Got the car tuned today.... and whooooowie!

[jfunkey]

Talk about a major fail.for unitronic. The JHM car makes almost es 20/20 more who and wtq

The only power mods that can be picked up by a dyno are a JHM tune and a intake manifold all this threw a if I remember correctly a 2.2 inch exhaust. Not only that but we are talking about. Just peak numbers not to mention how I'm sure the JHM car dominated the unitronic car in the area under the curve.

Seems to me with all the data out there and solid results along with Tue fact that there have been several unitronic customers that have switched to JHM ale noticed a large difference seems this sone guy trying to

1 justify his poor spent money or free unitroncs tune
2 or when you figgure how much information is out there and the fact that The op said "after doing soyme research " .... Really there is no research saying anyone should get a unitronic tune. So what seems odd that the op is quite vested into seeing unitronic do well. I some how doubt this is trully a independent hindividual

Seems like quite a bit here sounds fishy to me

At this point I don't think anyone is dumb enough to think getting a unitronic tune is a good idea.

We all know the b6 and 7 have major differences in power from motor to motor due to the cylinder issu

It's already been shown where a untronic guy switched to a JHM tune a did a stock uni and then JHM tune DYNO RUN on the same car to see a 8whp and 11wtq gain with the JHM tune. So this debate has been over for years but its good to see the op just proved once again you shouldn't get the unitronic tune over the JHM tune

[Justincredible]

Soo... full bolt on JHM tune, intake manifold, intake manifold spacers, Trex turk catless downpipes, AWE exhaust, intake, light weight flywheel, clutch, lightweight crank pulley..... 299awhp 302awtq 4th gear pulls.

ME: Evo MS Intake, Custom Borla exhaust and unitronics stage 2... 284 and 282 4th gear and 292 and 290 3rd gear... which vs. my stock 3rd gear pulls which was 264 and 253. AND remember still on full OEM downpipes.


SOOO you guys can say all you want my car did exactly what I wanted... :) I'm happy!


UNITRONIC FTW! BTW he left from what I heard a quite unhappy person... car is nice sounded great and a very nice guy! But I'll keep my $5k I saved and use it for something else.

Not to be rude but I call complete Bull $hit. Frist off as someone that ran a dyno for almost 10years. A car never dynos more in 3rd gear then 4th. So that is BS right out of the gate.

Also as someone who says they know how to tune. I find it funny that you didn't know that a lightweight flywheel will actually cost someone TQ on a dyno due to a single mass having more mass and weight. This will help impact the Tq figgure when load is added on the peak figgure.

Also its been shown time and time again that a catback with a X is the single largest help in the exhaust system.

So you just admitted to us that the JHM tune is clearly the tune of choice. Jfunkey is right. This has been shown already where someone has gone from Unitronic to stock to JHM on the same car. The results were the JHM tune doing much better.

So you just showed us that again. That a JHM tune is a great choice. Because you just told us the JHM made more power then you and the JHM car had a car with a smaller exhaust then you with no cross over smaller rims then you (because your larger rims help TQ figgures on the dyno)

I think its funny you heard alot for someone that is suposed to be just some random guy who got his car dynoed. You sure seem to know quite a bit about other peoples cars and dyno results including when they are going to the dyno. So I call more BUll $hit. I don't think for a second your unbias.

Not only that but you should keep your 5000$ because with all the information our there you have gotten a hot air intake and kept your dp's stock. SO your clearly not spending your money or information in the right place anyway.

Ok so I agree I was hoping for mid to low 300's but the car fucking moves and I launch assist lol im going to the track in two weeks in jacksonville nc if he wants to see were the diffrwnce really if

Ryan, Don't worry about the dyno Ill tell you 7 reasons why.

1 the jhm tune is going to pull power if your motor gets hot. Sitting on the dyno is going to do just that.
2 you have LW rims and LW flywheel. That is going to cost power in the form of TQ heavy wheels help on the dyno. Ask 034 they posted about this several times. what wheel differences can do for power.
3 all your seeing is PEAK hp and PEAK Tq. There is a lot more to the dyno sheet then that.
4 Your car made much more hp then the other car that was there.
5 your cat back is too small and has no X. This is going to hurt you no matter what kind of Dp's or intake manifold you have.
6 people have already shown in actual test that the jHM tune makes more then the Unitronic tune
7 seems to me the OP is kinda carring on a little bit about your car and your results but you never saw him run your car. Dyno racing is safe for everyone. Real racing is where the proof is. Looks like you got him on both.. Fact of the matter is your almost 20whp up and thats a big difference.

[SpeedETC]

OP, I am glad that you like your tune, but 15 whp and 20 wtq is nothing to sneeze at. But, the conversation has been around peak numbers. What does the area under the curve look like?

[A4 TSCHUSS]

Not to be rude but I call complete Bull $hit. Frist off as someone that ran a dyno for almost 10years. A car never dynos more in 3rd gear then 4th. So that is BS right out of the gate.

Also as someone who says they know how to tune. I find it funny that you didn't know that a lightweight flywheel will actually cost someone TQ on a dyno due to a single mass having more mass and weight. This will help impact the Tq figgure when load is added on the peak figgure.

heavy wheels help on the dyno.

I have some questions, I assume you are making a general statement since you said "as someone who ran a dyno for almost 10 years" and couldn't be talking about only the S4 with that said? Are you saying all cars make less power in 3rd than 4th? Just curious because I have access to the same car on 2 different types of dyno that dynoed significantly more in 3rd than 4th.

Next, the light flywheel takes load off the engine from rotational inertia removed from the crank which in turn would allow for the engine to spin up faster and make more hp/tq along the power band (power under the curve) no? Isn't that the whole point of a lightweight flywheel? I will go with what you said that you lose some torque but hp is freed up which is more what I am worried about in this post comparing these two cars in this thread.

I also happen to go on JHMs facebook and saw this from them

Replacing the stock, heavy, dual-mass flywheel with our lightweight, single-mass flywheel removes load off of the engine by dramatically lightening the mass that the crank in the engine has to turn.

And from their website

Why a lightweight flywheel? Well when you reduce the weight of the rotating mass on the engine you free up horsepower. So that is the great benefit of a lightweight flywheel,

A car is quicker than the next because it makes more hp/tq under the curve and/or peak than the next so from what you said, I gather JHM was going backwards making cars have losses by doing lightweight flywheels? That is obviously not the case or they or anyone else would have never developed light performance flywheels, so comparing this hp figures that JHM car was certainly at an advantage there.

And last, "heavy wheels help on the dyno" is this again a general statement or something you are saying is S4 specific? Curious since it is widely known that smaller/lighter wheels make less drivetrain losses due to less rotational inertia which then makes a car faster from having more power to the ground. A shop also did a dyno test on stock SS Camaro with 3 wheel weights all the same diameter (20") and the car made more hp and torque for each wheel that was lighter, those being 68lbs (wheel/tire), then loss hp/tq at 72lbs then gained hp/tq back and more than the original 68lbs power when 60lb wheels were installed, this could also be compounded more by having smaller diameter wheels like the JHM car dynoed had from what I read.

And I also seem to have read discrediting of the JHM intake manifold the JHM car had to the benefit of overall hp on this dyno due to his exhaust while that manifold still made 10whp increases during testing according to JHM while using STOCK main cats and 2.125" piggie pipes and up to 15whp with downpipes.

If you are wondering about cars that don't have headers but have aftermarket downpipes we have seen as high as 15whp with those setups as well. So this manifold performs very well with any exhaust configuration

On the dyno - On 91 octane gas here in California with our 05 manual transmission car that is equipped with our headers, tune, other bolt onse we saw 16 whp gains (22 crank hp). We did 3 baseline runs on the dyno confirming a constant intake manifold temp of 110f to 115f. We then replaced the intake manifold with our unit and then warmed the manifold up to the same 110f to 115f. We saw a consistent gain pull after pull. With our car being equipped with headers we saw a 5 ft lb of torque at the wheels gain (7 crank torque). We also did testing with a 06 Automatic transmission car that was equipped with our headers and cats along with our tune and other bolt ons. This car gained as high as 17whp (23+ crank hp) and as high as a 6 ft lb of torque at the wheels gain (8 crank torque). After this testing with 2 JHM header cars and the cylinder heads being the only cork we continued testing and decided to do a car that had high rpm power limiting piggie pipes (due to the use of 2.125" piping and stock main cats). With this car on 91 octane we saw 10+whp (13 crank hp) gains and identical torque as stock

So this JHM car dynoed on same day as Unitronic car was better off than that having downpipes instead of restrictive cats so certainly not worse than 10whp gain there and possibly up to 15whp. Account for that with the intake spacers and things get a heck of a lot closer in terms of power no? JHM at 299whp and Unitronic's 284whp up to 294whp using only a humble 10whp increase JHM had on the stock cat small piggie pipe car even though this JHM car didn't have stock cats, but downpipes instead that they saw up to 15whp gains on putting this car at 299whp just like the JHM tune car. Now we are still talking about a car that also had light crank pulley, which from JHM's site

Reducing the rotating mass of parts in or attached to the engine free up horsepower. This mod is not a drastic HP increase but it is a great piece of the puzzle coupled with many of our other parts to help maximize your naturally aspirated S4.

, light flywheel and lighter/smaller wheels which all help in horsepower.

Call me crazy, but this Unitronic car if it had a JHM intake manifold could have possibly made the same power as the JHM car and with a light flywheel and crank pulley and lighter wheels still in the bag to be used could have made more than the JHM tune car.


In conclusion, I think this Unitronic tune is getting bashed on for no reason at all since if equally equipped with all the JHM bolt ons it would not be inferior one bit and perhaps superior with these two cars and their same day, same dyno comparison.

[M-Dub]

LOL you guys kill me.

1.) I did not want any down time... so sending my ECU out to JHM or waiting for them to send one to me wasn't going to happen.
2.) I NEVER SAID I WAS FASTER.... EVER! I said TEST. GOT DAMN you guys are soo arrogant!

I told him that I am sure he is FASTER, I have had the car 5 months, and saw some nice gains so who cares. I'm not about the MOST POWER EVAR! If I wanted nothing but full out HP I would have kept my almost 600whp Cobalt.

[BlackS4TT(Josh)]

LOL you guys kill me.

1.) I did not want any down time... so sending my ECU out to JHM or waiting for them to send one to me wasn't going to happen.
2.) I NEVER SAID I WAS FASTER.... EVER! I said TEST. GOT DAMN you guys are soo arrogant!

I told him that I am sure he is FASTER, I have had the car 5 months, and saw some nice gains so who cares. I'm not about the MOST POWER EVAR! If I wanted nothing but full out HP I would have kept my almost 600whp Cobalt.

Thanks for posting your info. I find it quite obnoxious how quickly everyone trashes any products other than JHM's.

I'd love to see your full dyno plot vs a JHM tune on the same dyno. Not interested in peak power, but area under the curve and power delivery. I drove a JHM tuned car and I honestly didn't care for the over-sensitive throttle. It did remove the lag down low, which was nice, but the throttle was so sensitive I couldn't go over a speed bump without bucking the car around and bouncing on/off throttle like a moron.

[speedfreek04]

LOL you guys kill me.

1.) I did not want any down time... so sending my ECU out to JHM or waiting for them to send one to me wasn't going to happen.
2.) I NEVER SAID I WAS FASTER.... EVER! I said TEST. GOT DAMN you guys are soo arrogant!

I told him that I am sure he is FASTER, I have had the car 5 months, and saw some nice gains so who cares. I'm not about the MOST POWER EVAR! If I wanted nothing but full out HP I would have kept my almost 600whp Cobalt.

In response to your first point there, I understand completely. I sent mine next day air (for almost $90), and didn't get it back for almost a month. I'll give JHM credit for a week of that that they probably couldn't control, as my ecu decided to nuke itself as they were doing a final test before shipping it out, leaving them to have to find me a used one to replace it that ended up being on the east coast. I cant give them credit for forgetting/ignoring my request to have it sent back overnight so I could finish the car before I left town for a month, instead shipping it regular ground no sig req'd, and having it sit out in the rain for a few days before I could get a friend to go pick it up. The short of it all is there are definitely risks insending it cross country that not everyone can work around with daily driven cars. I guess in a way, it is lucky mine was already down due to getting a new engine. Still scary to think though that it might not work when I get back home and finish it up on Tuesday. If you are happy with it man, thank who/whatever it all went smoothly, and forget the rest!

[rebelbowtie]

In response to your first point there, I understand completely. I sent mine next day air (for almost $90), and didn't get it back for almost a month. I'll give JHM credit for a week of that that they probably couldn't control, as my ecu decided to nuke itself as they were doing a final test before shipping it out, leaving them to have to find me a used one to replace it that ended up being on the east coast. I cant give them credit for forgetting/ignoring my request to have it sent back overnight so I could finish the car before I left town for a month, instead shipping it regular ground no sig req'd, and having it sit out in the rain for a few days before I could get a friend to go pick it up. The short of it all is there are definitely risks insending it cross country that not everyone can work around with daily driven cars. I guess in a way, it is lucky mine was already down due to getting a new engine. Still scary to think though that it might not work when I get back home and finish it up on Tuesday. If you are happy with it man, thank who/whatever it all went smoothly, and forget the rest!

This story alone is enough to almost sway me from JHM if I were tuning my car. I am sure your case is isolated and in no way typical of JHM. I have done mail order tunes before and the ECU was out a week tops, there is no excuse for it to take a month.

[speedfreek04]

This story alone is enough to almost sway me from JHM if I were tuning my car. I am sure your case is isolated and in no way typical of JHM. I have done mail order tunes before and the ECU was out a week tops, there is no excuse for it to take a month.

Ifi remember correctly, he told me it was the first ecu to bomb of the 300+ they had done. I get that, im fine with it. I never complained because a. They told me they would find another, and b. I have learned many times that shit happens when it comes to modding cars that is just plain out of your control. Sadly though, I felt unhappy with the whole $4k order overall as there were other small things that didn't go right that seemed to be their fault to me(improper packing of parts) that they refused to help me with. I dont know, maybe its just me, but if one of my customers called me with a problem over a $26 piece of plastic from an order of that size, I'd just send them another one in hopes of them returning the next time they have a few grand to spend. It really sucks because I really like their products from what ive seen(again I cant say how they work yet), and the tech guys have been good the few times ive been able to get a hold of them, so I really would have liked for it to havegone better. Unfortunately, ill likely think twice when it comes to bumping things up to the next level.

[M-Dub]

I'm having National Speed send me my stock w/ K&N drop in pulls vs. the new pulls tomorrow. I could honestly careless about peak numbers... I'm more interested in it's usable power increase over stock that you can tell is deffinately more opened up.

So as soon as they get that to me I will post it up. :)


Ryan knows I am not bashing his car... nor JHM I have some of their parts on my car too. It's all top notch, I was originally going to GIAC tuned but the local tuners here told me to go with Uni too so I did.

[M-Dub]

There is the video from the 4th gear pull.

[jfunkey]

M dub man for me it was your attidude about it all. Justin is right your wheels and flywheel are going to help out. Big time on the DYNO. Still its the atridude you had about ryans collective car and parts. To say you would keep the 5k in parts when in fact he only had a few parts that were DYNO performance parts was kinda dickish.

If your happy were happy with you. Still the fact remains this has been tested time and time again. This test showed the JHM partaking sms tune doing better then the unitronic.

Were all going to be happy of you did get giac or Apr or who ever. Seems to me your just working hard to try and male your results look great at another members expence when he did real well. Still all the better enjoy your car

[M-Dub]

Well I am sorry if I came off as DICKISH... but I was telling the truth. And I said the same thing to him to his face.

But you guys came off as if I wasted money... because it didn't have JHM's logo stamped on it. Which sorry shows the class of this site. Look at the first 3 posts and see why anyone wouldn't start off being a dick. If anyone says they wouldn't they would be a liar.

I agree JHM makes great products but like in any genre of the automotive world price doesn't always mean BEST! You always have a shop company whos cars are the fastest, make the most power. And instantly means they are the best and everything else sucks... I picked up a nice jump in power and torque which is all I wanted and care about.

[Justincredible]

Well I am sorry if I came off as DICKISH... but I was telling the truth. And I said the same thing to him to his face.

But you guys came off as if I wasted money... because it didn't have JHM's logo stamped on it. Which sorry shows the class of this site. Look at the first 3 posts and see why anyone wouldn't start off being a dick. If anyone says they wouldn't they would be a liar.

I agree JHM makes great products but like in any genre of the automotive world price doesn't always mean BEST! You always have a shop company whos cars are the fastest, make the most power. And instantly means they are the best and everything else sucks... I picked up a nice jump in power and torque which is all I wanted and care about.

Pitting your car Vs another car with completely different mods isn't a apples to apples test. I was just looking to point out how some of the parts you had vs what he had were actually not helping his car on the dyno.

Also he didn't have 5k in parts that effect the dyno so I agree that your comment was way off base.. A LW flywheel is going to harm you power wise on the dyno not help. You also had parts that don't make the car accelerate faster but help on the dyno. Performance parts for hp wise you both were quite close in the amount of parts per actual performance. Some of his parts were actually costing him dyno hp.

in all fairness people have been very unhappy in the past with the unitronic tune. Most people were not bashing so much as stating. I Agree that if you wanted to get a Ebay tune better for you IF YOUR HAPPY.

Still members are going to step in and say. HEY There is something better. From being in several cars and doing tests on ALL The tunes before I got my JHM tune. I have to agree with the people that have switched from uni or what ever to JHM stating that the JHM Tune made more power and was a better chip. I also agree with the past results that have shown the JHM to make more power as its been done several times.



In the end if your happy we are all happy. People get the sprint booster and are happy. Thats good enough for me.

I think my biggest issue here is you own a GM and IM a ford guy. LOL just kidding. were all Audi and car lovers and were all happy to see another great running B6 S4 let alone a avant.

[V8S4Ryan]

Just to jump back in this lol. Im happy that my car is that close to 300 wheel. but I do want to fix the small exhaust issue and get an x pipe to free up that extra bit thats lurking in the car. I also have 118k on mine and I dont have the stock air box just a cone filter on the maf(i know this is bad im working on building an air box that works.) so im going to the track to see what my gains are cause I have some before time slips to compare to. The butt dyno says its way faster but we shall see. And m-dub is a cool dude. So im not pissed at him but if he comes out in two weeks to the track we can really see what diffrences the cars have. A little more testing if you will. AND IM NOT CALLING HIM OUT.

[M-Dub]

I would love to actually. I am heading to Franks for the downpipes next weekend though. Maybe if I get done I can swing around. I would love to throw this car down the strip. I haven't launched an AWD car in a looong time, should be fun to actually get some traction.

[M-Dub]

Pitting your car Vs another car with completely different mods isn't a apples to apples test. I was just looking to point out how some of the parts you had vs what he had were actually not helping his car on the dyno.

Also he didn't have 5k in parts that effect the dyno so I agree that your comment was way off base.. A LW flywheel is going to harm you power wise on the dyno not help. You also had parts that don't make the car accelerate faster but help on the dyno. Performance parts for hp wise you both were quite close in the amount of parts per actual performance. Some of his parts were actually costing him dyno hp.

in all fairness people have been very unhappy in the past with the unitronic tune. Most people were not bashing so much as stating. I Agree that if you wanted to get a Ebay tune better for you IF YOUR HAPPY.

Still members are going to step in and say. HEY There is something better. From being in several cars and doing tests on ALL The tunes before I got my JHM tune. I have to agree with the people that have switched from uni or what ever to JHM stating that the JHM Tune made more power and was a better chip. I also agree with the past results that have shown the JHM to make more power as its been done several times.



In the end if your happy we are all happy. People get the sprint booster and are happy. Thats good enough for me.

I think my biggest issue here is you own a GM and IM a ford guy. LOL just kidding. were all Audi and car lovers and were all happy to see another great running B6 S4 let alone a avant.

Something along this line would have gone alot further than the, your stupid, you wasted your money and the other blah blah blah fanboy talk. I appreciate everyone's opinion... but coming off like a group of nutswingers doesn't go well for people like me.

[JRMSLINEA4]

Soo... full bolt on JHM tune, intake manifold, intake manifold spacers, Trex turk catless downpipes, AWE exhaust, intake, light weight flywheel, clutch, lightweight crank pulley..... 299awhp 302awtq 4th gear pulls.

ME: Evo MS Intake, Custom Borla exhaust and unitronics stage 2... 284 and 282 4th gear and 292 and 290 3rd gear... which vs. my stock 3rd gear pulls which was 264 and 253. AND remember still on full OEM downpipes.


SOOO you guys can say all you want my car did exactly what I wanted... :) I'm happy!


UNITRONIC FTW! BTW he left from what I heard a quite unhappy person... car is nice sounded great and a very nice guy! But I'll keep my $5k I saved and use it for something else.

Very nice.. I'm thinking it might be worth it to drive a-little longer to my Unitronics dealer.

[crazyfasts4]

Why don't you race the JHM car instead of sitting there and comparing dyno numbers. It's not just power that JHM focuses on with their tune, Audi implements A torque limiter that actually limits accel. No matter what mods you do, you'll make more power but the ecu will only allow the car to move out so quick. JHM is the only company that disables that in their tune along with 100+ other settings to make the car move quicker. Unitronic adjusts 6 settings. Also you get free updates and launch assist with JHM which you don't with any other tune because no other tuner cares enough about the 4.2 in order to do so. So keep supporting unitronic and fund their big turbo 1.8t and 2.0t software development instead of helping a company who actually gives a damn about the 4.2. I own a b5 s4 and I know better. A company comes along that actually gives a damn about you guys and a bunch of you try to pove them wrong at any chance you get just cuz you are that ignorant. They fucking ban the only good member on ths forum and all the shit rises to the top of this sewer again. Great job...

[rebelbowtie]

They're going to race in two weeks...Reading is fundamental

[bangoman]

JHM is the only company that disables that in their tune along with 100+ other settings to make the car move quicker. Unitronic adjusts 6 settings. Also you get free updates and launch assist with JHM which you don't with any other tune because no other tuner cares enough about the 4.2 in order to do so. So keep supporting unitronic and fund their big turbo 1.8t and 2.0t software development instead of helping a company who actually gives a damn about the 4.2. I own a b5 s4 and I know better. A company comes along that actually gives a damn about you guys and a bunch of you try to pove them wrong at any chance you get just cuz you are that ignorant. They fucking ban the only good member on ths forum and all the shit rises to the top of this sewer again. Great job...

Good points.

[B6JoeS4]

Why don't you race the JHM car instead of sitting there and comparing dyno numbers. It's not just power that JHM focuses on with their tune, Audi implements A torque limiter that actually limits accel. No matter what mods you do, you'll make more power but the ecu will only allow the car to move out so quick. JHM is the only company that disables that in their tune along with 100+ other settings to make the car move quicker. Unitronic adjusts 6 settings. Also you get free updates and launch assist with JHM which you don't with any other tune because no other tuner cares enough about the 4.2 in order to do so. So keep supporting unitronic and fund their big turbo 1.8t and 2.0t software development instead of helping a company who actually gives a damn about the 4.2. I own a b5 s4 and I know better. A company comes along that actually gives a damn about you guys and a bunch of you try to pove them wrong at any chance you get just cuz you are that ignorant. They fucking ban the only good member on ths forum and all the shit rises to the top of this sewer again. Great job...

win

[vdubjetta02]

LOL you guys kill me.

1.) I did not want any down time... so sending my ECU out to JHM or waiting for them to send one to me wasn't going to happen.
2.) I NEVER SAID I WAS FASTER.... EVER! I said TEST. GOT DAMN you guys are soo arrogant!

I told him that I am sure he is FASTER, I have had the car 5 months, and saw some nice gains so who cares. I'm not about the MOST POWER EVAR! If I wanted nothing but full out HP I would have kept my almost 600whp Cobalt.

but then you would have had a FWD car & a cobalt...... lol, sorry, I hate cobalts & I can't stand driving FWD cars over 300 WHP...

Back to your tune. Does unitronic get rid of the CEL for no cats??

[M-Dub]

Yes it disabled the cat code... and I agree. I would have a very fast FWD car... or basically a car that just sits and spins till about 65-70mph! lol

[EUROSWAGR]

LOL you guys kill me.

1.) I did not want any down time... so sending my ECU out to JHM or waiting for them to send one to me wasn't going to happen.
2.) I NEVER SAID I WAS FASTER.... EVER! I said TEST. GOT DAMN you guys are soo arrogant!

I told him that I am sure he is FASTER, I have had the car 5 months, and saw some nice gains so who cares. I'm not about the MOST POWER EVAR! If I wanted nothing but full out HP I would have kept my almost 600whp Cobalt.

Not to be a dick, but how much did you round up on the 600whp comment?

Also, I would definitely be down of we can get a group of S4's at Coastal Plains in Jacksonville, NC....regardless of who they are tuned by, I am a JHM tuned B7, nut swinger by no means, I just believe in proof, and JHM does nothing but PROVE they are the best.

[M-Dub]

Not to be a dick, but how much did you round up on the 600whp comment?

Also, I would definitely be down of we can get a group of S4's at Coastal Plains in Jacksonville, NC....regardless of who they are tuned by, I am a JHM tuned B7, nut swinger by no means, I just believe in proof, and JHM does nothing but PROVE they are the best.

The final big turbo numbers on my white cobalt was 589 and 555. So 11whp! :)

[R&Cs4]

The final big turbo numbers on my white cobalt was 589 and 555. So 11whp! :)

I wouldn't go around advertising on here that you dumped money into a 4 door, FWD Cobalt lol. 60whp or 600, it's still a Cobalt.

Props for upgrading to the S.

[beemercer]

got a vagcom? I'd be interested in seeing some logs

besides mods, health/maintenance of the car is going to be a player in how much power everyone is making... we've seen very well modded cars make shit power and low trap speeds because of bad compression and other maintenance issues

but considering mods, with the awe garbage catback the ported intake and catless downpipes arent going to work as well as they can to help the car breathe.. so stock airbox, with flapper/fender inlet mods and something straight through/x-pipe/2.5" and it will be a much different comparison

[M-Dub]

I personally do not have VAGCOM but a friend of mine does... I can go do some logs. I have done all the maintainance as well as compression checks and what not here at the shop I work at. I know my car is in as good as health as it can be right now.

[M-Dub]

I wouldn't go around advertising on here that you dumped money into a 4 door, FWD Cobalt lol. 60whp or 600, it's still a Cobalt.

Props for upgrading to the S.

What difference does it make what I throw my money into? I've had everything from a 69 CHevelle SS396 to a Cobalt SS every genre is going to have haters. If you don't like it so what. I did, I still enjoy the cars. But the S4 is a much nicer step up for sure.

[V8S4Ryan]

ok euroswagger im planning on going to coastal plians in two weeks so i think it the 11th. i just need to confirm that they are going to be open. ill keep you updated. and beem i have not done a compersion test but i have like high 800 miles on the car. after having all the parts installed and timimg chain guides and fixing some head issues i had( bad ext cam two bad rocker arms and one bad lifter) got it fixed and noticed a huge diffrence in the way the car runs. no more chain rattle at start up. plus the car sounds smoother.

[V8S4Ryan]

ok so im going to coastal plians dragway on sunday the 12th of febuary. the track opens at 11:30am and timed runs start at 12-4 its 20.00 for car and driver and 10.00 for spectators. its time see the improvements of all my parts.

[EUROSWAGR]

ok so im going to coastal plians dragway on sunday the 12th of febuary. the track opens at 11:30am and timed runs start at 12-4 its 20.00 for car and driver and 10.00 for spectators. its time see the improvements of all my parts.

Hey man, I may definitely come out to watch depending on the weather, but I'm not running until I upgrade to a JHM clutch. My best is a 13.4 out there and I know I could probably get it down a little lower with some more seat time, but I don't want to destroy my clutch right now.

[V8S4Ryan]

Either way I hope you make it out