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    Help! Turtlewax rubbing compound left marks!

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    Hi everybody,

    I didn't notice this before but recently when I was washing my car, I notice there were blotches of faint, dark stains on my car's white exterior.

    They happen to be at the spots of where there was oxidation, prior to using turtle wax's rubbing compound to remove them.

    Now it leaves a nasty mark on my white car's paint, kinda like fading acne marks.

    Any solution to get rid of the marks? I'll post up pictures later.

    Thanks.

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    for future refrence, i would always use turtle wax polishing compound first. Rubbing compunds a little rough on paint. Im not sure how to tell you to fix that though, maybe post some pics? Try waxing it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dracolnyte View Post
    Hi everybody,

    I didn't notice this before but recently when I was washing my car, I notice there were blotches of faint, dark stains on my car's white exterior.

    They happen to be at the spots of where there was oxidation, prior to using turtle wax's rubbing compound to remove them.

    Now it leaves a nasty mark on my white car's paint, kinda like fading acne marks.

    Any solution to get rid of the marks? I'll post up pictures later.

    Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peacob View Post
    After using the rubbing compound, go back and use a polishing compound afterwards.
    Right.

    Think of compound like liquid sandpaper, there are different "grits."

    If you want cut down really rough piece, you can use low grit (cutting/rubbing compound) but to have something presentable, you want to have something pretty and presentable you use high grit (polishing compound)

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    How do you already have noticeable oxidation on a B8 A4? Might wanna post this in the Detailing Forum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsDubC View Post
    How do you already have noticeable oxidation on a B8 A4? Might wanna post this in the Detailing Forum.
    Ditto - detailing forum is better, would get a response from more people who do this regularly. If the "acne" look is closer to hazing, a simple PC and compound can remove it. There are quite a few detailers up in the CAN area, might be able to assist you. Wes-R is a real pro and lives in CAN, deals with a lot of acid rain issues as well.
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    If you have used rubbing compound stop right now and take it to a professional. This is far beyond what you want to get into if you thought rubbing compound would be ok. You have damaged the clear coat and polish is not going to fix it. Rubbing compound should NEVER be used on modern paint.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JetBlue View Post
    If you have used rubbing compound stop right now and take it to a professional. This is far beyond what you want to get into if you thought rubbing compound would be ok. You have damaged the clear coat and polish is not going to fix it. Rubbing compound should NEVER be used on modern paint.
    Agree with JetBlu completely. Modern paint damage should not be touched by someone not in the know, or compounds of any sorts. Toothpaste might have been to harsh for the surface. Done my share of Bimmers and Benz's and there are very few paints that have "No clear coat " . Believe it or not, but the direction of paint technology is going to a shell clear coat and/or softer paint color to be "self healing" after a stone chip. It is coming. Definitely not for the amateur to repair.

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    kinda need some better contrast to see. try looking from down to up angle, you can see it better if you are on an LCD screen





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    you sure the compound did that? sure it's not defects? i have an orange ish spot on my front bumper that looks like light oxidation but i've only had my car for a month. mine's barely noticeable but they've agreed to warranty it
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    Quote Originally Posted by dracolnyte View Post
    Hi everybody,

    I didn't notice this before but recently when I was washing my car, I notice there were blotches of faint, dark stains on my car's white exterior.

    They happen to be at the spots of where there was oxidation, prior to using turtle wax's rubbing compound to remove them.

    Now it leaves a nasty mark on my white car's paint, kinda like fading acne marks.

    Any solution to get rid of the marks? I'll post up pictures later.

    Thanks.
    Have you brought your car to a body shop recently? Or had any body work on the car?
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    I just had tints done recently, but they were there before. I'm pretty sure it was the rubbing compound because they are kinda the same colour =\
    i was trying to remove tree sap/oxidation spots using the rubbing compound. later i found out that it could be easily removed using a clay bar =_=

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    Quote Originally Posted by dracolnyte View Post
    I just had tints done recently, but they were there before. I'm pretty sure it was the rubbing compound because they are kinda the same colour =\
    i was trying to remove tree sap/oxidation spots using the rubbing compound. later i found out that it could be easily removed using a clay bar =_=
    Could be from the tint job or the tree sap. I've used turtle wax rubbing compound on several occassions, and it doesnt leave stains like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by valida4 View Post
    Could be from the tint job or the tree sap. I've used turtle wax rubbing compound on several occassions, and it doesnt leave stains like that.
    well maybe cause your car is black, cant see it that visibly. either way, any solution?

    I'll try the quik repair gel if i can find it

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    Quote Originally Posted by dracolnyte View Post
    well maybe cause your car is black, cant see it that visibly. either way, any solution?

    I'll try the quik repair gel if i can find it
    My previous car was white, like I said it doesn't do what your pictures are showing. Rubbing compound is like sandpaper. It will grind away your clearcoat, it wont leave a stain but it will leave scratches.
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    Like hoppy said, I would think a PC would be able to take care of that. If you're not sure what you're doing tho, it may be worth taking to a professional for the peace of mind knowing that it will be taken care of correctly once and for all. I can't really tell what it is from the pics.
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    Before going forward with anymore compound have you tried a clay bar? I had similar spots on my old white TT. The clay bar was a bitch to use but it got them out fine.

    Difference is my car was a good 4-5 years old and the bar was cleaning off viable road shit that had gotten on it over the years.
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    I tried claying it before, didnt work much. maybe i'll try harder again



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