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    Just curious, now that people have had the epl tunes for a while, other than speed/responsiveness, what is the impact on other aspects of performance such as fuel economy? I'm considering a used 15 sq5 that already has a stage 1 epl tune on it.
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    I've had my EPL tune for about 2 months now. I have no regrets. I flashed it back to OEM to go in for a 15K dealer service with no issues.

    I can drive conservatively and get high teens for MPG with all local driving or drive aggressively and get mid-16's around town.

    The one nice difference is the huge dose of extra HP and torque. I happened to recently beat the other car in our household from a stoplight up to about 60mph last week. That other vehicle is a 2016 Camaro SS with 8 speed automatic. Even with a good launch, the SS with a 455hp V8 was no match for the SQ5 with EPL tune. :)

    Quote Originally Posted by cohenfive View Post
    Just curious, now that people have had the epl tunes for a while, other than speed/responsiveness, what is the impact on other aspects of performance such as fuel economy? I'm considering a used 15 sq5 that already has a stage 1 epl tune on it.
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    Stage 2 ftw

    For those of you on the fence, do it!

    Go straight to stage two, you'll get the torque and horsepower that you want.

    I plan on taking this to the dyno in about a month or so, whenever I get a chance

    And my gas mileage is already better.


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    Be sure to post those dyno results.
    Mine dyno'd at 454 HP, 427 LB-FT.
    I'm APR stage 2 with only the 034 intake hose and AWE NRDP's.
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    Chris - Do you know of anyone looking to transfer an EPL tune? I'm in Dallas, TX and have a 2014 bone stock SQ5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justinSQ5 View Post
    Chris - Do you know of anyone looking to transfer an EPL tune? I'm in Dallas, TX and have a 2014 bone stock SQ5.
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    So I persuaded the wife to get an SQ5 on labor day and now will come the EPL stage 2 tune. My question is, is there finally a TCU tune for us?
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    Senior Member Four Rings riceboy22's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by kpykng1 View Post
    So I persuaded the wife to get an SQ5 on labor day and now will come the EPL stage 2 tune. My question is, is there finally a TCU tune for us?
    The only tuner Iím aware of thatís working on a TCU tune is APR, and thereís no telling if/when it will actually be available. They are going to need one though if they want the ultracharger to be viable on this platform.
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    Quote Originally Posted by riceboy22 View Post
    The only tuner Iím aware of thatís working on a TCU tune is APR, and thereís no telling if/when it will actually be available. They are going to need one though if they want the ultracharger to be viable on this platform.
    ^this

    APR has a beta tcu tune in an A6 with the 3.0T and ZF. I can't imagine they release anything before next spring though, and even that might be wishful thinking.

    Last I had spoke with Chris a month or two ago, he said EPL hadn't made any significant progress on the tcu, and they were too swamped to even review customer logs. Didn't sound like it was even a working project for them at this point.
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    EPL tune on SQ5, anyone running it?

    I'll probably wait for the time being for the usual EPL holiday sales. I'll be focusing on the tint, stance, and wrap for the time being. Thanks all
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    Quote Originally Posted by kpykng1 View Post
    I'll probably wait for the time being for the usual EPL holiday sales. I'll be focusing on the tint, stance, and wrap for the time being. Thanks all
    Let me know when you are ready. The Q5 and SQ5 files are set to run at higher RPMs if you do the Auto upshift delete via VAGCOM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris@EPL View Post
    Let me know when you are ready. The Q5 and SQ5 files are set to run at higher RPMs if you do the Auto upshift delete via VAGCOM.
    Can I do the auto upshift delete now? How? It bugs me so much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kpykng1 View Post
    Can I do the auto upshift delete now? How? It bugs me so much.
    Not on the stock tune as they do not carry the fueling to higher RPMS and it is only when you are in the M mode. Did you want to do Stage 1 or Stage 2? Shoot me an email and I will see what I can do.
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    Just did the Stage 2 upgrade on my '17 Q5. I went with the JHM 179 crank pulley and EPL's Stage 2 93 octane tune, upgrading from Stage 1.

    No hard numbers to report yet. I realize the Q5 does not have some of the extra cooling capacity of the SQ5, but seems to have lower diff gearing. The reflash was easy (once I remembered to turn off anti-virus protection). I do like the oversized one piece crank pulley option as opposed to the more common smaller S/C pulley. I was able to do the pulley swap without having to put the car in service position.

    Preliminary observations are that the car does pull harder down low. The S/C turning faster means full boost earlier in every gear. Low rpm grunt is noticeably stronger. An informal pull this a.m. of 0-100 mph on my usual flat, level "private driveway" was one full second faster than with Stage 1 pull at the same location. Ambient temps are cooler, though, so I'll not make that claim just yet. Power delivery is silky smooth at all throttle positions and gears. No drivability vices whatsoever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris@EPL View Post
    Let me know when you are ready. The Q5 and SQ5 files are set to run at higher RPMs if you do the Auto upshift delete via VAGCOM.
    didn't realize there was an auto upshift delete we could do via VAGCOM. are all stage 1 files ok for this or do i need an updated file?
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    Debating if I should do DP setup for winter and wait for IC for next spring. I have stage2 as of now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by One Nice Audi View Post
    Debating if I should do DP setup for winter and wait for IC for next spring. I have stage2 as of now.
    IAT get pretty crazy once you're DP and have a 3+ ratio. I'd personally suggest doing it right the first time and upgrading your cooling. You'd see a benefit from that even with Stage 2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris@EPL View Post
    Not on the stock tune as they do not carry the fueling to higher RPMS and it is only when you are in the M mode. Did you want to do Stage 1 or Stage 2? Shoot me an email and I will see what I can do.
    You sure? There have definitely been people who reported disabling auto upshift on stock vehicles with success.

    Quote Originally Posted by MSq5 View Post
    Just did the Stage 2 upgrade on my '17 Q5. I went with the JHM 179 crank pulley and EPL's Stage 2 93 octane tune, upgrading from Stage 1.

    No hard numbers to report yet. I realize the Q5 does not have some of the extra cooling capacity of the SQ5, but seems to have lower diff gearing. The reflash was easy (once I remembered to turn off anti-virus protection). I do like the oversized one piece crank pulley option as opposed to the more common smaller S/C pulley. I was able to do the pulley swap without having to put the car in service position.

    Preliminary observations are that the car does pull harder down low. The S/C turning faster means full boost earlier in every gear. Low rpm grunt is noticeably stronger. An informal pull this a.m. of 0-100 mph on my usual flat, level "private driveway" was one full second faster than with Stage 1 pull at the same location. Ambient temps are cooler, though, so I'll not make that claim just yet. Power delivery is silky smooth at all throttle positions and gears. No drivability vices whatsoever.
    Quote Originally Posted by One Nice Audi View Post
    Debating if I should do DP setup for winter and wait for IC for next spring. I have stage2 as of now.
    I'd be willing to bet any stage 2 Q5 starts to lose considerable power after 10+ sec at WOT without improved cooling. You have the exact same setup as the B8.5 S4s, and it's so common for those guys to scream bloody murder about their dyno numbers and 1/4 mile times. Then, they go and claim the 'tune isn't working properly' when most of the time it's simply high IATs...that they don't bother to log or monitor.

    Personally, I wouldn't run any 3.0T higher than stock pulley ratio without additional cooling. Think about it- Audi added cooling to the SQ just for the stock 354hp tune, and we're talking about WAY more boost with standard stage 2 between keeping the bypass closed and spinning the charger faster. The SQ is the one platform that I might be okay with a 2.82 PR in a cooler climate, but it will still suffer on long pulls or repeated runs. And, it goes without saying that no one should be doing any kind of pulley ratio mods without properly monitoring the car.

    Quote Originally Posted by riceboy22 View Post
    IAT get pretty crazy once you're DP and have a 3+ ratio. I'd personally suggest doing it right the first time and upgrading your cooling. You'd see a benefit from that even with Stage 2.
    You know already that I see 75C+ on the regular and have had a number of 1/4 mile of runs with 85C and the bypass opening up by 4th gear with just a 2.96 PR. These ecus are smart, but anytime the bypass opens due to IAT, you're in a territory you shouldn't be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by azndrunk74 View Post
    didn't realize there was an auto upshift delete we could do via VAGCOM. are all stage 1 files ok for this or do i need an updated file?
    Yes you should be fine.
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    Get yourself an AMS cooler. I run one with a 3.36 pulley ratio, and my IATs stay nice and low in the fall, winter, and spring here in California (I don't know about summer because I don't go to the strip when it's that hot). It isn't uncommon for my IATs to start in the high 30s and end in the high 50s on a 1/4 mile run.
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    EPL tune on SQ5, anyone running it?

    Thank you Chris! Flashed my Stage 1 tune this morning, and was up and delivering around town within no time at all. I love EPL!
    Last edited by kpykng1; 09-16-2017 at 08:02 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spijun View Post
    NO COMMENT:

    Aston-Martin Vantage Power: The Vantage's 5935 cc (362.1 ci) engine reaches its peak power of 591 bhp (440 kW) @ 7000 rpm. 0 to 60 mph (96.6 kph) in 3.5 seconds

    Audi R8 Plus S-Tronic 5.2 V10 5204 cc (317.5 ci) engine reaches its peak power of 542 bhp (404 kW) @ 8000 rpm. 0 to 60 mph (96.6 kph) in 3.5 seconds

    Audi A6 RS6 or RS7 Power: 3993 cc (243.6 ci) engine reaches its peak power of 597 bhp (445 kW) @ 6100 rpm 0 to 60 mph (96.6 kph) in 3.6 seconds

    Ferrari California Power: The California's 3855 cc (235.2 ci) engine reaches its peak power of 552 bhp (411 kW) @ 7500 rpm. 0 to 60 mph (96.6 kph) in 3.5 seconds

    Pagani Huayra Power: The Huayra's 5980 cc (364.9 ci) engine reaches its peak power of 700 bhp (521 kW) @ 6300 rpm. 0 to 60 mph (96.6 kph) in 3.5 seconds

    BMW 6 Series Power: The 6 Series's 4395 cc (268.1 ci) engine reaches its peak power of 592 bhp (441 kW) @ 6000 rpm 0 to 60 mph (96.6 kph) in 3.8 seconds


    S4 with your tuning, faster than RS6 / RS7 - I'm sorry but just cannot believe
    stfu downer. Dragging this whole thread down with negativity man.

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    Anyone with the recall flash running epl tune?
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    Stage 2 Banner Advertiser Four Rings Chris@EPL's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by rusq5 View Post
    Anyone with the recall flash running epl tune?
    Yes most all are, we have all of the updated files.
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