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    FMIC sooner or later?

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    Want to get the car up to stage 2+ eventually. I live in FL, been real hot and i can feel the lose in power. Is it better to get the FMIC sooner? or is the money spent better elsewhere for a more dramatic gain? chip is already done

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    Well like you said, with summer approaching, if you want to continue to enjoy the performance, a FMIC would be a good choice, and if you can spring it, a w/m system. Heat soak will set in pretty quick, I presume down there in FL.
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    Would AWE be the best one on the list? I see a lot of people throwing that name around often. Is it the best mod to do after chipping if you're in a hot state like FL? and how noticeable is it? Thanks in advance. You guys are the best!

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    Yo man, I lived in Orlando when I bought my A4 back in 2008, and the first thing I did once I felt heat soak after 1 WOT run was to get Euro Teknik out in Sanford (don't know if they are still open) to put an AWE FMIC on my car. In the middle of the summer a few weeks later, there was a meetup, and we did a run on the back roads around Clearwater, hitting WOT throttle off and on for over an hour straight, and never once felt a loss of power. And I have never felt heat soak since. Take it from someone that has been in that boat, it is the best mod I have ever done. I've never driven a car with a different FMIC to see if they prevent heat soak as well or for as long as that, but if you can afford it, I would recommend the AWE FMIC fo sho!
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    Quote Originally Posted by reggaemylitis View Post
    Yo man, I lived in Orlando when I bought my A4 back in 2008, and the first thing I did once I felt heat soak after 1 WOT run was to get Euro Teknik out in Sanford (don't know if they are still open) to put an AWE FMIC on my car. In the middle of the summer a few weeks later, there was a meetup, and we did a run on the back roads around Clearwater, hitting WOT throttle off and on for over an hour straight, and never once felt a loss of power. And I have never felt heat soak since. Take it from someone that has been in that boat, it is the best mod I have ever done. I've never driven a car with a different FMIC to see if they prevent heat soak as well or for as long as that, but if you can afford it, I would recommend the AWE FMIC fo sho!
    Do you ever run hot? I'm a little skeptical of having an intercooler covering my radiator especially in hot place.

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    Not that I ever saw. Not had one issue from my FMIC in over 4 years now. Paid for itself long ago by having power ready whenever I've needed it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by M1k3 View Post
    Would AWE be the best one on the list? I see a lot of people throwing that name around often. Is it the best mod to do after chipping if you're in a hot state like FL? and how noticeable is it? Thanks in advance. You guys are the best!
    If you have the cash, yes.

    Evolution racewerks is the best in my opinion... for nothing other than it doesn't require relocating your air con evap, and its so very sexy with its black anodization.
    (awe needs to relocate air con... right?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Operator View Post
    Well like you said, with summer approaching, if you want to continue to enjoy the performance, a FMIC would be a good choice, and if you can spring it, a w/m system. Heat soak will set in pretty quick, I presume down there in FL.
    I guess he's stage 1 since he said "chip is already in", so wouldn't he get more gains from a K&N drop in, TP and stage 2 tune? That's even cheaper. TP = $70 for a new VMR, K&N = $40 + the tune which should be free, or at least the labor like what, half an hour? I understand the FMIC would help with the heat soak but I would still go stage 2 first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shiro1745 View Post
    I guess he's stage 1 since he said "chip is already in", so wouldn't he get more gains from a K&N drop in, TP and stage 2 tune? That's even cheaper. TP = $70 for a new VMR, K&N = $40 + the tune which should be free, or at least the labor like what, half an hour? I understand the FMIC would help with the heat soak but I would still go stage 2 first.
    This. Sure the AWE is "the best", but for the cost, you could do better. If you are mechanically inclined, you could do a custom intercooler setup and water meth yourself for the same cost or cheaper, and have better results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M1k3 View Post
    Would AWE be the best one on the list? I see a lot of people throwing that name around often. Is it the best mod to do after chipping if you're in a hot state like FL? and how noticeable is it? Thanks in advance. You guys are the best!
    "Best" is a debate I choose not to go into. But I will say, most of the IC's on that list will benefit you during the summer and the heat that will accompany it. Depending on your budget, all the choices shoud be a viable option.
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    Exactly why I "" best. It's actually the ONLY proven fmic that I know of, so there is nothing to compare it to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shiro1745 View Post
    I guess he's stage 1 since he said "chip is already in", so wouldn't he get more gains from a K&N drop in, TP and stage 2 tune? That's even cheaper. TP = $70 for a new VMR, K&N = $40 + the tune which should be free, or at least the labor like what, half an hour? I understand the FMIC would help with the heat soak but I would still go stage 2 first.
    I had this discussion in another thread at some point, I think. But my idea is, what fun is the extra power if you can't use it as often. If this thread was made in say September with the winter months approaching, I'd agree with you. But with the hot Florida summer ahead of the OP and heatsoak a big issue, I'd go for cooling. Arbitrary numbers here: Summer time and you have 225hp with your FMIC. You ride around for an hour or so doing spiritied driving. During which your FMIC helps prevent heatsoak, so you get to enjoy all 225hp the entire drive. Summer time you have StgII with 250hp and no FMIC. You do for a drive, and the 1st 10mins you have all 250 ponies. After that heatsoak sets in, and for a majority of the drive, you are down to 215-220hp. Just loose examples. the pwer loss due to heatsoak could be less, but it could be more.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by reggaemylitis View Post
    Yo man, I lived in Orlando when I bought my A4 back in 2008, and the first thing I did once I felt heat soak after 1 WOT run was to get Euro Teknik out in Sanford (don't know if they are still open) to put an AWE FMIC on my car. In the middle of the summer a few weeks later, there was a meetup, and we did a run on the back roads around Clearwater, hitting WOT throttle off and on for over an hour straight, and never once felt a loss of power. And I have never felt heat soak since. Take it from someone that has been in that boat, it is the best mod I have ever done. I've never driven a car with a different FMIC to see if they prevent heat soak as well or for as long as that, but if you can afford it, I would recommend the AWE FMIC fo sho!
    Exactly what I was looking for, thanks for posting. appreciate it. I know exactly everywhere you said lol. They are still kick'n and are the guys that did my chip

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    I had this discussion in another thread at some point, I think. But my idea is, what fun is the extra power if you can't use it as often. If this thread was made in say September with the winter months approaching, I'd agree with you. But with the hot Florida summer ahead of the OP and heatsoak a big issue, I'd go for cooling. Arbitrary numbers here: Summer time and you have 225hp with your FMIC. You ride around for an hour or so doing spiritied driving. During which your FMIC helps prevent heatsoak, so you get to enjoy all 225hp the entire drive. Summer time you have StgII with 250hp and no FMIC. You do for a drive, and the 1st 10mins you have all 250 ponies. After that heatsoak sets in, and for a majority of the drive, you are down to 215-220hp. Just loose examples. the pwer loss due to heatsoak could be less, but it could be more.....
    Good points worth considering. It's not even summer full blast here and my car's internal was reading 101 in an area where was shaded for a good portion of the day @_@

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    Quote Originally Posted by Operator View Post
    "Best" is a debate I choose not to go into. But I will say, most of the IC's on that list will benefit you during the summer and the heat that will accompany it. Depending on your budget, all the choices shoud be a viable option.
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    Anyone know how the Evolution Racewerks ACTUALLY stands up to the AWE?

    Its about 2/3 the size... but does that really make a difference?
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    If your doing a FMIC, might as well pick up a HFC or Test pipe, HPFP & go stage 2+ at one time...... that's what I would do with summer approaching :)
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    Quote Originally Posted by vdubjetta02 View Post
    If your doing a FMIC, might as well pick up a HFC or Test pipe, HPFP & go stage 2+ at one time...... that's what I would do with summer approaching :)
    Well, yeh, if he has an extra $900 laying around
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    Noice! Glad they are still in business! I miss that FL labor rate! I had to start doing everything myself when I moved to CA, as I wasn't going to pay the insane costs of getting work done out here!

    And Operator, from my experience, it was way faster than 10 minutes, and WAY more loss of power. IIRC when I was Stage 1 pre-FMIC, it was maybe 2 pulls tops, and then it felt like the turbo fell off the car. Almost complete loss of power. Can Meth do the job of an FMIC preventing heat soak and add power? If so, I may have considered that, had I known more about Meth, which it seems I still don't. But if Meth works in conjunction with an FMIC to make even more power or prevent heat soak than either alone, I would do an FMIC and then Meth (which I still plan to do).
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    Quote Originally Posted by reggaemylitis View Post
    Noice! Glad they are still in business! I miss that FL labor rate! I had to start doing everything myself when I moved to CA, as I wasn't going to pay the insane costs of getting work done out here!

    And Operator, from my experience, it was way faster than 10 minutes, and WAY more loss of power. IIRC when I was Stage 1 pre-FMIC, it was maybe 2 pulls tops, and then it felt like the turbo fell off the car. Almost complete loss of power. Can Meth do the job of an FMIC preventing heat soak and add power? If so, I may have considered that, had I known more about Meth, which it seems I still don't. But if Meth works in conjunction with an FMIC to make even more power or prevent heat soak than either alone, I would do an FMIC and then Meth (which I still plan to do).
    Yeh, w/m works great in tandem with a FMIC. not only do you get the power increase from the methanol, but the cooling properties help keep heatsoak at bay.
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    My opinion. FMIC now.

    I did it right before summer heat last year and it was worth it. Htown gets 100+ nearly every day and the fmic helped a lot compared to the little stock ones.

    So I vote FMIC now. Save up, then drop w/m and exhaust, tune, apr hpfp etc.

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