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    Audi Drive Select---Worth it?

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    I am on the cusp of ordering a 2011 S5 cab, and trying to decide if the Drive select is worth 4k. I am not going to be racing the car and am looking for the Drive Select to provide more of a comfort ride at times to counteract the more rigid suspension and wheels. Any one care to add their opinion to this? The sooner the better.

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    Yes. It's like having 3-4 cars in one. If you care about comfort/customization at all, can't skip ADS.
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    Let me first say I don't own an S5 Cab but I did spend a long weekend in one and put a decent amount of kms on it. My B8 is an Avant without ADS.

    So, in the S5 I found it was an all or nothing situation. Felt way too loose and wayward in Comfort. Perhaps I was just used to Dynamic but not once did I feel Comfort was of any use. The Auto setting is a mix bag depending on how you drive. What I did like was the steering remapping. Hands down much better than what is in a non-ADS B8.

    My only concern is the systems longevity. I had a loaner A4 with ADS and it felt crashy and nothing like what a prem sedan should feel like. Granted it was a loaner and we all know how hard they are driven.

    I can't recall but doesn't the S5 not come with some of the functions of ADS?

    If you do get it be sure to VAG it so it defaults to your Individual setting. I did this for the owner of the S5 and he was over the moon.

    As Ryan stated, the customization of it all is a great thing - Fav again is the steering, shocks IMHO didn't suit the S5 in Comfort one bit.

    Either way, you are going to love the S5 Cab. I almost cried giving it back! The attention it go was just plain nuts.

    Good luck and congrats.

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    Like CK said, the ability to customize how your car will behave is well worth it (for me at least). I like the fact that it changes the shift points (in dynamic) and just firms everything up when I want it to. I like the sports differential the best though because it can really feel it working on the cloverleaf on-ramps/off-ramps and even some interchanges (55 North or South and merging onto the 22). I had a similar set up in my last car and it was a must have for my S5. You could always go with just the sports rear diff or ADS lite (as they call it on the forums) if you don't feel it to completely worth it. I say if you can swing it, do it. Good luck with the decision. Either way you're going to have a great looking car that will definitely turn people's heads.
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    its worth it if you have a extra $4k to spend, but you can always get the sports rear diff for $1100 which still gives you some of the ADS features.

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    Big time yes....soft ride and relaxed handling for highway cruising to instant tight ride, responsive handling and higher RPMs for the twisties....all at the push of a button...ya just can't beat it.

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    I have drive select. In "Auto" mode, I notice some savings in gas. Comfort mode is a big plus when carrying females. Females could care less about good handling when they ride your car. So comfort mode is where it is at when cruising with hot babes. ;-)

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    If your car is a dd, sport diff I'd all you need. The s5 is a Cushy ride in all modes.

    If you have 3k to burn sure, but in that case if sport ride is what you desire get coilovers
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    Thanks for all the comments. I went ahead and ordered it. The comfort ride was important for the other passengers that will be in the car occasionally.

    -jason

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtalley View Post
    Thanks for all the comments. I went ahead and ordered it. The comfort ride was important for the other passengers that will be in the car occasionally.

    -jason
    the very same reason why i did. hearing the wife bitch daily about the suspension on my current car was enough to make me spend the extra cash. you can't have you cake though and will not be able to put coilovers in. i just purchased some springs as that's all you can do with the drive select cars.

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    I would skip it personally. You're paying 3 grand just for the shocks. I find the Cab to have a great ride without it. I'd just get the Sport diff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AofC_RR View Post
    I would skip it personally. You're paying 3 grand just for the shocks. I find the Cab to have a great ride without it. I'd just get the Sport diff.
    Don't you also get essentailly an APR type engine tune also?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AofC_RR View Post
    I would skip it personally. You're paying 3 grand just for the shocks. I find the Cab to have a great ride without it. I'd just get the Sport diff.
    "Shocks"....not quite. Adjustable suspension dampening, remapped throttle response (holds gears longer), adjustable steering response.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S4str View Post
    "Shocks"....not quite. Adjustable suspension dampening, remapped throttle response (holds gears longer), adjustable steering response.
    I guess I will have my impression in 10-12 weeks (ughh)

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    Quote Originally Posted by S4str View Post
    "Shocks"....not quite. Adjustable suspension dampening, remapped throttle response (holds gears longer), adjustable steering response.
    Uh no, I know what I'm talking about. The ONLY difference between the Sport diff package and ADS is shocks. With sport diff you still get the adjustable throttle/transmission and steering characteristics and the sport diff. ADS only adds suspension tuning to that to the price of nearly $3k. Hence my statement, I'd skip it for the extra $3k over the sport diff package.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AofC_RR View Post
    Uh no, I know what I'm talking about. The ONLY difference between the Sport diff package and ADS is shocks. With sport diff you still get the adjustable throttle/transmission and steering characteristics and the sport diff. ADS only adds suspension tuning to that to the price of nearly $3k. Hence my statement, I'd skip it for the extra $3k over the sport diff package.
    You don't get the adjustable steering without the ADS. As I understand it, the throttle mapping isn't adjustable either if you only have the sport diff. You need the ADS package for that.

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    That is my understanding as well, the sport rear differential package just has the ADS controls and the Sports Rear Diff. While the ADS Package contains everything (Dynamic steering, suspension, engine/transmission settings, and the ADS controls). I chose the ADS because I wanted it all as opposed to just the rear diff even though it is quite awesome in itself.
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    Lol look i work for Audi, I know what I'm talking about. Search the S4 forum it's been discussed there.
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    I understand that you do work for Audi and that the information you have posted has always been solid so I have no reason to doubt you. I can't speak for the S4 because I do not have that first hand knowledge as you do but would the packages be the same for the S4 and the S5 Cab? I am just wondering why the A5/S5 brochure and Audi website would list the rear diff package as only the rear diff and the controller buttons if there was actually more involved. The Audi site only lists Sports Rear Differential and Audi Drive Select with the Sports Rear Differential Package while it lists Damping Control, Dynamic Steering, Sports Rear Differential, and Audi Drive Select for the Audi Drive Select Package. This is why there are varying schools of thought about this, thanks Audi. The great thing about the forums is that it is a great way to clarify things that the manufacturer sometimes leaves out of their publications and helps better inform the enthusiasts.
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    It is just 3000 dollar shocks if you get sport dif

    All modes are cushy, this is a touring car not a track car
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    read lots of posts on drive select versus just plain sports diff. i'm buying a 2012s4/prestige/6MT/rear sports diff. question is whether to upgrade to drive select option that has SD built in.
    afaict from reading all the posts the difference boils down:

    rear sports diff: get w/ both
    engine/transmission shifts: only with DS (but with MT you control this anyway)
    suspension damping: only on DS
    steering: speed-dependent assist on both *i think*, but ratio adjustment only w/ DS.

    so my question is: if the big wins w/ DS are suspension damping and steering ratio adjustment ** what are the default settings for these features on a NON-DS car? will they be set closer to the comfort end or dynamic end of the spectrum?
    said another way: i'd be happy without DS if suspension and steering are closer to the dynamic end of the spectrum. i'd happily give up the ability to select comfort modes for these. but if the opposite is true; meaning that they are set closer to comfort and i couldn't stiffen the ride or tighten the steering ratio, i'd be bummed.

    appreciate any help!!!

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    This thread ended when OP said he got it... Good decision.

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    it ain't worthy at all! I have it and I haven't used it at all.. I was excited when I got the car but switching modes and dealing with a retarded slow MMI got me insane, in dynamic mode the car feels totally artificial. I've driven cars without and feels just great! enough power to f around.. the more electronics they add on cars the less experience we get.. I got sick of tolerating the car

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    I found that it wasn't worth it at all. The difference in ride comfort is negligible. In fact, I couldn't really tell a difference at all. So why add the extra cost, weight, and complexity to the car when I couldn't feel a difference in the ride anyway?

    And BTW, the thread didn't end because the OP made a decision. Plenty of people are likely to read this thread in the future if they find themselves in a similar situation. To those people, I'd say that you should definitely do your own test drive before making your decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Izzone View Post
    All modes are cushy, this is a touring car not a track car
    I don't know if I'd ever call any A5/S5 "cushy".

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    Skip it.

    The Sport diff is good.

    The " Audi Drive Select" (which in the rest of the world is just the buttons that control the comfort, auto, and dynamic settings, which in turn control the throttle response, sport diff [if u have it], adjustable dampers [if you have it], and dynamic steering [if you have it]) is good. Now in the US they force you to get the dynamic steering and dampers as one package, called Audi Drive Select. Personally I think the dampers are very good, but if you plan on changing the coils then not worth it.

    The biggest issue in the US package for me is the dynamic steering. Personally I think its shit. Sure its an intriguing system and makes the car "feel" sportier, but its completely fake. It just makes the wheels turns more than you expect them to. I tried it out and hated it. Personally I think its a step backwards in driver control. I would definitely skip the dampers just because you have to get the dynamic steering with it.

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    Well, I have S5 on order with ADS and SDiff. After listening to you guys Im starting to think that I should change the order. I still have time. I read everything I could yesterday on coil overs not working on the ADS and that might be the reason to remove ADS all by itself.

    Decisions, Decisions.

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    And I am glad you are still talking about this so I along with others want make a $3,000 mistake plus tax.

    It's hard to test drive a 6MT. They are not on the lot much. And my Audi dealer is 89 miles away.

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    After reading pros and cons I have canceled ADS and kept SDiff. Going to use the savings to see if I can change color to Daytona Grey. With MT I don't think I am loosing much.

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    Houston, we have a problem!

    Just got a call from my dealer saying that can't get Daytona Grey. I am not amused.

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    Really? What's the reason?

    Also, I would not get ADS as a 3k option. Not worth it....especially if you are getting a MT.
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    Ordered it without ADS. Only sport diff. I have a build number for Feb 9. Dealer had no allocations left for 2012 and had to do a swap with another dealer. Phantom Black and Audi says they can change the color. Called AOA and they are checking into it.

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    TYPO: Says they Cant change color.

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    That was weird. It posted twice.

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    I wonder if they're limiting the color dur to the special edition model being offered. Odd....
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    Quote Originally Posted by ACowabunga View Post
    I wonder if they're limiting the color dur to the special edition model being offered. Odd....
    That's it. We are trying one more option to get them to do it. Build date is Feb.9th.
    I have no one to blame but myself. I sat on the fence too long. This is the last month you can order a 2012 S5, then they are history. I have a Phantom Black locked in so I want loose it. Should know the final outcome tomorrow afternoon. We have gone all the way to the top, so, lets see what happens.

    Either way, I will not fret. Much...

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    i have not experienced the exact a5/s5 ads, however my mothers lexus, and fathers merc both have a form of 'comfort control' in which the dampening is adjustable from comfort, sport, and something of the middle. now i have first hand felt the difference between the 3 different settings in each car, and don't get my words twisted, there is a difference, there is a noticeable difference between the 3 settings for sure.....would i pay $3,000 for that difference......no, i could see how some people might like this, but for me, i think there are better areas to drop $3k on than the difference that i would notice


    again, i have not experienced it on an audi level, but i think my knowledge between my folks cars was enough to push me to not select the ADS option when i was looking for my S5
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr shickadance View Post
    i have not experienced the exact a5/s5 ads, however my mothers lexus, and fathers merc both have a form of 'comfort control' in which the dampening is adjustable from comfort, sport, and something of the middle. now i have first hand felt the difference between the 3 different settings in each car, and don't get my words twisted, there is a difference, there is a noticeable difference between the 3 settings for sure.....would i pay $3,000 for that difference......no, i could see how some people might like this, but for me, i think there are better areas to drop $3k on than the difference that i would notice
    Without ADS, I wouldn't hear the end of it from my woman. It has paid for itself within the first 10 minutes the first time I gave her a ride. The only complaint she has left is about how low it is (she drives an SUV).

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