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    BFI - Motor Mounts - Polyurethane solutions for your Audi A3

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    We are proud to offer our complete line of performance motor mounts for all 2.0T applications. Our line of Full Poly mounts is unlike any other poly options available. They are produced from a two part liquid cast system in several durometers. This results in both a more uniform product as well as a more durable one..

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    BFI - Torque Arm Insert (Available for both FSI and TSI - 09+)



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    Our pendulum mount torque arm insert fills the voids in the stock rubber bushing, making what was a soft rubber bushing with voids into what behaves like a solid mount. With the insert installed, you will notice that throttle response will feel better and your shifts will feel more crisp and defined, especially on manual transmission cars.

    Designed In-house, these mounts are made to be the stiffest on the market made from the highest quality (98a) durometer polyurethane. Each insert is pressure injection molded to insure a consistent hardness throughout the mount for long life even under hard driving condtions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Forest View Post
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    Great Products!!! I am on full stage 1 mounts and i love them!!!! what wheel hop?

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    Quote Originally Posted by danielescobarg View Post
    Great Products!!! I am on full stage 1 mounts and i love them!!!! what wheel hop?
    Yessss exactly, what wheel hop
    2006 Audi A3 2.0t - APR Stage 2+

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    I was wondering how your Torque Arm Insert as your company calls it or the Dogbone Mount Insert Kit as called by ECS tuning is slightly different. There seems to be bigger gaps where the two spools or clip mounts are. I have a 2006 Audi A3 2.0T and was looking into getting one perhaps. I was thinking about going with your company's kit since you guys are $5 cheaper, but I just wanted to make sure I'm getting the right part.

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    There's a slight difference in design as you have noticed but it is the correct part you're looking for.

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    just installed the dogbone mount. it's a tight fit, definitely needs lube to get it in. i got it most of the way in using some lathered up bar soap to lube it up. just tightened the bolt w/ the big washer to get the rest of it in.

    after that, took it for a drive today and it feels great. car has less "clunk" sensation when shifting gears. im not sure how else to describe it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Forest View Post
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    regarding your TSI TAI, how does it compare to APR and Neuspeed's version? i'm just concerned about vibration. i know APR has two options. one is supposed to be slightly softer than the other. i'm not sure where neuspeeds compare to APR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pjunk1 View Post
    regarding your TSI TAI, how does it compare to APR and Neuspeed's version? i'm just concerned about vibration. i know APR has two options. one is supposed to be slightly softer than the other. i'm not sure where neuspeeds compare to APR.

    THANKS
    Our torque arm insert is a harder durometer than the others on the market, but it is also a different design, with less constant contact area, so vibration differences will be minimal, and performance will be as good or better than others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Forest View Post
    Our torque arm insert is a harder durometer than the others on the market, but it is also a different design, with less constant contact area, so vibration differences will be minimal, and performance will be as good or better than others.
    i see. i compared yours to the neuspeed version. sure enough, there is less constant contact area as you stated. hmmm...it seems if i wanted to uninstall if for whatever reason, it might easier to extract. i might have to give it a shot.

    thanks.
    '10 a3 2.0t, dsg, prem plus, ice silver, koni co's, vmr v708, votex sides, plate delete, 35% tint

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    i bought the stage 1 kit... Best kit ever! engine movement down, interior vibrations minmal. passengers in car never noticed. and power transfer was so much cleaner, these are necessary for these high torque cars

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    Quote Originally Posted by touchaclass View Post
    i bought the stage 1 kit... Best kit ever! engine movement down, interior vibrations minmal. passengers in car never noticed. and power transfer was so much cleaner, these are necessary for these high torque cars
    Thanks for the feedback. We really appreciate the support!

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    I know this isn't an A3, but it shares the same motor and chassis as the A3s. Cool actually video of your BFI motor mounts installed. Can't wait to order some goodies from BFI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by munkeeboi83 View Post
    I know this isn't an A3, but it shares the same motor and chassis as the A3s. Cool actually video of your BFI motor mounts installed. Can't wait to order some goodies from BFI.

    Good looking out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Forest View Post
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    You guys and gals coming to Southern Worthersee this year? If so, please make sure you have extra some torque mounts on the truck. I will be purchasing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by callmecue View Post
    You guys and gals coming to Southern Worthersee this year? If so, please make sure you have extra some torque mounts on the truck. I will be purchasing!
    We will definitely be in attendance along with everything we can carry with us!

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    too bad you dont offer for a3 3.2 engie

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnny12151 View Post
    too bad you dont offer for a3 3.2 engie
    Look under VW MKV - there is a 6 cyl option that works, or Audi TT MK2
    still no turbo - other mods here

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnny12151 View Post
    too bad you dont offer for a3 3.2 engie
    We do, we just do not have it listed since it's an uncommon inquiry. We offer fully assembled kits for the 6 cylinder that are compatible with your application which can be found here: http://yhst-1918367471896.stores.yahoo.net/enpe5.html

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    I just had my BFI dogbone mount insert installed on my 2006 Audi A3 2.0T this past weekend by Raven Motorsports down in Long Beach. I was surprised at how big the insert was when it came in the mail. It's almost looks like a soda can holder or something, but it was pretty soft and flexible. As many people have mentioned on this forum. It was a little tough to get in there and required a lot of lubrication and help with a soft mallet to whack it into place. Torqued it 74lbs and it was good to go. I did notice compared to the Neuspeed version of the dogbone mount insert, that it did not come with a little washer, but I guess that's okay. Might be getting a short shift kit of maybe the VF or BSH dog bone in the near future perhaps.

    So far, the shifts seem a lot more crisp and clean. There is a little bit less freeplay if you try to move the shifter around. For the price point, fast shipping, and good customer service, I'm pretty pleased with this purchase. Thanks for the reviews from some of you guys on AZ that influenced my decision. =)

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    Quote Originally Posted by munkeeboi83 View Post
    I just had my BFI dogbone mount insert installed on my 2006 Audi A3 2.0T this past weekend by Raven Motorsports down in Long Beach. I was surprised at how big the insert was when it came in the mail. It's almost looks like a soda can holder or something, but it was pretty soft and flexible. As many people have mentioned on this forum. It was a little tough to get in there and required a lot of lubrication and help with a soft mallet to whack it into place. Torqued it 74lbs and it was good to go. I did notice compared to the Neuspeed version of the dogbone mount insert, that it did not come with a little washer, but I guess that's okay. Might be getting a short shift kit of maybe the VF or BSH dog bone in the near future perhaps.

    So far, the shifts seem a lot more crisp and clean. There is a little bit less freeplay if you try to move the shifter around. For the price point, fast shipping, and good customer service, I'm pretty pleased with this purchase. Thanks for the reviews from some of you guys on AZ that influenced my decision. =)
    Thanks for the feedback! Happy motoring!

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    Is the 2.0T FSI TAI the same as what will fit on my MY10 S3?
    Looking at ordering but want to make sure it will fit before I order.

    Also, this is a really noob question but do i need to order 2? One for each side?
    Or does this mount in the middle and only use one?

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    All PMs returned :)

    Poli84 - I am not 100% certain which torque arm insert your S3 has, but since its a 2010 it should have the 09+ insert. If you take a picture of your mount I can tell you for sure which one you need.

    And you only need one torque arm insert per car (and one each of the other two mounts :) ).

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    Thanks Black Forest.
    Seems like the 09+ insert is the correct one according to other sources.

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    Wanna give my 2 cents. Called you guys the other day about how I thought my BFI Stage 1 engine mounts were over-torqued, causing my downpipe to separate (or something idk lol). Anyway, just wanted to say I re-torqued to your specs from your website and it's held up great so far! Awesome customer service from Matt (I think that's who I talked to) as well as him having a lot of knowledge about my problem. Even with my shitty explanation he didn't miss a beat and helped me out greatly!

    Good job, BFI!
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    Quote Originally Posted by dubguts View Post
    Wanna give my 2 cents. Called you guys the other day about how I thought my BFI Stage 1 engine mounts were over-torqued, causing my downpipe to separate (or something idk lol). Anyway, just wanted to say I re-torqued to your specs from your website and it's held up great so far! Awesome customer service from Matt (I think that's who I talked to) as well as him having a lot of knowledge about my problem. Even with my shitty explanation he didn't miss a beat and helped me out greatly!

    Good job, BFI!
    We appreciate your feedback and support!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Forest View Post
    We appreciate your feedback and support!
    Always! Too bad I don't live in NC anymore so I can't swing by :/
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    Quote Originally Posted by dubguts View Post
    Always! Too bad I don't live in NC anymore so I can't swing by :/
    Well if you ever find yourself in NC you should definitely swing through.

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    I figure you're going to do another post on the oil catch cans you guys came out with the other day. I didn't see or read that there was a drain plug on the catch can itself where you can attach a hose to drain it. Perhaps I'm missing something. Is the cylindrical knob on top a dipstick to check the level? Looks very well built and beautiful, but pricing is a wee too bit expensive compared to your competitors. =(

    http://store.blackforestindustries.c...ccacroils.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Forest View Post
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    2011 tfsi mounts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunchsacks View Post
    2011 tfsi mounts?
    Same mounts. They will fit your 2011

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Forest View Post
    Same mounts. They will fit your 2011
    good which ones do i need to buy to fully emlim wheel hop?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunchsacks View Post
    good which ones do i need to buy to fully emlim wheel hop?
    Both stages will help eliminate wheel hop.
    Stage I is designed with street cars in mind.
    Stage II is for those more concerned with performance then comfort.

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    so i bought this

    "BFI - Torque
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    that will help elim wheel hop right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunchsacks View Post
    so i bought this

    "BFI - Torque
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    that will help elim wheel hop right?
    Absolutely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Forest View Post
    Absolutely.
    awesome to hear! :) does it have to be at 76 lbs exactly to avoid damaging something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunchsacks View Post
    awesome to hear! :) does it have to be at 76 lbs exactly to avoid damaging something?
    The manufacturer specifies that you tighten the bolt to 76ft. lbs then a 1/4 turn.

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