034 Bipipe Owners

[AudiNFS]

Does anyone else's drivers side pipe fit a little funny? The DV is sitting way different on drivers vs. Passenger side.

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[AudiNFS]

Bump?

[Meow]

Does anyone else's drivers side pipe fit a little funny? The DV is sitting way different on drivers vs. Passenger side.

fixed for you.

[Griecos4]

The diverter valve hose is held real tight against the oil dipstick holder. My fan was hitting the drivers side bipipe. Very poor fitment on these pipes for such a simple design and the welds on the passenger bi pipe show but the drivers side doesent go figure. Poor design. With all the problems people had jhmotorsports plays dum when you call them and they say they never had any problems with them. Frigin liars.

[AudiNFS]

Close up. Everything fits correctly, the driver's DV just fits funny.

[NefMoto]

I trimmed my fan to get extra clearance around the drivers side pipe.

[SAUDI01.5]

I cut the hoses on both sides that 034 provided...Fits well now.

[Max@034]

There is very little space on the driverside, and there isn't much you can do on this side of the motor to help fitment. Where the bipipe sits is dependent on where your intercooler and intercooler hose sit, what throttle body boot you are using, how far the bipipe sits in the throttle body boot, how you rotate the bipipe, etc. All of these things can affect fitment, especially in such close quarters.

However, there are a very large amount of these bipipes in circulation, and they were test fit on a variety of B5 S4's before being produced. There were no fitment issues, and the oil dipstick is malleable enough to move it out of the way if you have issues. You may also need to trim your silicone or y-pipe hose accordingly, depending on the rest of your fitment.

They do fit the car; I've personally run these before I went single, and all of our employees with B5 S4's also run them. No trimming of the fan is necessary if you take your time and ziptie it out of the way at the bottom intercooler connection. However, it certainly doesn't hurt, and it is only the very inside tip of the fan that needs to be trimmed; nothing that will affect operation, only a few millimeters in most cases.

Some diverter valves are larger then others, and will require more work to fit. There is no guarantee that these put your diverter in the 100% exact same position as stock, since stock has fitment issues with larger diverters as well. Each person will have a slightly different fitment, but we install these regularly here @ 034Motorsport on customer cars, without issue or complaint.

[AudiNFS]

Just to clear things up, EVERYTHING DOES FIT AND CAR RUNS FINE AND BOOSTS FINE. I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH FITMENT, JUST THE ANGLE OF HOW THE DRIVER'S SIDE DV SITS AS COMPARED TO THE PASSENGER SIDE.

The driver's DV is rocked further back, as seen here. Has anyone encountered this issue and how did you fix it? It doesn't look like trimming up and rubber/silicone will do the trick here.



I bring it up because it just does not look good when you open up the hood. Passenger's side fits great and DV sits like stock, driver's side does not.

[RolledMySTi]

I have the exact same problem with mine. The dv hose is smashed against the dipstick. I modified where the dipstick connects by the water pump to get more room, had the lock carrier off so I had plenty room to work with, redid it a dozen times and it still was smashed against the dipstick. Here is a pic of what mine looks like.



My passenger side doesn't fit quite right either. It rubs on part of the lock carrier. Not too bad, but enough were it has worn off a little bit of the wrinkle finish. I spent a good 10 minutes trying and retrying to get it to fit without rubbing, but no luck. I have an 034 throttle body boot too.

While they don't fit perfect they do fit good enough. The welds all look great as does the wrinkle finish. I really like the stock look of them and would recommend them. Here is how they look installed.



I installed a Vast efk at the same time so I can't comment on the fan issues.

[Meow]

so it works, fits, runs and drives fine, doesn't leak and you are still complaining because it sits an weird angle? damn that is picky... This is custom stuff, made by an aftermarket company, not an OEM billion dollar buisness with loads of engineers (teams of them) figuring out fitment and perfection. Just because it sits a bit low you think its broken? and you do call it broken when you say "how do I fix it"

The driver's DV is rocked further back, as seen here. Has anyone encountered this issue and how did you fix it? It doesn't look like trimming up and rubber/silicone will do the trick here.

seems like you are being WAY too picky about non-oem custom parts man...


Edit* that seemed a bit harsh, sorry. I understand the fact you want it to look nice and clean, but not all cars are exactly the same and so some tweaking of the pipes and hoses may be required to make it fit exactly like a stock looking car. Even though it works perfect the way it is now...

[AudiNFS]

I understand what you're saying Meow. I was seeing if anyone had encountered it/fixed it. I've seen cars where their DV's sit perfectly like stock though, and that's why I brought it up. For all I know I could have possibly gotten a slight mistake on my bipipe set and it would have been a simple fix. This is only my second time modding a car. First time was an A4 and all that had that was modded was a boost gauge and a FMIC. Then the car died sadly. Nonetheless, I'm talking to Max and trying to get things sorted out. Sure I can live with it sitting different, but if it CAN be fixed or MAY have been a bad batch, then I of course would like to have it fixed. If my car is just a little different or whatever, then it is what it is.

Like I said, only my second time around modding cars, not exactly sure how every single mod should/shouldn't work.

[Meow]

Like I said, only my second time around modding cars, not exactly sure how every single mod should/shouldn't work.

good shit! keep modding, its sooooo addicting....

[AudiNFS]

At this point, trying to figure out how to get the DVs back in OEM orientation. That's how I had them at first, but then the passenger's side line melted because it looked like this:


Melted right the through line right off the DV nipple where it bends. High temp. silicone my a$$. Looks like I'll be going with cloth braided line. From the looks of things I'll also have to trim the driver's side DV bipipe hose to get it to fit in OEM orientation. This car

[Meow]

god these engine bays suck! there is so little room for anything, good luck twisting and spinning stuff around to get it to fit.

[Griecos4]

So you have to ziptie it out of the way so it doesnt hit the fan. Bullshit. Thats not good fitment and they should be redisgned or the customer should be notified before purchasing. And then when i contacted jhmotorsports about this issue they never heard of this heard of this happening. Ya right.


TE=Max@034;7677409]There is very little space on the driverside, and there isn't much you can do on this side of the motor to help fitment. Where the bipipe sits is dependent on where your intercooler and intercooler hose sit, what throttle body boot you are using, how far the bipipe sits in the throttle body boot, how you rotate the bipipe, etc. All of these things can affect fitment, especially in such close quarters.

However, there are a very large amount of these bipipes in circulation, and they were test fit on a variety of B5 S4's before being produced. There were no fitment issues, and the oil dipstick is malleable enough to move it out of the way if you have issues. You may also need to trim your silicone or y-pipe hose accordingly, depending on the rest of your fitment.

They do fit the car; I've personally run these before I went single, and all of our employees with B5 S4's also run them. No trimming of the fan is necessary if you take your time and ziptie it out of the way at the bottom intercooler connection. However, it certainly doesn't hurt, and it is only the very inside tip of the fan that needs to be trimmed; nothing that will affect operation, only a few millimeters in most cases.

Some diverter valves are larger then others, and will require more work to fit. There is no guarantee that these put your diverter in the 100% exact same position as stock, since stock has fitment issues with larger diverters as well. Each person will have a slightly different fitment, but we install these regularly here @ 034Motorsport on customer cars, without issue or complaint.[/QUOTE]

[Sean_]

...Most aftermarket bipipes I've seen need trimming of the fan, it's really not that big of a deal. Look at your original bipipes - there is barely any room between them and the fan as it is. What did you think would happen when you ordered bipipes with a larger diameter to fit in the same cramped space?

I have to say I've encountered the same fitment issue with the dipstick, but it just took a bit of careful 'massaging' of the dipstick to get a fitment I was happy with.

AudiNFS - Your problem is arising from the orientation of the driver's side upper intercooler hose, and not from some 'defect' in the bipipe. Twist that hose around a bit and you'll see a difference in the positioning of the bipipe. Easy fix.

[AudiNFS]

...Most aftermarket bipipes I've seen need trimming of the fan, it's really not that big of a deal. Look at your original bipipes - there is barely any room between them and the fan as it is. What did you think would happen when you ordered bipipes with a larger diameter to fit in the same cramped space?

I have to say I've encountered the same fitment issue with the dipstick, but it just took a bit of careful 'massaging' of the dipstick to get a fitment I was happy with.

AudiNFS - Your problem is arising from the orientation of the driver's side upper intercooler hose, and not from some 'defect' in the bipipe. Twist that hose around a bit and you'll see a difference in the positioning of the bipipe. Easy fix.

Can't really twist it a whole lot because of how it fits into the TBB. I'll just let it go. As Meow has stated and RolledSTI has shown, it could be worse

[S4 00 2.7]

OP, why not have your bipipes powdercoated or painted? That line right before the TBB would bug me. Im OCD like that!

[AudiNFS]

OP, why not have your bipipes powdercoated or painted? That line right before the TBB would bug me. Im OCD like that!

Have you not seen my FMIC thread I don't really like black at all and blue (color of my car) is "rice" so shiny metal piping is my next best option. But I see where you're coming from. I can always powercoat later on though.

[Audone]

Mine fit without any trimming or zipties.. just have to put them in loosely and play around with them before tightening. I cant recall if the DV is off a bit.. but then again that wouldnt bother me.

[Timtheguru]

Originally these bi-pipes were being made by ARDesign and they had a 2.0" size and a 2.25" size kit, the 2.25" kit required that you have an EFK (Electric Fan Kit) in place of the stock fan. The 2.0" kit did not require trimming of the stock fan.

Fitment is tight, that's just the way it is for anything on this car. You must use silicone hoses and stronger clamps for a more FIRM fitment so that it stays where you fit it. It takes a while, and I hate removing them, but I still love my 2.0" ARD pipes with meth bungs. I've had them for a few years now without any problems with the fan, but that's because I take the time to fit it.

If they were to warn people about the fan, well, people would still buy these.

[S4 00 2.7]

Lol why is this thread turning into this

Because b5 s4 section.

[speedracer9k]

Mine are a little off but I got it to fit to my satisfaction.

[smit2100]

Originally these bi-pipes were being made by ARDesign and they had a 2.0" size and a 2.25" size kit, the 2.25" kit required that you have an EFK (Electric Fan Kit) in place of the stock fan. The 2.0" kit did not require trimming of the stock fan.

Fitment is tight, that's just the way it is for anything on this car. You must use silicone hoses and stronger clamps for a more FIRM fitment so that it stays where you fit it. It takes a while, and I hate removing them, but I still love my 2.0" ARD pipes with meth bungs. I've had them for a few years now without any problems with the fan, but that's because I take the time to fit it.

If they were to warn people about the fan, well, people would still buy these.

Was looking at pulling the trigger on the 034 bi pipes instead of the ARD 2" pipes because the bungs for the meth are not visible, but not keen on cutting the fan or the offset on the dv valves. Would installation of an electric spal high flow kit ensure no cutting of the fan and forge DV's lining up like stock.

[AudiNFS]

Was looking at pulling the trigger on the 034 bi pipes instead of the ARD 2" pipes because the bungs for the meth are not visible, but not keen on cutting the fan or the offset on the dv valves. Would installation of an electric spal high flow kit ensure no cutting of the fan and forge DV's lining up like stock.

It would ensure no cutting. I have an electric fan kit

[joeSfour]

Just so you can see how my 034bipipes look, no fan issues or DV issues.

[joeSfour]

My DVs fit great, looks almost symmetrical to me. Someone out there will probably find it useful for overall fitment.