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    I have done it on my A8, RS6 420mm ceramic brakes easy plug and play but then you have to do a coding as in rainy weather it does not brake :(
    I can get complete new set RS6 ceramic brakes for a very good price.
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    Steel brakes lighter than CCB?

    This is some interesting stats...

    My understanding was that Carbon Ceramic discs are lighter than still discs...
    It's not the case here?


    Quote Originally Posted by LittleDevil View Post
    Weight saving. Weight difference between S7 and RS7 ceramic is because RS7 have aluminium hats.

    RS7 Steel Brakes 390/356mm:

    Front Calipers with Pads and Wear Sensors = 8.05kg each
    Rear Calipers with Pads and Wear Sensors = 5.60kg each
    Front Disc 390x36mm = 13.80kg each
    Rear Disc 356x22mm = 7.25kh each

    RS7 Ceramic Brakes 420/370mm:

    Front Calipers with Pads and Wear Sensors = 9.75kg each
    Rear Calipers with Pads and Wear Sensors = 6.50kg each
    Front Disc 420x40mm = 8.25kg each
    Rear Disc 370x30mm = 4.55kg each

    S6, S7, S8 Ceramic Brakes 400/370mm:

    Front Calipers with Pads and Wear Sensors = 9.75kg each
    Rear Calipers with Pads and Wear Sensors = 6.50kg each
    Front Disc 400x38mm = 8.45kg each
    Rear Disc 370x30mm = 6.75kg each

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    what about drilled and slotted steel rotors? as a compromise for sake of cost

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    Quote Originally Posted by riki18 View Post
    I have done it on my A8, RS6 420mm ceramic brakes easy plug and play but then you have to do a coding as in rainy weather it does not brake :(
    I can get complete new set RS6 ceramic brakes for a very good price.
    Do you happen to know the coding info? I upgraded to the RS6 brakes on my S6 and wet weather braking is for sure sketchy vs stock brakes. THX

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    Fitting steel breaks to ceramic version

    Hello and sorry to revive this thread, i am looking to buy a used S6 and found one with Ceramic brakes which is not bad in itself, however i'm not looking forward to replacing them when the time comes :)

    Did anyone successfully replace Ceramics with Steel brakes? Any conclusions if this is possible by just simply fitting the standard brakes to the Ceramic calipers?

    Thanks for any info on this!

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    From what i have been told, if you drive the car normally (so no hard pushing track 'abuse')..they should last a lifetime and if they don't get damaged (as they are fragile) it is only pads you have to worry about :).
    (one of the reasons why i also looked for a S6 with ceramics :) and found).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dasquade View Post
    From what i have been told, if you drive the car normally (so no hard pushing track 'abuse')..they should last a lifetime and if they don't get damaged (as they are fragile) it is only pads you have to worry about :).
    (one of the reasons why i also looked for a S6 with ceramics :) and found).
    Thanks for the info, feels reassuring to hear that! I heard rumors, that but was a little skeptic.

    Still it would be nice to know that, IF the time comes, we can switch to steel. :)

    In theory, per the size, this should not be a problem. But maybe coding is needed as mentioned above?

    Cheers!

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    Referenced this thread a bunch so want to add to it.

    Coding - I've seen on VCDS and other Audi forums a good number of people trying to hunt down the coding. Still not really a figured out thing because the long coding just has no descriptors. Little Devil and other audizine members have had some luck but nothing concrete.

    Found this on another forum and this i believe applies to all new Audi cars and wet weather. These cars are well engineered and logical, if auto wipers are on and the rain sense is activated by the car it can and does quite a few things from what I've noticed. There is coding to have your windows close when rain is sensed to give you an idea how they tie things together.

    Rain sense - I've noticed my head lights come on even though the MMI screen does not go into night mode from being in auto mode.
    Rain sense - I believe all newer cars will active brake wipe as stated below. I always noticed how grundgy my wheels were when driving in the rain even though the car was cleaned up prior to it raining so the below explains some of that.

    From A8 D4 (including Q7 V12)
    -Brake disc wipe function is activated if the rain sensor is switched to active (i.e. the intermittent wipe lever must be actuated)
    -Brake disc wipe function is deactivated if the interval between wiper activations is longer than 30 seconds, even if the intermittent or rain sensor is active.
    -Speed at which it is switched on and off (vehicle speed) is the same at 80 km/h
    -The wiping interval for GG brakes is every 3 km, and every 1 km for ceramic brakes (i.e. not distance and time-dependent)

    The disc wiper is for steel or ceramics to dry the surface so rain fade is less apparent. This is from a CCB car and OBDEleven.


    I wet with the 400/370 kit to keep wheel selection a little more open.




    Interesting caliper profile, left is towards the face of the wheel.


    Test fitting, while the front calipers look massive they aren't too different visually beside the ends hugging the disc.



    Caliper clearance to wheels is not very different either, the ceramics are wider but the front set up needs a different dust/splash shield because the disc is inset a bit more even though both steel and ceramic are 400mm.

    Same impact spot at the point closest to the hub. I would imagine that the 420mm kit would actually clear this impact point because the calipers are the same as the 400 kit but the bracket to the spindle is different so the radius of the closest physical point is pushed outward.


    Rear, no need to change the dust/splash shield. We had to use a different brake line though.



    Some photos collected. Notice the reflective surface, the discs are fairly raw when new so bed in rotors have a different appearance.



    Difference between 400 and 420. Caliper position away from the hub is easy to see here and the raw surface of new discs.



    original and a bit of reflective surface after some bed in of the brakes.



    Graphics, dimensions are below.
    Front is basically 4 wide
    Rear is basically 3 wide



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    Ceramic rear plate vs. RS plate difference.


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    Still hunting for the correct coding, haven't looked at the ABS module since getting the car back so we'll see how it goes.
    ///TWCompetition 2016 S6

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    Quote Originally Posted by fatherdeath View Post
    what about drilled and slotted steel rotors? as a compromise for sake of cost
    Since you're over in Europe. Saw this on another thread. http://www.ultimot.de/ looks like some decent looking drilled rotor option for front and rear for the C7.
    ///TWCompetition 2016 S6

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