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    Senior Member Four Rings *Blue-Angel*'s Avatar
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    Just wanted to post a thread of all my recent changes to my S4. If you aren't familiar with who I am Ill give an intro. I just got my silver 2000 S4 6spd with 78K miles on it original owner no previous mods. The car was bought with many many problems which I knew about because I was going to rebuild it. I garaged the car after 1.5K miles on the car and began to tear it apart and change as much as possible at the same time. Here is the list with pics to follow in the future.

    Car Has been completely gutted
    Momo Racing Seat One Piece 18.9lbs
    Carbon Fiber Sun roof delete (Eagle Motorsport)
    Silver Carbon Fiber Trim (Eagle Motorsport)
    Snow Performance Meth Kit
    Eagle Motorsport Brake Backing Plates For Brake Ducts
    VAST ARD BiPipes
    Samco Diverter Valves
    034 Intake System
    JHM Drivetrain Stabilizer Bar with Poly Bushing
    ER SMICs and Carbon Shrouds
    Rebuilt O1E tranny with Cryo tempered Mainshaft, 1st & 2nd. WPC to Mainshaft and 1st
    4:1 Center Diff
    New Clutch Kit (SB full face feramic/kevlar for the street; 6 puck ceramic for the track) 2900lb SACHS race cover
    LWFW (SB Steel)
    One Piece Carbon Fiber Driveshaft (Eagle Motorsport)
    3.5 exhaust (Eagle Motorsport)
    3.0 dps (034)
    JHM shifter, bushings, linkage
    Control arms with Stern uppers, Febi Lowers
    Aluminum knuckles in replacement of what used to be steel. 3lb savings
    KW Motorsport Racing Coilovers, 1200lb Front Linear Rate 3 Way adjustable Monotube dampers and 1000lb rear 2 way adjustable twin tube dampers (Eagle Motorsport)
    AP Racing BBK: Custom Floating 2 piece rotors & Ferrodo Race Pads DSUNU Front with 2500 Rear (Eagle Motorsport)
    Hotchkis Rear Sway Bar with Subframe Reinforcement Brackets
    H&R Front Sway Bar attached via Perrin Polyurethane Spherical Joint Endlinks
    Silicone boost hoses and T-Bolt Clamps
    Perrin MBC in Parallel with N75
    New coilpacks & Spark Plugs Denso Iridium 1 Step Colder
    Valve cover seals
    Stern Motor Mounts, Tranny mounts, Snub mount
    Stern Front Rear Diff Mount with 034 Billet Carrier and Stern Poly Bushings Locking the Rear Down
    Vast Hi-Flow EFK
    Rebuilt and balanced K03s (CompTurbo)
    Slave cylinder (C4 S4) In Other words Metal Slave
    s.s. clutch line (USP)
    Power steering cooler (Eagle Motorsport)
    Oil cooler (Eagle Motorsport)
    Steel Rear End Links
    Billet Aluminum Front subframe bushings
    RS4 grille
    Rebuilt Front & Rear Axles (Fronts Courtesy of Raxles)
    All new bearings and seals for drivetrain
    Replace both rear diff seals
    Damn near every single bolt, nut, gasket and seal replaced for brand new.
    A lot of lines on and around the engine replaced as well.

    and a bunch bunch more.


    Motor Build To Start Soon:
    Custom GTX28 on 3.0L
    Last edited by *Blue-Angel*; 03-25-2012 at 04:40 PM.

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    Senior Member Four Rings *Blue-Angel*'s Avatar
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    Just a little teaser :)

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    Senior Member Four Rings *Blue-Angel*'s Avatar
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    saved for pictures

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    where you get those rotors? and did you weigh the different knuckles?

    I ended up buying motor/tranny mounts instead :\
    00 B5 S4 - K04, Stern Soft MM, Stern Snub, DTS, Neuspeed Rear Sway, Oinkies, GIAC stg 2 XR, Vogtland GT, SSAC copy. Soo... Stg 2.31456?

    06 Mazda3 - Wife's car and autox car

    96 Eclipse GSX - Gone
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    96 Soarer GT - Gone
    93 RX7 R1 - Gone and missing her

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    Senior Member Four Rings *Blue-Angel*'s Avatar
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    Those are DBA rotors, and I bought them from tirerack.

    I weighed the aluminum ones and they came out to be 16lbs on my digital home scale. They are deff lighter than steel but then again I'm gaining weight with those massive rotors so ill take what I can.

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    Why did you go with Stern uppers control arms and not even have coilovers?

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    Senior Member Three Rings lbs4's Avatar
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    if your going through all oft the trouble rebuilding the car i would definity go with some k04s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lbs4 View Post
    if your going through all oft the trouble rebuilding the car i would definity go with some k04s.
    yeah you might as well sell the k03's and pick up a used set of k04's. Trust me you are going to want to in the future and you will be kicking yourself for not doing them now.
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    Senior Member Four Rings *Blue-Angel*'s Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dowskeet View Post
    Why did you go with Stern uppers control arms and not even have coilovers?
    Because I will buy the coilovers in the future. And plus even without the lowering of the car I can adjust the camber up front to be more neg than the rear.

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    Senior Member Four Rings *Blue-Angel*'s Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by spokismB5S4 View Post
    yeah you might as well sell the k03's and pick up a used set of k04's. Trust me you are going to want to in the future and you will be kicking yourself for not doing them now.
    Not practical in my situation. I'm building a block from the ground up and putting tials on. The K03s are just to hold me over until the block is ready. It would be stupid to buy K04s and proper fueling and inlets just to have to upgrade from that in the future. Wasted money.

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    Senior Member Three Rings spokismB5S4's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by *Blue-Angel* View Post
    Not practical in my situation. I'm building a block from the ground up and putting tials on. The K03s are just to hold me over until the block is ready. It would be stupid to buy K04s and proper fueling and inlets just to have to upgrade from that in the future. Wasted money.
    Yup, that makes perfect sense. Shoulda said somthing about the tials tho lol.
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    Yeah that is a good idea. I'm debating on whether to spend on the fueling or save for Tial's.
    I got dem K04's to replace the ded K03's, but I'm on a VERY conservative tune (I pulled back boost to 15psi with Lemi, no i'm not getting knock or major timing pulls).
    00 B5 S4 - K04, Stern Soft MM, Stern Snub, DTS, Neuspeed Rear Sway, Oinkies, GIAC stg 2 XR, Vogtland GT, SSAC copy. Soo... Stg 2.31456?

    06 Mazda3 - Wife's car and autox car

    96 Eclipse GSX - Gone
    03 Acura CL Type S - Gone
    96 Soarer GT - Gone
    93 RX7 R1 - Gone and missing her

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    Senior Member Four Rings *Blue-Angel*'s Avatar
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    Plus all the I could find was BWs and they were like 1200 used or slightly less with some miles on them, plus car would drive like ass compared to a proper tuned K03 car. Getting them rebuilt is gonna cost 550 shipped for both of them. So financially it makes sense as well as peace of mind until my built engine is ready to drop in.

    Ps I didn't mention the tials because I was going to make a build thread when the time is right. I just wanted to post up all the crap I'm doing now to get this car above 100% working condition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by *Blue-Angel* View Post
    Because I will buy the coilovers in the future. And plus even without the lowering of the car I can adjust the camber up front to be more neg than the rear.
    And again why would you want that? Good to hear Coilovers are in the plans for the future..

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    Senior Member Four Rings *Blue-Angel*'s Avatar
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    Increase turn in and oversteer. That's part of the reason you use camber adjustable links even in lowered cars.

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    Looking good. I was going to rail you for putting in K03's, but your plan makes sense. Do you have any pics of the front suspension bolted in?
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    Quote Originally Posted by *Blue-Angel* View Post
    Increase turn in and oversteer. That's part of the reason you use camber adjustable links even in lowered cars.
    Gotcha.. So the car is going to be more of a track car than a dd. Good luck with all the work

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    Senior Member Four Rings *Blue-Angel*'s Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by RolledMySTi View Post
    Looking good. I was going to rail you for putting in K03's, but your plan makes sense. Do you have any pics of the front suspension bolted in?
    Haha yeah I said K03s and that's pretty much an open book for the bashing comments to commence. But as you read its cost effective as well as practical in my situation. No pics of it all bolted in but I will post pics as the new parts come in and on the car. I've spent a lot and I mean a lot of time lately just trying to clean as much of the damn car as I could. Just keep an eye out for this thread because as the car becomes finished I should have some nice digi pics up of the arms, new driveshaft turbos and clutch as well as those sexy 13.4 in DBA Rotors


    And yes car not being built for dd use at all, nore do I plan on putting those kind of miles on the car, it will deff see some track days at sebring, daytona, and miami raceway once completed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by *Blue-Angel* View Post
    Not practical in my situation. I'm building a block from the ground up and putting tials on. The K03s are just to hold me over until the block is ready. It would be stupid to buy K04s and proper fueling and inlets just to have to upgrade from that in the future. Wasted money.
    "poper fueling" would be all interchangable minus the tune...which you wouldnt even need if you just have a stg1-2 chip.

    not to mention the better gas mileage on k04's.
    Totaled the TL...looking for mk1's

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    Senior Member Four Rings *Blue-Angel*'s Avatar
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    That may be true I'm not sure. But I'm shooting for 550 whp with the built block. I really don't want to be buying injectors and mafs appropriate for one and not the other. Plusi don't want to spend all the dough on K04s when I'm buying tials. End of that story just stupid and a throw away of money.

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    Stephen, Glad you got the uprights! Everything looks awesome!

    You picked out an exhaust yet? I'm having a amazing fab guy I know making me a 3.0(or 3.5)in aluminum exhaust for my personal s4. 3in is going to run just a hair under 800 bucks. Full 3in with aluminum muffler and dual 2 1/4 AL tips. Full exhaust is going to weigh just under 10 lbs.


    AKA: belittle

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    Senior Member Four Rings *Blue-Angel*'s Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by belittle View Post
    Stephen, Glad you got the uprights! Everything looks awesome!

    You picked out an exhaust yet? I'm having a amazing fab guy I know making me a 3.0(or 3.5)in aluminum exhaust for my personal s4. 3in is going to run just a hair under 800 bucks. Full 3in with aluminum muffler and dual 2 1/4 AL tips. Full exhaust is going to weigh just under 10 lbs.
    Yeah I got an awesome fab shop as well so either custom 3.5 with flowmaster or GMG 3.5
    Haven't decided yet. That will be the last thing I buy on the list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by *Blue-Angel* View Post
    Aluminum knuckles in replacement of what used to be steel. saved 12lbs in the process ea side
    General consensus is that these are 6 lbs. lighter per side, so let us know once you weigh them. I got my alum. uprights on order too.
    "Understeer is when you hit the wall with front of the car...oversteer is when you hit it with the rear...
    ...Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall...torque is how far you take the wall with you"

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    Senior Member Four Rings *Blue-Angel*'s Avatar
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    I did weight them on my household digital scale and they came in at 16lbs. The only other option I had would be to take them to publix and weigh there to. The guy that sent them got like 16.8 so it comes out to about 12lbs saved each side because the steel ones are about 28lbs.

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    Senior Member Four Rings *Blue-Angel*'s Avatar
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    Well I'm in the process of buying the rest of the parts for the car. The date is set! Should be finalized by Friday the 30th!

    4 months pushing 5 is long enough for me. Im ready to start boosting again.

    Updated the list as well.
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    Senior Member Four Rings *Blue-Angel*'s Avatar
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    Sending a bunch of OEM crap off to the dump that was the first of 3 dropoffs.

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    wow i didnt know you were doing that much! let me know when the big stuff arrives i would love to check it out!

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    Senior Member Four Rings *Blue-Angel*'s Avatar
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    I will certainly be posting pics when it comes in. But your welcome to come by and see it all when the time comes.

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    What shop are you think of using locally to do your exhaust?

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    Senior Member Four Rings *Blue-Angel*'s Avatar
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    Mad hatter muffler in Tampa off Linebaugh
    Last edited by *Blue-Angel*; 05-04-2010 at 07:02 PM.

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    Cool, I will have to pay them a visit. Im looking to go 3.5" aswell. There is also supposed to be a guy off Ulmerton that does really nice work that i was going to look into.

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    @xxSection8xx you have an S? tampa bay area FTW lol

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    Senior Member Four Rings *Blue-Angel*'s Avatar
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    Just updated the list to reflect my newest additions.

    SB clutch with race spec pressure plate, Feramic/Kevlar Disc for the street; 6 Puck ceramic for the track
    4:1 Center Diff Upgrade
    SB steel flywheel
    Last edited by *Blue-Angel*; 05-04-2010 at 07:02 PM.

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    This thread needs more pictures.
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    Senior Member Four Rings *Blue-Angel*'s Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by 98a4 View Post
    This thread needs more pictures.
    Yep I know. I've been taking a bunch but haven't uploaded em yet.
    Last edited by *Blue-Angel*; 04-16-2010 at 03:56 PM.

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    Looking good man. Can't wait till it's finished.
    Post pics!

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    Raxles Axles Front & Turbos back from rebuild looking far better than they did when they left.




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    Bout 3 weeks left till all the parts come in. Waiting on one massive pallet to arrive with all my goodies. And a few other shipments from 034 and JHM and back to re assemble it all.

    Only thing slowing the process is waiting for the 034 downpipes.

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    How much were the raxles?

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    174.95 + shipping and taxes if in FL.

    Includes new boots, inner & outer joints, amsoil synthetic grease & reused OEM shafts.

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