(slimmj0ker's) - HTA3582R Big Turbo Build

[slimmj0k3r]

Decided to make my own thread, Many people may have followed previous threads:

DW Garage HTA Build

Another B7 A4 Pushing the Envelope

Lets leave the politics out of this thread and get down to the business. 56k grab a kit-kat

Specs On the Car: (Updated 2/2013)
HTA 3076R .63 AR
Tial 38mm v-band wastegate
Pagparts cast stainless steel v-band manifold
Mahle 83mm 9:1 pistons with steel pins
Brute 144mmx20mm H-beam rods
Coated rod bearings
Ferrera 1mm oversize intake and exhaust valves
Fereara titanium retainers
Ferrera valve springs
ARP main studs
ARP head bolts
ARP crank bolt
ARP flywheel bolts
Fluidampr pulley
ASP Motor Mounts
INA Engineering intake manifold
APR High Pressure Fuel Pump
RS4 injectors
HPFP 155bar Performance Rail Valve
Custom 3” Downpipe
Custom cat-back exhaust
Clutchmasters FX400 ceramic 6 puck
Clutchmasters billet steel flywheel
JHM Short Shifter
JHM Linkage Upgrade
Garrett 900HP Core
Devils Own Water/Meth
BSH Race Catch Can


Eye Candy (In No particular order):
























Glad to say that I've actually driven the car these past two days, to break the motor in and clutch, and I can say it feels amazingly stronger. I was not able to get into boost since we're running a base file and we had to just take it easy on the clutch but around town the car is simply great. Currently its back in the shop to re-torque the head bolts and start the tuning. Originally I had no intention to run water/meth but with my upcoming move to Arizona, no 93 in AZ, and scorching summers I decided that running meth would actually be beneficial..... My massive intercooler should help also lol

Hopefully next week we will have some actual numbers. Aiming to break 400whp but only time will tell. Hope this will be some motivation for some more b7ers to start going BT....we need more BT threads and less "what rims/what mod should I get/do".

Made a little video of a cold start.... a bit rough but things will be ironed out within the final tune. Enjoy.



cheers.

[Staz]

thats is awesome, holy crap at the size of that front mount

and lol @ camera falling

[Gil2.0T]

Very nice. Cant wait for some videos once that thing is tuned. Props

[viceprp]

You'll easily break that 400whp mark. I know on my little b5 and 1.8 displacement. I've seen 427whp on w/m on only a GT3076. A 2.0 GT35 on meth with conservative tune should easily see 430+whp. Look forward to the numbers! GLWD

[viziers]

Hoping to have mine dynoed in a couple weeks....

[vivithemage]

sweeeeeeeeet

[eastwick897]

YESSSSS finally the cat is out of the hat. Saw this monster in person yesterday as slim drove to my house. It's a beast!

[viperdsa]

Awesome. It's interesting how different piston manufactures go about getting the desired c/r. I have a set of JE 9.5:1 and they have no visible dish to them like your CP's do.

[slimmj0k3r]

Hoping to have mine dynoed in a couple weeks....

Sweet keep us posted. Eastwick should be getting his car back this weekend or monday with results and I'm expecting mine about wednsday of next week.

We will have some footage of everything. Going to put together a nice video with results when everything is done, eastwick has a new dslr to test out haha

[B7Daily]

I would like to see the numbers and hear about how the maintenance is

[jimrobbington]

Thats sick slim. I didn't even know you were doing a build. How long did your build take? If they are getting 400 whp on that other thread with no internals or meth, with the right tune you should be able to surpass that by quite a bit, I would think. No lpf issues?

[eastwick897]

I would like to see the numbers and hear about how the maintenance is

What do you mean by maintenance? It's similar to what you do on every other FSI. Minus the intake valves being caked up.

[trevor51590]

pure $3x

[slimmj0k3r]

Thats sick slim. I didn't even know you were doing a build. How long did your build take? If they are getting 400 whp on that other thread with no internals or meth, with the right tune you should be able to surpass that by quite a bit, I would think. No lpf issues?

We started doing research back in 2008 before we actually began anything, i'd say we began work around april 2009. I had to learn all about the FSI motor and kept this 200 page book with me at all times lol, I still have it actually. Fast forward almost 2 years later and a lot of unplanned parts/circumstances, we're finally close to what I wanted to achieve. Its an ultimate sleeper.

LPFP is not the issue at this point, I feel that we're going to hit our limit at the RS4 injectors.

I feel that we'd be able to break 400whp without the meth, Only reason i'm running the kit is because 93oct is not available in arizona and it gets HOT...heatsoak ftl.

[viziers]

Ut oh I think I jizzed on the screen looking at the pics again!

[vdubjetta02]

redonkulous

[nnnick]

Hope the tune goes well, it seems everyone that goes with a custom big turbo setup can never get it tuned worth a damn. Excited to see this beast out in AZ!

[crazytex21]

is it weird that my pants are a little tight right now?

[ryanworth]

Looks amazing dude! I love how you shaved the crash bar to fit the IC. And that turbo is a very stealthy install.

[dougyfresh]

Very Clean.

I can't wait for a ride.

[viziers]

Hope the tune goes well, it seems everyone that goes with a custom big turbo setup can never get it tuned worth a damn. Excited to see this beast out in AZ!

Thats not true Vast's BT tune is working great as they just dynoed their B7 at 400WHP and mine is going to be dynoed hopefully in the next few weeks, fingers crossed I can near what they put down then get my ass up there for the fine tuning.......

[viceprp]

The RS4 injectors are 480cc, correct? I would think you would make them out fairly quick. Why not upgrade to a larger injector?

[slimmj0k3r]

The RS4 injectors are 480cc, correct? I would think you would make them out fairly quick. Why not upgrade to a larger injector?

There is simply nothing else right now. We've explored MANY options. The only alternative will run about $4000 for a set and from what I've been hearing they're not all that much better, I only know of 1 car running them.
We've even tried modifying the stock injectors

Once more people start going bt we hope to see something eventually I hope, right now the market really isn't there IMO

[nnnick]

Thats not true Vast's BT tune is working great as they just dynoed their B7 at 400WHP and mine is going to be dynoed hopefully in the next few weeks, fingers crossed I can near what they put down then get my ass up there for the fine tuning.......

Guess I should have said everyone I know out in Arizona that has had a BT + custom tune. No one out here really does VAST tunes, so that might explain it

[viceprp]

There is simply nothing else right now. We've explored MANY options. The only alternative will run about $4000 for a set and from what I've been hearing they're not all that much better, I only know of 1 car running them.
We've even tried modifying the stock injectors

Once more people start going bt we hope to see something eventually I hope, right now the market really isn't there IMO

Didn't realize the market was that small for the B7 plateform. I'm very familiar with the B5/B6 and starting to look into the B7 a bit more (to be well rounded in my thirst for knowledge). I hope you get all things squared away and break that 400whp marker. The inj will be a big factor.

[projectb7]

Damn... looking good! I want to see some dyno nummers..

[viziers]

Guess I should have said everyone I know out in Arizona that has had a BT + custom tune. No one out here really does VAST tunes, so that might explain it

Haha, yes that deffinately would explain a bit...

[slimmj0k3r]

Guess I should have said everyone I know out in Arizona that has had a BT + custom tune. No one out here really does VAST tunes, so that might explain it

I haven't really heard of a solid tuning shop out in AZ. Evoms does rock solid work on the porsche but idk about they're capabilities with the audi platform (not bashing them).

[eastwick897]

The RS4 injectors are 480cc, correct? I would think you would make them out fairly quick. Why not upgrade to a larger injector?

They are 480cc which totally sucks for a turbo this size. We have looked into other FSI platforms,but the other injector options aren't any better. There are a few companies out there "claiming" they are working on injector solutions, but i'll believe it when I see it. These engines have great potential and it seems like the only thing figured out right now is an injector solution.

[viceprp]

They are 480cc which totally sucks for a turbo this size. We have looked into other FSI platforms,but the other injector options aren't any better. There are a few companies out there "claiming" they are working on injector solutions, but i'll believe it when I see it. These engines have great potential and it seems like the only thing figured out right now is an injector solution.

I just don't see why the B7 platform doesn't have larger injectors yet. The car has been out for 5+ years and from day one, tuners should have known the market will BOOMIG for any Turbo Charged Audi. For an HTA35, I wouldn't go any smaller than an 830cc inj for my platform. What kind of numbers have you seen with your setup? Just hard to imagine a turbo setup with improper fueling. Really is a shame.

[slimmj0k3r]

I just don't see why the B7 platform doesn't have larger injectors yet. The car has been out for 5+ years and from day one, tuners should have known the market will BOOMIG for any Turbo Charged Audi. For an HTA35, I wouldn't go any smaller than an 830cc inj for my platform. What kind of numbers have you seen with your setup? Just hard to imagine a turbo setup with improper fueling. Really is a shame.

Forgot to mention that the FSI is also a pain in the arse.

[viceprp]

Forgot to mention that the FSI is also a pain in the arse.

Yeah, I saw the price tag on the HFFP. I couldn't imagine spending that kind of money on JUST a chip, but BAT would make it worth it.

[bartles]

There is simply nothing else right now. We've explored MANY options. The only alternative will run about $4000 for a set and from what I've been hearing they're not all that much better, I only know of 1 car running them.
We've even tried modifying the stock injectors

Once more people start going bt we hope to see something eventually I hope, right now the market really isn't there IMO

Why not run a 5th injector set up? I believe Dimitris is

[eastwick897]

Why not run a 5th injector set up? I believe Dimitris is

It isn't as simple as just adding a 5th injector. I spoke with 034 about it, and they said that for a car that would be daily driven the car just won't run smoothly. People always think that by just adding things it solves problems. Ideally, you want your car to be smooth out of boost and a pleasure to drive. 034 isn't the only tuner who told me the car would run rough, Mark at Autospeed also said the same thing. There are rumors going around on Vortex that there is a company designing some higher flowing injectors along with a fuel rail. I would be happy with just some injectors for now.

[eastwick897]

I just don't see why the B7 platform doesn't have larger injectors yet. The car has been out for 5+ years and from day one, tuners should have known the market will BOOMIG for any Turbo Charged Audi. For an HTA35, I wouldn't go any smaller than an 830cc inj for my platform. What kind of numbers have you seen with your setup? Just hard to imagine a turbo setup with improper fueling. Really is a shame.

I should have a dyno by the beginning of this week. I am also surprised no company has looked into developing some higher flowing injectors with the number of BT GTI's out there.

[slimmj0k3r]

just some updates. Car is finally on the dyno!

Since I will be running 91 octane in AZ we've decided to tune the car on 87 Pump + 87 pump w/meth since the 91 here and the 91 in az are in no way comparable. Mark has tuned cars on 91 octane out west and he knows exactly what its capable of.

Dyno results by weeks end.

[slimmj0k3r]

update, was at the shop today. We've decided to up the octane to 91 as 87 has proven to be pretty shitty. Hopefully the car will be ready on friday.


Dyno run video, only revving up to 5k

[eastwick897]

87 FML!

[dougyfresh]

making progress.. car is right in-line with eastwick's car right now in terms of power and performance. on 93oct.

[slimmj0k3r]

93 ftw!!! I'm going to have to iron out the tune on AZ 91 pump. Car won't be performing at 100% since we're running this shitty 89 but oh well, Not going to post dyno numbers until I get over to AZ and fix the tune.