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    Quote Originally Posted by Nczcar01 View Post
    Tom, What is your max boost in stock mode?
    Didn't take a proper reading yet. I'll get something tomorrow.

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    $170 is almost worth it for just the app interface.....wonder how accurate it is?

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    ...in stock form I have only been able to get the A4 up to the second branch. Hope to make it mid-way with the extra power......
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    Quote Originally Posted by wkhanna View Post
    $170 is almost worth it for just the app interface.....wonder how accurate it is?



    The app pictured is Torque. The app for Dinantronics is pretty crappy.
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    i want that Torque thingy you have.....where do you recommend i get it?

    EDIT: so Torque is the app.....which module are you using?
    i am looking at this one....BAFX Products 34t5 Bluetooth OBDII

    ...or can Carista do the same thing?

    i would just like to have convenient real-time dashboard via android phone to stuff like boost, oil temp, ect....
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    Same here but need one for iphone

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    Quote Originally Posted by wkhanna View Post
    i want that Torque thingy you have.....where do you recommend i get it?

    EDIT: so Torque is the app.....which module are you using?
    i am looking at this one....BAFX Products 34t5 Bluetooth OBDII

    ...or can Carista do the same thing?

    i would just like to have convenient real-time dashboard via android phone to stuff like boost, oil temp, ect....
    Carista OBD reader will do the same thing. I have this one: http://amzn.to/2CJJM9J

    Mine also works with the carista app to do coding and stuff. I think I'm going to have a dedicated android phone install just for Torque and Dinantronics
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    thanks for the info, Tom!
    greatly appreciated....

    i already have the HEX-V2 for scanning & programming, but this kit will give me the 'on-the-fly' feedback that i want
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    I'll be installing my Dinan module on Monday. I also have the torque app and Bluetooth OBDII so we can compare readings. I don't plan on using anything other than Sport+ though
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    Just plugged in my Dinan module and went for a short ride. Noticed an improved linear feel during normal acceleration. Was not able to make any wot runs, but lower rpm boost is improved.
    I connected via the Dinan app, and agree it is poor. One question I had...unit comes in Sport+ mode and tried to change to sport, back to Sport+, but unable to detect the change via the app. Does the app provide any feedback of switching between modes?

    As I pulled into the driveway, I thought about that second limb in that big oak tree.

    Edit: Figured it out, was not using App correctly. Had to ensure lower toggle was in correct position and noted incremental psi boost is displayed below boost gauge. Thanks JLAllroad.
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    From the B8 A5 forum

    Dinan plug/play tune for 2.0 A5... best hidden gem out there.
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    just installed the BAFX OBDII w/ Torque Lite.....

    this thing is V nize!
    for the $ its silly not to have one.....
    it does not replace my rosstech HEX V2 for diag or programming....but for heads-up real-time display...hard to beat, imho
    we just got 5 inches of snow, so i have not been able to take it out on the road yet.....cant wait till i do.....

    downloading Torque Pro now....
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    sorry to go OT here....but i finally got some readings on my boost level with my toy today...& have been worried that i may have a leaky waste gate.....
    reason being a persistent P0299 CEL code .......

    got 13 psi consistantly under wot......

    sound ok....or do i have a problem...?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wkhanna View Post
    sorry to go OT here....but i finally got some readings on my boost level with my toy today...& have been worried that i may have a leaky waste gate.....
    reason being a persistent P0299 CEL code .......

    got 13 psi consistantly under wot......

    sound ok....or do i have a problem...?
    Definitely not seen any codes here, even in race mode. I've had the car wide open several times and Torque has reported over 20psi (though I have yet to see over 16 ish in the Dinan tuning app, not sure which is real).
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    Quote Originally Posted by tominabox1 View Post
    Definitely not seen any codes here, even in race mode. I've had the car wide open several times and Torque has reported over 20psi (though I have yet to see over 16 ish in the Dinan tuning app, not sure which is real).
    i should clarify....my toy is the the Torque Pro app, not the Dinan plug-in... i am running stock, no Dinan plug-in......other than hfc, dp & injen intake.....
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    Bill,
    If Tomís boost psi numbers are correct, Dinan module adds 3psi boost in stock+ and 4psi in race mode, so backing into stock boost ~16-17 psi?? Not sure if this is correct or not.
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    yep, so feedback i am getting here & elsewhere is ~ 13 psi in stock config for the 1.8 & 2.0 K03 turbos.....

    just paranoid bout the status of my turbo, these 2011's & earlier are notorious for failing waste gates....

    but if i am getting 13 consistently at wot, i am proly ok...... despite the P0299 CEL....
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    Thatís good news. I too was curious about stock psi boost and had searched several forums after receiving the Dinan module.

    Found numbers all across the board...one even said he had his up to 50 psi.....mmmmm, sounds like bold talk from an one-eyed fat man (True Grit).

    Been out for the past week and have not driven my A4 since I have been back. Will see if I can get some stock numbers next time I am on the road.
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    I believe I read somewhere that the max boost the stock ECU could request was 16.1 psi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tominabox1 View Post
    I believe I read somewhere that the max boost the stock ECU could request was 16.1 psi.
    yep....for some reason i had that number in my head too......

    ....but my google skills are not the best & i am having no luck finding reliable / verified info.....

    still trying to find 'official' factory specs.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by wkhanna View Post
    yep....for some reason i had that number in my head too......

    ....but my google skills are not the best & i am having no luck finding reliable / verified info.....

    still trying to find 'official' factory specs.....
    LOL exactly. After I posted that I went looking for proof but posted numbers on here are all over the place.

    edit: looked some more. I'm beginning to think the actual base average is around 10 psi which would lead me to believe Torque Pro is not giving me accurate readings but the Dinan app (slow as it is) is providing realistic max boost numbers (14-16 psi) directly from the MAP sensor in Sport+/Race mode. It may be a calibration issue with Torque. I never could figure out what the setting is supposed to be (-14.7,0, or +14.7). Interesting that Torque shows vacuum all the time in idle and Dinan does not, maybe that's the key I'm looking for.
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    NA engines should have negative manifold pressure at idle....
    ....but i have no experience with turbos...

    when running Torque Pro, my boost pressure reads negative at idle.....which seems reasonable...to me....

    i was just hoping to get a boost pressure accuracy of +/- 0.5 psi if possible.....
    i realize i only paid $20 for the module & $5 for the app.....

    i will keep reading up the app settings & post some log of results later.....
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    i did a search on the turbo pro forum....

    i think we want to use the MAF config for our cars in the OBD2 adaptor settings / boost calculation method....

    i believe the MAF setting use the data as seen by the car's MAF....?

    the off-set (-14.7,0, or +14.7) is for compensating on the how the manufacturer defined their scale on their software.
    if it is set incorrectly your reading would be off by either +/-29.4 or +/- 14.7...i think....?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wkhanna View Post
    i did a search on the turbo pro forum....

    i think we want to use the MAF config for our cars in the OBD2 adaptor settings / boost calculation method....

    i believe the MAF setting use the data as seen by the car's MAF....?

    the off-set (-14.7,0, or +14.7) is for compensating on the how the manufacturer defined their scale on their software.
    if it is set incorrectly your reading would be off by either +/-29.4 or +/- 14.7...i think....?
    I did see someone say to use MAF as well. I'll try that on the drive home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tominabox1 View Post
    I did see someone say to use MAF as well. I'll try that on the drive home.
    me too...
    i had been on "Prefer MAP(Default)"
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    Somewhat off topic - do you guys know how to get the engine oil temp to show right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tominabox1 View Post
    Somewhat off topic - do you guys know how to get the engine oil temp to show right?
    i'm still looking into that, too......
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    I changed to the MAF sensor but I don't think it's right either . Max over 30? Not likely. Engine oil temp pid I tried isn't right either fwiw.

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    yep...that dont look right....

    roads were snow covered on the way home from work....no chance for wot measures......
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    Quote Originally Posted by wkhanna View Post
    yep...that dont look right....

    roads were snow covered on the way home from work....no chance for wot measures......
    I actually saw it over 50 for a sec so yeah....went back to MAP. We will see if wx works tomorrow for another test.

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    Went back to MAP, and put +14.1 in the settings for an adjustment and saw 20.4 psi on the way to work this morning (18F ambient air) in Race. I still think that's way off. My guess is it should be around 15 at most.
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    I don't know what to believe. I watched the Dynan meter today on the way to work in Stock mode and it peaked at 15.6 psi. I had my other phone watching the ECU in MAP mode with +14.7 or whatever in the settings and it peaked over 20 psi. As slow as it is, I get the impression that the Dynan is more real, although it too seems to be higher than I would expect in stock mode.
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    i am trying to figure out if the boost reading from Torque Pro is actually from a sensor or is the 'demand' signal from the ECU......

    Quote Originally Posted by tominabox1 View Post
    I don't know what to believe. I watched the Dynan meter today on the way to work in Stock mode and it peaked at 15.6 psi. I had my other phone watching the ECU in MAP mode with +14.7 or whatever in the settings and it peaked over 20 psi. As slow as it is, I get the impression that the Dynan is more real, although it too seems to be higher than I would expect in stock mode.
    i would be curious to see your Torque Pro readings when scale off-set is set to 0 instead of +14.7.....

    we really need to manifold pressure readings directly from the effing manifold via an analog gauge so we have true benchmark....!!!! grrrrr....

    i wish i had my podi guage installed......dammut!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by wkhanna View Post
    i am trying to figure out if the boost reading from Torque Pro is actually from a sensor or is the 'demand' signal from the ECU......


    i would be curious to see your Torque Pro readings when scale off-set is set to 0 instead of +14.7.....

    we really need to manifold pressure readings directly from the effing manifold via an analog gauge so we have true benchmark....!!!! grrrrr....

    i wish i had my podi guage installed......dammut!!!!
    I did some more reading and the type of fuel you put in the settings somehow impacts the boost readings. For most US fuels its E10. (unless you run exclusively E85 of course). Also important is engine displacement. I put 5L just to see what happened and it gave drastically different results, so its doing a lot more on the Torque side than just reading a sensor. I have not dialed in the correct value yet but I suspect with E10 set it will be closer to reality.
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    Ran it with fuel set to E20 based on the reading of ethenol fuel percentage reading of 18.4%. Peak reading of 18psi which is a little more realistic if you think the peak stock is 14. I still think it's not quite right but we may be on the right track.

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    Naturally, I finally got an unberboost code. 60k miles on the turbo so hopefully not a sign of anything. I'll keep it on Race for now and keep an eye on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tominabox1 View Post
    Naturally, I finally got an unberboost code. 60k miles on the turbo so hopefully not a sign of anything. I'll keep it on Race for now and keep an eye on it.
    you ever get the underboost cel before the piggyback was installed?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wkhanna View Post
    you ever get the underboost cel before the piggyback was installed?
    Nope.

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    i could not resist....

    ...just picked up a Dinan module in the classified section here.....

    ...wth...it was cheap..... i can play with it till i go APR stage II later this summer....

    i should have it by the end of the month.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by wkhanna View Post
    i could not resist....

    ...just picked up a Dinan module in the classified section here.....

    ...wth...it was cheap..... i can play with it till i go APR stage II later this summer....

    i should have it by the end of the month.....
    It's a great addition. As for the underboost CEL... I'm going to keep an eye on it but it may just be something we have to deal with without a proper ECU tune and not necessarily a cause for concern. I'll cruise around on stock for a bit this week and see how things go.
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    Hey guys,

    found this old Azine thread...thought i would share in case you have not already seen it.......
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