Audizine's Official 60-130 and Standing Mile List

[Tech/Sales@VAST]

8.27 in 90*F heat the other day. I really need to start in 2nd for these runs because i dont hit full boost till past 60mph in 3rd. Sent the logs in.

That's still really fast considering your car is on pump gas and over 4k lbs with the way you made the run with passenger, wheels, amplifiers etc on low boost.

[Jason:addict]

Our TiAL 605 car just did 8.7 at 25psi in high heat, verification to follow.

[gearhead1186]

Our TiAL 605 car just did 8.7 at 25psi in high heat, verification to follow.

nice!

[AudiSportB5S4]

Our TiAL 605 car just did 8.7 at 25psi in high heat, verification to follow.

Impressive

[Espen W]

Have any of you guys tried to do a no shift pull in 4th only?
Running 31psi, on the 2.2L I5 in the RS2, I've I've got peak torque from 67mph in 4th gear (same ratios as B5 RS4 with 4.11FD and 1.03 4th).
60-90mph takes 2.61s in 3rd and 3.08s in 4th, the less than 0.5s advantage that 3rd gear would have is more than made up for by not having to shift. Not only does the shift itself take time, but with having to build boost again, a large chunk of time passes before the G's are back up. (No wonder the 997.2TT with PDK pulls such amazing times)
I would imagine the 2.7TT's being even better suited for a no shift pull, even though 4th is somewhat taller geared in the S4)
100-200km/h is where it's at over here, and I hit the limiter hard at 128mph or so, so I haven't gotten to time a 60-130. 100-200km/h (approx 62-125mph) is 7.62s, with 60-125 in 7.98s

[Jason:addict]

Have any of you guys tried to do a no shift pull in 4th only?
Running 31psi, on the 2.2L I5 in the RS2, I've I've got peak torque from 67mph in 4th gear (same ratios as B5 RS4 with 4.11FD and 1.03 4th).
60-90mph takes 2.61s in 3rd and 3.08s in 4th, the less than 0.5s advantage that 3rd gear would have is more than made up for by not having to shift. Not only does the shift itself take time, but with having to build boost again, a large chunk of time passes before the G's are back up. (No wonder the 997.2TT with PDK pulls such amazing times)
I would imagine the 2.7TT's being even better suited for a no shift pull, even though 4th is somewhat taller geared in the S4)
100-200km/h is where it's at over here, and I hit the limiter hard at 128mph or so, so I haven't gotten to time a 60-130. 100-200km/h (approx 62-125mph) is 7.62s, with 60-125 in 7.98s

Greetings to Norway and thanks for posting. It's nice to get some info from an RS2 owner! What turbo are you running? From what I've seen even with the 'quicker' spool of our 770 car it's still hard to get 4th gear to come on early enough. We have an RS4 trans and 4th gear makes it to about 143mph at just under 8500 rpm, and 3rd gear provides peak acceleration (according to the GPS) exactly at 60mph. I'm planning on attempting to limit the actual shift time and boost recovery (flat shift) instead of getting the system to handle huge amounts of torque delivered from a 4th gear 30+ psi boost spike.

It's worth trying though, as it has become the fastest way for many higher displacement turbo cars.

[AudiSportB5S4]

That RS2 is hauling some ass.. Wow those are great numbers..

[Audi_S4]

Not that it's an Audi but it's a good friend of mine who has the fastest car I've been in (except for maybe the Z06) He has a fully built gutted Volvo R with a GT2871R @ 1.8bar boost (26psi)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=To23O...eature=related

[Espen W]

Greetings to Norway and thanks for posting. It's nice to get some info from an RS2 owner! What turbo are you running?

I'm running a Turbonetics T04 E50 with a KKK #8 hotside. Runs on E85 and that made a night and day difference, even at the same boost.

[Jason:addict]

Well it was actually an 8.68!

TiAL 605 Kit
AMD IC's
AMD 3" DP's
AMD 3.5" Exhaust
AMD 044 Fuel Pump Kit
Aquamist HFS-1 50/50 Meth
27psi spike to 25psi Flat Through Redline
Full 2.7 Small Port Stock Top & Bottom End

[gearhead1186]

^ thats awesome!

[sektor M7]

Stock Block/Rods plus fuel pump upgrade ?

Impressive results.

[Espen W]

Jason: does the 605 car have the RS4 tranny as well?
What is the weight?

[Jason:addict]

Stock Block/Rods plus fuel pump upgrade ?

Impressive results.

Yup - drop-in 044 pump and completely stock engine.

Jason: does the 605 car have the RS4 tranny as well?
What is the weight?

This is full interior with stock S4 trans - should tip scales around 3700lbs with A/C removed (without driver).

[Evilevo]

How is it 3700 without AC?

My car was 3650 with AC and a Spare CH and sub and amps with the heavy CHs on the car.

Yup - drop-in 044 pump and completely stock engine.




This is full interior with stock S4 trans - should tip scales around 3700lbs with A/C removed (without driver).

[sektor M7]

Unless you cornerbalance the car and read the weight off the scales weight estimates are going to be all over the place.

[Evilevo]

Unless you cornerbalance the car and read the weight off the scales weight estimates are going to be all over the place.

I put my car on calibrated scales at Maryland International Rceway

[TweetsS4Estate]

Awesome work Jason. We need to get some solid RS6 cars in the mix here.

[michael66899]

Awesome work Jason. We need to get some solid RS6 cars in the mix here.

2nd, would be interested to see what an RS6 car does even though I think 605s are much better in every aspect. Great work Jason keep it up man.

[Evilevo]

Awesome work Jason. We need to get some solid RS6 cars in the mix here.

Do a 60-130 with your car!

[Espen W]

We can see from the 605 graph that there is a gap of a little more than one second that passes from the shift is initiated until the G-Force is at the same level in the next gear. The shift itself takes much less time, but spool, inertia, etc plays a role.
With the RS4 box, it would most likely be quicker with a 4th only pull, but with the 6.5% longer 4th in the S4 box, it is probably faster using 3rd and 4th.

[kramrs2]

Just AMAZING!!!


How much timing the car was pushing at redline with 25psi + Meth?

[DLSJ5]

Here's "Bondoc's" Stage 3 S4, 60-130 time, with some lackluster shifts ;)

9.45s (2 shifts) 1.26 decline, 60-130MPH.

Here's his setup at the time -
K04's, HB Tune
AWE IC's, DP's, Twin 1 Exhaust
100/110 octane

His 2nd shift really hurt his time, if we measured 100-200kph (62-124mph) he hit 7.71s!

From 100-200kph here's how he compares with others -

6.7 - Enzo
6.8 - GTB 599
6.8 – CBR 1100XX
7.2 - SLR
7.7 - Stage 3 B5 S4
7.8 - Murci LP640
7.9 - C6 Z06
8.0 - Ford GT
8.4 - 997TT
8.4 - F430
8.4 - 996 GT2
8.6 - M6
8.7 - SL65 AMG
8.8 - Gallardo Superleggera
8.8 - E60 M5
8.9 - S65 AMG
9.0 - 996TT X50/Turbo 'S'
9.1 - Gallardo SE
9.7 - 996TT- 9.7
10.0 - E55 AMG

[bone_doc S4]

thanks for posting the graph bro!

So far the fastest PJ k04, full weight car in Socal and maybe the US......hahaha. And that was some crappy shifting

[rouellettea4]

thanks for posting the graph bro!

So far the fastest PJ k04, full weight car in Socal and maybe the US......hahaha. And that was some crappy shifting

What's your car trap around? thats pretty darn impressive!

[Audi_S4]

Holy shizzles Bone_doc's car is so sick!

What power is it making ?

Gotta measure mine soon with the new tune!

[bone_doc S4]

rouellettea4: only took the car to the track once on that setup, unfortunately managed to blow my tranny, but still trapped 117 limping down...

Audi_S4: car dynoed 410whp/445tq on a mustang

thanks for the props guys

[Audi_S4]

Nice one! What setup are you running now then ?

Do you shift past 7k rpm in 4th ?

[Espen W]

100-200kmh in 7.7 is most excellent :)
What was the ambient temp?
Weight of the car including driver?
With stock sized tires a B5 S4 should reach 130mph at approx 6950rpm (not considering possible tire deformation which should be close to zero at that speed anyway), so try to stay in 4th until 130mph.
Try a no shift 4th gear pull as well. Might be quicker.

[Audi_S4]

How would a 250lbs passenger affect a 100-200 pull for someone who runs this time on it's own?

[Espen W]

How would a 250lbs passenger affect a 100-200 pull for someone who runs this time on it's own?

Would probably add around say 0.5 or 0.6s.
NA would suffer more than FI since the added weight would make the turbo spool at a slightly lower rpm, offsetting some of the weight gain

[Evilevo]

100-200kmh in 7.7 is most excellent :)
What was the ambient temp?
Weight of the car including driver?
With stock sized tires a B5 S4 should reach 130mph at approx 6950rpm (not considering tire possible tire deformation which should be close to zero at that speed anyway), so try to stay in 4th until 130mph.
Try a no shift 4th gear pull as well. Might be quicker.

I looked back at my fastest 60-130 so far. My car did a 7.2 100-200kmh. I found a meth leak that was causing my IATs to go too high. Also looking into trying to free up the intake tract with either a RS4 Intake Manifold or modifying the stock and doing a 80mm TB.

[nthusiastt]

Would really love to see what some of the VR6's do

[Spooled1.8]

Would really love to see what some of the VR6's do

x2, I'd love to see USP's 60-130 time

[bone_doc S4]

Audi_S4: currently running AWE with EBC, i didnt shift past 7k

Espen W: thanks, temps were mid-upp 60s, i weigh 160, car is about 3600

Evilevo: whats your 60-130? GTs should be hitting low 6s. Which GTs are you running from Mike/Vast?

[Audi_S4]

What kinda of mixture do you run with the 109? Cause I read on the Sunoco site that 109 is not supposed to be in the tank for more then 24hrs , I'm gonna get some 109 soon but was wondering how much to put in!

What wheels are you running Bone_Doc?

[bone_doc S4]

i ran a mix of 100/110, wheels are SSR Comps (18in)

[Evilevo]

Audi_S4: currently running AWE with EBC, i didnt shift past 7k

Espen W: thanks, temps were mid-upp 60s, i weigh 160, car is about 3600

Evilevo: whats your 60-130? GTs should be hitting low 6s. Which GTs are you running from Mike/Vast?

My car did a 8.2 60-130 at like 26-27psi on pump/meth.

I am still trying to figure out some stuff with my car. Mike@VAST says it isnt making the power it should be, so we are looking into changing some stuff like the intake manifold and throttle body and see if that helps.

I am on 2871R/Agtronic kit.

[Espen W]

My car did a 8.2 60-130 at like 26-27psi on pump/meth.

I am still trying to figure out some stuff with my car. Mike@VAST says it isnt making the power it should be, so we are looking into changing some stuff like the intake manifold and throttle body and see if that helps.

I am on 2871R/Agtronic kit.

I would have expected a better time for your car, but remember that ditching the passenger will save approx 0.5s.
Do you have Mustang dyno #'s for your car.
What is your 60-90, 60-100, 60-120mph and 100-200km/h times?

Also, did you stay in 4th until 130mph or did you shift into 5th?

[Evilevo]

I would have expected a better time for your car, but remember that ditching the passenger will save approx 0.5s.
Do you have Mustang dyno #'s for your car.
What is your 60-90, 60-100, 60-120mph and 100-200km/h times?

For some reason my car isnt making the power it should be. We think there is a restriction in either my intake or exhaust setup that is holding it back. We are looking into that now.

The best FATS my car has done is a 2.8 with 1 passenger. Not sure about the 60-100 or 60-120, and right now I am too lazy to open up my logs, lol. my 100-200kmh i posted above, i think it was a 7.2

I also found that my meth injection was leaking somewhat, so that might have been affecting it too.