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    Quote Originally Posted by theKB View Post
    ALSO there is video from in the car for two runs... when he gets to editing those runs into his webisode of the track I will post it up (i didn't drive those two runs however)
    Awesome. If the vids include the dash we can determine whether your DSG short-shifted.

    x2 on the LC - it's very finnicky. I've had my problems w/ it as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theKB View Post
    When I initially ran it just felt slow after the 60 ft... I can't remember if it short shifted to be honest but it just felt like it fell flat on its face when you were pushing towards the 100mph mark...

    Even though the MPH never really changed that much I noticed as it got cooler the times got slightly faster... my last run of the night I effed up the launch and just ran from a dig and the 60 ft time suffered to the tune of .4 seconds... still ran a 13.7 however... 9 seconds is about the time it took to reset the LC... on one run i actually noticed that when i staged 1st against my friend with a VR-T... he took his time staging knowing the LC can be finicky. That time however it worked properly right away and as the tree went green, the car started to pull rpm and completely bogged on the line... I am familiar with trying to get the LC sequence down properly having had a MK5...

    and Primetime... thanks for the offer but it isn't necessarily at all... I would actually like to get out more it's just that our track is 100km away and its tough to leave work early to battle rush hour and make it to the track...

    ALSO there is video from in the car for two runs... when he gets to editing those runs into his webisode of the track I will post it up (i didn't drive those two runs however)
    Yeah no clue on LC... I would like to play with an 11 too see how it works... Your just not making the mph you shoud and too your point falling hard on the top half of the track... Your 1/8 trap is off by 3-4mph Do you have a vagcom cable? I would love to see you log the runs...

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    prime...are the wheels faster? Its been awhile, any runs with them yet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by L0U View Post
    prime...are the wheels faster? Its been awhile, any runs with them yet?
    Lou, I honestly haven't went since I have gotten them... rain, work, and events(72 and older only cars and bikes only) that I wasn't permitted to run in... Was thinking about going Wed. after I leave the office but it is supposed to be mid 90's here! Sat. will be in the 70's so I may go then... Also, trying to get some things setup to get my exhaust situation taken care of... No doubt a 11lbs per wheel loss will net me something...

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    Quote Originally Posted by primetime View Post
    Lou, I honestly haven't went since I have gotten them... rain, work, and events(72 and older only cars and bikes only) that I wasn't permitted to run in... Was thinking about going Wed. after I leave the office but it is supposed to be mid 90's here! Sat. will be in the 70's so I may go then... Also, trying to get some things setup to get my exhaust situation taken care of... No doubt a 11lbs per wheel loss will net me something...
    Absolutely! I expect it to be a meaningful difference.

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    Going racing tonight. I will update this thread when I get home with my times. Anyone who is in the NorCal area come to Infineon tonight!
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    Quote Originally Posted by S4FTW12 View Post
    Going racing tonight. I will update this thread when I get home with my times. Anyone who is in the NorCal area come to Infineon tonight!
    Great! Looking forward to your results. Will you be able to take video?
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    Quote Originally Posted by clochner View Post
    Great! Looking forward to your results. Will you be able to take video?
    I will have my friend use my iPhone. Not the best, but it will do :)
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    Quote Originally Posted by primetime View Post
    Yeah no clue on LC... I would like to play with an 11 too see how it works... Your just not making the mph you shoud and too your point falling hard on the top half of the track... Your 1/8 trap is off by 3-4mph Do you have a vagcom cable? I would love to see you log the runs...
    I am hitting Waterfest in July because I am going to be in the area for a family bday get together.. Going too grab the APR tune and some other goodies, will run straight to the track when I am back in Toronto and use all that 2010 S4 LC practice I have to see what type of 1/4 I get.. But I do wish we had the same LC as the 11's :( oh well. Ahhh cant wait
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    Went to the track tonight. I'm pissed. I couldn't launch the damn thing to save my life. How do you guys launch the MTs? Let's just say it's a miracle I was even in the 13s :( And I do know how to race, been doing it for over 10 years, but this car is giving me a hard time....
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    Quote Originally Posted by theKB View Post
    Here is the best run from last friday night...

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    Quote Originally Posted by S4FTW12 View Post
    Went to the track tonight. I'm pissed. I couldn't launch the damn thing to save my life. How do you guys launch the MTs? Let's just say it's a miracle I was even in the 13s :( And I do know how to race, been doing it for over 10 years, but this car is giving me a hard time....
    Sorry, can't help you there on this car... I have experience on other AWD stick cars but have only driven a B8 stick car for a few hours and didn't try to cut any 60's! LOL I would PM S|Quattro|4 or sobz as they both have manuals and have run pretty good times... How did you launch? I believe you can rev to 3500-4000rpm and hold it there I would then probably side step the clutch vs dumping it... again this is just my thoughts and someone with real experience could tell you better... You could also hit up Richib86 as he has a manual car as well... What track and how were the conditions? Don't worry about the times just gives you something to shoot for the next time out and improve on... Keep us posted... later ron

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    Quote Originally Posted by S4FTW12 View Post
    Went to the track tonight. I'm pissed. I couldn't launch the damn thing to save my life. How do you guys launch the MTs? Let's just say it's a miracle I was even in the 13s :( And I do know how to race, been doing it for over 10 years, but this car is giving me a hard time....
    Seems to be a streak of bad news lately at the strip for our cars. How many passes did you make? Did you turn off ESP/ASR?

    I'm hopefully heading back to the track on Saturday - will post times asap if I make it out there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clochner View Post
    Seems to be a streak of bad news lately at the strip for our cars. How many passes did you make? Did you turn off ESP/ASR?

    I'm hopefully heading back to the track on Saturday - will post times asap if I make it out there.
    I only got to make two passes because I got there late. One time trial and then we went into elimination rounds, and of course I lost. And yes, I turned ESP off. My MPH was good, 105. I'm going to try and make it out in the next week and get a lot better. I'm mad at the car, lol. As of right now, I miss my Jeep SRT8.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vogz View Post
    Your car is obviously mad at you because you are a canucks fan.
    Hahaha... I wouldn't doubt this at the moment... haha

    Quote Originally Posted by S4FTW12 View Post
    My MPH was good, 105.
    Geez... I am wondering if there is something wrong with my car... you were having a bad night with 105mph trap times... I could barely break 100mph...
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    Quote Originally Posted by S4FTW12 View Post
    I only got to make two passes because I got there late. One time trial and then we went into elimination rounds, and of course I lost. And yes, I turned ESP off. My MPH was good, 105. I'm going to try and make it out in the next week and get a lot better. I'm mad at the car, lol. As of right now, I miss my Jeep SRT8.
    Hey, would definitely like to know conditions and how you launched the car...there are a lot of factors when launching the MT S4...:)
    With proper launch you should be at high 12's low 13's
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    I changed up the "notes" section... I don't know if it will be easier to read this way or not but I'm open to suggestions. I also realize I just provided myself with a butt load more work every time I add a new time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arin@APR View Post
    I changed up the "notes" section... I don't know if it will be easier to read this way or not but I'm open to suggestions. I also realize I just provided myself with a butt load more work every time I add a new time.
    We appreciate it Arin! I should hit the strip Wed. Hopefully, the wheels will make up for the cats! Conditions are supposed to be good but we are 5 days out...

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    Quote Originally Posted by clochner View Post
    Seems to be a streak of bad news lately at the strip for our cars. How many passes did you make? Did you turn off ESP/ASR?

    I'm hopefully heading back to the track on Saturday - will post times asap if I make it out there.
    Just make sure you turn off the ASR! The Anti Slip. The ESP is just the Electronic Stability such as around corners and under/over steer. You can turn off the ASR and leave the ESP on - just push the button quickly and it's off - you have to hold down the button for 3 seconds to turn off the ESP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OmaHahn View Post
    Just make sure you turn off the ASR! The Anti Slip. The ESP is just the Electronic Stability such as around corners and under/over steer. You can turn off the ASR and leave the ESP on - just push the button quickly and it's off - you have to hold down the button for 3 seconds to turn off the ESP.
    Yes. I am aware of this and have always turned both off when making my passes (w/ the exception of once when I forgot).
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    Quote Originally Posted by OmaHahn View Post
    Just make sure you turn off the ASR! The Anti Slip. The ESP is just the Electronic Stability such as around corners and under/over steer. You can turn off the ASR and leave the ESP on - just push the button quickly and it's off - you have to hold down the button for 3 seconds to turn off the ESP.
    Yes. I am aware of this and have always turned both off when making my passes (w/ the exception of once when I forgot).
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    Quote Originally Posted by clochner View Post
    Yes. I am aware of this and have always turned both off when making my passes (w/ the exception of once when I forgot).
    My bad! You were asking the other person if they turn it off - I think I can read! Anyway, just an FYI for anyone else then.
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    Here are some details of my night.

    LAST - 2011/06/15 - 14.055 @ 100.89 MPH - 2.144 - 8772 - DSG - Stock - 91 - forza1976 http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3264/...79b54c73_b.jpg


    5 runs and the best came on the last run of course as the temps were dropping. I can't believe how heavy this car is and still manages some respectible times at my altitude.

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    DA: A whopping 8772' above sea level!!!

    Some might see this as a damn slow run but at this altitude we get killed so I'm actually shocked. I weighed the car with me in and 3/8 of a tank of fuel and it came to 4160lbs. (91 octane run)

    With a bit cooler temp and a less kick in the ass DA I can get this car to run in the 13's stock.

    I have no modifications.

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    Quote Originally Posted by forza1976 View Post
    Here are some details of my night.

    LAST - 2011/06/15 - 14.055 @ 100.89 MPH - 2.144 - 8772 - DSG - Stock - 91 - forza1976 http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3264/...79b54c73_b.jpg


    5 runs and the best came on the last run of course as the temps were dropping. I can't believe how heavy this car is and still manages some respectible times at my altitude.

    A few facts:
    Bandimere Speedway (Denver CO) phsical altitude 5800'
    Temp: 79F
    Baro: 29.66
    Humidity: 21%
    DA: A whopping 8772' above sea level!!!

    Some might see this as a damn slow run but at this altitude we get killed so I'm actually shocked. I weighed the car with me in and 3/8 of a tank of fuel and it came to 4160lbs. (91 octane run)

    With a bit cooler temp and a less kick in the ass DA I can get this car to run in the 13's stock.

    I have no modifications.

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    Nice, I'm currently last place (and likely to stay there)... Pretty funny, Bandimere is a heartbreaker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clochner View Post
    Awesome. If the vids include the dash we can determine whether your DSG short-shifted.

    x2 on the LC - it's very finnicky. I've had my problems w/ it as well.
    from the looks of it the car was shifting at around ~6800 rpm so not sure if that short shifted?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vogz View Post
    Your car is obviously mad at you because you are a canucks fan.
    Bwwahhhh... that sir is damn funny...probably only to us hawks fans but nonetheless i laughed

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZONAWILDCATS4 View Post
    Bwwahhhh... that sir is damn funny...probably only to us hawks fans but nonetheless i laughed
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZONAWILDCATS4 View Post
    Bwwahhhh... that sir is damn funny...probably only to us hawks fans but nonetheless i laughed
    i would make some sort of snappy comeback but we didn't win the cup... hey at least we didn't go out in the first round ;-)
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    Ok, ASM777 and I ran at California Speedway today and had some fun. I was able to get 3 runs in and he was able to get 4.

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    15 - 2011/07/16 - 13.676 @ 102.84 - 2.137 - DSG - Stock - 91 - K1speeder - Time slips (run 2)

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    Thanks K1speeder for lending me a helmet! First time out to the drap strip and a fun experience.

    Was a bit disappointed with the times on the first 3 runs since I have the APR 91 tune but feel a bit better after my final and fourth run (though I still need to improve my R/T quite a bit!) =)

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    DA = So, I tried to calculate DA myself searching for info on the internet and came up with 3189 (using elevation 1100, temp 82.4, pressure 29.78 and humidity 35). Car thermostat showed temp of 86-88 though so not sure how accurate theweathernetwork.com is.

    Anyway, using dragtimes.com's calculator, I get the following:
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    Extensively Modified Naturally Aspirated Engines
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    Extensively Modified Supercharged and Turbocharged Engines
    12.956 @ 107.439 MPH

    With DA of 3189
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    12.754 @ 109.268 MPH
    Extensively Modified Naturally Aspirated Engines
    12.902 @ 108.001 MPH
    Extensively Modified Supercharged and Turbocharged Engines
    13.062 @ 106.6 MPH

    Would appreciate if someone could validate the DA and let me know what my corrected time would be?

    Anyway, was just reading this thread about setting Engine/Throttle to "Auto" to get better times... Will try different settings next time I can make it out. Oh yeah, one last thing I did differently on the last run was to drive around the wet spot where other cars were doing burnouts. Maybe not having wet tires helped my last run?

    One quick thought. Drag racing in our cars is probably not as fun as for those with other cars because the S4 so effortlessly performs and completes the 1/4 mile. I bet it's more of an adrenaline rush when you're driving a car that actually feels like it's going 100 mph at 100 mph instead of feeling like we're just cruising along at 60 mph when we're actually crossing the 1/4 mile mark at over 100 mph! It'd probably be more exhilarating to do a 1/2 mile race since we'd get to see our speedometer cross the vertical halfway mark (120mph)!

    Lastly, in addition to being taxed nearly 10% (and over in some areas) here in CA, we can only get 91 gas so we're unlikely to be able to compete with the times of those in more fortunate states where 92/93 is available (unless we get 100 race gas)... =/
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    Hamilton Ontario

    AutoClubDragway is the California Dragway on dragtimes. DA was around 3000 for both of you (3PM and 5pm both around the same)

    http://www.dragtimes.com/da-density-...time=2:53%20PM

    http://www.dragtimes.com/da-density-...time=4:53%20PM

    the stock S4 'corrected' time is 13.4@104 and the 91 tuned car corrected time is 13.0 @ 106 (click)

    ignore corrected times anyway....they're a guess at best, so just go back when it's cooler out.

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    Senior Member Four Rings Kay15's Avatar
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    Audi A6
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    Norway

    I posted a huge review on the track my car DSG with front resonators removed the small ones and an X pipe in place everything else stock on half tank my best time was 13.098. I think if I removed the tire and had a little less gas I could of hit 12.9 it was also 36 degrees celcius and 45% humididty. 2011 DSG

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    Registered Member One Ring
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    Awesome times with a fairly stock S4 Kavan

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    Stage 2 Banner Advertiser Four Rings Arin@APR's Avatar
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    Updated. Please check.
    GoAPR | Facebook | YouTube
    Phone: (800) 680-7921 Local Phone: +1 (334) 502-5181 Fax: +1 (334) 502-5180
    Address: APR LLC, 4800 US HWY 280 West, Opelika, AL 36801
    The bitterness of poor quality is remembered long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.

  37. #397
    Senior Member Three Rings
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arin@APR View Post
    Updated. Please check.
    Thanks for posting my time Arin but my 60' time was 1.885 not 1.775. By the way the date was July 27th.
    Thanks.

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    Veteran Member Four Rings t0mt0m's Avatar
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    Nothern Va

    Fail – 2011/7/31-13.044 @107.40 – 1.946 -2114 – not sure – 6mt – APR 93 – 93 – t0mt0m – time slip attached

    @MIR INT RACEWAY
    No SD / No ADS
    ESP/ASR off
    6MT
    4160 on scale w/driver
    3/4 tank of gas
    Full trunk w bbq supplies =p
    Strat intake, 034 hfcs , miltek resonated with downpipes, apr pully installed but not apr stage II software..therefore extra boost was not even used or tuned properly.
    INFO from dragtimes.com
    Correct your ET and MPH using the DA (Beta Testing)
    Density Altitude:
    feet above sea level
    1/4 mile ET:
    seconds
    1/4 mile trap speed:
    MPH
    Stock and Mildly Modified Naturally Aspirated Engines
    12.725 @ 110.16 MPH

    Extensively Modified Naturally Aspirated Engines
    12.842 @ 109.21 MPH

    Extensively Modified Supercharged and Turbocharged Engines
    12.929 @ 108.354 MPH


    keep in mind this is my first track experience!
    B6 A4 1.8t 5MT Quattro - Sold
    B8 S4 '10 6MT Prem+ - Sold

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    Senior Member Four Rings NWS4Guy's Avatar
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    2008 Land Rover LR2 2010 Audi S4
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    Seattle, WA

    Not bad overall, but with that 60' time, you likely need to stage as shallow as possible and work on launch tecniques.
    Like a surgeon with a scalpel, my S4 is a precision instrument, with which I carve and dissect my way through traffic.

    2010 S4 Prem+, Quartz Gray, S-tronic, Sport Diff, B&O, Nav, Gray Birch
    StopTech ST-60 BBK - Stratmosphere intake - APR Stage 2 w/pulley + exhaust

    **** Have USB HEX-CAN Vag-Com cable if you need someone local to mod you ****

    My Fuelly mileage

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    Active Member Two Rings
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    ny

    Quote Originally Posted by NWS4Guy View Post
    Not bad overall, but with that 60' time, you likely need to stage as shallow as possible and work on launch tecniques.
    1.9x isn't terrible. nws4 when you going to run your car? and WTF is primetime?

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