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Can anyone tell me what coilovers I picked up and how much they are worth?
I picked these up at the junkyard but they are for a b6. Not for my car but I thought I could flip them easily for the price I paid for them. Can anyone tell me what coilovers these are? They are obviously kw coilovers I don't think they are the st's since it doesn't say st anywhere on them. These are the only thing close to part numbers I got off them. The rear struts are also purple if that helps distinguish them. I've also searched and can't find anything, I think they might be street comforts or v1s.
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Did you google the part numbers off the stickers?
The rear shocks look rusted which leads me to believe they are old meaning lots of miles.
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 Originally Posted by Greedo
Did you google the part numbers off the stickers?
The rear shocks look rusted which leads me to believe they are old meaning lots of miles.
Yes I did still didn't find much. Also I am in New England so Rust can happen fast because of the salt on the roads and snow.
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Here I found you a excel spreadsheet of all KW info.
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...1EBJmTYzHNRaSg
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Yes, but KW uses a galvanized body which they claim is pretty rust resistant which is what leads me to believe those have some miles.
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 Originally Posted by DrnknCamel
thanks but this didn't really help much. I can't find any of the part numbers that I have on there
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http://www.kw-store.com/extras/docs/...ah68610035.pdf
scroll down a tad and there's the number 100 1006. should give you more info to google
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they look like V1's in really bad shape. I understand it's New England and all, better get a New England buyer that understands....
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when i bought my v1's i was told that KW has a lifetime warranty... something to look into
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You seem to be missing the rear perches too
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Those appear to be old v1's.
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 Originally Posted by nazisled
Thanks so it is probably V1s
 Originally Posted by the sheriff
they look like V1's in really bad shape. I understand it's New England and all, better get a New England buyer that understands....
So how much will I be able to sell them for?
 Originally Posted by theboss
when i bought my v1's i was told that KW has a lifetime warranty... something to look into
I doubt they are lifetime but I will look into it.
Edit: guess they are lifetime. Will I be able to get the rust fixed by warranty even though I'm not the original owner?
 Originally Posted by EBG 18T
Those appear to be old v1's.
Thanks this reassures my assumption
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 Originally Posted by onceover
You seem to be missing the rear perches too
nope I have those and they're mint. I can turn them by hand they're so good
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 Originally Posted by theboss
when i bought my v1's i was told that KW has a lifetime warranty... something to look into
Odds are, the lifetime warranty applies only to the original purchaser. I've seen a few suspension items that are like that.
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Would $800 be a reasonable asking price for these?
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reasonable if you don't want to sell them...
your main issue is
A. they look like garbage
B. you don't know how many miles are on them
C. they are rusty
D. You already stated all of the above and that they came from a junkyard.
I am looking for coilovers myself, but wouldn't spend a dime on those.
Sorry for being harsh but, im honest.
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 Originally Posted by crazexr7
Would $800 be a reasonable asking price for these?
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I just sold a set of new-style V1s in much better condition, with brand new rear perches and springs, and 15k miles total for $700 shipped. You have the first-gen V1s with helper springs. You will be lucky to get $400 plus shipping man. They look kinda beat. I have dealt with KW in the past though, so I may be interested in them for one of my B6s.
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truth!!!
 Originally Posted by CoreyRS
reasonable if you don't want to sell them...
your main issue is
A. they look like garbage
B. you don't know how many miles are on them
C. they are rusty
D. You already stated all of the above and that they came from a junkyard.
I am looking for coilovers myself, but wouldn't spend a dime on those.
Sorry for being harsh but, im honest.
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OK thanks for the honesty guys I would be completely fine getting 400 for them I guess. I'm going to clean them up right now they look bad but I'm good at getting things to look good
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$250-350 would be reasonable. $800 is a pipe dream.
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 Originally Posted by EBG 18T
$250-350 would be reasonable. $800 is a pipe dream.
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i think the unknown mileage is the biggest factor because no one will want to spend a chunk of money on something they dont know how long it will last for..
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 Originally Posted by 04_A4_1.8T
i think the unknown mileage is the biggest factor because no one will want to spend a chunk of money on something they dont know how long it will last for..
I think the fact that these have a lifetime warranty really back up the fact that these are quality coilovers. Seriously you guys act like these are a piece of shit but they're not. They are in actually pretty good shape besides the rust. If I had the choice of buying racelands brand new or these I would pick these over those. I'm sure anyone who has had v1s can back me up. The only reason I thought of 800 is because I have no idea wtf to ask. These were originally $1600 coilovers if you actually read in the pdf.
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 Originally Posted by crazexr7
I think the fact that these have a lifetime warranty really back up the fact that these are quality coilovers. Seriously you guys act like these are a piece of shit but they're not. They are in actually pretty good shape besides the rust. If I had the choice of buying racelands brand new or these I would pick these over those. I'm sure anyone who has had v1s can back me up. The only reason I thought of 800 is because I have no idea wtf to ask. These were originally $1600 coilovers if you actually read in the pdf.
HAD a lifetime warranty...I don't think it carries over to rusty products from a junkyard. But the rust IS a big deal, so I wouldn't quite say they are in good shape...can you tell how deep the rust goes?
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 Originally Posted by CoreyRS
HAD a lifetime warranty...I don't think it carries over to rusty products from a junkyard. But the rust IS a big deal, so I wouldn't quite say they are in good shape...can you tell how deep the rust goes?
My point remains valid that these are quality coilovers. Even if the lifetime warranty is void excluding original purchaser kw still made these ******s to last. I can check tomorrow and see how bad the rust is. Honestly It shouldn't be a big deal. I just want to get these out of my fucking garage and pick up some coils for my b5. I thought I could flip these easily and pick up a set but after this thread I just don't fucking know.
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I would take a new, non-rusted coilover setup over a used, unknown mileage, rusted set of coils any day personally. Just to many unknowns with the used ones, and despite having had a lifetime warranty on them before, they could only last 2 days as one doesn't know the extent of the corrosion or how they were used before they ended up in the junkyard.
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 Originally Posted by imnuts
I would take a new, non-rusted coilover setup over a used, unknown mileage, rusted set of coils any day personally. Just to many unknowns with the used ones, and despite having had a lifetime warranty on them before, they could only last 2 days as one doesn't know the extent of the corrosion or how they were used before they ended up in the junkyard.
They were only in the junkyard for 2 weeks. My buddy let me know of the car that rolled into the junkyard where he works. Honestly they can be rebuilt if they ever go. That's literally the only strut that has rust also. The fronts are good and the other rear is good. All the perches are fine, especially for the rear which I mentioned I can move BY HAND. If you don't like them fine, but I'm sure I can find someone who will take them. If someone takes them for 400, they can be rebuilt I've read for about $100 per strut. If all 4 happen to go you're only down around $800 still far less than buying them brand new.
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 Originally Posted by crazexr7
They were only in the junkyard for 2 weeks. My buddy let me know of the car that rolled into the junkyard where he works. Honestly they can be rebuilt if they ever go. That's literally the only strut that has rust also. The fronts are good and the other rear is good. All the perches are fine, especially for the rear which I mentioned I can move BY HAND. If you don't like them fine, but I'm sure I can find someone who will take them. If someone takes them for 400, they can be rebuilt I've read for about $100 per strut. If all 4 happen to go you're only down around $800 still far less than buying them brand new.
Well, the only problem with that is that KW started selling ST coilovers, which is basically the V1 setup, and they list at $799 brand new, with several retailers selling them considerably cheaper. If you want to make money off these, send them in to KW and get them rebuilt. Or sell them for what you paid for them and just move on. PM me if you want to sell them quick.
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 Originally Posted by crazexr7
I think the fact that these have a lifetime warranty really back up the fact that these are quality coilovers. Seriously you guys act like these are a piece of shit but they're not. They are in actually pretty good shape besides the rust. If I had the choice of buying racelands brand new or these I would pick these over those. I'm sure anyone who has had v1s can back me up. The only reason I thought of 800 is because I have no idea wtf to ask. These were originally $1600 coilovers if you actually read in the pdf.
$1600 was the suggested retail. From many vendors today you can almost buy a Set of v3's for that. Just because something offered a lifetime warranty Does mean squat. That was for the receipt bearing original owner.
The v1 rear shocks are not rebuildable. When they blow you either buy a new one or if under warranty get a new one from kw. I don't know about the fronts on the v1. When i blew a front v3 they just sent a new one, I sold them shortly there after.
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Just to add something to the actual discussion here, the front pair could actually be used on a B5 if desired. All you need to do is change out the bushing where the shock attaches to the lower control arm. Switch the B5 bushing for a B6 bushing and you're in business. You could get those bushings for free from a B6 guy with a pile of worn out CA's with bad ball joints - you just need to harvest the bushings.
And I agree with the OP. The fronts (at least) are Stainless steel, so a little cleanup and they are good to go. Only the mileage would be of concern. Coming from NW PA, the rust on the rear shock is quite laughably minimal. A wire wheel and a rattle can of Rustoleum paint and you're sale-able. And the fact they came from salvage yard doesn't diminish their value unless the stuff was actually damaged.
With them cleaned up, I think you could find a buyer at $500-600. If I was selling them, having not running them on my car, I would offer at least a 90 guarantee along with that. If there is any problem with them after install, full money back or partial refund if we can come to an agreement.
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 Originally Posted by walky_talky20
Just to add something to the actual discussion here, the front pair could actually be used on a B5 if desired. All you need to do is change out the bushing where the shock attaches to the lower control arm. Switch the B5 bushing for a B6 bushing and you're in business. You could get those bushings for free from a B6 guy with a pile of worn out CA's with bad ball joints - you just need to harvest the bushings.
And I agree with the OP. The fronts (at least) are Stainless steel, so a little cleanup and they are good to go. Only the mileage would be of concern. Coming from NW PA, the rust on the rear shock is quite laughably minimal. A wire wheel and a rattle can of Rustoleum paint and you're sale-able. And the fact they came from salvage yard doesn't diminish their value unless the stuff was actually damaged.
With them cleaned up, I think you could find a buyer at $500-600. If I was selling them, having not running them on my car, I would offer at least a 90 guarantee along with that. If there is any problem with them after install, full money back or partial refund if we can come to an agreement.
Thanks walky, Today I'm cleaning them up, and getting rid of the rust. The 90 day guarantee is a great idea. It comes with that at the junkyard already so I would be happy to do that if they go wrong. And I would run these if the rears weren't so different from my car.
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I actually picked up an entire set of B6 bilsteins myself. I was planning on just using the fronts by switching out the aforementioned bushing. This was a while ago and that bushing was not readily available through aftermarket channels, so it would have been $70 for the pair of bushings. So I sold them to a very happy B6 owner and got some ST coils. I just checked and that bushing is now available. ECS has them for $7 each.
http://www.ecstuning.com/Search/8E0_...1_C/ES2568266/
Being ES# 2568266 (and 265 for the Meyle version) it looks like it was added very recently. I think the highest ES# at the moment is 2568421.
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KW V1 is nearly the same as the ST coils. ST coils are typically found brand new on sale for around $750 shipped. The only difference (if you're not aware) is the housing, otherwise the components are the same.
That should give you some insight as where to start your asking price from. New coils can be had for an affordable price, so you need to think realistically on what a set of "unknown" coils are worth. (unknown refers to mileage)
PS: don't get so bent out of shape when people give an opinion on a question you asked. You bought something from a junkyard; given the environment you purchased them in should give you an idea of what the condition will be perceived as by anyone who reads your thread.
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 Originally Posted by Greedo
PS: don't get so bent out of shape when people give an opinion on a question you asked. You bought something from a junkyard; given the environment you purchased them in should give you an idea of what the condition will be perceived as by anyone who reads your thread.
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and like I said.....us West Coast people rarely see anything rust so for there to be rust on parts, my wallet would stay closed 100% - while it many be minimal for you guys that are used to it. I wouldn't put those on my car if they were free.
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Exactly... I was just speaking from the mind of a potential buyer... I have been looking at coilovers for a few months now and I know kw makes a decent setup... Like I said before people tend to not like the unknown which is why people may shy away from these... If a new setup is going for 750$ then I think you should be able to get 300-400$ out of these possibly... Just need to find the right buyer
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I understand the unknown miles but a little rust is really nothing to be afraid of. I think what's going on here is a lot of you guys commenting are from the west coast and are not used to seeing rust where with us it's expected. I just got off the phone with kw who said they do rebuilds for the front for $125 and the rears struts if they ever go bad can be replaced for $145. They also said rust can happen on the rear struts due to it being galvanized, if it were stainless steel it would not be the case. Which is why the fronts look much better. All are in working condition though, no oil leaking or anything and it's not blown. I think $450 is a reasonable price, for these considering the mileage is unknown and they do not need a rebuild. All I want is to get enough so I can source a set used for my b5 and I think it's pretty manageable to the right buyer.
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 Originally Posted by crazexr7
I understand the unknown miles but a little rust is really nothing to be afraid of. I think what's going on here is a lot of you guys commenting are from the west coast and are not used to seeing rust where with us it's expected. I just got off the phone with kw who said they do rebuilds for the front for $125 and the rears struts if they ever go bad can be replaced for $145. They also said rust can happen on the rear struts due to it being galvanized, if it were stainless steel it would not be the case. Which is why the fronts look much better. All are in working condition though, no oil leaking or anything and it's not blown. I think $450 is a reasonable price, for these considering the mileage is unknown and they do not need a rebuild. All I want is to get enough so I can source a set used for my b5 and I think it's pretty manageable to the right buyer.
Yep....with the right buyer, anything is possible. That said, the right buyer is going to be in your neck of the woods as this west coast guy doesn't touch anything with rust. I'm originally from Portland, ME - so I know what you're talking about - I just don't do it still....
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 Originally Posted by crazexr7
I understand the unknown miles but a little rust is really nothing to be afraid of. I think what's going on here is a lot of you guys commenting are from the west coast and are not used to seeing rust where with us it's expected. I just got off the phone with kw who said they do rebuilds for the front for $125 and the rears struts if they ever go bad can be replaced for $145. They also said rust can happen on the rear struts due to it being galvanized, if it were stainless steel it would not be the case. Which is why the fronts look much better. All are in working condition though, no oil leaking or anything and it's not blown. I think $450 is a reasonable price, for these considering the mileage is unknown and they do not need a rebuild. All I want is to get enough so I can source a set used for my b5 and I think it's pretty manageable to the right buyer.
Yea dude, go for it. Worst that can happen is it doesn't sell. Did you find out anything about the warranty?
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