Wheel options in the $2000 range (not each but TOTAL)

[Mops]

Jeremy, your Q looks so nice!

[JOS4AUDI]

Jeremy, your Q looks so nice!

Thanks Mop very much appreciated!! Check out my thread if you get a chance on the Q5 section. I have pics, and videos of the exhaust and intake.

[Mops]

Cool, will check it out for sure. I finally put one together after 1.5 years...link in sig. About to switch to forgestar cf10 20x10. We still need to get together. Will get with you when it warms up a bit.

[JOS4AUDI]

Cool, will check it out for sure. I finally put one together after 1.5 years...link in sig. About to switch to forgestar cf10 20x10. We still need to get together. Will get with you when it warms up a bit.

Oh those are going to be so nice. I can't wait to see those. Also yes once it warms up for sure.

[MonzaA5]

most cast wheels (rotiform, VMR, Miro, the list goes on) are all made in singapore, and show me a couple threads where people were not statisified with the performance of the VMR wheels or had one crack on them?

I must say, you are one of this board's most intriguing posters. From the man who once stated that putting extra weight over the front axle reduces understeer comes a new theory that most cast wheel are apparently made in Singapore...FYI, both VMR and Miro are made in Taiwan, albeit at different factories using different manufacturing methods (VMR is gravity cast, while Miro is low pressure cast). Rotifrom wheels are made in China.

As for VMR wheels cracking, there you go:

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...onths-amp-****

(Next time, you may want to try one of them newfangled things they call "search engines")

[mr shickadance]

one thread? from 2 years ago, from someone who bought second-hand wheels?....thats what you came up with?

[MonzaA5]

one thread? from 2 years ago, from someone who bought second-hand wheels?....thats what you came up with?

You really are quite amusing. That was just one example, of course. You will find dozens more when you figure out how to use google. Actually, let me help you with that (since you obviously need all the help you can get):

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=VMR+cracked

[mr shickadance]

1) i asked you where you came to your reasoning

2) when you google it it comes up with two threads, one of which you linked me to, which was a second hand wheel and proved ultimately to not be VMR's fault, the second page being from a BMW thread that only asked how they held up vs other wheels....not actually about anything about them being weak

3) you can do this with every wheel company, you can google HRE cracked....what do you think ur gonna get? a shit ton of pages about cracked mono block HRE's


fact is you gave me 1 really shitty example of a cracked VMR, those wheels go through 3 different certifications....they are good wheels at a good price.....are they light? no, are they forged hell no, but don't try and tell members they are not good wheels, i can casually remind you (without being a tool) to search yourself, a lot praise about these wheels can be found and traditionally they have been a great company to the audi/bmw community, so dont be so quick to discredit them.

[MonzaA5]

i can casually remind you (without being a tool) to search yourself, a lot praise about these wheels can be found and traditionally they have been a great company to the audi/bmw community, so dont be so quick to discredit them.

Unlike you, I never argue about things that I know nothing about. I was thinking of buying a set of VMRs as my winter wheels, so I did my research. Read enough posts about cracking and paint chipping to be dissuaded.

VMR makes gravity cast wheels. That is the oldest, simplest and cheapest casting method that produces the least durable wheel. Pretty much all OEM wheels nowadays are either low pressure cast or flow formed for extra strength.

[tboooe]

VMR makes gravity cast wheels. That is the oldest, simplest and cheapest casting method that produces the least durable wheel. Pretty much all OEM wheels nowadays are either low pressure cast or flow formed for extra strength.

Monza, can you recommend companies that use the casting technique you mention above? In a previous post you mentioned Rial and Enkei. Any others? Does increasing my budget to $3K help?

[mr shickadance]

Unlike you, I never argue about things that I know nothing about. I was thinking of buying a set of VMRs as my winter wheels, so I did my research. Read enough posts about cracking and paint chipping to be dissuaded.

VMR makes gravity cast wheels. That is the oldest, simplest and cheapest casting method that produces the least durable wheel. Pretty much all OEM wheels nowadays are either low pressure cast or flow formed for extra strength.

all im saying is that don't go discrediting a company that frankly has been really good to the community in terms of support. I can't recall a single thread from the past two years that had bad things to say about VMR's

[MonzaA5]

Monza, can you recommend companies that use the casting technique you mention above? In a previous post you mentioned Rial and Enkei. Any others? Does increasing my budget to $3K help?

BBS (German), OZ Racing (Italian) and Advan (Japanese - made by Yokohoma) are high quality cast wheels made with low pressure casting or flow forming. These are all reputable, established manufacturers that have been around for a long time and have motorsports background (BBS and OZ make wheels for Formula 1 cars). OZ wheels will typically cost you $2000-$2500 for a set of 20s. BBS would be closer to $3000 (BBS also makes forged wheels, but those are much more expensive). Not too sure about Advan.

Rial and Enkei I've mentioned already. They are big players in the automotive industry and supply OEM wheels to many German and Japanese carmakers. Same with Ronal (Audi's supplier). There are a few smaller companies that make flow formed or low pressure cast wheels, such as Forgestar, Hartmann and TSW (Nurburgring and Interlagos models only). They don't have the same established reputation as the bigger names but they are cheaper. Hartmann and TSW will cost you less than $1500 a set. Forgestar should be around $2000.

Hope this helps.

[mxrz]

I remember Hartmann used to have a couple of forged monoblocks for about $600~700 a piece, one of them was the old DTM Style wheel, the other was the ever so popular 2nd gen RS4 clone... Don't see them on their website anyway, it's too bad.

[ModBargains II]

BBS (German), OZ Racing (Italian) and Advan (Japanese - made by Yokohoma) are high quality cast wheels made with low pressure casting or flow forming. These are all reputable, established manufacturers that have been around for a long time and have motorsports background (BBS and OZ make wheels for Formula 1 cars). OZ wheels will typically cost you $2000-$2500 for a set of 20s. BBS would be closer to $3000 (BBS also makes forged wheels, but those are much more expensive). Not too sure about Advan.

Rial and Enkei I've mentioned already. They are big players in the automotive industry and supply OEM wheels to many German and Japanese carmakers. Same with Ronal (Audi's supplier). There are a few smaller companies that make flow formed or low pressure cast wheels, such as Forgestar, Hartmann and TSW (Nurburgring and Interlagos models only). They don't have the same established reputation as the bigger names but they are cheaper. Hartmann and TSW will cost you less than $1500 a set. Forgestar should be around $2000.

Hope this helps.

Good info here.

[Skyler@Achtuning]

OZ was bought by a Chinese company a while back, some of their more expensive wheels are still be made in Italy but the rest are made in China.

[mxrz]

The Ultraleggera monoblocks, and the Superleggera III forged multi-piece wheels are still made in Italy, those are the only ones I would consider anyway.

[John@TAG]

Lets get some people going and this can be easily under 2k

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...AG-Motorsports

[staticuxo]

Lets get some people going and this can be easily under 2k

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...AG-Motorsports

this. i'm in on this group buy, waiting for some others to help drop the price, too

[VMRWheels]

While we’re on the subject, I just wanted to come in here and chime in a bit. As it has been mentioned, any wheel has the potential to bend or crack when it comes to road hazards. I’ve seen plenty of bent and cracked forged wheels, which as we all know are much more expensive per wheel. The fact of the matter is that all of our wheels meet and exceed JWL/VIA testing, and are produced in an ISO approved facility. These are the same certifications that OEM wheels undergo. Moreover, we do have models now that are low pressure cast.

We’ve been closely working with the Audi and BMW communities for years now, and our goal is to provide the best possible products and service for the price. If any of our past, current, or future customers ever have questions, comments, or concerns we’re only a phone call, PM, or email away.

[John@TAG]

this. i'm in on this group buy, waiting for some others to help drop the price, too

Yep! lets get the numbers up and the price down :)

[mxrz]

our wheels meet and exceed JWL and VIA testing

Sounds like play on words... Were the wheels tested by VIA or are you saying they "meet" VIA testing? You either send your wheels to VIA in Japan for testing, or you don't... If you don't, you can't make any "VIA" claims.
JWL and VIA? What is the "and" for? JWL and VIA are the same thing, VIA only means JWL was performed "by" VIA in Japan as I've mentioned above, and JWL alone is meaningless because it is a self-certified test done in-house, with no third party oversight.

Now if you had model specific TUV approval, I'd have nothing to complain about, there is no way to cheat that.

[VMRWheels]

Sounds like play on words... Were the wheels tested by VIA or are you saying they "meet" VIA testing? You either send your wheels to VIA in Japan for testing, or you don't... If you don't, you can't make any "VIA" claims.
JWL and VIA? What is the "and" for? JWL and VIA are the same thing, VIA only means JWL was performed "by" VIA in Japan as I've mentioned above, and JWL alone is meaningless because it is a self-certified test done in-house, with no third party oversight.

Now if you had model specific TUV approval, I'd have nothing to complain about, there is no way to cheat that.

My apologies, I meant JWL/VIA certification, rather than 'and'. We have sent our wheels to Japan for testing, as well as being tested in the manufacturing facility.

My point was that regardless, the wheels meet and exceed the standards imposed by VIA, both in house and in Japan.

[Beast]

get tsw valencia they cost like 1300 w/o tires