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    Timing belt at 54k miles?

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    Hey everyone I’ve always come to Audizine for my A4 needs and need some advice. I just recent changed my timing belt on B7 A4 with 54k miles. Do you guys think it was over kill or rather be safe than sorry? I am going to keep the car to well over 100k Miles so might as well get it done?

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    Getting a timing belt done before it snaps is always a good idea. And damn that car is new still at that mileage.

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    Preventive maintenance is never a bad idea. I changed my timing belt two years ago at 57,000 miles due to the fact that the belt was nearly ten years old rather than the mileage.

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    Not overkill. Timing belt isn't just about mileage. It's also about age. An 8-10 year old belt should be replaced regardless of the mileage.

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    I should do mine soon. My car is exactly 10 years old. 2008 model but final assembly date is July 2007....and I just hit 66666 mile!


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    What mileage are you supposed to do them at according to Audi? My 08 is at 44k miles. APR Stage 1 tuned since around 18k miles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WewannaB7 View Post
    What mileage are you supposed to do them at according to Audi? My 08 is at 44k miles. APR Stage 1 tuned since around 18k miles.
    110K. nothing here about time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KJack View Post
    Preventive maintenance is never a bad idea. I changed my timing belt two years ago at 57,000 miles due to the fact that the belt was nearly ten years old rather than the mileage.
    This.

    This also works the other way too. I drove 130,000 miles in 2 years without changing the T-belt. I changed it at 150k and 3 years of age. This was a CPO 2012 Jetta TDI I bought with 9,000 miles so every service was done with me as the owner or I wouldn’t have stretched the belt service that long. It’s a balance of mileage and age. Short trips over a long period of time is way worse for a car than longer trips more frequently.

    My current Audi had a belt change at 80k by the PO and I did it myself at 160k.

    Having said all that, the proper time to do a T belt is any time you have to ask yourself, “Should I do a T belt?”😀

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    Quote Originally Posted by Okedokey View Post
    110K. nothing here about time.
    The 2006 service interval chart says at 110K at the bottom. So does the chart you linked. It’s at the very bottom.

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    I’ve got an 06 at about 57,000 miles, should I be considering replacement? I want to do it myself is it terribly difficult? My parents keep telling me I’m not a mechanic lol


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    Quote Originally Posted by EvolutionArmory View Post
    The 2006 service interval chart says at 110K at the bottom. So does the chart you linked. It’s at the very bottom.
    huh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Okedokey View Post
    huh?
    You said the link you posted says nothing about time. I assumed you meant timing belt. It does say that the interval is 110K at the bottom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EvolutionArmory View Post
    You said the link you posted says nothing about time. I assumed you meant timing belt. It does say that the interval is 110K at the bottom.
    He meant interval as in miles, not time/duration according to the set list. But I wouldn't wait that long since I hardly drive the thing. In my case by the time I reach 110K miles, it'd be another ten years (already 10 years now). Don't know about anyone else but 20 years for a timing belt replacement is a definite no no for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EvolutionArmory View Post
    You said the link you posted says nothing about time. I assumed you meant timing belt. It does say that the interval is 110K at the bottom.
    I think it was a misunderstanding. By “time” I think they were referring to length of time that passes before the belt should be replaced. E.g. 7 years, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KJack View Post
    I think it was a misunderstanding. By “time” I think they were referring to length of time that passes before the belt should be replaced. E.g. 7 years, etc.
    Got it. Wasn’t thinking. If he had said age I would have understood immediately. My mistake.

    I would absolutely consider age of a belt when thinking of replacing one. Timing belts dry out and crack like any other belt.

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    Yea the service schedule doesn't have time constraints but realistically, 10 years is the max I would trust an original belt, regardless of mileage. Rubber ages and oxidizes and loses strength over time, just like anything else.

    OP, I also changed my timing belt at 54k, but it was because I was doing a cam replacement and wanted the extra peace of mind of having that be done and not having to deal with it for (likely) the lifetime I would own the car. Did I need to do it? No. But I did it just to get it out of the way and I already had all the components off anyway, it added maybe 15 minutes to the weekend long job so it was a no-brainer.
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    It’s like when you see a grandpa driving a brand new looking 1997 Ford Taurus. The car is mint looking with 20,000 miles but his tires are all dry rotted with 80% tread life left and his power sterering squeaks like hell 😀

    I think 10 years is a little long regardless of mileage. 5 years regardless of low mileage would be my comfort zone. Location has a lot to do with it too. If you live in sunny California and have tame winters, 10 might be doable. Not in New England though.

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    And the majority of broken belts come from the teeth breaking, not the actual belt snapping which is why visual inspections from the top are almost useless.

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    It also depends on the climate or if the car has been persistently cared for and garaged throughout its whole life. Like a wild animal, it lives (or lasts) longer in captivity.

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    I recently did an engine swap for a 2.0 that had the belt snap at 139,000 miles. So there’s your peak service interval lol


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    Quote Originally Posted by b7_Andy View Post
    I recently did an engine swap for a 2.0 that had the belt snap at 139,000 miles. So there’s your peak service interval lol


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    Strange that in Australia the recommended interval for the timing belt on the 2.0T is 7 years or 105,000 kilometres (65k miles)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jet08 View Post
    Strange that in Australia the recommended interval for the timing belt on the 2.0T is 7 years or 105,000 kilometres (65k miles)
    Maybe the perception is that we the shit out of our cars over here...lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jet08 View Post
    Strange that in Australia the recommended interval for the timing belt on the 2.0T is 7 years or 105,000 kilometres (65k miles)
    Quote Originally Posted by Ringsby4 View Post
    Maybe the perception is that we the shit out of our cars over here...lol
    I'm certainly keeping my end up as I like giving Wolfie a thrashing when the mood strikes me
    Maybe because its hot as over there in the land of down under ..............
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    Not to hijack this thread but my car is at 42K miles and is a 2007 2.0T on its original belt. It has been garaged its whole life in a temperature controlled environment. Heck this car hardly ever sees salt let alone any harsh weather. So you guys think I should bite the bullet and go for a timing belt change also? My only issue is I am no good at wrenching something this difficult and I have either a dealer or a high priced Audi specialist in my area. I guess the price you pay for living out in the sticks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dalmation53 View Post
    Getting a timing belt done before it snaps is always a good idea. And damn that car is new still at that mileage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cheemn View Post
    Not to hijack this thread but my car is at 42K miles and is a 2007 2.0T on its original belt. It has been garaged its whole life in a temperature controlled environment. Heck this car hardly ever sees salt let alone any harsh weather. So you guys think I should bite the bullet and go for a timing belt change also? My only issue is I am no good at wrenching something this difficult and I have either a dealer or a high priced Audi specialist in my area. I guess the price you pay for living out in the sticks.
    Ill change it for you you can pay my 1 day hotel stay and $600

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    Quote Originally Posted by dalmation53 View Post
    Ill change it for you you can pay my 1 day hotel stay and $600

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    Lol I thought people flee south this time of the year and not north. Gotta research parts etc first before i make any decision anyways. You guys are awesome though. Thanks for the offer Ivan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cheemn View Post
    Lol I thought people flee south this time of the year and not north. Gotta research parts etc first before i make any decision anyways. You guys are awesome though. Thanks for the offer Ivan.

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    Haha my offer was serious i wasn't kidding. A shop will charge maybe like $1200. I'm ok with a 2 star hotel haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by dalmation53 View Post
    Haha my offer was serious i wasn't kidding. A shop will charge maybe like $1200. I'm ok with a 2 star hotel haha

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    I know you were serious. Hence you are AWESOME! Still gotta do my homework on things first.

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    I know you were serious. Hence you are AWESOME! Still gotta do my homework on things first.
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    I would change it. A 10 year old belt is asking for trouble.

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    Definitely change it. Not worth the risk. I'm on my 3rd timing belt already @145k miles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RAudiB7A4 View Post
    Definitely change it. Not worth the risk. I'm on my 3rd timing belt already @145k miles.
    Damn thats motivation right here.
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    I thought I remember Audi changing the recommended service interval to 90k. In any event, we generally go no more than 75k or 80k. If you've never done one, a timing belt service will take most of the day on a 2.0t. Might as well do a fuel pump cam follower while you're in there, and change any worn hoses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vandal View Post
    I thought I remember Audi changing the recommended service interval to 90k. In any event, we generally go no more than 75k or 80k. If you've never done one, a timing belt service will take most of the day on a 2.0t. Might as well do a fuel pump cam follower while you're in there, and change any worn hoses.
    95K is the OE manufacturer's upper recommended change interval. (Gates IIRC)
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    yeah 10 years is pushing it regardless of mileage . Not sure about the 2.0T but on my old A6 and even on my 944 from years ago it was usually the tensioners and rollers that went or the water pump bearing and took out the belt and everything with it. Poor belt always gets the blame though.
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    Audi revised the timing belt interval for the 1.8t down to 90k or something. But the 2.0t is 110k. They did some tricky things in the 2.0t like making the crank sprocket elliptical to counteract tension on the belt and reduce stress peaks on it. And they went from a failure prone hydraulic tensioner to a more simple and reliable spring loaded tensioner. Clever little things like that let them raise the interval while using pretty much the same components.

    But I’d still say 90k miles or 10 years is the upper limit I would be consider pushing it in my personal car.
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    The shop I go to also suggested 10 years as another cap on its life; I had mine done at ~76k last year on an 07. Peace of mind is also worth quite a bit imo

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