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    Car ride hight uneven

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    Guys. Can someone please tell me why my car ride hight is not even ? I'm planning to change / upgrade the suspensions to some nonadjustable sport kit Koni or st ... etc but I want to make sure that the current suspensions is the cause of this and nothing else ,

    Thoughts , ideas ?







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    Mine is the exact same, front driver side is the highest. Rear passenger side is the lowest. The entire passenger side is lower than the driver side. I've had every answer from "that's just how they sit" to "your car is f#@ked". Suspension wise everything seems normal on mine. Even swapped in new springs and shocks. Same stance. I just ordered some coilovers so I can even it out that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by loki1080 View Post
    Mine is the exact same, front driver side is the highest. Rear passenger side is the lowest. The entire passenger side is lower than the driver side. I've had every answer from "that's just how they sit" to "your car is f#@ked". Suspension wise everything seems normal on mine. Even swapped in new springs and shocks. Same stance. I just ordered some coilovers so I can even it out that way.

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    That's good answer.
    So in your opinion shocks and springs kits will not even it out? You used OEM shocks and springs ? , for me in NZ it will cost a lot to get coilovers as we need to certify them :( for a decent amount of $$$ ( pure BS)


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    I thought new shocks and springs would sort mine out but the didn't. Probably worth getting it into a shop to have a look at all the bushings ect before dropping $$$ on new suspension. I have bilstein sport shocks and h&r sport springs. I'm upgrading to bilstein b14's.

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    Front lower and upper arms are replaced recently. I took it to a shop after I swapped the arms and they said : we cant find any obvious reason why it's sitting this way.
    I guess I have to keep looking or just ignore it.


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    It's normal, at least for the b7.
    My driver rear is higher then pass rear.
    Driver front just a bit higher than pass front.
    I currently have Koni yellow with eibach pro kit springs.

    I would think CO would solve this.



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    Quote Originally Posted by king_j View Post
    It's normal, at least for the b7.
    My driver rear is higher then pass rear.
    Driver front just a bit higher than pass front.
    I currently have Koni yellow with eibach pro kit springs.

    I would think CO would solve this.



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    How much drop you achieved ?


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    It's not slammed, but I like it.
    To give you a idea, 1 finger gap on pass side & 1 1/4" gap on driver side.


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    Quote Originally Posted by king_j View Post
    It's normal, at least for the b7.
    My driver rear is higher then pass rear.
    Driver front just a bit higher than pass front.
    I currently have Koni yellow with eibach pro kit springs.

    I would think CO would solve this.



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    I would suggest once you place your fat ass in the car, it would be even.;)
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    1) Check if all the damper/coil units have the same static length.
    2) Disconnect your stabilizer/anti-sway bars and see if that makes a difference. Also check if your bars are tweaked.
    3) Since your car is now on 4 jack stands (or blocks), you can check for suspension arm droop and resistance to movement.
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    It's normal. Have someone measure it while an average-sized adult male sits in the driver's seat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by king_j View Post
    It's normal, at least for the b7.
    My driver rear is higher then pass rear.
    Driver front just a bit higher than pass front.
    I currently have Koni yellow with eibach pro kit springs.

    I would think CO would solve this.



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    I had a huge discussion at a wv/audi meeting, I spoke with an audi tech and tuner shop tech, and we all realize that b7 got not only uneven height front/back, but also right/left.

    Then we walk to all B7 in the car show, and most of them got this.

    My assumption : car is balanced for lhd driving.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oVeRdOsE View Post
    I had a huge discussion at a wv/audi meeting, I spoke with an audi tech and tuner shop tech, and we all realize that b7 got not only uneven height front/back, but also right/left.

    Then we walk to all B7 in the car show, and most of them got this.

    My assumption : car is balanced for lhd driving.
    Then my assumption of bad springs is wrong, I was thinking to get shocks - spring kit and hopped it will be even. Now I'm worried if I went and bought this kit : https://www.ebay.com/itm/122226961702

    It will just make it look worse.


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    My car sits 3/4-1Ē higher in the front than in the rear. B5 spring perches can alleviate the front to rear difference (usually referred to as reverse rake on here). The height difference is more pronounced on sport suspensions than on non-sport as I never really noticed a major height difference on my old non-sport avant.

    But yea whoever tuned the ride height at the factory was out sick the day they dealt with the b7s as my b6 with sport suspension sat lower and much more even than my b7 does.

    I can try to post comparative pics but it will require some digging.
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    Definitely not normal. My car has 100k miles, stock sport suspension, springs, etc and my left and right ride heights are exactly equal.

    3.5cm in the back, and 4cm in the front. 0.1cm worth of difference....Measured today.
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    Itís important to note, side to side height is affected by slope in roads and driveways. So if itís not perfectly level thereís bound to be a slight difference. When I measured I measured twice facing both directions in the same spot. I think there was 1/4Ē variance between each simply due to the crown in the road.
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    I had the same issue when I had my b7. I remember reading somewhere it's set like this to account for when there is only one person in the car (aka the driver), then when the car would potentially be loaded at full capacity weight (shown on the door jam sticker where the tire pressure stats are). Although, I could be wrong. Either way, bring it in and I bet they say it's normal. Stop being so anal about it and enjoy the car!


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    Mine was even left to right on both my stock and St suspension
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick2011B8S4 View Post
    I had the same issue when I had my b7. I remember reading somewhere it's set like this to account for when there is only one person in the car (aka the driver), then when the car would potentially be loaded at full capacity weight (shown on the door jam sticker where the tire pressure stats are). Although, I could be wrong. Either way, bring it in and I bet they say it's normal. Stop being so anal about it and enjoy the car!


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    It will be anal when I buy the above suspension kit and it will more obvious since the gap will be smaller.
    And before you say it, I don't CO as it will cost a lot to certify it in nz.


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    You could make shims to go under the top hats

    Quote Originally Posted by Dondbg View Post
    It will be anal when I buy the above suspension kit and it will more obvious since the gap will be smaller.
    And before you say it, I don't CO as it will cost a lot to certify it in nz.


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    Quote Originally Posted by A4B7Avant View Post
    You could make shims to go under the top hats
    More info please or pic.


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    I mean you can make shims or a custom spring mount for the rears that would raise the ride height.

    As for the fronts, watch this vid of someone disassembling a front shock assembly,

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=9RFrbBmPrxk

    It wouldn't be too difficult to make a small ring shim that would go under the lower spring perch to raise the height.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dondbg View Post
    More info please or pic.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Okedokey View Post
    I would suggest once you place your fat ass in the car, it would be even.;)
    Hahaha! This... ^

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    So guys, If I bought this kit:

    http://www.tdcautomotive.com/koni-st...gs-amp-20.html

    Which offers 45mm, how the rear will be, as you can see from the pictures above a 45mm will / might case rubbing ? Or this will not happen since I'm lowering the front ( kinda dump question) I want to be sure before I click buy now.

    Thanks.


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    The height will be the height. Should be fine, it will settle after a while
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    If you measure from the ground to the fender arches, the front will be higher than the rear. It's because the front arches are bigger. The car is level, the arches are different.

    As far as left to right being different, I can't say but I wouldn't put it past the engineers to make the left side sit higher empty to account for a 200 pound person sitting in it.

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