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    DSG Slipping - car revving, but not going anywhere

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    It's happening more and more often - almost 2 times a day now. Coming out of a turn, usually in 3rd or 4th gear, the car revs, but doesn't move. Almost got into an accident today because the car just sits there for a couple seconds..

    Going to Audi with it - but who knows what will come out of that.

    Anyone ever get this? Stats - 2011 dsg, apr stg 2 V2, ect.

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    Probably something wrong with clutch acutation. Mechatronics maybe?
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    Sounds like the clutch packs are slipping . I've seen this on Evo's with the dual clutch trannies and the torque is too much for the tranny to handle.
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    I had this issue...Audi ended up replacing the mechatronics. All good since.
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    I had this issue...started out like yours Fonzie then got progressively worse, to the point where I had no acceleration at all. It would rev up but wouldn't move. Took it in and the clutches were running way too hot. Audi ended up replacing the mechatronics - 2 weeks in since replacement and all has been good.
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    If your clutches are slipping, shouldn't it be consistent? Not just occasionally under specific conditions? Given how complicated the controls on the DSG are, it could be a SW issue.

    Definitely would like to hear the Audi position on this one given your state of tune. Your car is the poster child for TD1. Let us know what they say.

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    Issue with Mechatronics, (Sometimes it just does not shift or engage); http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...=1#post5004373
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    Thank you guys very much. You were a huge help

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    Fonz,Similar situation. I have DSG, and had 2 incidents.
    1- Downshifted 4-3 in a turn, lost power and stalled.
    2- Downshifted 4-3 making turn, go to step on throttle, nothing. Revs to 3k and nothing. I'm now coasting from turn. Depress accelerator multiple times before it wakes up and resumes as if nothing happened.
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    Of note, never had cel from these 2 incidents.
    Good luck w it, keep us posted Fonz

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    Seems there are a LOT of auto tranny problems with this car. Glad I got the 6MT

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    I had a Multitronic B6 A4 a few years back and had nothing but problems with it. I'll always buy a manual whilst they still make them.

    I hope you get it sorted. Does sound clutch pack related...

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    For those who got this fixed.. What was the cost?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrFunk View Post
    Seems there are a LOT of auto tranny problems with this car. Glad I got the 6MT
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrFunk View Post
    Seems there are a LOT of auto tranny problems with this car. Glad I got the 6MT
    There aren't a lot of issues with the DSG in these cars. Most of the "issues" are normal behavior that people don't like sometimes. For example jerking when coming to a stop or the tachometer not reaching redline during hard acceleration.
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    I'm having the same issue but I know I will get the TD1 flag. Just waiting it out til I can't stand it anymore. Seems to only happen when I'm in comfort/auto. Never have the issue in Dynamic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by QSonx View Post
    I'm having the same issue but I know I will get the TD1 flag. Just waiting it out til I can't stand it anymore. Seems to only happen when I'm in comfort/auto. Never have the issue in Dynamic.
    No point in waiting really.. if you're going to get TD1, it'll happen regardless of when you go to service. I don't think the tuners will be releasing a fix anytime soon, since they'd mention it if that was the case.

    If your car does indeed have an issue, you run the risk of causing more damage not repairing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by audisarecool View Post
    No point in waiting really.. if you're going to get TD1, it'll happen regardless of when you go to service. I don't think the tuners will be releasing a fix anytime soon, since they'd mention it if that was the case.

    If your car does indeed have an issue, you run the risk of causing more damage not repairing it.

    Goodluck
    Has only happened three time and I might just ship my ECU back to get it's original flash back on it. Just waiting for free time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IanVr6 View Post
    There aren't a lot of issues with the DSG in these cars. Most of the "issues" are normal behavior that people don't like sometimes. For example jerking when coming to a stop or the tachometer not reaching redline during hard acceleration.
    The problem the OP is having (as well as others on this thread) are not those mentioned by you. I've read several threads about problems with the tranny that is not the quirks of a dual clutch but actual warantee claims and issues. I really don't feel like going through all the threads and posting them here either... but I konw I've read them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by QSonx View Post
    Has only happened three time and I might just ship my ECU back to get it's original flash back on it. Just waiting for free time.
    Any APR dealer can flash you back to stock. No need to pull the ECU
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fonzie@DipYourCar View Post
    Thank you guys very much. You were a huge help
    Fonzie are you still under warranty? And still have the tune? If so, please report back as to how the dealer handles your situation.

    This little DSG gremlin is the only thing that gives me some concern about TD1 right now. I'd hate to have to pay for a new mechatronics when this is clearly an issue even with stock cars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by audisarecool View Post
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    Seriously...

    Are you sure your prior name isn't nintendodude?

    What about giovanni0330?

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    Quote Originally Posted by svander View Post
    Seriously...

    Are you sure your prior name isn't nintendodude?

    What about giovanni0330?
    lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by tins5 View Post
    For those who got this fixed.. What was the cost?
    I'm wondering the same thing.. How much to replace mechatronics out of pocket anyone have any idea?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrFunk View Post
    The problem the OP is having (as well as others on this thread) are not those mentioned by you. I've read several threads about problems with the tranny that is not the quirks of a dual clutch but actual warantee claims and issues. I really don't feel like going through all the threads and posting them here either... but I konw I've read them.
    I think you are possibly mixing this up with the common DSG problem of sometimes it doesn't know to go up a gear rather than down so it may take a second to get into gear. This is a whole different issue but it is part of the DSG characteristic. The difference here is Fonzie is already in gear and it is slipping. The other issues mostly when you brake going into a corner or slowing down then suddenly accelerate, the transmission is preparing to go down a gear but now that you want to accelerate the DSG tranny will get confused and it will take a second or so to make the change. In the mean time you accelerate and all you get is noise but the car is not in gear yet.

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    stg 2 apr? Good luck with it hope they don't already have you flagged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by helix139 View Post
    Any APR dealer can flash you back to stock. No need to pull the ECU
    Not if you are V 1.0. And after it is back to stock I will need to send it back to them to get V 2.0 put on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by QSonx View Post
    Not if you are V 1.0. And after it is back to stock I will need to send it back to them to get V 2.0 put on it.
    I don't think this is true. The ECU will allow the stock file to be flashed even if it is locked because the signatures check out / match indicating it is a legitimate Audi file that the ECU should allow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by QSonx View Post
    Not if you are V 1.0. And after it is back to stock I will need to send it back to them to get V 2.0 put on it.
    Wrong. You can have it port flashed to stock at any APR dealer even if you are V1.0. Since it is a stock Audi flash with the proper keys, the ECU doesn't need to be unlocked to flash it. I've seen it done. You do have to send it in to get any tune put back on, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pgr1990 View Post
    I'm wondering the same thing.. How much to replace mechatronics out of pocket anyone have any idea?
    Not sure as mine was covered under warranty.
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    I'd estimate the part alone in the $900-$1000 range. Labor, that's a whole other story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by riegeraudi View Post
    I think you are possibly mixing this up with the common DSG problem of sometimes it doesn't know to go up a gear rather than down so it may take a second to get into gear. This is a whole different issue but it is part of the DSG characteristic. The difference here is Fonzie is already in gear and it is slipping. The other issues mostly when you brake going into a corner or slowing down then suddenly accelerate, the transmission is preparing to go down a gear but now that you want to accelerate the DSG tranny will get confused and it will take a second or so to make the change. In the mean time you accelerate and all you get is noise but the car is not in gear yet.
    So, the other issue of the transmission failing to get into gear and just revving up when you hit the accelerator is a known, normal issue that doesn't have a fix?
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    Man oh man,this makes me kinda weary in getting a (non Stasis)tune as I have a stock ECU and every once in a while I get a THUD or clunk when coming to a stop from the DSG 2-1 downshift.Hope you don"t get this TD1 flag I keep hearing about as this would suck royally to pay out of pocket for this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by asm777 View Post
    So, the other issue of the transmission failing to get into gear and just revving up when you hit the accelerator is a known, normal issue that doesn't have a fix?
    I'd say it's fairly well known. It has happened to me. Here's a similar thread:

    http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...ith-this-issue

    Seems that for most people it doesn't develop (or hasn't yet developed) into something requiring a repair, but some have had to get a new mechatronics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by riegeraudi View Post
    stg 2 apr? Good luck with it hope they don't already have you flagged.
    thanks. waiting on dealer response mon-tues. will update asap

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fonzie@DipYourCar View Post
    thanks. waiting on dealer response mon-tues. will update asap
    You could be the guinea pig for flashing the ECU to the stock file. I'll buy some PlastiDip from you if you do. lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by QSonx View Post
    You could be the guinea pig for flashing the ECU to the stock file. I'll buy some PlastiDip from you if you do. lol
    That's exactly what I just did. Reflashed back to Stock, dropped the car off for a final diagnosis. If they fix it under warranty, wonderful. If they refuse, I'll be GT-R shopping in a week. (half kidding..)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fonzie@DipYourCar View Post
    That's exactly what I just did. Reflashed back to Stock, dropped the car off for a final diagnosis. If they fix it under warranty, wonderful. If they refuse, I'll be GT-R shopping in a week. (half kidding..)
    Did you remove the pulley?

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    I did not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fonzie@DipYourCar View Post
    I did not.
    I thought I read somewhere that it would throw some sort of overboost code if you run the pulley with stock SW.

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