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    Quote Originally Posted by boosted_A6 View Post
    Do those DP's have a bung for the egt's or just for the O2?


    I spoke with my mechanic, hes currently doing to the work and informed me that theres no issue. I only saw bungs for O2's...and from what I know the EGT's are only touching the Exhaust manifold (I Beleive?)

    Also, more parts!

    Fuel Pump. I was suprised about the size, the pump is much smaller than I expected.




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    Looks good, did you try to get the maf from the guy I told you about? I refit mine the other day and trimmed the end of the silicone hose to get it to fit properly. you will enjoy the franks, with fueling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by durfA4 View Post
    Looks good, did you try to get the maf from the guy I told you about? I refit mine the other day and trimmed the end of the silicone hose to get it to fit properly. you will enjoy the franks, with fueling.
    Hey, He doesn't have any for the bosch sensor...aside from an 83mm RS4 one. I'm sticking with the 034 & hopefully that will be good.
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    why not just do an Mbox tune? you are six speed right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by durfA4 View Post
    why not just do an Mbox tune? you are six speed right.
    Not sure what you mean. I have a k box and I'm going to be getting the 034 maf housing unless you have any other suggestions. After I get the fueling installed im going to get custom tuned by jfonz with the anti lag. And yes it is a six speed.

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    He means that most tuners have a very good definition file for M-box (S4 Hitachi MAF, 6spd) your K box can and most likely will be flashed with an M box file
    I don't think I care anymore

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mantis View Post
    He means that most tuners have a very good definition file for M-box (S4 Hitachi MAF, 6spd) your K box can and most likely will be flashed with an M box file
    I see, had no idea that the brand of sensor actually mattered when it came to tuning...good to know, anything special about converting to the hitachi sensor aside from just buying the sensor?

    EDIT!: Question for you mantis. I bought the DW 300LPH pump...and I'm looking on 034's site and its stating that the Bosch 044 pump won't fit because it's too tall for the tank. Here is the link: http://www.034motorsport.com/fuel-in...s-p-19543.html

    From what I can tell, the DW and 044 are the same length...have any input? I popped an email off to VAST to see if they have any idea.

    Edit again: Quick response from VAST. I was told that the 044 BASKET won't work with the tank, but the universal cylinder thingy will...so thats a releif!
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    2nd, most aftermarket pumps are slimmer, they just require some O-rings in order to help them seat in the OEM baskets.
    I don't think I care anymore

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mantis View Post
    2nd, most aftermarket pumps are slimmer, they just require some O-rings in order to help them seat in the OEM baskets.
    I see...I didn't get those, although the product I bought from VAST has it advertised that they include the hardware, which I did not get. I got a tube of superlube...I popped another email to them and hope I get a response regarding the orings.
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    Anyone wanna show me how to use lemmiwinks?
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    What are you trying to lemmi. Although it is a useful tool for fine tuning, I would not suggest trying to make larger software changes, it operates in too broad of strokes

    example: add 3 degree timing, adds 3 degrees throughout the entire RPM range, not good, you would prefer less timing at low RPM than up top
    I don't think I care anymore

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mantis View Post
    What are you trying to lemmi. Although it is a useful tool for fine tuning, I would not suggest trying to make larger software changes, it operates in too broad of strokes

    example: add 3 degree timing, adds 3 degrees throughout the entire RPM range, not good, you would prefer less timing at low RPM than up top
    Actually not trying to lemmi anymore, I shall direct my questions to you if i do though.



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    Quote Originally Posted by khalimadeath View Post
    dyno?
    No dyno since I'm limping at the moment and have to diagnose that. Also just running downpipes with no exhaust, loud as hell. Getting custom all the way back hopefully this week, then going to install the fueling if I get a 85mm maf housing in time from someone on the forums as well as a base tune from Jfonz(I hope all of this will be done this week) . Also the JHM FMIC came in, but decided I'm going to sell it (its in the classifieds atm) and get ER side mounts. AFTER the sidemounts get installed I would like to get revised. Also, before summer I'd like to be running a meth kit and get tweaked for meth. Been looking at the aquamist systems. They friggen cost an arm and a leg, but was told the fail-safe is worth it.

    Any input on the Aquamist vs Vast anyone?
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    Got the fuel pump in...what a pain in the ass that was, misplaced the rubber seal at the lid and when trying to fill up gas poured out of the tank and all over the ground. Fixed that at the gas station, now still waiting for the Hitachi sensor + MAF housing to come in. Meanwhile, Gwerks is working on my tune.


    Anyones this rusted?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aysix View Post

    Anyones this rusted?

    Gotta love the northeast road salt... I don't miss that part of living there...
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    F4BTs are rated for around 620-640bhp. ER SMICs should be good for somewhere in the neighborhood of 700-720bhp. (plenty of meat left on the bone) Do you really think meth is necessary? In the grand scheme of things its only one more thing to go wrong and hinder reliability.

    If you went the AWE route instead (which are rated somewhere around 500-510bhp) and were having some heat soak issues then I would say meth might be something to look into.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EErie B6 View Post
    F4BTs are rated for around 620-640bhp. ER SMICs should be good for somewhere in the neighborhood of 700-720bhp. (plenty of meat left on the bone) Do you really think meth is necessary? In the grand scheme of things its only one more thing to go wrong and hinder reliability.

    If you went the AWE route instead (which are rated somewhere around 500-510bhp) and were having some heat soak issues then I would say meth might be something to look into.

    ...just my .02
    Actually going to be running stock IC's for a while. ER's are to come, as soon as I sell my FMIC and scrape up more money. I'm not doing meth for just heat soak issues, but to pull additional timing. Sure, it may be more to fail...but it's going to be a weekend warrior, not my daily driver.
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    Ok, I follow ya.

    I thought maybe you were doing it just as a safety precaution and to avoid heatsoak.

    are you doing phenolic mani. spacers too? Every little bit helps

    ...insulating the mani from the heads theoretically should also help keep the heat off the IAT sensor too. Just a thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aysix View Post
    How bad is heatsoak?
    For tuning purposes, its not a good thing. It's going to make it real hard to collect consistent data to develop a good baseline for tuning.

    IATs have a huge effect on timing. Timing has a huge effect on power.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EErie B6 View Post
    F4BTs are rated for around 620-640bhp.
    Just curious, where did you get that rating? At ~22% DTL, that's 500whp, and tweaked out FT setups on meth, E85 or race gas are seeing maybe slightly north of 450whp, with most setups around 400whp or a little less. 620-640bhp might be a little optimistic.

    Quote Originally Posted by aysix View Post
    Edit: How bad is heatsoak?
    Heatsoak in general is a bad thing, though phenolic spacers are going to be the savior for that (they're more of a "while you're in there" type of thing, or as EErieB6 said "every little bit counts"). If you're worried about heatsoak, and you're on a budget, skip phenolic spacers and put that money towards your upgraded intercoolers. IC's are where it counts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jibberjive View Post
    Just curious, where did you get that rating? At ~22% DTL, that's 500whp, and tweaked out FT setups on meth, E85 or race gas are seeing maybe slightly north of 450whp, with most setups around 400whp or a little less. 620-640bhp might be a little optimistic.
    Info came directly from the compressor maps on the FT website. Each compressor is rated for 31-32lb/min. That is turbo alone though... it does not account for the whole Bi-Turbo 1 into 2 into 1 intake air passageway turbulence/drag issues... or differences between setups.
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    Does the C5 have WB o2 sensors? If so...

    I know this works for the B6 A4, but not sure about the C5. You can try unplugging your MAF. (you will get a cel for it but im sure you have a few of those at this point)

    With my MAF unplugged on my B6, it idled, ran and drove fine with 630cc injectors on a 380cc tune.

    Definitely a temporary bandaid, but it should at least make the car driveable till you get the tune.

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    Yep, well i installed the maf/hoses and such with the intake.
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    Got the tune in, and man it pulls hard, although I have about a 4 second lag from pressing the gas pedal, scared the shit out of my girlfriend in the passenger seat aswell and have a bunch of short to ground codes & figure obiviously something isn't right with my N75 Valve? I'll see. Here are the codes if anyone cares enough to check.

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    Try using a mbc to prevent the overboost.

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    Awesome!
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    Yup, no longer running like poopy. The MAF is crap...another setback and now i'm just playing the waiting game until the intercoolers/meth/coilovers come in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aysix View Post
    Yup, no longer overboosting/running like poopy. The MAF is crap...another setback and now i'm just playing the waiting game until the intercoolers/meth/coilovers come in.
    How did you solve your overboosting issue? I'm currently dealing with this issue on my c5 2.7, stock except for an APR chip.

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    It was the N75.



    Anyways...anyone here run an oil catch can? I'd like to get one! Who makes em?
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    Quote Originally Posted by aysix View Post
    It was the N75.



    Anyways...anyone here run an oil catch can? I'd like to get one! Who makes em?
    I'm running an ebay one. Not sure how effective it really is, but there is definitely oil in it lol.

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    Originally Posted by 8520
    You're in high school, and chipping a 2.7t is like poking the bear with a tazer.

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    Bump, still got almost all these codes. Can this be fuse related?

    Also, I got a bunch of crap from the retailer about 3 days after purchasing the ER's and such and decided to just stick on my FMIC for the meanwhile. And still interested in the catch can Vinny.
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    Anyone have the JHM Trio and DTS? That package aswell as the DTS appeals to me.

    http://jhmotorsports.com/shop/catalo...017589998b8872

    Also looking at the apikol rear diff mount.
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    Update:


    -Aquamist HFS 6 will need to be installed.
    -KW V1's on the way.(edit: They didnt have em in stock so i just bought ST's instaead)
    -034 Tranny mounts installed
    -Upgraded swaybars
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    -New MAF
    -Samco Hose kit & TiAl bipipe hoses

    Looking for an apikol rear diff mount, nobody has one in stock for the C5!
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    This has taken a UTURN, I'm now swapping the turbos with RS6's and the FT's are for sale =]
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    Quote Originally Posted by aysix View Post
    Update:


    -Aquamist HFS 6 will need to be installed.
    -KW V1's on the way.(edit: They didnt have em in stock so i just bought ST's instaead)
    -034 Tranny mounts installed
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    Looking for an apikol rear diff mount, nobody has one in stock for the C5!
    Quote Originally Posted by aysix View Post
    This has taken a UTURN, I'm now swapping the turbos with RS6's and the FT's are for sale =]
    Nice!

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    Originally Posted by 8520
    You're in high school, and chipping a 2.7t is like poking the bear with a tazer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aysix View Post
    This has taken a UTURN, I'm now swapping the turbos with RS6's and the FT's are for sale =]
    Sweet, im going to use your thread to learn me for my stage 3! What made you choose to swap the RS6's over the FT?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camelian View Post
    Sweet, im going to use your thread to learn me for my stage 3! What made you choose to swap the RS6's over the FT?
    Rods and 500whp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aysix View Post
    Rods and 500whp.
    Que?

    meaning you did not want to install rods?
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