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    TT gets new wheels and coilovers

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    Recently completed installation of new suspension and wheels on the wife's TT so thought I would share.

    Wheels are VMR V710 in 19x8.5 ET35 all round with 245/35/19. Suspension setup includes Bilstein coilovers and K-Mac camber plates.



    Bilstein B14 coilover front assembly with K-Mac Street/Race II camber plates shown on the left.



    Bilstein B14 rear assembly.



    A few images of the wheels before fitting tires. These are VMR V710 in Gunmetal finish. 19x8.5 ET35.









    Time to get started.



    Front shock installed



    Wheels getting balanced. Tires are the factory 245/35/19. These actually sit much better on the 8.5 rim than the factory 9.0 which had a slight stretch.





    Wheels on ready for height adjustments and alignment.



    It was a bit of a challenge getting it on the ramps... but we got there in the end.

    All camber, caster and toe adjustments where able to be restored perfectly in spec with the use of the camber plates. Note that this was not possible before, even when just lowering with springs (I used H&R previously)









    A few final adjustments





    FYI, final ride heights...



    This setup thus far does not touch, scrub or foul any part of the car under all driving conditions.

    A few more image of the end result.







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    Exceptional TT and exceptional photography. Well done!!
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    Looks great!
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    Hey Steve, time to get your shit togetherthis new guy is legit!! Play, you obviously know your way around a camera, Iím sure I speak for all of us when I ask for tons of local Australia pics. And seeing thatís your wifeís ride, letís see a pic of yours.
    Beautiful car, I really need to get my mods underway.
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    Very impressive! Gotta love shiny new parts. How do you compare the ride quality with the oem setup?
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    @Huey52 & @Chuckster Thanks for the positive feedback guys. I'm pleased with how it's turning out so far.

    @BradB, I always found the OEM ride quality to be firm to begin with, it was really the ridiculous wheel gap that annoyed me the most. Prior to fitting the Bilsteins I tried the H&R springs on OEM shocks. That setup was terrible in my experience. The ride was very harsh, and the car felt over damped. The Bilsteins don't suffer the same problem but are certainly firmer again over the OEM setup, not as harsh, jolting or "crashy" as the H&R's. They give you plenty of feedback (sometimes too much) and good control. They feel great at speed, but a little overdone around town.

    Given the car is used a daily drive, shopping, etc. in hindsight we should have optioned the magnetic ride to give us the option of a more relaxed setup when needed. It basically drives like the suspension is in a "Dynamic PLUS" mode all the time, which is great when you're on it, not so much when you're just want to cruise. All in all though, I would recommend the Bilsteins as a good option, I'm probably just getting too soft and can't handle the racecar spec anymore

    @ourlee here's a pic of my car. I'm usually over in the 5 threads. There should be some more pics in the link on my sig if you're interested, although I think most of them were destroyed by Photobucket when they changed up the rules.

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    Beautiful!
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    One of my all time favorite wheels.
    Amazing how much of a difference proper drop and wheels make.

    B14s are awesome. Best setup I've run on any of my Audis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coolwater View Post
    Amazing how much of a difference proper drop and wheels make.
    Completely agree. Can make or break the look of a car.
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    That drop looks amazing. Im also planning on getting the B14's for my Roadster along with the KMAC camber plates.

    Are you running any sway bars and is the car on factory alignment specs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PLAYRZ View Post
    @Huey52 & @Chuckster Thanks for the positive feedback guys. I'm pleased with how it's turning out so far.

    Given the car is used a daily drive, shopping, etc. in hindsight we should have optioned the magnetic ride to give us the option of a more relaxed setup when needed. It basically drives like the suspension is in a "Dynamic PLUS" mode all the time, which is great when you're on it, not so much when you're just want to cruise. All in all though, I would recommend the Bilsteins as a good option, I'm probably just getting too soft and can't handle the racecar spec anymore

    I have the B16s. And while not magride, dialing them down to '2-3', is much more comfortable (and still better feedback and such) than stock, with '5-6' being 'really fun but firm', and of course 10 for the track. But dials are certainly not wife-friendly.

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    Beautiful! Keep these coming ...
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    To the OP. Any updates on this setup?

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    Quote Originally Posted by littlejuanito View Post
    That drop looks amazing. Im also planning on getting the B14's for my Roadster along with the KMAC camber plates.

    Are you running any sway bars and is the car on factory alignment specs?
    Sorry for the late reply, I missed this one. No changes to the sway bars have been made and yes, alignment is factory spec. Again, this was only possible with the addition of camber plates.

    Quote Originally Posted by littlejuanito View Post
    To the OP. Any updates on this setup?
    Car has settled 2mm all round putting the ride heights at 594mm (front) and 600mm (rear). No issues with tyre wear, scrubbing or scrapping (driveways, speed humps, etc). Very happy with how it's turned out although I do wish the B14 were a touch softer... I still find them a little too firm for daily use, especially over poor road surfaces. Potentially should have gone the B16's for a bit more flexibility and maybe a softer ride? The platform is new to me (and probably many others) so learning as I go. I'll be sticking with the B14's for a while yet.



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    wow!
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    Very nice pics PLAYRZ. I enjoy your editing style.

    I just put the H&R on my TT with the stock shocks. I think I am going to have to find a different setup since it is a little harsh and the wife hates riding in the car now.

    I have not really looked into full suspension setups so does anyone have recommendations for something that would improve the harsh ride that won't break the bank?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PLAYRZ View Post
    Potentially should have gone the B16's for a bit more flexibility and maybe a softer ride? The platform is new to me (and probably many others) so learning as I go. I'll be sticking with the B14's for a while yet.
    I have the B16s on my TT after having H&R springs on Bilstein B8s on my A3. The B16s on the TT are just like your other ride. 2-3 is very wife friendly for me, and i usually do 6 and she's still good with it. of course, 10 on a smooth track is excellent, pretty bouncy at Sebring, though :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by midtenn View Post
    Very nice pics PLAYRZ. I enjoy your editing style.

    I just put the H&R on my TT with the stock shocks. I think I am going to have to find a different setup since it is a little harsh and the wife hates riding in the car now.

    I have not really looked into full suspension setups so does anyone have recommendations for something that would improve the harsh ride that won't break the bank?
    Yes, the H&R with stock shocks is a terrible combination IMO. The B14's are better but not perfect. If I could go back and do it all again I would of gone straight for the B16's and left them set on 1-3 (as per davera3 comments), the KW V2/3 or maybe the MSS kit, unfortunately these weren't available when I was shopping for suspension but have read lots of good reviews on them. Unfortunately, all of these solutions are not "budget friendly" especially if you're just looking to get rid of that wheel gap, improve the stance of the car without sacrificing daily driveability.

    Admittedly, I was wary of going for just another set of springs to match with the OEM shocks after the H&R experience. Many of the buyer reviews for the H&R's were good and nobody noted any ride quality issue that I could find, so rolling the dice on say a set Eibachs or like just seemed like too much of a gamble. Potentially other brands/models of springs do genuinely offer a good solution, I just wasn't willing to try them all to find it.

    Short story long, my advise (that I should have taken) would be to pony up the cash for the good stuff rather than run the risk of ruining your enjoyment of a great car. Hopefully others will have some first hand recommendations for you to help with the decision.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PLAYRZ View Post
    Yes, the H&R with stock shocks is a terrible combination IMO. The B14's are better but not perfect. If I could go back and do it all again I would of gone straight for the B16's and left them set on 1-3 (as per davera3 comments), the KW V2/3 or maybe the MSS kit, unfortunately these weren't available when I was shopping for suspension but have read lots of good reviews on them. Unfortunately, all of these solutions are not "budget friendly" especially if you're just looking to get rid of that wheel gap, improve the stance of the car without sacrificing daily driveability.

    Admittedly, I was wary of going for just another set of springs to match with the OEM shocks after the H&R experience. Many of the buyer reviews for the H&R's were good and nobody noted any ride quality issue that I could find, so rolling the dice on say a set Eibachs or like just seemed like too much of a gamble. Potentially other brands/models of springs do genuinely offer a good solution, I just wasn't willing to try them all to find it.

    Short story long, my advise (that I should have taken) would be to pony up the cash for the good stuff rather than run the risk of ruining your enjoyment of a great car. Hopefully others will have some first hand recommendations for you to help with the decision.
    Iím actually on the fence between the B14ís and the B16ís. I like the adjustability the latter offers, but I love the simplicity of the former. Iíve had adjustable dampers in the past and it was a pain in the arse adjusting them up to my liking so thats why I rather get Coilovers that come already set, such as he B14ís.

    Anyone else care to input on either of the two Bilstein options?

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    I would love to know more about this. So the B14 and B16 have dampening adjustments and are coilovers? This car is going to $1500 me to death LOL

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    There is plenty of literature available from Bilstein and other online resources regarding the B14 (PSS) and the B16 (PSS10) so I won't go into detail regarding coilover suspension, but as a quick summary;

    • The Bilstein B14 and B16 kits are both coilover solutions.
    • They both offer ride height adjustability (approx 15-40mm) but you need to step up to the B16's to get 10-stage damping system adjusts for rebound and compression, this allows you to tune the setup to your liking (1=comfort 10=sport).
    • The B14's on the other hand have the rebound and compression set by Bilstein out of the box and is not adjustable. These are apparently factory tuned for each specific application and "tested on the famed Nurburgring".

    The B14's out of the box setup is potentially ideal if you live at the Nurburgring or regularly drive on roads that mimic a race track (they do actually perform really well on good roads), but for me as a daily driver solution in the TT they are certainly a compromise in comfort. The question is really how much you're willing to compromise. Unfortunately I wasn't able to "have my cake and eat it too" with the B14's while others may have.

    Understand that I do think the B14 is a great product, it's just not perfect for my requirements.
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    im very happy with my mss sport kit but it is borderline wife approved. bumping down to lightweight 18' wheels with 255 tires should also help.
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