.:EuroCode Tuning:. Hpipe High Flow Catalytic Conv., B8 A4/A5 2.0 TSI $319 Shipped!!
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The perfect compliment all Stage I or Stage II programming, check out our Hpipe High Flow Catalytic Converter. Priced at only $319.00, not only is it the best performing HFC on the market, but one of the most affordable too!!
In addition to unleashing the hidden potential of the TSI motor, our Hpipe also passed California's strict emissions test with flying colors!!!
Our Hpipe is always in stock and every single order will ship out the same business day as the order is placed (any order received over the weekend will be shipped the following Monday morning)
Product Details:
Manufactured from T304 aircraft quality stainless steel with mandrel-bent 3" diameter tubing and polished to a mirror shine. Our High Flow Cat has proven a solid 16HP & 19lb-ft Torque @ 4600RPM to the WHEELS on a chassis dynamometer (APR Stage I, Stage II results coming soon!!!)
The factory cat is extremely restrictive, and by just replacing it with this bolt on HPipe which goes in-line with your factory or aftermarket exhaust system, you will unleash the hidden potential of your 2.0TSI motor not to mention quicker spool up of the turbo.
Our H-pipe features a 200 cell, 3.5 inch inlet, 3.5 inch outlet, round spun metallic ULTRA High-Flow Performance Catalyst, which we have found to be the highest flowing catalyst available.
Tested at 1000 cfm range @ 28" of H2O to flow ~600 CFM. The one piece spun body long neck design and 200 cell density metal composite core make for the best flowing catalyst while providing compact packaging and extreme durability.
The information below was obtained from a customer who chose to dyno the car completely stock vs. the EuroCode Tuning HPipe on California 91oct fuel at an independent shop. All gains were measured at the wheels thus the gains at the crankshaft will naturally be greater due power train loss. The graphs show the gains at the crank shaft.
All numbers indicate increase levels of HP & lb-ft of Torque at the wheels for a Quattro 2.0TSI B8 A4 6 Speed. The gains are identical on a B8 A5 2.0TSI.
**please be aware that in the State of California, you can only replace your catalyst with an OEM product to pass emissions, our unit was only tested in order to show that the emissions output meets CA standards.
EuroCode Tuning, Inc.
1872 Del Amo Blvd Unit A
Torrance, CA 90501
310-294-8108
If you have APR, you can upgrade to the Stage II+ file with out catalytic converter. The Stage II+ file has a diffferent boost profile (to take advantage of the more free flow exhaust) and will eliminate any MIL associated with catalyst efficiency.
The only circumstances in which you would need a spacer is if 1.) you were on stock programming 2.) you have GIAC (STaSIS) as they do not offer a stage II file.
EuroCode Tuning, Inc.
1872 Del Amo Blvd Unit A
Torrance, CA 90501
310-294-8108
Yepp - I'm on stock ECU Programming and going to stay that way. I get a CEL every great once in a while if I really get on it, but it goes away w/in 10 miles or so.
If you have APR, you can upgrade to the Stage II+ file with out catalytic converter. The Stage II+ file has a diffferent boost profile (to take advantage of the more free flow exhaust) and will eliminate any MIL associated with catalyst efficiency.
The only circumstances in which you would need a spacer is if 1.) you were on stock programming 2.) you have GIAC (STaSIS) as they do not offer a stage II file.
Or 3.) You want to pass (yearly) emissions testing where they check for sensor readiness. TX is one from what I understand.
As I understand it ... The APR MIL eliminate tune sets the 2nd O2 sensor to "not ready" or does something that makes it report not ready. A version that does not do that is available, but without a spacer CEL/MIL lights are likely, and that also is a fail for emissions.
I'd like to have the power/performance that comes with Stage II, but don't want the cost/hassle of having to pull a HFC and put in the stock CAT every year. Sounds like there has been some luck with the Strat spacers, but my local shop estimated $300 to install this thing. Don't want to have to be swapping stock/HFC for emissions.
Eurocode - how many hours or what do you charge to do a HFC install. Is $300 out of line, or is it that tricky?
We charge 1 hour for a MT, 1.5 hours for a TIP. Our HFC will pass readiness no issues when used with APR Stage I. We suggest Stage II since the boost profile is modified to take advantage of the free flowing exhaust. Pretty much every weekend we are flashing a car back to Stage I (on stage II cars) so they can do there bi-annual emissions test. It really brings to light how many cars we have flashed in the past.
At our shop, switching between I and II is complimentary, it takes about 10-15 minutes each time.
EuroCode Tuning, Inc.
1872 Del Amo Blvd Unit A
Torrance, CA 90501
310-294-8108
quick question, so if i have a Catback already is this consider the downpipe?..im just looking to change my Downpipe. so i can have a tru turboback and it would be nice to have this 3.5 one along with my 2.5 catback.
The term "downpipe" is deceptive on a Audi. On the A4 and A4 the catalytic converter connects directly to the turbo, so essantially it is a "downpipe" from the catalytic converter you have an intermadiate pipe (some folks calll this the downpipe). This intermediate pipe has a resonator (muffler) in it. Upgrading the intermediate pipe has shown to provide negligible gains (+/- 3-5HP) however you can change the exhaust note with the type of material used and the choice of resonator.
We do make an intermadiate pipe (downpipe) and the sales are not that great, the cost barely is worth the benefit.
EuroCode Tuning, Inc.
1872 Del Amo Blvd Unit A
Torrance, CA 90501
310-294-8108
We charge 1 hour for a MT, 1.5 hours for a TIP. Our HFC will pass readiness no issues when used with APR Stage I. We suggest Stage II since the boost profile is modified to take advantage of the free flowing exhaust. Pretty much every weekend we are flashing a car back to Stage I (on stage II cars) so they can do there bi-annual emissions test. It really brings to light how many cars we have flashed in the past.
At our shop, switching between I and II is complimentary, it takes about 10-15 minutes each time.
So wouldn't Stage II without the CEL "delete" functionality be the same as Stage 1 for the emissions test?
Hmmm... You guys need to open a satellite location in Houston... :)
So wouldn't Stage II without the CEL "delete" functionality be the same as Stage 1 for the emissions test?
Hmmm... You guys need to open a satellite location in Houston... :)
Thanks for the info.
With APR, the stage II file has calibrations that modify the boost profile to take advantage of the more free flow exhaust, also any potential MIL from catalyst readiness is suppressed.
The by product of this is that APR automatically sets the readiness bit for the catalyst to not ready or failed. Some states do a readiness bit check, some states do a tailpipe emissions test, some states do both.
If you have a stage II file and your catalyst will remove enough emissions to pass the tailpipe, then you can switch back to stage I, either drive the car far enough to reset the readiness or you can do a manual readiness reset with an on board diagnostic tool.
EuroCode Tuning, Inc.
1872 Del Amo Blvd Unit A
Torrance, CA 90501
310-294-8108
With APR, the stage II file has calibrations that modify the boost profile to take advantage of the more free flow exhaust, also any potential MIL from catalyst readiness is suppressed.
The by product of this is that APR automatically sets the readiness bit for the catalyst to not ready or failed. Some states do a readiness bit check, some states do a tailpipe emissions test, some states do both.
If you have a stage II file and your catalyst will remove enough emissions to pass the tailpipe, then you can switch back to stage I, either drive the car far enough to reset the readiness or you can do a manual readiness reset with an on board diagnostic tool.
Right - I understand all that...
APR has said they offer a stage II file that doesn't set the readiness bit to not ready/failed to suppress the MIL. Does using the stage I file with a HFC have advantages for the emissions test vs. a stage II file that doesn't have the MIL suppression mods?
Given your tailpipe emissions testing, I'm not worried about passing that part, it's the OBDII scan part - Cat efficiency or "not ready" errors are a automatic fail before they even actually check the emissions.
We are an APR dealer and I have yet to see a stage II file that does not set readiness to not ready/failed. There is no advantage over emissions from stock, to stage I or to stage II as far as the emissions output is concerned. The emissions output will be identical for all three files.
EuroCode Tuning, Inc.
1872 Del Amo Blvd Unit A
Torrance, CA 90501
310-294-8108
We are an APR dealer and I have yet to see a stage II file that does not set readiness to not ready/failed. There is no advantage over emissions from stock, to stage I or to stage II as far as the emissions output is concerned. The emissions output will be identical for all three files.
Contact APR or send Arin a PM. My understanding is that a 'non-testpipe' marked file is available for stage 2 which does not affect the o2 sensor readiness. That is what I was led to believe I have installed on my car a few months ago. The shop I went to had to call APR because the file was not on their server for my boxcode.
I will be using the spacer in order to avoid the CEL, but I wanted to know if there is a more aggressive file to help with additional power due to the higher flow.
We charge 1 hour for a MT, 1.5 hours for a TIP. Our HFC will pass readiness no issues when used with APR Stage I. We suggest Stage II since the boost profile is modified to take advantage of the free flowing exhaust. Pretty much every weekend we are flashing a car back to Stage I (on stage II cars) so they can do there bi-annual emissions test. It really brings to light how many cars we have flashed in the past.
At our shop, switching between I and II is complimentary, it takes about 10-15 minutes each time.
Sorry, I'm slow today.
Just to clarify:
1. Living in California, if I have the Hi-flow Cat with APR Stage II, I will not throw a cell but also will not pass SMOG because of the readiness issue.
2. If I wanted to pass SMOG without removing the Hi-flow Cat I could flash the car back to Stage I, and I'll then be able to pass.
Which leads me to my questions... I thought with the Hi-flow Cat you were pretty much guaranteed to throw a CEL?
So in order to pass SMOG without having to remove the Hi-flow Cat: Get it flashed to Stage I, go drive around "carefully" (so that you don't throw a CEL) until readiness resets, then get it passed, then flashed back to Stage II.
Could you just avoid all this by just getting the 90-bend sensor?
Also, one last question... The great thing with the APR, is you can go stealth mode when taking it in to a dealer. If the HFC Stage II is in stealth mode and the dealer does a diagnostic, won't the readiness issue throw a red flag, and all hell breaks loose?
Thanks again for answering... these questions I have are the only reasons keeping me from going to the HFC and Stage II.
Just to clarify:
1. Living in California, if I have the Hi-flow Cat with APR Stage II, I will not throw a cell but also will not pass SMOG because of the readiness issue.
2. If I wanted to pass SMOG without removing the Hi-flow Cat I could flash the car back to Stage I, and I'll then be able to pass.
Which leads me to my questions... I thought with the Hi-flow Cat you were pretty much guaranteed to throw a CEL?
So in order to pass SMOG without having to remove the Hi-flow Cat: Get it flashed to Stage I, go drive around "carefully" (so that you don't throw a CEL) until readiness resets, then get it passed, then flashed back to Stage II.
Could you just avoid all this by just getting the 90-bend sensor?
Also, one last question... The great thing with the APR, is you can go stealth mode when taking it in to a dealer. If the HFC Stage II is in stealth mode and the dealer does a diagnostic, won't the readiness issue throw a red flag, and all hell breaks loose?
Thanks again for answering... these questions I have are the only reasons keeping me from going to the HFC and Stage II.
Yeah, if I understand correctly, there's a Stage II flash that does not disable the O2 sensor readiness. So, if you get a 90 degrees Stratmosphere spacer that has a "mini-cat" (http://www.stratmosphere.com/product/spacercat90/12), then you shouldn't throw a code and the car should pass emissions.
Just to clarify:
1. Living in California, if I have the Hi-flow Cat with APR Stage II, I will not throw a cell but also will not pass SMOG because of the readiness issue.
2. If I wanted to pass SMOG without removing the Hi-flow Cat I could flash the car back to Stage I, and I'll then be able to pass.
Which leads me to my questions... I thought with the Hi-flow Cat you were pretty much guaranteed to throw a CEL?
So in order to pass SMOG without having to remove the Hi-flow Cat: Get it flashed to Stage I, go drive around "carefully" (so that you don't throw a CEL) until readiness resets, then get it passed, then flashed back to Stage II.
Could you just avoid all this by just getting the 90-bend sensor?
Also, one last question... The great thing with the APR, is you can go stealth mode when taking it in to a dealer. If the HFC Stage II is in stealth mode and the dealer does a diagnostic, won't the readiness issue throw a red flag, and all hell breaks loose?
Thanks again for answering... these questions I have are the only reasons keeping me from going to the HFC and Stage II.
In California, there is no emission testing on your B8 for ten years (unless you sell the car, if so you must provide the buyer with a emissions test that is within 90 days of the sale date)
Our HFC will pass CA state sniffer test however IT IS NOT LEGAL in California to change your catalytic converter. If your cat fails it must be replaced with a new OEM part. There are no OEM equivalents.
Our high flow cat and test pipe are listed for OFF ROAD USE ONLY.
These are the laws in California when it comes to emissions. The APR Stage II file will not pass CA emissions because the readiness does not pass. If APR has a special file, this is news to us and should be addressed to them.
The dealer does not need to even think about a STEALTH mode because this is a urban legend created on the forums. If the dealer wants to see if you have a modified ECU all they have to do is read the code on the chip. By putting the car to stock load levels when you take it io the dealership, this avoids any red flags during the test drive of the car as the APR programming makes a considerable amount of a power increase over stock.
EuroCode Tuning, Inc.
1872 Del Amo Blvd Unit A
Torrance, CA 90501
310-294-8108
Also, you do not need to drive around until readiness resets, it can be done with the VCDS diagnostic tool under basic settings. Your car will fail the visual inspection if the testing technician sees a non OEM catalytic converter.
EuroCode Tuning, Inc.
1872 Del Amo Blvd Unit A
Torrance, CA 90501
310-294-8108
If APR has a special file, this is news to us and should be addressed to them.
The dealer does not need to even think about a STEALTH mode because this is a urban legend created on the forums. If the dealer wants to see if you have a modified ECU all they have to do is read the code on the chip. By putting the car to stock load levels when you take it io the dealership, this avoids any red flags during the test drive of the car as the APR programming makes a considerable amount of a power increase over stock.
Did I see before (maybe even from APR on here) that they had a file that leaves it in rediness in case someone wants to use a spacer?
Also, I have wondered about the stealth mode deal for a while...can't the dealer just see a check sum or something?
Also, I have wondered about the stealth mode deal for a while...can't the dealer just see a check sum or something?
When you set a tune back to a "stock" mode it has nothing to do with the ECU flash that your car came with from the dealer. It is simply a tune that puts out stock like numbers. Nobody is fooling a dealer of anything by putting their car to this setting when they bring it in. It will stand out as badly as an ECU flash putting out 800 hp if they care to look. The only way to keep a stock setting on an ECU while tuning it is by using a piggyback ECU, and our cars don't have one available as far as I know.
Correct, however the test pipes file has a different N75 duty profile to eliminate the possibility of over boost with a more free flowing exhaust, the file is optimized for a high flow cat or test pipe (in addition to eliminating the MIL). APR could choose to eliminate the MIL and also force readiness to pass, however this is not their style. All of the test pipe files are set to readiness fail.
EuroCode Tuning, Inc.
1872 Del Amo Blvd Unit A
Torrance, CA 90501
310-294-8108
Correct, however the test pipes file has a different N75 duty profile to eliminate the possibility of over boost with a more free flowing exhaust, the file is optimized for a high flow cat or test pipe (in addition to eliminating the MIL). APR could choose to eliminate the MIL and also force readiness to pass, however this is not their style. All of the test pipe files are set to readiness fail.
Arin's response quoted part of this message from John4378 :
"Maybe someone will come out with a Stage III kit that will run software keeping both oxygen sensors "ready" and just have the end user install oxygen sensor spacers in order to not get a CEL. That's what Stage I guys with HFC's do. I don't understand why APR didn't offer this option when they introduced their Stage 2 file. Just frustrating."
To which Arin responded with :
"We offer every file with or without testpipes options. If you want to use spacers and see if that works for you, just ask for the file and if it's not on the server, we'll make it in an hour or so. "
(you can verify these quotes or get more context in the thread I linked to a couple posts up if desired)
I've not contacted APR directly, but it sure sounds like that is saying they have or will make a stage II file that treats the O2 sensors like Stage I. Some other people in a thread talking about O2 spacers (mostly the strat one with a mini-cat in it) imply they have this variant of the SW. http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...-with-catalyst
Am I wrong? I don't have a HFC, or Stage II - just interested for possible future use...
I know you guys have said that spacers never work, but there seem to be a couple of people having luck in the above referenced thread...
Hopefully I am sounding like I am coming off argumentative. The O2 spacers are not a 100% fix, eventually a MIL will appear. Fortunately if the customer has APR, they can access the fault code erase with the cruise control stalk, and soon with the iPhone app they will be able to see what the trouble code is
EuroCode Tuning, Inc.
1872 Del Amo Blvd Unit A
Torrance, CA 90501
310-294-8108
Planning on purchasing to go Stage 2 in the spring. My car will be 4 mths old at the time, could I reuse the hardware/gaskets or should I purchase new ones.
Planning on purchasing to go Stage 2 in the spring. My car will be 4 mths old at the time, could I reuse the hardware/gaskets or should I purchase new ones.
You can reuse it, but not recommended FYI.
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What David said. They are compressed type gaskets from the factory. I recommend getting a new set. I used my old ones since I basically replaced my factory cat a month after receiving my car with the EuroCode HFC, and the gaskets were already used up.
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David/Eurocode - do you have any information on your down pipe? I know you brought it up on one of the threads but havent been able to see it on the website. Is it resonated like APR/BB to reduce or eliminate drone? Really want your HFC but would prefer to have the down pipe replaced too. Thanks!
We have a few in stock but are not actively advertising them. The DP is 3.0" and mates direct to our HFC. It is resonated and includes a reducer to connect it to the factory exhaust or it will mate up to any 3.0" aftermarket cat back system that was designed to mate to the factory down pipe.
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