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    Quote Originally Posted by protogeoff View Post
    That sucks for you guys. Some Chevron stations out west have ethanol-free 94. I get noticbly better milage... Around .5 L/100.

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    I sure miss that 94 octane Chevron when I lived on Vancouver Island.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jschrauwen View Post
    I sure miss that 94 octane Chevron when I lived on Vancouver Island.
    God damn.. Makes me want to stop running my 94 map on my car... 30% ethanol? Been running 94 at petro for months and the range is awful. Makes sense now... I did enjoy the power gains.


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    Quote Originally Posted by spin0rz View Post
    God damn.. Makes me want to stop running my 94 map on my car... 30% ethanol? Been running 94 at petro for months and the range is awful. Makes sense now... I did enjoy the power gains.
    The nature of ethanol does allow one to run slightly higher boost compared to the same level octane with zero ethanol. Although it does take more ethanol to achieve the same amount of power per compression then non ethanol gas of the same octane rating.
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    I was a long-term Shell V-Power and then Shell Nitro user for all my cars. On my S6, with the EPL 93 tune, I got knocking and noticed timing was dialed-back during adaptation. Upon ECU reset (clearing faults), the car would slowly adapt and put out more power, and then knocking would occur, and car would dial back. With Petrocan 94, I am able to maintain the power after adaptation. I loved Shell and the mileage I used to get (about 0.5L/100km) but in my case a 93 tune requires 94 fuel. On my previous cars, Canadian 91 was good enough for the 93 tunes (APR, GIAC, Revo).
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    I'm using PetroCanada 94 because of my Revo Tune Stage 1, power is great and I do 400km with a full tank
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    Only 400km???, I'm on GIAC stage 2 and I get 620km in winter and 680-700km in summer. Using Ultramar 91 or shell 91


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    Quote Originally Posted by deucescorner View Post
    Only 400km???, I'm on GIAC stage 2 and I get 620km in winter and 680-700km in summer. Using Ultramar 91 or shell 91


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    On an S4 or A7? 3.0T or 2.0T? In mixed driving, I used to get 450-500km on my S4. About the same with the 4.0T in the S6.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GolfGL View Post
    On an S4 or A7? 3.0T or 2.0T? In mixed driving, I used to get 450-500km on my S4. About the same with the 4.0T in the S6.
    On the S4 mixed driving as long as I don't get too excited though lol


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    Quote Originally Posted by GolfGL View Post
    I was a long-term Shell V-Power and then Shell Nitro user for all my cars. On my S6, with the EPL 93 tune, I got knocking and noticed timing was dialed-back during adaptation. Upon ECU reset (clearing faults), the car would slowly adapt and put out more power, and then knocking would occur, and car would dial back. With Petrocan 94, I am able to maintain the power after adaptation. I loved Shell and the mileage I used to get (about 0.5L/100km) but in my case a 93 tune requires 94 fuel. On my previous cars, Canadian 91 was good enough for the 93 tunes (APR, GIAC, Revo).
    Is this a canned chip tune? From the USA? If so, then that 93 octane tune is probably based on a non ethanol 93 octane. You'd probably get the most from that tune using Shell 91 with an octane additive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by deucescorner View Post
    Only 400km???, I'm on GIAC stage 2 and I get 620km in winter and 680-700km in summer. Using Ultramar 91 or shell 91


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    I would like to do 650km on a tank, I mostly drive in the city, not on highway, is that realistic ?

    I could also change the preset of my tune for octane 91 and try with Shell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by deucescorner View Post
    On the S4 mixed driving as long as I don't get too excited though lol
    Quote Originally Posted by Francois View Post
    I would like to do 650km on a tank, I mostly drive in the city, not on highway, is that realistic ?
    Best I can do with my stock B8 S4 is 600-620km on the highway. City, 480-500 range in the winter and a little more in the summer.... getting in average 13.66/100km (17.2 mpg). Stop and go is a killer on mileage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jschrauwen View Post
    Is this a canned chip tune? From the USA? If so, then that 93 octane tune is probably based on a non ethanol 93 octane. You'd probably get the most from that tune using Shell 91 with an octane additive.
    Yes, it's a tune for the C7 S6 based on my ECU box code, not custom to my car (if that's what you meant). EPL is from Connecticut. Shell 91 with octane additive sounds like a lot of work for a daily-driver. If anything, I might flash their 91 tune, which is available to me on their server, and try it with the Shell 91 for comparison. Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by GolfGL View Post
    Yes, it's a tune for the C7 S6 based on my ECU box code, not custom to my car (if that's what you meant). EPL is from Connecticut. Shell 91 with octane additive sounds like a lot of work for a daily-driver. If anything, I might flash their 91 tune, which is available to me on their server, and try it with the Shell 91 for comparison. Thanks!
    I'd be interested to see/hear the results of that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Francois View Post
    I'm using PetroCanada 94 because of my Revo Tune Stage 1, power is great and I do 400km with a full tank
    Yikes!! My 2000 A4 2.8L would get ~ 330kms to 350kms for the first half tank on the highway. My 2008 A5 3.2L would get between 350kms to 370kms for the first half tank on the highway.
    Heck, even my TT 300ZX with 572rwhp/590rwtq after dyno tune gave me roughly 23mpg on the highway. Before the dyno, I was on a canned chipped tune and I had considerably poorer gas mileage and much less hp/tq.
    A dyno tune will always trump a canned chip tune every day, power-wise and gas mileage-wise. Win/Win
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    Quote Originally Posted by deucescorner View Post
    Like the title said, I've been doing some reading as of late and I'm trying to figure out which gas is best for our cars. I'm currently on a AWE/GIAC stage 2 setup. Daily driving on my 91 tune but i'm wondering if i should switch to using Petro 94. It's a little confusing because from what I've read some users say that the 10% ethanol found in Petro 94 gives better gas mileage and others say they get worse gas mileage. Some say Shell 91 causes their engines to have knocks others say they have no problems with it.

    Any input is greatly appreciated.

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    Hey buddy, I've actually used them both but never Esso. The Shell V-Power 91 is amazing, fuel in the city is terrible and I think that's just the car to be honest but highway is great close to 950km/tank. As for the Petro 94, I felt my car burn it a lot quicker and also not as responsive. I personally can't see Esso being better than Petro Canada so if Petro is bad Esso is worse. Shell V-Power in the US is 93 :D and believe me my car loved me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pr0n View Post
    Use what your car is tuned for.
    Exactly. Unless mileage comparisons are done exactly the same way in same temp, same distance same everything it doesnt really mean anything. Particularly with turbocharged engines. Same goes for acceleration.
    There have been all kinds of tests done regarding use of different octane fuels and in some instances efficiency and accel dropped. Almost all fuel comes from the same place and each company adds their own detergents etc.

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    While at the Tyandenaga Reservation stocking up on my cheap cigarettes at the Free-Flo gas station, I decided to check out the gas pump ethanol content. I confirmed with the station owner that the 91 octane is ethanol free. Bonus - cheap cigs and cheap gas. :)

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    I am doing 400km with my EPL Stage 2 s6 , 93 octanes ,using Petro Canada 94 before and after the tune , no complains . Same for my wife's EPL Stage 2 q5 93 octanes , same 400km range maybe a bit less . Most city driving
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanner View Post
    Best I can do with my stock B8 S4 is 600-620km on the highway. City, 480-500 range in the winter and a little more in the summer.... getting in average 13.66/100km (17.2 mpg). Stop and go is a killer on mileage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sport Line View Post
    I am doing 400km with my EPL Stage 2 s6 , 93 octanes ,using Petro Canada 94 before and after the tune , no complains . Same for my wife's EPL Stage 2 q5 93 octanes , same 400km range maybe a bit less . Most city driving
    if you check, you will see the price for 91 vpower is very high.. its actually only 2-3cent cheaper than petro94 in Quebec. Hence why i dont bother and fill up with petro94 with a 93octane tune. I should do some log tho.. maybe the tuner will tell me my gas is bad. I don't know.
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    Will only ever run Ultra94... JHM 93 tune... and I make gasoline for a living.

    From the Petro-Canada website...

    Does Ultra 94 contain ethanol? Does Petro-Canada still offer an ethanol-free gasoline?
    Ultra 94 contains ethanol. Due to the fact that various fuel grades are blended at the point of sale, most grades of Petro-Canada fuel may now contain up to 10% ethanol. This represents a change from the previous state, where premium fuel was ethanol-free at Petro-Canada.

    I've also found methods to check ... Methanol is an alcohol which is water soluble.... so this test will let you determine how much ethanol is in the gasoline... it's not as quantitative as you might like, but it'll be a neat little experiment to determine what grades have more/less ethanol. Additionally I've been looking to find if Petro-91 has ethanol... they're not too clear on whether it does or not.

    Here is how you check. First you can ask the attendant how often they check their gas for water. If they tell you twice a day then that gas station has not converted to ethanol free gas. If they check the tanks once a week or once every two weeks then that gas station has changed over to ethanol free gas at all blends. The other way to check for your own personal satisfaction is as follows. Take a 500ml water bottle and leave 1.5 inches of water in the bottle and mark that water line with a magic marker. Then fill the water bottle with gas to 3/4's full. Then shake the water bottle. Let the fluid settle and if the water level has risen then there is ethanol. If the water level stays the same then you have ethanol free gas.
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