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Its about that time. Shooting for 1100-1200whp @5000+ft above sea level. Dedicated track car.
So heres a partial parts list I will update as things progress..
Single Precision 72/75 Billet wheel dual ceramic ball bearing turbo
Ported 2.8L heads with +1mm Fererra valves springs and retainers (9k redline)
GRP Billet Connecting Rods & Bolts
Arias 11.1 Billet Pistons
Raceware Head Studs
Megasquirt MESIII standalone w/ 6 EGT's
Injector Solutions/Precision 330lb Side Feed Injectors -6 lines feeding each injector (no fuel rail, fuel "manifold")
Weldon Fuel pump
Custom 321 Stainless Exhaust Manifolds w/ Burns Stainless Collectors
Custom "Hi-Rise" Aluminum Intake Manifold
CNC Billet Aluminum Intake Manifold Flanges w/ O-ring slots (no more gaskets)
Twin Tail 44mm Wastegates
Precision BOV
Accufab 90mm Throttle Body
LS1 Coilpacks
I was going to run the car on Q16 and after finding out how much a barrel of it would cost, we decided to go with VP M5 Methanol, which will help with cooling, and eliminate the need for an intercooler setup. Still getting the drivetrain figured out, and having some help from a certain trans expert on this forum (he can chime in if he wants...tranny expert lolz) I am also going to have to ditch the stock oil setup and move to a sump system, that way we can preheat the oil, and burn out the methanol (one of the drawbacks to alc is that it will literally make the oil look like frothy milk..) I will try to keep up and remember my camera everyday, as things seem to be progressing quickly!
Holy balls you're crazy! So are you running a custom fiberglass hood with molded bumps, or cutting a channel in the hood or something? Or will the turbo and intake mani fit under the stock hood?
Holy balls you're crazy! So are you running a custom fiberglass hood with molded bumps, or cutting a channel in the hood or something? Or will the turbo and intake mani fit under the stock hood?
it should clear....hopefully lol Ive got the euro gear usa vented hood, and I would REALLY hate to have to cut it. but if it needs to happen...... Ive got a crazy idea to make it look really cool.
it should clear....hopefully lol Ive got the euro gear usa vented hood, and I would REALLY hate to have to cut it. but if it needs to happen...... Ive got a crazy idea to make it look really cool.
Yikes. Good luck. TB on the rear of the engine, or is the charge piping going underneath the IM or something?
Yikes. Good luck. TB on the rear of the engine, or is the charge piping going underneath the IM or something?
yep itll be a tight fit no doubt, but I should also mention, since we are doing the sump system, we will have a MUCH smaller oil pan, and we are making some billet solid motor mounts and should be able to drop the motor down about a half inch or so without messing up the geometry of the axles.
The turbo will have a bend welded on to mate up to the t-body and the IM will have a slope going towards the front of the car so it feeds straight into the IM. So no crazy plumbing. Spent 400 effing $ on a wiggins clamp for it lolz
Couple questions, is one aeromotive pump going to be able to flow that much fuel to 6 330lb injectors? That's a shit load of fuel especially using methanol. Who's tuning this thing for you, I'd imagine he's going to have a fun time getting that to idle? This beast is probably going to be idling at like 2k rpms lol.
Goodluck man I hope for the best!
B5 Casa A4 with a built motor that isn't in the car and a PTE 6262 BB .83 A/R that going sing lag city b*tch lag lag city b*tch.
Couple questions, is one aeromotive pump going to be able to flow that much fuel to 6 330lb injectors? That's a shit load of fuel especially using methanol. Who's tuning this thing for you, I'd imagine he's going to have a fun time getting that to idle? This beast is probably going to be idling at like 2k rpms lol.
Goodluck man I hope for the best!
I was thinking a Weldon, or possibly a mechanical fuel pump. Which ever turns out to be the cheapest to do honestly... My tuner is a local guy, he has a dragster powered by a k24 with a 42r on it with alc. Hes made over a thousand to the ground on a dyno.
The idle should be okay honestly, its getting the temps up with alc that is hard.
With that sump system we will put a heater probe in there, heat it before and after the runs (alc is horrible for your oil, turns it into frothy milk looking stuff) and that will help the start up, while giving us a chance to boil out the methanol out of the oil after every start up. It works great on the dragster...
I was thinking a Weldon, or possibly a mechanical fuel pump. Which ever turns out to be the cheapest to do honestly... My tuner is a local guy, he has a dragster powered by a k24 with a 42r on it with alc. Hes made over a thousand to the ground on a dyno.
The idle should be okay honestly, its getting the temps up with alc that is hard.
With that sump system we will put a heater probe in there, heat it before and after the runs (alc is horrible for your oil, turns it into frothy milk looking stuff) and that will help the start up, while giving us a chance to boil out the methanol out of the oil after every start up. It works great on the dragster...
Excellent, I know you knew what you were doing because not the average person can do this, and it seems like you know the right people. Goodluck sir.
B5 Casa A4 with a built motor that isn't in the car and a PTE 6262 BB .83 A/R that going sing lag city b*tch lag lag city b*tch.
lofty goals, man. you keep up with those pornographic shots of custom intakes and talking dirty to perverts like me with things like dry sump, big turbo, 11.0:1 pistons and methanol ... people might actually take you seriously.
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Ohhh now I see... no kiding here, that's a serious build. Very impressed.
As for the sludge in oil, I'll ask my friend Martin Tanguay. His turbo dragster and drag car both runs on alcohol. And this was part of his issue back then. I know he found an oil recipe that prevent this. He said his oil last longer that way but I just don't remember what it is. I'll see him at pont rouge track Saturday I'll be back with the info. Good luck by the way... Nice build.
This build sounds like a lot of fun. Its nice to see someone build a dedicated drag S4. Did you mention what you will be using for axles and rear diff?
This build sounds like a lot of fun. Its nice to see someone build a dedicated drag S4. Did you mention what you will be using for axles and rear diff?
Evan
I'm thinking I'll have to give DSS a call for axels, and possibly a modified mark Williams rear end.
Originally Posted by gearhead1186
serious list of parts. best of luck!
you didnt mention what cams you will be using.
We were going to try and use the 2.8/2.7, that may not be enough , that's one of the loose ends (of many at this point).
Thanks everyone!! it been 3 years since this car was running, and my boss/fabricator/Jeff almost threw the towel in on running his shop. Needless to say I am so happy with the progress we've made since the begining of June.
Sweet build man...looks like you know how to do a little fabricating. My question for you good sir is with a goal of 1100hp and solid billet motor mounts how do you plan on bracing the chassis?
Sorry if I missed it...What lifters do you plan on running?
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Sweet build man...looks like you know how to do a little fabricating. My question for you good sir is with a goal of 1100hp and solid billet motor mounts how do you plan on bracing the chassis?
Sorry if I missed it...What lifters do you plan on running?
I'm just using the stock full floating buckets. from what I understand the oil pressure ties into the buckets and provides the correct pressure between the cam and valve as you build oil pressure. if that makes sense? lol
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