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    Veteran Member Three Rings sickspeed's Avatar
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    Avant Garde wheels cast or forged?

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    whats a good budget forged wheel for a B8 avant?
    2001 S8 or 2011 Q7 TDI Modded.

    Previous Audis: Red 1987 4000 CS, Dolphin 2002 A4 3.0 6MT Sedan, Atlas 2003 A4 3.0 6MT Wagon, Dolphin 2006 A4 2.0T 6MT Wagon w/ 19" VMR RS4s/ECS snub/K&N/GIAC/Milltek/35% tint/RS4 rear sway/Koni shocks/Neuspeed springs, Meteor 2009 A4 2.0T Wagon S-Line 20x9" et35 VMR 710s, 245/30/20 Hankooks, KW adjustable springs, EC HFC, HFICP, and HFTIH, aFe drop-in, Unitronic Stage 2.

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    They are cast, anything that cheap will be cast. Budget and forged don't go together. If you are on a budget than you will most likely have to settle with getting a high quality cast wheel, otherwise finding a set of used forged wheels would work.

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    Also just throwing out my opinion but I think 18s look too small on b8s. 19s sit perfect IMO

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    Veteran Member Three Rings sickspeed's Avatar
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    thanks for the response. i am actually putting 20s on my B8, hence, why im a bit more sensitive to wheel strength this time. i already have stock s-line 19s so if im gonna do wheels, might as well go with 20s for the summer. im considering the BC Forged wheels as well but really just dont like the idea of spending too much on wheels. a good cast wheel will probably suffice.
    2001 S8 or 2011 Q7 TDI Modded.

    Previous Audis: Red 1987 4000 CS, Dolphin 2002 A4 3.0 6MT Sedan, Atlas 2003 A4 3.0 6MT Wagon, Dolphin 2006 A4 2.0T 6MT Wagon w/ 19" VMR RS4s/ECS snub/K&N/GIAC/Milltek/35% tint/RS4 rear sway/Koni shocks/Neuspeed springs, Meteor 2009 A4 2.0T Wagon S-Line 20x9" et35 VMR 710s, 245/30/20 Hankooks, KW adjustable springs, EC HFC, HFICP, and HFTIH, aFe drop-in, Unitronic Stage 2.

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    The Avant Garde lineup of wheels are low pressure cast and are more than strong enough for an everyday street driven vehicle. Though not enforced, there are quality standards to govern the production of wheels. Some countries though, like Germany and Japan, have government regulations requiring aftermarket wheels to meet certain criteria and ensure proper fit. The United States has taken steps to establish guidelines but it will be some time before they can enact regulation of any kind. Consequently, all wheels are not made the same. The performance of an alloy wheel is a direct result of the manufacturing technique employed.

    I do want to educate you on the quality and strength of wheels. In terms of the hierarchy of quality and strength the list goes from lowest to highest as follows: gravity cast, low-pressure cast, flow form, and forged. Take into consideration also that all of the wheels that come standard from most car manufactures straight from the factory are Low-pressure cast at a minimum.

    Gravity Casting:
    Gravity casting is the most basic process of pouring molten aluminum into a mold utilizing the earth's gravity to fill the mold. Gravity casting offers a very reasonable production cost and is a good method for casting designs that are more visually oriented or when reducing weight is not a primary concern. Since the process relies on gravity to fill the mold, the aluminum is not as densely packed in the mold as some other casting processes. Often gravity cast wheels will have a higher weight to achieve the required strength.

    Low pressure Casting
    Low pressure casting uses positive pressure to move the molten aluminum into the mold quicker and achieve a finished product that has improved mechanical properties (more dense) over a gravity cast wheel. Low-pressure casting has a slightly higher production cost over gravity casting. Low pressure is the most common process approved for aluminum wheels sold to the O.E.M. market. Low-pressure cast wheels offer a good value for the aftermarket as well. Some companies offer wheels that are produced under a higher pressure in special casting equipment to create a wheel that is lighter and stronger than a wheel produced in low pressure. Once again in the quest for lighter weight, there is a higher cost associated with the process.

    Flow form aka Rotary Forging:
    This specialized process begins with a low pressure type of casting and uses a special machine that spins the initial casting, heats the outer portion of the casting and then uses steel rollers pressed against the rim area to pull the rim to its final width and shape. The combination of the heat, pressure and spinning create a rim area with the strength similar to a forged wheel without the high cost of the forging. Some of the special wheels produced for the O.E.M. high performance or limited production vehicles utilize this type of technology resulting in a light and strong wheel at a reasonable cost.

    Forged
    The ultimate in one-piece wheels. Forging is the process of forcing a solid billet of aluminum between the forging dies under an extreme amount of pressure. This creates a finished product that is very dense, very strong and therefore can be very light. The costs of tooling, development, equipment, etc., make this type of wheel very exclusive and usually demand a high price in the aftermarket.

    Multi-Piece wheels
    Multi piece wheel utilizes two or three components assembled together to produce a finished wheel. Multi-piece wheels can use many different methods of manufacturing. Centers can be cast in various methods or forged. The rim sections for 3-piece wheels are normally spun from disks of aluminum. Generally, spun rim sections offer the ability to custom-tailor wheels for special applications that would not be available otherwise. The rim sections are bolted to the center and normally a sealant is applied in or on the assembly area to seal the wheel. This type of 3-piece construction was originally developed for racing in the early 1970s and has been used on cars ever since.

    We carry a wide variety of wheel choices so feel free to drop me a pm, send me an email at Alan@modbargains.com or give me a call here at 714-582-3330 x 8006 and I'd be more than happy to discuss this all in a bit more detail with you!

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