1.8l + PTE5857 = 425awhp?

[Sales@RAI]

His logic is flawed. Obviously flow is important, but an AEB head with an AEB intake mani is fine. You could even drill out the stock one and put a TB on that. The gains on an intake mani are nowhere near the AEB head

[Dan[FN]6262]

I want my car back together.


I think that I might just slap the stock AMB head on the block, put the engine back in the car so that I can drive it and build a badass AEB head. ?


I also want to take it down to RAI to get it dyno'ed with the AMB head, just to see what its making.

[B6Lovin]

His logic is flawed. Obviously flow is important, but an AEB head with an AEB intake mani is fine. You could even drill out the stock one and put a TB on that. The gains on an intake mani are nowhere near the AEB head

yeah but there are drawbacks, and it's not needed. im telling you, the head should only be done when you're outflowing the stock head.

you can see gains long before that happens, but its just more money for the core, hoping its a good one, swapping all your stuff over (or building a new head) etc etc etc.... or you can just bolt on the IM/TB and go to town

[A4 TSCHUSS]

Me with fixed tranny/clutch and file revision from Ray@R.A.I. > Clint > Daniel (currently >) Dan

[Dan[FN]6262]

Me with fixed tranny/clutch and file revision from Ray@R.A.I. > Clint > Daniel (currently >) Dan

lol I'm confused.

[eg6siR]

Should be meth>aeb>Im/tb>cams

meth will benefit you with any of those, either of the other mods would benefit you the most with an aeb head, and I would do the im/tb before the cams just to make sure you could flow enough air to the head without restriction so that the cams would actually provide an improvement.

[A4 TSCHUSS]

lol I'm confused.

What are you confused about? My clutch slips and tranny wont shift to 2nd, 3rd or 4th fast. I am sending the clutch to Clutch Masters to be rebuilt and swapping in my good spare tranny. My tune has a lot of room for improvement according to Ray (Clint's boss) so he is going to get me a file revision. I will then have a much more solid car than I currently have now. Since Clint was barely > me currently, then I will swap that to me > Clint. We are both > Daniel (b6lovin) and you (Dan) don't have a car running yet and what your final mods will be are unknown to me so I have Daniel (b6lovin) currently > than you.

Get it now?

[Dan[FN]6262]

What are you confused about? My clutch slips and tranny wont shift to 2nd, 3rd or 4th fast. I am sending the clutch to Clutch Masters to be rebuilt and swapping in my good spare tranny. My tune has a lot of room for improvement according to Ray (Clint's boss) so he is going to get me a file revision. I will then have a much more solid car than I currently have now. Since Clint was barely > me currently, then I will swap that to me > Clint. We are both > Daniel (b6lovin) and you (Dan) don't have a car running yet and what your final mods will be are unknown to me so I have Daniel (b6lovin) currently > than you.

Get it now?

lol yes

[eg6siR]

david, this is dans build thread.... not the david is better than everyone thread (maybe you should start one of those so you can just post stuff about yourself all day long)... we all know your car, and its problems, you tell us every day. multiple times in the same thread. so why dont you go fix your problems and go to the track so you can beat clints time already and stop posting about how your car is so fucking awesome. i think you seem like an alright dude, you seem to know what you're talking about, but you have a serious inferiority complex going on. people were talking about what head mods would benefit dan the most and all of the sudden the topic became davids car is better than everyone. just chill out on that shit for a while brother. we all get it, your car is the shit.

edit: sorry for the rant, i have a serious hangover and just wanted some updates on dans build

[eg6siR]

anyway, i'd still like to see this homemade valve spring compressor jake was talking about

[Dan[FN]6262]

anyway, i'd still like to see this homemade valve spring compressor jake was talking about

this

[Haenszel20v]

david, this is dans build thread.... not the david is better than everyone thread (maybe you should start one of those so you can just post stuff about yourself all day long)... we all know your car, and its problems, you tell us every day. multiple times in the same thread. so why dont you go fix your problems and go to the track so you can beat clints time already and stop posting about how your car is so fucking awesome. i think you seem like an alright dude, you seem to know what you're talking about, but you have a serious inferiority complex going on. people were talking about what head mods would benefit dan the most and all of the sudden the topic became davids car is better than everyone. just chill out on that shit for a while brother. we all get it, your car is the shit.

edit: sorry for the rant, i have a serious hangover and just wanted some updates on dans build

For christ's sake.... thank you.

[A4 TSCHUSS]

Ok, someone has their panties in a bunch. Everyone was posting their ">" stuff which suited what their car has, so I thought it was funny, guess it wasn't. Clint, Daniel and I have been talking trash about each others car so I didn't see any harm in it. For example, Daniel saying Clint and I are only marginally faster than him in another thread to "stir the pot", then last night I was talking to one of Clint's buddies (hey look there he is making an appearance above, the funny thing is I helped him out by selling him a crank nice and cheap very fast when he was in a bind, but I still get shit from him) whos car is always broke so I joking around said "your car is worse than Clint's for not running more than it does" so then Clint saw it and took a stab at me and said "when it runs, it is breaking records" refering to his own car, so like I said, I thought this was all friendly poking on one another, I guess I was terribly wrong since you are so upset. Oh and no feelings of inferiority from me, I am quite good at everything I do (sorry did I just toot my own horn, my bad).

I will say it would be funny if Dan gets his car together and takes Daniel out right away Things could get exciting.

[eg6siR]

david you crack me up man... i am on here everyday, i see what is said between you guys, i just dont always feel the need to post in every thread, i try to keep what i'm going to say relevant to the thread if i am going to make a post.. and no one was comparing cars with the ">" signs... they were talking head mods in their order from greatest to least beneficial... which you somehow took as "aww fuck these guys are saying their cars are better than mine". and my panties are definitely not in a bunch, i am probably the most laid back dude you will ever meet in your life... ask clint, he knows me, i stayed with him for h20i 2 years ago.

[eg6siR]

oh, and since you guys like to destroy transmissions i am currently working on my spare 6spd, micro polishing the ring and pinion for the front diff, and hardened 1st, 2nd, and 3rd gears... still debating whether or not to touch the main and counter shafts. i was going to make a thread about it when its done, but i already mentioned it in charlies "my car runs strong as fuck thread" so i guess i will tell you guys more about it... if you're interested

and if you guys didnt know, i work in a transmission shop, been doing it for almost 6 years now..

[Dan[FN]6262]

soooo..... who thinks I should build the AMB head, or throw it back on (stock) and build a badass AEB head? lol

[eg6siR]

stock amb head, build aeb head, dyno them both and see what you gained...

[A4 TSCHUSS]

no one was comparing cars with the ">" signs... they were talking head mods in their order from greatest to least beneficial... which you somehow took as "aww fuck these guys are saying their cars are better than mine".

I didn't say they were comparing cars, I said they were comparing with the ">" to suit what their car has. Clint said aeb > because he has one, Daniel on the other hand is anti AEB head and said intake manifold/TB is > because he has that. I didn't take anything about what they said as they are better, because clearly Clint and I are currently extremely close to one another and Daniel is a little behind. There are always going to be battles, this stuff has been going on since 2005 when the gtrs eliminators came out, there are just some "new kids on the block" to add to the mix, no pun intended.

And for your transmission stuff, JHM already awhile back had a deal going to get everything cryo treated inside the tranny. Mike Hood was trying to get a group of people together to do it but it was kind of steep on the pricing after accounting for like $500 for syncro rebuild kit then like $200 or whatever it was for the cryo then another $300-400 or whatever it was for labor taking apart and putting back together along with maybe one or two other things. I can't remember the price you could probably search for Mike-2ptzero and transmission and might find the old thread. Nobody has done it because it is to damn expensive and you can just buy spare transmissions for $100-500 and swap it out if/when the time comes for another one.

[A4 TSCHUSS]

soooo..... who thinks I should build the AMB head, or throw it back on (stock) and build a badass AEB head? lol

Put stock back on and build AEB. Listen to Winston since he has been there done that and saw the results.

[eg6siR]

i am really curious to see what this turbo can do with just rods on a stock motor

[eg6siR]

i remember the stuff through mike and the jhm. however i am not trying to do a group buy, and i'm not trying to make a profit either.... i was just offering up some info on what i was about to do... mike wanted to pay someone else to do the assembly and whatnot and i'm sure he was gonna charge a good bit for the modifications to the transmission parts as well, and i'm sure he was gonna charge list price for all the synchronizers and whatnot. so yea, i can see why no one wanted to spend an ass ton of money to make their tranny hold up to the task.

but i am doing the work myself, i have a good connection for micro polishing of my gears, and for cryo treatment. and this is probably gonna cost me less than a good spare transmission, unless i got it from clint.
this is also something i might be able to do for people on the side with their spare transmissions. keep in mind, i am not offering services here, i am merely letting you know what i'm doing to my transmission, if it works out, i might help out some other guys....

[Dan[FN]6262]

stock amb head, build aeb head, dyno them both and see what you gained...

this is what I was thinking

[A4 TSCHUSS]

Here it was click

[eg6siR]

Then we charge $500 labor to go through the trans and $490 for all the 1 through 5 synchros, gaskets and seals.

well considering i wont be charging myself labor, i can shave off $500 for that, and i will also not be paying dealer list price for sychros and seals, i can probably shave off another $250. and since i'm not paying an ass ton for my cryo treatment, i should also save a good bit of money in that aspect as well... and i am going to micro polish the front ring/pinion in the diff.

i will come in way below the 1300-2000 mark, probably closer to $400-$500 total.

i mean, jay is asking $1000 just to pull the tranny apart and put in synchros and seals... thats not a bad price if you go to a tranny shop, as a rebuild on one of our trannys would come in at around $3000-$4000 for all new hard parts, synchros, seals, and gaskets. and $300 for the cryo really isnt to bad either..

i just am not going to pay nearly that... but i guess not everyone can disassemble and rebuild one of our manual trannys .

[eg6siR]

ok, its time to go watch Pens Vs. Habs soon. i'll talk to you gents this evening. do work dan!

[dougyfresh]

david, this is dans build thread.... not the david is better than everyone thread (maybe you should start one of those so you can just post stuff about yourself all day long)... we all know your car, and its problems, you tell us every day. multiple times in the same thread. so why dont you go fix your problems and go to the track so you can beat clints time already and stop posting about how your car is so fucking awesome. i think you seem like an alright dude, you seem to know what you're talking about, but you have a serious inferiority complex going on. people were talking about what head mods would benefit dan the most and all of the sudden the topic became davids car is better than everyone. just chill out on that shit for a while brother. we all get it, your car is the shit.

edit: sorry for the rant, i have a serious hangover and just wanted some updates on dans build

thank you

[dougyfresh]

His logic is flawed. Obviously flow is important, but an AEB head with an AEB intake mani is fine. You could even drill out the stock one and put a TB on that. The gains on an intake mani are nowhere near the AEB head

Significant gains have been made on a stock AMB head with AMB intake manifold ported to a 70mm throttle body. The key there is removing the bottle neck of said stock throttle body. Velocities are then up so the AMB head is okay.

[O2VW1.8T]

small port probably becomes a bottle neck around 500+.. My car almost trapped the same on a fully built AEB vs stock small port at 23psi. 124mph on small and 126 on AEB built... But once i turned the boost to 28 is was stupid, easily 130mph trap car. People these days sell AEB's for way to much money, i used to get brand new, i mean NEW for 500. Should of bought 4-5 when i had a chance and resold them for 1k

[winston@podi.ca]

soooo..... who thinks I should build the AMB head, or throw it back on (stock) and build a badass AEB head? lol

You know what I think

[dougyfresh]

swwweeeeeeeettt.... my buddy has a spring compressor tool that'll work with our tiny heads lol

2.7T heads but same principle.
http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...=1#post5221103

[Dan[FN]6262]

2.7T heads but same principle.
http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...=1#post5221103

yep, that looks basically the same as my friends

[7speed]

Dont try and reinvent the wheel. Go ahead with AEB and call it a day. This way we can all move onto the next argument about your build.

[Dan[FN]6262]

lmao deal

[eg6siR]

I agree he should build an aeb head, but he can put the car back together with the stock head for now to get the setup up and running, and I believe dan is going to run maestro.. Correct me if I'm wrong. But since he can fine tune the different setups, I would be curios to see what this turbo can do on a stock engine with custom tuning.

@dan, where are you getting tuned at with the maestro? Or did you decide to go a different route?

[Dan[FN]6262]

I agree he should build an aeb head, but he can put the car back together with the stock head for now to get the setup up and running, and I believe dan is going to run maestro.. Correct me if I'm wrong. But since he can fine tune the different setups, I would be curios to see what this turbo can do on a stock engine with custom tuning.

@dan, where are you getting tuned at with the maestro? Or did you decide to go a different route?

I'm still going to port the intake of the head so that I can run the AEB manifold that I have, other than that, it'll be bone stock. I'm also curious about the power it'll make.

I'm still not 100% sure about the tuning. Unitronic is sounding good because it'll only cost me 670 bones and they can get it dialed in it at RAI. But maestro does sound awesome, seeing that I can tweak everything and basically anyone with an AWD dyno could tune my car....

and there is also AutoSpeed..... I just don't know if I want to drive almost 4hrs to get tuned.... decisions.

still undecided.

[Dan[FN]6262]

I still haven't decided on a manifold....

Not sure if the Treadstone will fit ... *cough*Doug*cough*

and I just don't like the SPA.

I'm sure PSi's Mani wont fit, its looks really tight with a 30R on it.

[Dan[FN]6262]

words in. Treadstone won't fit comfortably at all


Thanks Doug

[7speed]

The way I see it you have 2 options. Custom or SPA. You can have Jay build you a uber custom or get the SPA that comes with a lifetime warranty.

Custom


SPA

[Sales@RAI]

or full-race.

Do the SPA

[B6Lovin]

Built head no matter what you do is the bottom line for safety. You don't want to drop or float a valve in the name of comparing heads. This is your car afterall... Not some shop project with which to tinker. I say built amb and rev the ****** to hell and back... You heard straight from Peter that he saw minimal top end gains, and I bet there were almost none on the 8th mile. If you only want 400 put that aeb money elsewhere... Like for a rainy day when random parts take a shit on you.