i really need help putting my bbs ch 18" on (nube)

[igor_1992]

im new to b5 s4 and i got BBS CH 18" 5x112 bolt pattern.
but they seem not to fit.
can someone give me some advice on what i need. spacers and so on....
please help!!!

[hellrot98m3]

what doesnt seem to fit? the bolt pattern doesnt line up or what? what offset are the wheels?

[igor_1992]

the bolt patter is correct the fron wheel hits the caliper and the rear fits but hits a arm on the top part of the suspension.

[igor_1992]

50mm offset i belive

[GWerks]

You need spacers, I believe witwer444 had the same problem you do. Hopefully he will chime in, he might even still has the spacers he used to run with his old BBS CH's.

[Yankeefan7592]

Sell them to mee ... You probably need spacers though

[igor_1992]

thanks for your helps i dont wanna sell them theyll look really clean on my negaro blue! i just need to know whiat mm spacers

[igor_1992]

i picked these up for 600 http://sacramento.craigslist.org/pts/2811583509.html.

[sherbet]

lol WUT? You got a great deal! If you cant get em to fit, ill take em off your hands!

[coolgraymemo]

I was going to buy those for my dad's B6 but the seller told me he was "firm" on the price.

Offset is around et43-45. You'll need at least 10mm spacers.

[DolphinV8]

Those are CO's - http://bbs-usa.com/road-wheels-detail.cfm?CLID=32&WF=4
If you want CH's, get the 18x8.5 ET35 version. Those will clear your stock front brakes & many BBK's.

[Austonwerner4]

I'll give you $601

[getslideways]

thanks for your helps i dont wanna sell them theyll look really clean on my negaro blue! i just need to know whiat mm spacers

space the wheels out using hardware store washers, keep adding washers until it safely clears the brakes, measure your washer stack, buy a pair of spacers in the same thickness (don't use the washers as spacers! this is just for measuring what you'll need)

if your stock bolts arent long enough to add washers for testing, just get 3 M14 bolts, cut the heads off, and now you have wheel holding studs (i say 3 studs so that you can sit the wheel flat, with only 2 the wheels could "rock" while test fitting and give you an inaccurate estimate)

[igor_1992]

so nobody is going to tell me what spacers i need

[witwer4444]

You are such a nube you cant even spell NOOB right!

Also, its NOGARO blue, not Negaro

Anyway, yes I ran them. You will need a 10mm or more all the way around for them to clear. Heres a pic:



EDIT: Just so I dont log on in a week and see the car totaled, PLEASE dont forget to purchase EXTENDED BALL SEAT LUGS. Order the 40mm Lugs from ECS (BALL SEAT SINCE WHEELS ARE OEM)...

Stock Lug size is 28mm, you put 10mm spacers on, that = 38mm. No one makes a 38mm Lug, so the 40mm does just fine. (Also, order 20 of them)

Hope this helps.

[witwer4444]

Those are CO's - http://bbs-usa.com/road-wheels-detail.cfm?CLID=32&WF=4
If you want CH's, get the 18x8.5 ET35 version. Those will clear your stock front brakes & many BBK's.

Carson, its actually REALLY interesting you brought this up. Theres always been a speculation on what Audi and BBS actually offered these wheels as. Although they do look like CO's, they are stamped CH028 by BBS indicating they are a CH version. Either way, its no big deal, but whenever I tell people about them its always hard to put out a clear answer.

[DolphinV8]

I see, Dave. For some reason, I thought most 8E guys call those OE CO's.

[ThirdStrike]

nube ? lol ahahaha

[witwer4444]

I see, Dave. For some reason, I thought most 8E guys call those OE CO's.

Ahh, I gotchya. Wouldn't surprise me. Those 8E guys never know what they are talking about

[getslideways]

so nobody is going to tell me what spacers i need

see the post i made DIRECTLY above your last post...

[igor_1992]

Thanks for your help dude. So 100 mm spacers and 40 mm lug nuts. I'll get to ordering right now

[HaVoKTheJoker]

If you only get spaces in the front its going to look stupid because the front wheels will stick out more than your rear..i would advise you getting 10mm from and 15mm rear.

[igor_1992]

That makes more sense because u need more space in the back than in front any ways. But will 40 mm lug nuts still work?

[wdbdy2000s4]

yes

[HaVoKTheJoker]

If you run a 10mm front and 15mm rear spacers the 40mm lug bolt will be too long for the front..you will need to trim them down. but they work fine for the rears

[Sales@EPL]

I'd just go with a good stud kit over dealing with the longer lug bolts.

[igor_1992]

If you run a 10mm front and 15mm rear spacers the 40mm lug bolt will be too long for the front..you will need to trim them down. but they work fine for the rears

Looks like I'm in luck they have the bolts I need no need for trimming.
http://www.ecstuning.com/Audi-B5_S4-...lts/ES2501033/

[witwer4444]

Ignore others, just go by everything stated in my previous post. You NEED 40mm lugs to fit the 10mm spacers in the front, and 45mm lugs if you do 15mm in the rear. Do NOT use stock lugs with 10mm spacers, that would be your first mistake. Like I said, I would just do 10mm all the way around so you dont have mismatching lugs (40mm and 45mm) that could get mixed up later down the road. Plus, 10mm all the way around is the perfect stance:

[witwer4444]

Looks like I'm in luck they have the bolts I need no need for trimming.
http://www.ecstuning.com/Audi-B5_S4-...lts/ES2501033/

this is NOT the one you want! how hard can this be!

If you run a 10mm front and 15mm rear spacers the 40mm lug bolt will be too long for the front..you will need to trim them down. but they work fine for the rears

worst advice given in this entire thread.

[igor_1992]

Ignore others, just go by everything stated in my previous post. You NEED 40mm lugs to fit the 10mm spacers in the front, and 45mm lugs if you do 15mm in the rear. Do NOT use stock lugs with 10mm spacers, that would be your first mistake. Like I said, I would just do 10mm all the way around so you dont have mismatching lugs (40mm and 45mm) that could get mixed up later down the road. Plus, 10mm all the way around is the perfect stance:

Okay so I'm gonna go with 15mm in the back and 10 in the front. I won't mismatch anything.
Also if you wanna sell me your stuff if your not using it I can paypal you. That way I'll got 10 all around.

[witwer4444]

No, I sold my spacers a while back. Those lugs you pulled up on ECS are wrong, they are conical seat. Like I stated 18 times above, you need BALL SEAT Lugs. They are two different styles and if you were to install conical lugs on OEM wheels you wouldnt get very far from the tire shop if that makes sense....

Like I said, dont do 15 in the rear. Just do 10 all around. You'll thank me later. Good luck.

[igor_1992]

No, I sold my spacers a while back. Those lugs you pulled up on ECS are wrong, they are conical seat. Like I stated 18 times above, you need BALL SEAT Lugs. They are two different styles and if you were to install conical lugs on OEM wheels you wouldnt get very far from the tire shop if that makes sense....

Like I said, dont do 15 in the rear. Just do 10 all around. You'll thank me later. Good luck.

Okay I'll do what you said. Thanks for the help. Really appreciate it.

[igor_1992]

No, I sold my spacers a while back. Those lugs you pulled up on ECS are wrong, they are conical seat. Like I stated 18 times above, you need BALL SEAT Lugs. They are two different styles and if you were to install conical lugs on OEM wheels you wouldnt get very far from the tire shop if that makes sense....

Like I said, dont do 15 in the rear. Just do 10 all around. You'll thank me later. Good luck.

Okay I'll do what you said. Thanks for the help. Really appreciate it.

[witwer4444]

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[igor_1992]

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One more question whers the best place to get all that stuff besides ecs?

[HaVoKTheJoker]

this is NOT the one you want! how hard can this be!



worst advice given in this entire thread.

Does my car/stance look like i dont know what im talking about? I'm telling him because i've been through it i know what im talking about. He could also just go with a stud kit..also a good idea if he wants to go that route.

If you do 10mm spacers the fronts will stick out more than the rear and itll look stupid. Just a thought...listen to this genius above.

[witwer4444]

One more question whers the best place to get all that stuff besides ecs?

ECS is your best bet...

Does my car/stance look like i dont know what im talking about? I'm telling him because i've been through it i know what im talking about. He could also just go with a stud kit..also a good idea if he wants to go that route.

If you do 10mm spacers the fronts will stick out more than the rear and itll look stupid. Just a thought...listen to this genius above.

Dude, you have to realize you are running WAY different wheels with a WAY different offset, width, tire size, etc. Your advice is so irrelevant to the OP that you shouldn't have even posted!

smh....

[HaVoKTheJoker]

He'll be at 33 and 28et ..ok so your right the 40mm will be fine but the front wheel will still stick out more than the rear..just do stud kit and call it a day.

[witwer4444]

He'll be at 33 and 28et ..ok so your right the 40mm will be fine but the front wheel will still stick out more than the rear..just do stud kit and call it a day.

haha no it wont! how many pictures or times do I have to say it! Im done here......

I do agree about the stud kit though however in the OP's case I dont think he needs it...

[bigdo26]

Thanks for your help dude. So 100 mm spacers and 40 mm lug nuts. I'll get to ordering right now

No one caught the 100mm spacer comment? Minor typo ;)