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    Quote Originally Posted by BeerBrent View Post
    http://www.kgw.com/article/news/nati.../507-528077339


    Consumer reports looks at reliability, owner satisfaction, road performance and safety to rank its best and worst brands for cars.
    The results are in the magazine's April issue. Consumer Reports is closely watched because it is notoriously independent when it comes to car evaluations, including buying models that its tests from dealers rather than borrowing them from automakers.


    10 best brands:

    1. Genesis

    2. Audi

    3. BMW

    4. Lexus

    5. Porsche

    6. Kia

    7. Subaru

    8. Tesla

    9. Honda

    10.Toyota



    10 worst brands:

    1. Fiat

    2. Jeep

    3. Land Rover

    4. Alfa Romeo

    5. Mitsubishi

    6. Jaguar

    7. GMC

    8. Dodge

    9. Ram

    10. Mini


    As far as best brands go. The concept of this list doesn't make any sense to me.

    Genesis sells 2-3 different models? Other brands like Audi, Lexus selling a much more varied portfolio. Also while the difference between cars you pull from the dealer lot, and those received from the manufacturer has good intent, it still doesn't get around the fact that the car you get at the dealer could be very good, or very bad within the same make and model. Just because consumer auto got good batch from the dealers, doesn't mean their aren't a bunch of bad and/or defective cars sitting on other lots.

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    Established Member Four Rings Spawne32's Avatar
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    Technically speaking, if you go by highest overall customer satisfaction, Tesla ranks #1, but its such a niche market at the moment it makes no sense to even include it on the list. As expected, consumer reports reviews are cherry picked based on the amount of kickback they get from the AAA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELaw View Post
    Interestingly, the '08 to '11 A4 are on their "do not buy" used cars list, and the '13 A4 is on the "recommended" list. Mine is a '12... go figure.
    I had to look this up: https://www.consumerreports.org/used...-avoid-buying/


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    Veteran Member Four Rings Crucible35's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by ichibanaudi View Post
    I think most on this forum would agree with that evaluation for the '08-'12 A4s.... although most would like to forget.
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    Established Member Two Rings Hagasan41's Avatar
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    Hmm... list looks a bit off with Audi, BMW, Lexus and Porsche beating out Honda and Toyota. Oh well this list should help our resale value!
    2015 A4 Quattro S-line 6MT Glacier White/Black

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    I never put much stock in Consumer Reports ratings. They just look at perceived value with things like cost per mile and so on. They totally overlook one of the most important factors - joy of ownership. If the car makes you happy and it's fun to drive then the rest of it is completely irrelevant. LOL, I'd like to show this list to a buddy of mine who's a Master Mechanic at a Lexus dealer and has been working on Toyota products most of his adult life. I'm sure he'd have a few things to say about it. He absolutely hates German cars.

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    Veteran Member Three Rings ducati's Avatar
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    Lexus,Porsche,Buick usually is always in the top 5.Audi above 2014 seems to be pretty reliable.I know a few Audi mechanics and they rarely seen the crap that Audi's between 2009-2013 experience.One thing though the electronic,electric aspects of the B8 models are surprisingly reliable.

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    Established Member Four Rings Spawne32's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by ducati View Post
    One thing though the electronic,electric aspects of the B8 models are surprisingly reliable.
    thank god for that, as if we need anything else added to the list of shit that goes wrong on this car lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELaw View Post
    Interestingly, the '08 to '11 A4 are on their "do not buy" used cars list, and the '13 A4 is on the "recommended" list. Mine is a '12... go figure.
    I've always wondered about this, as I have a '12 as well and I don't seem to experience all the issues everybody else complains of. The research I did before buying also suggested that I would be fine going with a '12. I don't know enough about the revisions made through the various years to know if much changed between '11 and '12.

    Does anybody know what/if changes were made to the '12 models?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dandy View Post
    Does anybody know what/if changes were made to the '12 models?
    I wonder if some changes were made during the 2012 model year?

    On mine, I opened up the engine and it definitely had the failure-prone tensioner... it was a ticking time bomb. Due to financial constraints and the fact the other components looked okay I just replaced the tensioner which I know isn't ideal but I still sleep a little better.
    Be alert! America needs more lerts.
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    '12 A4Q completely boringly stock
    '90 80Q AAN + Megasquirt = great fastness
    '97 Saab 9000 Aero: sold 5/2017, sorely missed



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