help tubular or log?!?!?

[b518]

plans for my future build are as follows: built aeb head, ct 5857, built bottom end (1.8), 3" exhaust, w/m, eurodyne, ie cams. my question is should i go with a tubular manifold or a log? im indecisive. would like everyones advice from those that are running either. keep in mind i dont want a laggy setup, quicker spool the better. goal: 500awhp would like to be able to go higher if need be. thnks!

[pape]

here read this.

http://www.full-race.com/articles/1....st_writeup.pdf

you will have your answer by the time you finished reading it.

[b518]

Thanks will do

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[bondar1989]

damn you going for 500whp. thats cray! Nice plans though. why not get a b5 s4 if you want that much power. This stuff you want is going to be $$$ but im glad to help you out with the work. I know alot about our cars and local too. where on long island are u. I am near lake ronkonkoma.

[M-Hood]

damn you going for 500whp. thats cray! Nice plans though. why not get a b5 s4 if you want that much power. This stuff you want is going to be $$$ but im glad to help you out with the work. I know alot about our cars and local too. where on long island are u. I am near lake ronkonkoma.

Cost even more money to reach 500whp on a S4 and the S4 is way harder to work on.

As for the manifold. Tube would be the best way to go if your trying to make the most power in the higher rpms, it will just have better flow into the collector and into the turbo. You can go with a cast manifold if trying to make 500whp, it will just be slightly harder to make that power vs using a equal length tube manifold.

[b518]

damn you going for 500whp. thats cray! Nice plans though. why not get a b5 s4 if you want that much power. This stuff you want is going to be $$$ but im glad to help you out with the work. I know alot about our cars and local too. where on long island are u. I am near lake ronkonkoma.

Uniondale/westbury

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[b518]

Cost even more money to reach 500whp on a S4 and the S4 is way harder to work on.

As for the manifold. Tube would be the best way to go if your trying to make the most power in the higher rpms, it will just have better flow into the collector and into the turbo. You can go with a cast manifold if trying to make 500whp, it will just be slightly harder to make that power vs using a equal length tube manifold.

S4 too much, headache too. And thanks tubular it is

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[AudiHere04]

didn't i tell you..lol. You know what you need next

[b518]

didn't i tell you..lol. You know what you need next

Lol thanks yea that turbo and clutch

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[Dan[FN]6262]

not going to make 500awhp with a 5857

[b518]

not going to make 500awhp with a 5857

Ugh do I have to go 6262 Dan? Lol

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[Dan[FN]6262]

6062 should do it, and spool up a touch faster than a 6262

[b518]

Ok so probably 4300 ish?

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[Sales@RAI]

What are you trying to make 500 on? Race gas? What kind of boost?

We can make you the full kit for you here..

[M-Hood]

not going to make 500awhp with a 5857

Just depends on how hard it is pushed. I know someone with one that is going to be aiming for 500whp, the person with the CT5562 is going to be trying for 500whp too and he is already running a IIc and custom tuning.

Going for the 6062 or 6262 would be something if trying for 600-700+whp.

[M-Hood]

Ok so probably 4300 ish?

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On a 1.8t your looking at hitting 25psi higher then 4300 rpms. The CT4-5562 on a 1.8t displacement is hitting 25-26psi at around 4300-4500 rpms on 93 octane.

[Dan[FN]6262]

Just depends on how hard it is pushed. I know someone with one that is going to be aiming for 500whp, the person with the CT5562 is going to be trying for 500whp too and he is already running a IIc and custom tuning.

Going for the 6062 or 6262 would be something if trying for 600-700+whp.

yeah, race gas and 35+psi and big everything lol

[AudiHere04]

remember he wants to stay 1.8. I told him 2.0 would be way better.

i agree with Mike. If he is 2.0 + 5857 + tubular + meth
then he would be in a comfortable rpm range at 28psi.

[b518]

Pump if possible, 2.0 might be in the works later on if needed Im just impatient I want my car on the rd ASAP lol

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[b518]

On a 1.8t your looking at hitting 25psi higher then 4300 rpms. The CT4-5562 on a 1.8t displacement is hitting 25-26psi at around 4300-4500 rpms on 93 octane.

What's the 5562 rated for?

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[Sales@RAI]

What's the 5562 rated for?

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Honestly man, if you want 500whp spool is the least of your worries

[b518]

Honestly man, if you want 500whp spool is the least of your worries

I was thinking that. Power would definitely make up for it

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[M-Hood]

I was thinking that. Power would definitely make up for it

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Only if you are always running the car at redline. A car that is making the same peak power but with more power under the curve is going to be quicker every time the car is shifted into the next gear. Peak power doesn't mean anything if it takes you twice as long to get that peak power. The right size turbo is going to give you the best of both.

What's the 5562 rated for?

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Rated at 590hp or 59 lbs/min.

[B6A4Dave]

...E85.....do it...and why does everyone choose PTE Turbo's?

Here's my 1.6L SOHC Civic with a Garrett GT3076R @ 20 PsiG on E85, Built motor. (bored over 0.020")
Elevation 6800 ft, Baro - 11.3psi

[Dan[FN]6262]

uhhhh what are you talking about? no one has said anything about PTE turbos

[Sales@RAI]

What are you trying to make 500 on? Race gas? What kind of boost? Do you care about 1/4 mile?

Answering these questions will help us give you an answer

[b518]

Answering these questions will help us give you an answer

My bad I'm driving back from pa. Just picked up a built block. Pump but want to run meth, and yea 11s in the 1/4 mike would be lovely

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[Sales@RAI]

My bad I'm driving back from pa. Just picked up a built block. Pump but want to run meth, and yea 11s in the 1/4 mike would be lovely

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I'd do something real big to be safe. it's going to be hard to pick both of those on a street car. They were my exact goals but I fell a tiny bit short in both.

[b518]

Think ill go 6062. I just remembered I need a turbo that can go well with them ie cams (v1s)

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[M-Hood]

...E85.....do it...and why does everyone choose PTE Turbo's?

Here's my 1.6L SOHC Civic with a Garrett GT3076R @ 20 PsiG on E85, Built motor. (bored over 0.020")
Elevation 6800 ft, Baro - 11.3psi

We have been talking about CT's which is Comp Turbo, not sure why you thought anyone was talking about PTE.

Like this.

[M-Hood]

I'd do something real big to be safe. it's going to be hard to pick both of those on a street car. They were my exact goals but I fell a tiny bit short in both.

Clint that is the type of thinking that kept you from running 11's and hitting 500whp. Bigger isn't better unless your looking to get all the power out of it. It doesn't take a huge turbo to run 11's or to hit 500whp. My turbo is smaller then what you ran and yet I have been able to push 650whp.

[Shayneduboulay]

Wow I just read this thread and thought 500whp would be nice but it is going to break shit on your car all the time. Plus how many guys are actually making 500whp with there B6 1.8t?? I know that my turbo isnt a CT but I cant see your spool coming on untill 4500rpm

I wanna see the outcome to this build. GL!

[b518]

Thanks ^ but I mean that's the goal but I'm not going to drive around town 500whp lol w.e 300whp is that'll be fine

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[Siggiepop]

GL with the build keep us posted

500awhp but you're fine with 300awhp that is a BIG difference lol
Just aim for the middle 400awhp give or take and call it a day

[AudiHere04]

i understand where Clint is coming from

[Sales@RAI]

Clint that is the type of thinking that kept you from running 11's and hitting 500whp. Bigger isn't better unless your looking to get all the power out of it. It doesn't take a huge turbo to run 11's or to hit 500whp. My turbo is smaller then what you ran and yet I have been able to push 650whp.

Well, yes and no. I agree I think I could do 11s on a 3071R even on pump gas. I wanted 500awhp on pump+meth that is NOT easy. My tune held me back. Also, not sure if the LWFW finally helped since I never revved it up that high I was having wideband problems. I guess we'll never know

[b518]

GL with the build keep us posted

500awhp but you're fine with 300awhp that is a BIG difference lol
Just aim for the middle 400awhp give or take and call it a day

500whp is to Chase down the m5s lol I don't necessarily need it all for grocery shopping

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[b518]

i understand where Clint is coming from

This. Clint what did you do in the quarter mile?

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[M-Hood]

This. Clint what did you do in the quarter mile?

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IIRC he was down around 12.0-12.1 or basically about .5 seconds faster then I ran in Charlies Avant with a GTRS elim kit.

[b518]

IIRC he was down around 12.0-12.1 or basically about .5 seconds faster then I ran in Charlies Avant with a GTRS elim kit.

Damn only .5 seconds faster? Which turbo?

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