Custom intercooler setup help

[Operator]

Teaser just for you Operator ;)

Why would you do that to me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Had they not messed up on shipping , I'd have mine already. Who did you order yours through?

[jayphil82]

I purchased it from ebay, the only vendor that appear when you search Treadstone TR6. Easy transaction and fast shipping.

[Operator]

Got mine from maperformance.com as it was free shipping, and cheaper than the treadstone site.

[Coderedpl]

So you got both the core and the piping as one kit?

[jayphil82]

So you got both the core and the piping as one kit?

Nope, I purchased both the piping and the IC from ebay but from different vendors. I contacted one CX Racing vendor and proposed him 400$ shipped for the IC piping kit (Basically the CX Racing IC Kit for Audi 2.0t you find on ebay excluding the intercooker itself).

225$ for the TR6 IC + 400$ CX Racing piping = 625$ including shipping for the whole kit. Just need to modify the bracket provided in the kit or make new bracket and I am all done.

For 75$ more than the complete CX Racing kit (when we consider shipping) and the quality you got with the TR6 core you can't go wrong.
The TR6 core is bigger and at least twice the density of the CX IC for best cooling.

[greensto]

$400 for just piping? Really? And how do the brackets need to be modified?

[jayphil82]

$400 for just piping? Really? And how do the brackets need to be modified?

Did you know that in the CX racing piping kit the IC it-self is only worth 125$ (just take a look on the website) and it is the piping that cost the most because it is designed for the 2.0t with quality pipes/silicone couplers and the IC is generic/universal. ATP piping kit which does not include the pipe that connect to the turbo outlet and the pipe that connect to engine intake manifold cost 400$. Take universal piping kit ( with quality pipes that can be welded) get them welded, add quality silicone coupler... and it will cost you around 400$ trust me.

The connector position on the CX racing and Treadstone is not the same. Treadstone IC is also longer... You will need to bend the provided bracket if long enough or make new ones.

[greensto]

You might want to check out a place like this if you are thinking custom piping too.
http://www.siliconeintakes.com/inter...oses-index.php

Wondering if we can make the intercooler piping less than $400 this way too now...

[greensto]

The connector position on the CX racing and Treadstone is not the same. Treadstone IC is also longer... You will need to bend the provided bracket if long enough or make new ones.

Sounds like a DIY you should post for those looking into this to verify correct fitment. Or where to purchase correct-size brackets :)

[jayphil82]

Sounds like a DIY you should post for those looking into this to verify correct fitment. Or where to purchase correct-size brackets :)

I will try to take mesurement of the brackets once fabricated, the problem is that I will probably get the kit installed by my mechanics and I do not know if I will be with him to do the installation or not.

Yes you can try to do a piping your self but try to avoid having to many couplers. I other word you need to weld the whole thing together. Some piping kit are too thin and painted which make it difficult to welded properly. You will see that quality piping thick enough to weld and quality 4 ply silicone coupler for high pressure are not cheap at all.

Maybe around 100$ can be saved if you shop enough and do everything your self.

[jayphil82]

Today I did an other test and it was 57 degree F and sunny. At cruizing speed I have constant 70 F IAT. I did spirit driving and few 3rd gear pulls and the most I reached was 88 F. I am only able to reach about 9 psi at red line(6800 rpm) though...
For now considering the my low boost levels (max 18psi, average 13psi and 9 at red line) it is imposible to really heat soak the stock side mounts when only 57F outside.

I will do other testing when the temp reach atleast 70 F.

[Operator]

Figured, I'd post up a few pics to this thread. Jayphil you have an ETA on when your install is going to happen? I venture, you'll have an easier/cleaner install.

[jayphil82]

Figured, I'd post up a few pics to this thread. Jayphil you have an ETA on when your install is going to happen? I venture, you'll have an easier/cleaner install.

I see that you installed it the oposite site I was planing to do it. Is it because it was not clearing your fog?

I have been busy the past few weeks and I not had time to take care of this. I will probably order an exhaust system and get everything installed at the same time. It will probably happen mid-june.

[Operator]

Yeh, I had issues clearing my fogs. But after tightening up a few spots this past weekend, I should be gtg.

[Jonte]

Yeh, I had issues clearing my fogs. But after tightening up a few spots this past weekend, I should be gtg.

Hello.

Any pics with front mounted?


//Jonas

[Operator]

Hello.

Any pics with front mounted?


//Jonas

I can try to get another one.

[Jonte]

I can try to get another one.

Hi.

Nice

Now I want one myself


/Jonas

[jayphil82]

I can try to get another one.

Nice, I like how the end tank are not visible and how it covers the complete lower section! Can't wait to install mine and VAG COM the IAT to see how it perform.

[sleeper]

Can you post a close up of the fins Operator? I wonder if stock and k04 turbo s really notice a difference between a cheaper core and say a precision/garret core.

sidenote: If anyone in here wants to sell a stock driverside intercooler i need one for the wrecked B7 A4 i just bought. 801 867 9629

[Operator]

Don't have my car right now, but I have the same one phil posted about on page 1. And I'd say this core is on the same level as a precision/garrett core, for a little less. But give me a few days and I'll try to get more pics up.

[jayphil82]

Updated stock log.
Today it was 88 outside and the humidity was really high, it as a good time for me to do a last log before I get the IC installed next week.
I definitely get requested PSI and A/R requested by my chipped ECU which is good news even if the psi are low. We can also see that the stock IC peaked at 36 F difference from the outside temp. Last time I tested it I reached around 34F peak difference but the outside temp was much lower.

To sum up the stock IC setup is not so bad for my modification but still get a peak 36F variance from outside temp. At cruizing speed I had between 5-10F difference with the outside temp.

[Operator]

What do you use to run your logs?!? And hurry up with the install!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[solaris10]

I just went with the ATP kit, we dont get very high temps here in the UK so I figured the ATP FMIC would be suitable. I went for the black coloured couplers as I didn't want the intercooler to be visible behind my grille, however I though I might as well go all the way so I ended up getting it anodised in black for the complete stelth look.

[jayphil82]

What do you use to run your logs?!? And hurry up with the install!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ross-Tech USB HEX+CAN Vag Com with their software. Than I play in Excel... Yea I no I need to hurry for the install!

I will post the same kind of log once installed am I sure you want to see the results!


EDIT: By the way Solaris your Anodized ATP kit looks good. It should perform good enough for you needs.

[greensto]

The connector position on the CX racing and Treadstone is not the same. Treadstone IC is also longer... You will need to bend the provided bracket if long enough or make new ones.

Can you circle a picture of the bracket you speak of? I am going to be ordering my core next week. Treadstone TR6 here I come in Florida's weather!

[greensto]

^^^Bump

[Operator]

Since were bumping:

[greensto]

Is it just me or is it starting to look a little busy in the front with the license plate, cupra lip, and hoses? I think it would cleaner if you subtract the license plate and add the audi rings, but it's your car of course :)

[jayphil82]

Operator, thanks for the updated pictures! I will have by OBX cat-back and Treadstone IC with Cx piping installed tomorrow. I will take some picture during the weekend too!

[Operator]

Is it just me or is it starting to look a little busy in the front with the license plate, cupra lip, and hoses? I think it would cleaner if you subtract the license plate and add the audi rings, but it's your car of course :)

I think it's just the close up photo...... And the rings have already been added, this is just an older picture. These photos were taken zoomed in, I think if you were to view it in person, you may have a different opinion.

And jayphil, I'm really looking forward to your install and logs!!!

[greensto]

Operator, thanks for the updated pictures! I will have by OBX cat-back and Treadstone IC with Cx piping installed tomorrow. I will take some picture during the weekend too!

Sweetness! I will be doing the same setup VERY shortly.

[golfvdude]

Just when I thought I was going with a kit, I see this.....oh well! Better now than later! Great insight and responses. The heat is really beating down in my area. Will order these soon when I get my cam changed out.

[jayphil82]

I think it's just the close up photo...... And the rings have already been added, this is just an older picture. These photos were taken zoomed in, I think if you were to view it in person, you may have a different opinion.

And jayphil, I'm really looking forward to your install and logs!!!

I am sure it looks great in person! Finally I went to see my mechanics and he is not sure he want to touch this but he will refer me to someone else... In other word tomorrow I will have my OBX exhaust and snub mount installed but I am not sure I will be able to have the IC installed for the weekend grrrrrr...

Anyway it should be soon and I will be fast to post logs after the install. I am going out for vacation on Friday the 24th so I hope everything is installed by than.

I am sure it will outperform the stock IC by far in therm of heat but I am wondering if my APR chip with benefit from the increase in flow to give me 1-2 more psi... or the chip will just adapt and let my small K03 work less hard.

[Operator]

Status update.

[jayphil82]

Sorry I only had my exhaust installed which I am pretty happy with by the way, it already started to break in and sound better. The good news is that the IC install will take place next Tuesday.

Have you noticed a change in sound after your IC install?
I will keep you posted!

[Operator]

Sorry I only had my exhaust installed which I am pretty happy with by the way, it already started to break in and sound better. The good news is that the IC install will take place next Tuesday.

Have you noticed a change in sound after your IC install?
I will keep you posted!

I've changed so many things at once, it's hard to attribute differences to one thing. The FMIC went on at pretty much the same time as my w/m, and custom CAI, followed closely by NGK coppers. Oddly enough it seems as if my boost has gone down...... But I think that may have more to do with my CAI than the IC. I think I was peaking around 21-22 now it seems like 19-20. But I'm going on a canyon cruise soon, so that'll give me a chance to figure things out. Looking forward to your install updates (with vids!!!!).

[jayphil82]

I've changed so many things at once, it's hard to attribute differences to one thing. The FMIC went on at pretty much the same time as my w/m, and custom CAI, followed closely by NGK coppers. Oddly enough it seems as if my boost has gone down...... But I think that may have more to do with my CAI than the IC. I think I was peaking around 21-22 now it seems like 19-20. But I'm going on a canyon cruise soon, so that'll give me a chance to figure things out. Looking forward to your install updates (with vids!!!!).

Oh with vids in top of that ;)
I will first take pictures / VAG COM loggings so see how it perform and affect heat and boost but when I am back from vacation I will try to take vids (even if I am not well equiped, I only got a Panasonic TZ5 point and shoot...). I would be the first time I vid my car / post a video on youtube...

Sorry for the long wait...

[RAudiB7A4]

You guys both on APR software jayphil and operator? Seems like your boost is a little low. Cuz I'm APR stage 2 and I peak 22-24 psi and hold 19-20psi on the regular. No upgraded hpfp. I was peaking 19-20psi and holding 16-18psi during the winter though. But now that it's warmer out my boost has gone up. I don't have an upgraded ic yet.

[Operator]

I'm APR stage II, not sure if driving at 5,000-6,000ft daily has much to do with it. But like I said, I'll have a better idea, after today.

[drumnjuny]

I'm APR stage II, not sure if driving at 5,000-6,000ft daily has much to do with it. But like I said, I'll have a better idea, after today.

how do your boost levels compare to before you put the fmic in there?
and the altitude sucks here... at sea level our cars are way more fun