Akebono Ceramic part number for rear pads (standard '10 A4)?

[Emission]

I ordered EUR1348 and they are too small. What is the correct part number for the rear pads?

- Mike

[B8_Jim]

I ordered EUR1348 and they are too small. What is the correct part number for the rear pads?

- Mike

Akebono's own on-line parts catalog lists EUR1348 as the part for the 2010 rear (EUR1322 for the front).

When you say "too small" - do they not fit in the calipers, or are they just smaller surface area than stock? I had good luck with akebono on my last car, was thinking I'd go with them again, but...

Keep us unformed please.

[Emission]

Akebono's own on-line parts catalog lists EUR1348 as the part for the 2010 rear (EUR1322 for the front).

When you say "too small" - do they not fit in the calipers, or are they just smaller surface area than stock? I had good luck with akebono on my last car, was thinking I'd go with them again, but...

Keep us unformed please.

Audi uses either 345 mm or 320 mm rotors on the front of the B8 A4. I have 320 mm rotors, so my front pads were EUR1322 as you indicated.

Just to make things more confusing, it seems that Audi also uses 330 mm or 300 mm rotors on the rear of the B8 A4. The pads I bought (EUR1348) are too small to fit inside the caliper — I assume that they are for the 300 mm rear rotor?

Oddly, that would mean my '10 A4 has 320 mm rotors in the front and 330 mm rotors in the rear. But that doesn't make any sense at all.

- Mike

[B8_Jim]

Audi uses either 345 mm or 320 mm rotors on the front of the B8 A4. I have 320 mm rotors, so my front pads were EUR1322 as you indicated.

Just to make things more confusing, it seems that Audi also uses 330 mm or 300 mm rotors on the rear of the B8 A4. The pads I bought (EUR1348) are too small to fit inside the caliper — I assume that they are for the 300 mm rear rotor?

Oddly, that would mean my '10 A4 has 320 mm rotors in the front and 330 mm rotors in the rear. But that doesn't make any sense at all.

I'm relatively sure the 345 front/330 rear spec is for the S4, not A4 - I think the A4 should be 330/300 now (10+, I believe my '09 has 320/288). Maybe the 1348's are for the 288mm brakes(?), but akebono doesn't list any rear part for my car, only the '10s.

Oddly, Tirerack lists the same part #'s for rear rotors/pads for the '09 and '10 and a lot of sites don't have rear pads for my car - they only come up with part#'s for the cab version which was still the B7...

[Emission]

I'm relatively sure the 345 front/330 rear spec is for the S4, not A4 - I think the A4 should be 330/300 now (10+, I believe my '09 has 320/288). Maybe the 1348's are for the 288mm brakes(?), but akebono doesn't list any rear part for my car, only the '10s.

Oddly, Tirerack lists the same part #'s for rear rotors/pads for the '09 and '10 and a lot of sites don't have rear pads for my car - they only come up with part#'s for the cab version which was still the B7...

You know, I think you are correct. The '10 S4 would be 345mm/330mm, the '10 A4 would be 320mm/300mm... and the EUR1348 pads are for the 288mm rear rotors on the '09.

Thanks, now to find the Akebono part number for the 300mm rears... I also noticed that Tire Rack wasn't helpful.

- Mike

[maga4]

I was looking at these after reading about them on the s4 board. Seems like they have gotten solid reviews all around. Please let us know what you think once you have them. Thanks!

[Emission]

I was looking at these after reading about them on the s4 board. Seems like they have gotten solid reviews all around. Please let us know what you think once you have them. Thanks!

I have had them before. Like all "ceramic compound" brakes, the initial bite isn't as strong as it is with OEM pads... but brake dust is virtually eliminated. Once you get on the pedal, they stop really well (better than OEM under high-temp conditions). However, as many will tell you, there is an adjustment period while you get used to the unique braking properties. I don't track my A4, but I wanted ZERO brake dust and solid brakes... Akebono was the way to go.

- Mike

[maga4]

I have had them before. Like all "ceramic compound" brakes, the initial bite isn't as strong as it is with OEM pads... but brake dust is virtually eliminated. Once you get on the pedal, they stop really well (better than OEM under high-temp conditions). However, as many will tell you, there is an adjustment period while you get used to the unique braking properties. I don't track my A4, but I wanted ZERO brake dust and solid brakes... Akebono was the way to go.

- Mike

Awesome, thank you for sharing. I am getting bored of cleaning my wheels every few days haha. I am the same way in that I never track my car but want less brake dust. Is the feel "worse" at all or is it just and adjustment period as you said? Thanks again!

[Emission]

The technical term is "initial bite." Basically, how a vehicle's brakes respond to the first second of application. Most German cars have very strong ititial bite, meaning they feel "strong" to the average consumer (your average Joe associates grabby brakes with effective brakes). The ceramics will be less grabby, but they are stronger if you press the pedal a bit harder. That said, they will hold up to a lot more heat. So, after five hard stops the OEM brakes will start to fade while the ceramics will still stop strongly with a harder pedal.

They are every bit as good (better?), but they will feel different at first.

- Mike

[Emission]

Another research update:

My (too small) EUR1348 pads = 105 mm x 56 mm

But I found these for the B8 A4 that appear correct:

http://andrew-racing.com/i-7106132-d...b642z-658.html

Note the size:

Hawk Performance HB642Z.658 = 117 mm x 59 mm

That was about the width that I was missing... So, I need to find the Akebono pads in that size.

- Mike

[Emission]

I couldn't find any Akebono pads in that size, so I ordered the Hawk Performance Ceramics HB642Z.658 from Tire Rack — I will install on Wednesday evening.

- Mike

[ECS Tuning-Audi]

Akebono Ceramic rear pads are available below.

Click HERE to order or for more information.

Let me know if you have any questions.

Jason

[Emission]

Akebono Ceramic rear pads are available below.

Click HERE to order or for more information.

Let me know if you have any questions.

Jason

Jason, those are the S4 rear pads... for larger 330 mm rotors. I have 300 mm rear rotors.

- Mike


- Mike

[ECS Tuning-Audi]

Rears for 300mm are HERE. Double checked with Akebonos application too.

Jason

[Emission]

Rears for 300mm are HERE. Double checked with Akebonos application too.

Jason

Jason,

Thanks for following up... but I have four of those in a box on my desk (EUR1348). They are slightly too small... those are for the 288 mm rear rotors (2008-2009). Audi went with a slightly larger rear in 2010, just to drive us all nuts. Nearly everyone has them wrong on their order sheets.

- Mike

[ECS Tuning-Audi]

Mike,

Send me your VIN I'll be able to tell you exactly what rotor/ brake pads ( part numbers) came on your car. I even checked Akebono's site and they are giving the 1348 for 2010 models.

We'll get to the bottom of this! I'm curious as well.

Jason

[Emission]

Mike,

Send me your VIN I'll be able to tell you exactly what rotor/ brake pads ( part numbers) came on your car. I even checked Akebono's site and they are giving the 1348 for 2010 models.

We'll get to the bottom of this! I'm curious as well.

Jason

WAUEFAFL7AN032506


- Mike

[ECS Tuning-Audi]

Rotors are indeed 300mm. Only thing I am getting for that rotor size are OEM style by Akebono. They must not make a 300mm ceramic pad. I've checked with all of our venders and its either the EUR1018 (S4) or the EUR1348 (288mm) that they list for the A4

The OEM style for 300mm are HERE

Jason

[Emission]

Rotors are indeed 300mm. Only thing I am getting for that rotor size are OEM style by Akebono. They must not make a 300mm ceramic pad. I've checked with all of our venders and its either the EUR1018 (S4) or the EUR1348 (288mm) that they list for the A4

The OEM style for 300mm are HERE

Jason

Yeah, I saw the OEM pads on your site.

Truth is, my rear pads are only down about 50 percent. I am replacing them early just to eliminate brake dust as it is a big annoyance (this is my daily driver — when I don't have free press cars in my driveway). Thus explaining why I am going with ceramics. I found that HAWK makes them. I am hoping they fit!

Thanks for all of your help.

- Mike

[ECS Tuning-Audi]

Best of luck with the Hawks definitely post up when you get to installing them.

I've sent an e-mail to Akebono letting them know they might have a mix up with their ceramic pads in attempts to get more info.

Jason

[Emission]

Best of luck with the Hawks definitely post up when you get to installing them.

I've sent an e-mail to Akebono letting them know they might have a mix up with their ceramic pads in attempts to get more info.

Jason

Being the rear pads on a FWD Audi with CVT, I won't get much sense of their capability. However, I will let everyone know if they fit or not!

Thanks again Jason, you are a great resource (next time I buy at ECS).

- Mike

[ECS Tuning-Audi]

Being the rear pads on a FWD Audi with CVT, I won't get much sense of their capability. However, I will let everyone know if they fit or not!

Thanks again Jason, you are a great resource (next time I buy at ECS).

- Mike

Glad I could help! Feel free to shoot me a PM or e-mail (Jason@ecstuning.com) if you ever have any questions!

Jason

[B8_Jim]

Glad I could help! Feel free to shoot me a PM or e-mail (Jason@ecstuning.com) if you ever have any questions!

Jason

Jason, Mike

Is it confirmed that the EUR1348 will fit the '09 288mm rears? Akebono's parts catalog does not list these as an option for my '09. Like I said, I had good luck with them on my B5 (low dust and almost the same color as the wheels for what dust there was) so I was considering going with them again, but I want to avoid this kind of mix-up.

BTW - Jason - got my spacers installed this weekend I ordered from you guys - quality product, and love the look. Thanks!

[ECS Tuning-Audi]

For the 09 Akebono lists EUR1322 as the part number for the rear pads.

I'm going to correct myself and say that the EUR1348 could fit 288 but its not confirmed.

I'm waiting on a response from Akebono and as soon as I hear from them I'll post with confirmations.

Jason

:: Edit Spoke with Akebono and there does seem to be a mix up with the part numbers for the 2010 model. 09 is good to go. Both his parts guys are out sick today so he will have an answer/confirmation on the 2010 rear pads part number.

As soon as I get confirmation I'll update our site and this thread.

Cheers!

Jason

[B8_Jim]

For the 09 Akebono lists EUR1322 as the part number for the rear pads.

Jason - is that a typo???? EUR1322 should be the FRONT pads for both the '09 and '10 - both use 320mm units - right?

:: Edit Spoke with Akebono and there does seem to be a mix up with the part numbers for the 2010 model. 09 is good to go.

So for the '09 288's I would need EUR1348 REAR/ EUR1322 FRONT ??

Again - thanks for the help!

[ECS Tuning-Audi]

Jason - is that a typo???? EUR1322 should be the FRONT pads for both the '09 and '10 - both use 320mm units - right?



So for the '09 288's I would need EUR1348 REAR/ EUR1322 FRONT ??

Again - thanks for the help!

For the 09 they list EUR1111 for the front and EUR1322 for the rear

I'm using the site below as a reference. Its right from their catalog.

See HERE

When I spoke to Akebono yesterday on the phone they said there was an error with their applications. I should have some confirmations on correct part numbers by the end of the day.

Jason

[B8_Jim]

For the 09 they list EUR1111 for the front and EUR1322 for the rear

Hi Jason - look again... Both parts listed in their catalog are FRONT applications. EUR1111 is for the '09 Cab (which was the B7 platform), EUR1322 is for the "base" which is the B8. They don't list a rear pad, that's why I'm curious if the EUR1348 are the right pads for the '09 rear.

Do let us know what you hear from Akebono.

Thanks!

[Emission]

Hi Jason - look again... Both parts listed in their catalog are FRONT applications. EUR1111 is for the '09 Cab (which was the B7 platform), EUR1322 is for the "base" which is the B8. They don't list a rear pad, that's why I'm curious if the EUR1348 are the right pads for the '09 rear.

Do let us know what you hear from Akebono.

Thanks!

The EUR1348 pads are small. I would assume they fit the 288 mm rear rotors.

- Mike

[ECS Tuning-Audi]

Hi Jason - look again... Both parts listed in their catalog are FRONT applications. EUR1111 is for the '09 Cab (which was the B7 platform), EUR1322 is for the "base" which is the B8. They don't list a rear pad, that's why I'm curious if the EUR1348 are the right pads for the '09 rear.

Do let us know what you hear from Akebono.

Thanks!

D'oh! My mistake! You are correct. Thanks for catching that!

I'll let you guys know about the rears when I hear from Akebono ( if EUR1348 is confirmed to fit 288mm and what the confirmed part number for 300mm is).

Jason

[Emission]

I've been doing brakes for twenty years, and I have never had this many issues/confusion trying to get the proper rotors/pads. It is frustrating to learn how many different rotor/pad combinations Audi uses on its B8.

- Mike

[ECS Tuning-Audi]

I've been doing brakes for twenty years, and I have never had this many issues/confusion trying to get the proper rotors/pads. It is frustrating to learn how many different rotor/pad combinations Audi uses on its B8.

- Mike

Don't feel bad! I've seen this issue plenty of times. Audi is notorious for having a zillion different options for brakes on different models. Another example is the A6 - dear God does it have 4 pads per caliper or 2 pads per caliper, I think rotor sizes change a few times too!! It's a mess.

Jason

[ECS Tuning-Audi]

So I heard back from Akebono for the 2010 model you would need a EUR1018 this fits the rear 300mm rear rotors.

They said the EUR1348 fits the 09 cab.

They will have their applications fixed in there on line catalog shortly.

Jason

[Emission]

So I heard back from Akebono for the 2010 model you would need a EUR1018 this fits the rear 300mm rear rotors.

They said the EUR1348 fits the 09 cab.

They will have their applications fixed in there on line catalog shortly.

Jason

So, how much do you sell the EUR1018 for?

- Mike

[ECS Tuning-Audi]

$82.48

Click HERE to order or for more information.

Jason

[Emission]

Nevermind, found them:

http://www.ecstuning.com/Search/EUR1018/ES2063841/



- Mike

[maga4]

Jason/ECS - sorry if I am dense, but what would be the right pads for a non-2009 B8? I have a 2011 and would like to get these in the next few weeks. Thanks!

[B8_Jim]

Jason/ECS - sorry if I am dense, but what would be the right pads for a non-2009 B8? I have a 2011 and would like to get these in the next few weeks. Thanks!

Since Emission has a 2010 which I'm relatively sure has the same spec as the 2011, your should be EUR1322 front, EUR1018 rear.

It's the 2009's that I'm still a bit unsure of - the EUR1322 will fit the front, but the rear pads are unknown, esp since the EUR1348 are now confirmed to fit the B7 chassis cabriolet.

Hoping Jason/ECS can work their magic and let me know which pads fit my car :)

[maga4]

Since Emission has a 2010 which I'm relatively sure has the same spec as the 2011, your should be EUR1322 front, EUR1018 rear.

It's the 2009's that I'm still a bit unsure of - the EUR1322 will fit the front, but the rear pads are unknown, esp since the EUR1348 are now confirmed to fit the B7 chassis cabriolet.

Hoping Jason/ECS can work their magic and let me know which pads fit my car :)

Awesome, thanks Jim!!

[ECS Tuning-Audi]

Finally have an answer!

EUR1348 is confirmed to fit vehicles with 288mm rotors. Since our site categorizes the B8 as 09+ I had to go to the B7 section (which 05-08 all have 288mm rears) to get the OEM pad manufacturing number. I then cross referenced that on Akebono's site and the pad that came up was EUR1348.

The fact that Audi changed to a 300mm in '10+ is what is causing the mix up.

So in conclusion rear pads are as so..

B7 ('05-'08) EUR1348

B8 '09 EUR1348

B8 '10+ EUR1018

Cheers!

Jason

[Emission]

Finally have an answer!

EUR1348 is confirmed to fit vehicles with 288mm rotors. Since our site categorizes the B8 as 09+ I had to go to the B7 section (which 05-08 all have 288mm rears) to get the OEM pad manufacturing number. I then cross referenced that on Akebono's site and the pad that came up was EUR1348.

The fact that Audi changed to a 300mm in '10+ is what is causing the mix up.

So in conclusion rear pads are as so..

B7 ('05-'08) EUR1348

B8 '09 EUR1348

B8 '10+ EUR1018

Cheers!

Jason

Excellent work Jason.

The funny thing is, we seem to be the only people on the planet who know the above information — I have yet to come across a site which has the '10 B8 right.

- Mike