FIS MOD - What are your thoughts

[smit2100]

STUMBLED ACROSS THIS FIS MOD

http://zzottel.de/index.php/en/car/fis-control

Specifically, I was interested in the boost capability. Is their a limit on what boost values can be displayed directly from the ecu

Also, what are peoples thoughts on downsides of having this installed

[foxhound720]

I am going to do it after the holidays. I emailed the persons address on teh website and he gave me a lot of info. easy to install and useful. Not expensive either.

[dubzackvr6]

I totally forgot about this. For the price it seems incredible!

[dubzackvr6]

From his other vids, it looks like it will go to around 20psi. That's a huge guess :). However, the boost is measured in millibar, and 1000millibar equals 1 bar, or about 14psi. Idk if you can adjust the values to have it show more boost.
It would be easiest just to email the manufacturer and ask.

[NOTORIOUS VR]

^^^ seems like you can adjust, and also he makes an extension board to read boost from an external sensor:

http://zzottel.de/index.php/en/car/f...daughterboards

[S4 00 2.7]

I want.

[julex]

From his other vids, it looks like it will go to around 20psi. That's a huge guess :). However, the boost is measured in millibar, and 1000millibar equals 1 bar, or about 14psi. Idk if you can adjust the values to have it show more boost.
It would be easiest just to email the manufacturer and ask.

It will show what ECU feeds it which means up to 14.5 + 22.5PSI = 37PSI of absolute pressure or 2550 mbar total, including about 1000mbar of current barometric pressure. 1 bar = 14.5PSI of pressure.

As to external sensors, it would be a very involved DIY since you'd have to construct a daughterboard for that.

I don't understand why the guy won't make a generic 0-5v daughterboard with configurable Volt-to-some-unit table inside the DIS module itself... this would enable people to attach more stuff to this without a hassle of learning DIYing of print boards and soldering elements in...

[AudiA4_20T]

Guys seriously you need to wait until the stateside option becomes available its way better for everything we need

[RedB5S4]

This is probably a stupid question, but will this fix dead pixels in the center display? Mine is FUCKED and I'd like to do this, so I'm just wondering if I'd need to send my display out to get fixed prior to ordering this.

[30vQuattro]

Yes on the stupid question^ lol.. It doesn't, only let's you see more information through your pixelated screen

[30vQuattro]

Guys seriously you need to wait until the stateside option becomes available its way better for everything we need

If it ever comes out..

[smit2100]

When will that be (l've heard about it) and will it be under $200 delivered like this product is

Guys seriously you need to wait until the stateside option becomes available its way better for everything we need

[AwdOwns]

Guys seriously you need to wait until the stateside option becomes available its way better for everything we need

Have a link to more info?

[ZZottel]

I don't understand why the guy won't make a generic 0-5v daughterboard with configurable Volt-to-some-unit table inside the DIS module itself... this would enable people to attach more stuff to this without a hassle of learning DIYing of print boards and soldering elements in...

There are many different sensors on the market. Too many to do a generic daughterboard for all applications. But I already did one with a 0-5V input that allows to connect pressure sensors.
The reason I dont'sell these daughterboards is just lack of time. The FIS-Control is a hobby for me. I do all this in my free time. So I decided to focus on the main unit and not to spend too much effort in the daughterboards that are only of interest for a few customers. But maybe I am wrong and there is a huge demand for daughterboards. Maybe there are also guys around, willing to help doing the perfect addon for the S4/RS4. I'd be totally in for this.

Regards, Stefan

[jolio1994]

DOO ITTT!!!!!!!

[NOTORIOUS VR]

There are many different sensors on the market. Too many to do a generic daughterboard for all applications. But I already did one with a 0-5V input that allows to connect pressure sensors.
The reason I dont'sell these daughterboards is just lack of time. The FIS-Control is a hobby for me. I do all this in my free time. So I decided to focus on the main unit and not to spend too much effort in the daughterboards that are only of interest for a few customers. But maybe I am wrong and there is a huge demand for daughterboards. Maybe there are also guys around, willing to help doing the perfect addon for the S4/RS4. I'd be totally in for this.

Regards, Stefan

Like Julex said, if you can offer a daughterboard that has say two 0-5V inputs that are scalable in the soft/firmware you would have a one size fits all solution.

Boost, AFR, etc will all work like that.

[fixn2xlr8]

They should have made the screen out of the same bulbs as the CEL, that ****** never burns out.

[julex]

The root of a problem with your screen IS NOT burning out pixles but wrong kind of material used (namely glue) to assemble the screen. It changes with time and doesn't provide proper conductive path for paths with in LCD resulting in loss of current driving whole rows. It usually works well in cold temps but the warmer it gets, the worse the glue works.

[julex]

There are many different sensors on the market. Too many to do a generic daughterboard for all applications. But I already did one with a 0-5V input that allows to connect pressure sensors.
The reason I dont'sell these daughterboards is just lack of time. The FIS-Control is a hobby for me. I do all this in my free time. So I decided to focus on the main unit and not to spend too much effort in the daughterboards that are only of interest for a few customers. But maybe I am wrong and there is a huge demand for daughterboards. Maybe there are also guys around, willing to help doing the perfect addon for the S4/RS4. I'd be totally in for this.

Regards, Stefan

There is/would be pretty sizable demand since stock limited MAP sensor read out is of little interest to most owners who get RS6/Tial 605/770/GT turbos. Folks with A4s and their GT run-of-themill cars would have a need for such daughterboard as well.

And that's just boost. Then we have AFR which would be nice to have in DIS as well.

Both can easily be served by generic 0-5v input and programmable translation table in main unit...

[Fourplay]

Guys seriously you need to wait until the stateside option becomes available its way better for everything we need

Lol please tell me you are joking. People have been saying this for 2+ years now. Pull the trigger guys, you won't regret it. I've had it for 6 months and I love it.

[B5addiction]

They should have made the screen out of the same bulbs as the CEL, that ****** never burns out.

haha, cheers

[ZZottel]

Like Julex said, if you can offer a daughterboard that has say two 0-5V inputs that are scalable in the soft/firmware you would have a one size fits all solution.

Boost, AFR, etc will all work like that.

As you have seen on my website, there is a daughterboard that has two 0-5V inputs. The schematics for the PCB are published and the software for the microcontroller is open source, so it can be changed to fit different sensors. If there are more people interested in those boards, I can help to do the software (of course I need the specific data of the sensors that shall be connected). But I don't like to be the one who solders the boards. There seems to be a huge community of S4/RS4 drivers around here... is there someone who'd like to build some daughterboards and offer them for a fair price?


But first I want to know, if a boost/AFR-sensorboard is really what you want. I have a lot of other ideas what can be done with the FIS-Control:
- Connect a GPS-receiver to display GPS-speed, position, altitude and all the other data that is available
- Allow to select the different programs of the chip-tuning (like the ones GIAC offers) over a menu on the DIS
- Connect acceleration sensors to the FIS-Control to get a "DIS-driftbox"
- Interface IPods and other media players to navigate through the song collection via a DIS-menu
- Measure the RPM of the engine to indicate on the DIS, when to shift gears
- Use the FIS-Control as hidden display for radar warners
- Control air ride
- Control the exhaust throttle

So thinking of a perfect addon-board for the FIS-Control, how should it look like? I'd like to hear your ideas. But I am a developer and not a manufacturer or salesman, so I will need some help. I also don't have the possibility to test the boards in many different cars, as I dont own so many S4 and RS4's ;-)
So it's up to you.

Regards, Stefan

[NOTORIOUS VR]

As you have seen on my website, there is a daughterboard that has two 0-5V inputs.

Stefan,

I have looked before and just now again and see no mention of two 0-5V inputs?

You have a very nice project here, I think having two 0-5V inputs like you say is available and then allow them to be easily scalable over say 5-6 data points would be quite the hit for most people. Additional options like you've mentioned before would be icing on the cake as we like to say

Welcome to the forums BTW.

MfG,
Sascha

[ZZottel]

Hallo Sascha,

maybe I should add some more info about the boost-daughterboard on my website. Basically I am using three of the 10-bit AD-converters of an Atmel microcontroller to measure 0-5V input voltages. Two inputs are for external sensors like a MAP-sensor. The third input is used for an onboard sensor that measures the ambient pressure. There are some more inputs that will be used for reading the engines RPM and the PWM signal that goes to the N75 valve.

[julex]

The cool thing about our cars is that we already have accelerometers built into ABS/ASR module... These are displayed, I believe, in one of the VAG blocks but I don't remember if that's in ECU or in ABS itself. I think it is ABS module itself that provides that.

[ZZottel]

The ABS-module disconnects OBD above a few mph. So this will give you a perfect driftbox for traffic-calmed streets

[ilyafil]

Lol please tell me you are joking. People have been saying this for 2+ years now. Pull the trigger guys, you won't regret it. I've had it for 6 months and I love it.

I've been reading a while on this, but still can't figure out. Does it display boost and AFR "out of the box", or do I have to make the daughter board and use an external sensor for boost? All I seem to find are MAF sensor displays.

EDIT: Never mind, found it. I guess it can display any measurements that go through the ECU. Cool! Also heard there is another one in development in US. I'm so getting one. Need to fix my pixels though.

[Audi4952]

sweet find.

[MastaJuse]

im gonna buy this just so i can play SNAKE!