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    After 50K in the RS5, what is next for me?

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    My last post got me thinking a bit so I need some thoughts on my next step; below are my choices as I see them. I want to remain in the 80k range with a standard deviation of 10k. I need a sports car capable of commuting through all seasons as well as to my ski house. What should I do?

    1. keep my RS5 for another 50K and just enjoy a well cared for high mileage car for as long as it holds up?
    2. wait for the next RS4/5 to arrive and trade for that?
    3. buy a brand new carrera 4
    4. buy a CPO Carrera 4S
    5. buy a cpo E63 AMG-S 4 Matic

    option 1 is what I am leaning towards because of how great this car has treated me. But it would be nice to sell it while it has higher re-sale so that I dont have to put up as much cash on my next purchase.
    option 2 may take a while and it would likely be the most expensive option as it would combine depreciation over the time that I wait and a high price on a new car
    option 3 could work as it would combine a strong resale on my car with a reasonable price on a P car ... but is the base engine a bit too tame?
    option 4 could be cool but i hesitate to drive a car with someone else's germs... (kidding) but is a used car a good idea?
    option 5 same as 4, but is that too luxo-barge? (i'd hunt for the wagon)

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    I would keep the RS. im one of the rare people that don't care about Porsche. the RS is a great looking car, and its been reliable to you , decent power w/ AWD. win/win. paid off car > car note, imo. after that, u could trade it in for the new RS if u have the itch.

    I love the E63's, but I also love attention, and wimmins don't give e63's attention as much as they do for the audi 5's :)
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    ^and we do it all for da wimmins.
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    Quote Originally Posted by essfour View Post
    ^and we do it all for da wimmins.
    1000%!
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    Would not even consider a base 911 4- a CPO'd C4S is a far better buy.

    E63 is fantastic but a totally different drive.

    The RS is a reliable car so no issues with keeping it, or even keeping it just until the new RS4/RS5 is announced. Can always jump ship then as well.
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    The E63 AMG is a great car but big. Very luxurious and I think it masks speed very well. But thats not always a good thing.

    I would look into the C4S if you are ok with driving it year round with the ground clearance etc.

    Waiting for the next RS4/RS5 and just keeping your RS5 for now might be the best decision.
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    Do you have an extended warranty on the car? I'm at 29k and thinking about what to do when warranty runs out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KmorgsRS5 View Post
    Do you have an extended warranty on the car? I'm at 29k and thinking about what to do when warranty runs out.
    Ya I just purchased that - I believe there is a fairly extensive service on this car that is coming up and the extended plan covers that service so it makes sense to do it.

    the extended plan is also transferable so you'd be doing the next owner a favor as well
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    Quote Originally Posted by essfour View Post
    Ya I just purchased that - I believe there is a fairly extensive service on this car that is coming up and the extended plan covers that service so it makes sense to do it.

    the extended plan is also transferable so you'd be doing the next owner a favor as well
    Who did you purchase it through? I have asked my dealer 5 times and the morons still have yet to give me quote.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KmorgsRS5 View Post
    Who did you purchase it through? I have asked my dealer 5 times and the morons still have yet to give me quote.
    My dealer, Ira Audi. It was their recommendation that I do it so I never had to ask.

    Also I'm kind of bummed you all were hating on the idea of a new C4... is it really that lame? I mean, I get it, it makes the same torque as an elderly cyclist but I feel like it could be a cool project. AWE exhaust, CH-R's in aggressive Porsche fitment... still lame?
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    Quote Originally Posted by essfour View Post
    My dealer, Ira Audi. It was their recommendation that I do it so I never had to ask.

    Also I'm kind of bummed you all were hating on the idea of a new C4... is it really that lame? I mean, I get it, it makes the same torque as an elderly cyclist but I feel like it could be a cool project. AWE exhaust, CH-R's in aggressive Porsche fitment... still lame?
    flame suit on* the body style doesn't do anything for me. for the price, id much rather go used r8

    c4 are so common here in NY. Porsche in general is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by essfour View Post
    My dealer, Ira Audi. It was their recommendation that I do it so I never had to ask.

    Also I'm kind of bummed you all were hating on the idea of a new C4... is it really that lame? I mean, I get it, it makes the same torque as an elderly cyclist but I feel like it could be a cool project. AWE exhaust, CH-R's in aggressive Porsche fitment... still lame?
    Nothing wrong with the base model Carreras. In fact, I owned a 2009 C2, and it was one of the most fun cars I've every had. Believe it or not, the differences in the power between the base and "S" models, while there, is not that noticeable. Rather than listen to people here who have never owned any Carrera model, I would go take one for a spin and see for yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mojo31 View Post
    Nothing wrong with the base model Carreras. In fact, I owned a 2009 C2, and it was one of the most fun cars I've every had. Believe it or not, the differences in the power between the base and "S" models, while there, is not that noticeable. Rather than listen to people here who have never owned any Carrera model, I would go take one for a spin and see for yourself.
    That's a good point - I've actually never driven a base engine carrera. I should take the afternoon off and go for test drives!

    Quote Originally Posted by bknewtype View Post
    flame suit on* the body style doesn't do anything for me. for the price, id much rather go used r8

    c4 are so common here in NY. Porsche in general is.
    I have been looking EVERYWHERE for a well-priced cpo R8 but cant find one that I'd want for the price. I feel like a 2009-11 model with the V8 and R-Tronic would sort of be a down grade (in hardware) from the RS5 given that the RS has a better V8 and the superior dual clutch. I know lighter weight/rarity/wimmenz love'em/manual transmission are all pluses of the R8 though...
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    Quote Originally Posted by essfour View Post
    That's a good point - I've actually never driven a base engine carrera. I should take the afternoon off and go for test drives!
    You will want to test one of these configs:

    a.) C4 with manual, or

    b.) C4 with PDK and Sport Chrono.

    It's easy for people to say things like "don't even consider a base model" or "go GT3 or don't go" when it's not their money. In almost every case, the person saying that has never owned a Carrera or couldn't even afford the base model much less the one they espouse.

    At the end of the day, there is nothing "base" about a C4 that has a sticker of about $110,000.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LINDW4LL View Post
    Would not even consider a base 911 4- a CPO'd C4S is a far better buy.
    Agree 100% - the base 991 Carrera is a very underwhelming drive.

    Needs to be an S at the least to be considered IMO, especially if you are coming out of an RS5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mojo31 View Post
    You will want to test one of these configs:

    a.) C4 with manual, or

    b.) C4 with PDK and Sport Chrono.

    It's easy for people to say things like "don't even consider a base model" or "go GT3 or don't go" when it's not their money. In almost every case, the person saying that has never owned a Carrera or couldn't even afford the base model much less the one they espouse.

    At the end of the day, there is nothing "base" about a C4 that has a sticker of about $110,000.
    This is true. And thanks for the suggestions! I'll let you know what I think after the drive. I was given a base Cayman as a loaner a few weeks ago and walked away thinking that it was all the power I ever needed. The balance and precision was just so dialed in that i forgot about ever needing more hp.

    Also BK - I agree 911's are a dime a dozen, particularly in NY area. But with Mopps help on wheels and a bit more lowering and an awe exhaust do you think it'd be enough to separate me from the parade of generic 911's ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by essfour View Post
    This is true. And thanks for the suggestions! I'll let you know what I think after the drive. I was given a base Cayman as a loaner a few weeks ago and walked away thinking that it was all the power I ever needed. The balance and precision was just so dialed in that i forgot about ever needing more hp.

    Also BK - I agree 911's are a dime a dozen, particularly in NY area. But with Mopps help on wheels and a bit more lowering and an awe exhaust do you think it'd be enough to separate me from the parade of generic 911's ?
    maybe. :)

    fwiw I did have a used c4 on my list of cars to look into for next year if I was gonna get another car. I just have others on the list that id consider before that. including a cayman s.
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    Geeez, I wish I was baller enough to say a base 911 is not enough car. Most here that place so much importance on power never would even use it all, or even have the ability. You've had the pleasure of owning and properly using the RS for 50K. I'd say its time to try something else out. Sooooo many cars, and life is short. The base 991 is beautiful, and a damn good car. I would be ecstatic to own one. 0-60 and 1/4 times aren't the end all for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bknewtype View Post
    I would keep the RS. im one of the rare people that don't care about Porsche. the RS is a great looking car, and its been reliable to you , decent power w/ AWD. win/win. paid off car > car note, imo. after that, u could trade it in for the new RS if u have the itch.

    I love the E63's, but I also love attention, and wimmins don't give e63's attention as much as they do for the audi 5's :)
    Quote Originally Posted by bknewtype View Post
    maybe. :)

    fwiw I did have a used c4 on my list of cars to look into for next year if I was gonna get another car. I just have others on the list that id consider before that. including a cayman s.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mops@SupremePower View Post
    This gave me a great laugh buddy
    I tried to get myself to like it to fit in


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mops@SupremePower View Post
    Geeez, I wish I was baller enough to say a base 911 is not enough car. Most here that place so much importance on power never would even use it all, or even have the ability. You've had the pleasure of owning and properly using the RS for 50K. I'd say its time to try something else out. Sooooo many cars, and life is short. The base 991 is beautiful, and a damn good car. I would be ecstatic to own one. 0-60 and 1/4 times aren't the end all for me.
    I'd still like to hear a single person who disses it say that they owned one, or any 911 for that matter.

    Lots of talk, but at the end of the day, the bullshit walks.
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    And the 911 can be ordered with roof transport system so i can put my bikes and skis on the roof without having to clamp the base carrier bars - they just plug right into designated slots on the roof... So from a practicality standpoint, the 911 makes a lot of sense.... right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by essfour View Post
    And the 911 can be ordered with roof transport system so i can put my bikes and skis on the roof without having to clamp the base carrier bars - they just plug right into designated slots on the roof... So from a practicality standpoint, the 911 makes a lot of sense.... right?
    I've seen the system on the car, and it's pretty slick. You can also add a cargo box. Never had a use for it on mine.

    One of the most practical cars I've ever owned. Currently shopping for another, but the stock market, some medical bills, and college bills are putting a damper on that for now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mojo31 View Post
    I'd still like to hear a single person who disses it say that they owned one, or any 911 for that matter.

    Lots of talk, but at the end of the day, the bullshit walks.
    For the sake of debate I can get the challenging, but yea, its laughable at times. I prefer to keep it real, brah. Try to at least, for the sake of sound advice for OPs.

    Quote Originally Posted by essfour View Post
    And the 911 can be ordered with roof transport system so i can put my bikes and skis on the roof without having to clamp the base carrier bars - they just plug right into designated slots on the roof... So from a practicality standpoint, the 911 makes a lot of sense.... right?
    I think it is just as practical, and a better overall car. I think the suction ones are coolio!



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    Quote Originally Posted by Mops@SupremePower View Post
    For the sake of debate I can get the challenging, but yea, its laughable at times. I prefer to keep it real, brah. Try to at least, for the sake of sound advice for OPs.



    I think it is just as practical, and a better overall car. I think the suction ones are coolio!

    GL Nick. We'll pimp that peasant 991 out fo sho!
    I would get the debate if there was a debate comparing the two, but most of the dismissals are not supported by anything real world related. I also don't attach much credibility to conclusory statements by those who haven't written the check or at least have any real seat time. It's one thing to tell others they should spend an extra 20 - 25% "just because." Quite another to make the recommendation because you did the same and have first hand knowledge of what's involved.

    Let me add: I agree with the comments of buying a low mileage 2 year old C4S with CPO if one can be found that is nice over a new C4, if you are good with buying used cars. But, if buying new and the budget is capped at $110K, the C4 is a very nice, capable, and fun car that should not be shat upon. I disagree with the comments simply saying don't buy a C4 period.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mops@SupremePower View Post
    For the sake of debate I can get the challenging, but yea, its laughable at times. I prefer to keep it real, brah. Try to at least, for the sake of sound advice for OPs.



    I think it is just as practical, and a better overall car. I think the suction ones are coolio!



    GL Nick. We'll pimp that peasant 991 out fo sho!
    Thanks man. I'm going out to test drive some 911's with the base engine to see what's what. I feel like I can turn it into a unique enough project over time. Hopefully I can stay on budget, and if not, no bigge, I love my current car.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mojo31 View Post
    I would get the debate if there was a debate comparing the two, but most of the dismissals are not supported by anything real world related. I also don't attach much credibility to conclusory statements by those who haven't written the check or at least have any real seat time. It's one thing to tell others they should spend an extra 20 - 25% "just because." Quite another to make the recommendation because you did the same and have first hand knowledge of what's involved.

    Let me add: I agree with the comments of buying a low mileage 2 year old C4S with CPO if one can be found that is nice over a new C4, if you are good with buying used cars. But, if buying new and the budget is capped at $110K, the C4 is a very nice, capable, and fun car that should not be shat upon. I disagree with the comments simply saying don't buy a C4 period.
    Jimbro, we're 100% on the same page. I was "just sayin";) My comment was not really relevant to this thread. But at times, I see that type of convo help another. Like when I was going 3.0 Q5, and the CB said stretch, and go SQ 100%. I did, and very pleased about it. You get it.

    Also annoying is when one puts out a list, and others bring their dislike for a brand etc. That is useless, and brings no value. Only convolutes. Nick is simply asking for advice on the best move. Obviously we know he is attracted to his selections. We're already past that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mops@SupremePower View Post
    Jimbro, we're 100% on the same page. I was "just sayin";) My comment was not really relevant to this thread. But at times, I see that type of convo help another. Like when I was going 3.0 Q5, and the CB said stretch, and go SQ 100%. I did, and very pleased about it. You get it.

    Also annoying is when one puts out a list, and others bring their dislike for a brand etc. That is useless, and brings no value. Only convolutes. Nick is simply asking for advice on the best move. Obviously we know he is attracted to his selections. We're already past that.

    I feel like I'm being a dick. What a neat hat to test out
    You're not a dick, but perhaps I am. And, we are on the same page. I was not intending to start an argument with you.
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    perhaps some people may feel that if u buy the base model, u will always regret down the line that u didn't get the higher trim? esp since a base model is by no means " cheap " and if u can pony up the dough for that, u can pony up some more.

    but what do I know, I drive a peasant a5
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    You're not a dick, but perhaps I am. And, we are on the same page. I was not intending to start an argument with you.
    I'm a major dick, but like to keep it light in my AZ/Supreme worlds. They are my relief. I do not think we started one sweetie!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bknewtype View Post
    perhaps some people may feel that if u buy the base model, u will always regret down the line that u didn't get the higher trim? esp since a base model is by no means " cheap " and if u can pony up the dough for that, u can pony up some more.

    but what do I know, I drive a peasant a5
    See, this I don't agree with. To give an example, my neighbor across the street drives an '08 C2 that he bought new. He could pay cash for a Turbo S if he wished. He drives it daily and it is his only car. He tracks it regularly, multiple weekends per year. He used to race Porsches when much younger. He loves the car, says that it will do everything he wants in a car, and sees no reason to pay for a more expensive model.

    In addition, being able to pay for a C2 at $105K does not mean one is automatically able to pay $130K for a C2S. That $25K difference is equal to a $40K bonus, not a small amount of money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bknewtype View Post
    perhaps some people may feel that if u buy the base model, u will always regret down the line that u didn't get the higher trim? esp since a base model is by no means " cheap " and if u can pony up the dough for that, u can pony up some more.

    but what do I know, I drive a peasant a5
    That could happen for sure. All situational. I drive a base mk7 and my A5 was too. Glad I went that way. I was talked into tech for the SQ, and as I thought, do not use or care about any of it lol. And now I have all of these buttons in the worst place ever. I only like the speed limit sign on Nav. What an expensive sign

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mojo31 View Post
    See, this I don't agree with. To give an example, my neighbor across the street drives an '08 C2 that he bought new. He could pay cash for a Turbo S if he wished. He drives it daily and it is his only car. He tracks it regularly, multiple weekends per year. He used to race Porsches when much younger. He loves the car, says that it will do everything he wants in a car, and sees no reason to pay for a more expensive model.

    In addition, being able to pay for a C2 at $105K does not mean one is automatically able to pay $130K for a C2S. That $25K difference is equal to a $40K bonus, not a small amount of money.
    yup def agree. I could pay cash for an r8, but I choose to drive an a5 cause it does everything I need/want with the car































    damn that was painful to even say that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mops@SupremePower View Post
    That could happen for sure. All situational. I drive a base mk7 and my A5 was too. Glad I went that way. I was talked into tech for the SQ, and as I thought, do not use or care about any of it lol. And now I have all of these buttons in the worst place ever. I only like the speed limit sign on Nav. What an expensive sign

    Can be true, but everyone must set a limit. Pony rides are limited.
    yup everyone is diff. im sure u didn't ask for advice about ur 5 if u shoulda gotten navi or not, just like I didn't ask advice if I shoulda gotten sport seats or not, just like jim didn't ask advice if he shoulda gotten bucket seats or not. it works for us, and that's all that matters

    nick ( I guess I just learned his name hehe ) is asking for advice, so people are free to say whatever they want. but of course, jimbros advice is most accurate since he had seat time in the car he is interested in

    im just basing soley on looks that the c4 doesn't do much for me. im sure its a fantastic car, S or not, and anyone would b lucky to have one. I just need something that looks a bit better (:
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    Quote Originally Posted by bknewtype View Post
    yup everyone is diff. im sure u didn't ask for advice about ur 5 if u shoulda gotten navi or not, just like I didn't ask advice if I shoulda gotten sport seats or not, just like jim didn't ask advice if he shoulda gotten bucket seats or not. it works for us, and that's all that matters

    nick ( I guess I just learned his name hehe ) is asking for advice, so people are free to say whatever they want. but of course, jimbros advice is most accurate since he had seat time in the car he is interested in

    im just basing soley on looks that the c4 doesn't do much for me. im sure its a fantastic car, S or not, and anyone would b lucky to have one. I just need something that looks a bit better (:
    God no. I did not forum when I got my 5. I was just so excited to have one at 27 haha :) I just know I caught a lot of shit for not having dem buttonsssss.

    Yep, you like something that draws a bit more attention. Like a C7 Z It's all good buddy. No one cares you don't like Porsche.
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